[N] TL Mafia LXXV - Page 303

On June 28 2017 17:32 beentheredonethat wrote:
Skynx being scum explains literally everything that has happened in this game.

1. He voted Xata D1, position 3, JUST LIKE TODAY: potential bus cred but not hammer
2. He was not playing the game during the Xata lynch, so he kept himself out of the line of fire when everyone (probably town only) went over everyone
3. He was one of the last on the Xata wagon, although he was super early D1 - yeah you can explain that with "uhh not in thread" but this is clearly lurking scum being hesistant on killing RB
3. Once the claim game happened, he popped up, only to put shade on one of the few players that hadn't been checked AND were seemingly low-hanging fruits for scum (me, Palmar)
4. He voted sicklucker, and remember, scum had a rolecop! He voted together with Rels who he now refused to hammer ALTHOUGH his top scumread just hammered Palmar!!!!!
5. When we all lynched Tumble, guess who was AGAIN late to do it? Right.

His complete voting behaviour yells scum. There's so much more I have already brought up.

On June 28 2017 07:59 beentheredonethat wrote:

super easy:

Skynx: btdt is scum
Skynx realizes: no traction, and people still townread btdt
Skynx waffles, hedges, says at some point "meh btdt is town"

And the very minute I do something that doesn't match the pattern, he comes back on me.

I'm super locked on Palmar/Skynx.

On June 28 2017 17:10 beentheredonethat wrote:
Like, Skynx pretty much confirmed himself as scum:

1. His top scumread (me) was in thread and weilding the hammer
2. He was in thread and was SUPER CONTENT in just watching Palmar die
3. He was perfectly capable of flipping Rels but decided to instead let the Palmar lynch pass

Skynx was super under radar when things were great for scum. Skynx only started "playing" (more like "yelling btdt is scum") after the claims happened and scum got under a lot of pressure.

He never chose to answer any questions, and he didn't even consider anyone outside of btdt and thread sentiment targets (i.e. Palmar). There's literally no way this guy is not scum and I have just confirmed him EoD

On June 26 2017 22:36 beentheredonethat wrote:

Skynx and Palmar are both voting me.

But Skynx thinks Palmar is scum.

Note how Skynx prefers to lynch the guy who scumreads him over the guy who's scum-but-not-really-scum-reading him.

On June 25 2017 03:24 beentheredonethat wrote:

Nah Skynx



Look at this super sweed soft bus here. Flipped scum, town town town, town/scum.

On June 26 2017 17:16 beentheredonethat wrote:
It's super weird that you put super scummy skynx on your "meeeeehhh town" list at the super bottom and want to see me flip. It just doesn't make sense. It should be exactly the other way round although I'm expecting you to townread me correctly.

On June 23 2017 21:17 beentheredonethat wrote:
I hope you guys realize that Skynx is voting outside of Palmar so if Palmar is scum we have one more thing on the huge pile of reasons for why Skynx is scum

On June 22 2017 18:48 beentheredonethat wrote:


Observations:
1 Pretty much uncontested Grack wagon
2 Votes in hammer range on town: Tumblewood, sicklucker, Blazinghand
3 Irrelevant votes: raynpelikoneet, Palmar (starting with Rayn as hammer because Fecalfeast was originally part of the Grack wagon)
4 "Counter wagon" votes: Rels, Skynx, Chezitwo
5 Wasted votes: disformation, (Fecalfeast)

re: 1)

Having an uncontested wagon where no big discussion is revolving around pretty much means it's a town wagon. However, I think there was actually a lot of discussion in the past day, especially started by Rels. I am town reading Rels right now; he came out of the lurker shadows to actually talk. I also like his fighting with rayn and I'm super worried about rayn not being the town super hero that pushes people around. So Rels up, rayn down, although I gotta admit I haven't looked too deeply into the fight these two have.

My association between Skynx and Grack was obviously wrong. Nevertheless I find it super suspicious that Skynx chimed in, threw around some shade, later on pissed off, let the Grack lynch happen without really putting in work to push the sicklucker lynch. I am sure that there is scum on the Grack wagon and I am fairly certain that not all scummers are on that wagon; and Skynx' vote feels off. We have two mislynches as someone pointed out; so a vig shot (if available) gets more and more risky - but Skynx is a decent target. But I'm super super super afraid here.

Scum pool: Skynx, Eversince (voted super late each time)
Town should be: disformation (mehhhhhhhh, and only if he doesn't die this night lol, and town rage), Chezitwo (mainly based on D2), Rels (based on D3)
Meh: Palmar, Tumblewood, Blazinghand, ruxxar, Fecalfeast, VayneAuthority, sicklucker, rayn

I hope I didn't forget anyone.

re: 2)

These three players were basically the ones who sealed the Grack lynch: Tumblewood, sicklucker, Blazinghand. All of them will be moved to the scum pool for that:

Scum pool: Skynx, Eversince, Tumblewood, sicklucker, Blazinghand
Town should be: disformation, Chezitwo, Rels
Meh: Palmar, ruxxar, Fecalfeast, VayneAuthority, rayn

So without further ado, they come into the scum pool.

re: 3)

Same as 2), can just be scum chiming in.

Scum pool: Skynx, Eversince, Tumblewood, sicklucker, Blazinghand, Palmar, rayn
Town should be: disformation, Chezitwo, Rels
Meh: ruxxar, Fecalfeast, VayneAuthority

re: 4)

Rels pushing sicklucker matches what he did all D2. I don't think that this is scum pushing a second town wagon here. So if Rels would be scum, then sicklucker would most likely also be scum and we have a bus attempt to get town cred, which IMHO is a rather bad and useless bus because there's no way Rels gains towncred from this vote if sicklucker flips scum at any point. Skynx' vote on the other hand isn't as solid als Rels' vote. He not voting Grack (although he did say something about voting Grack, or am I wrong there?) is actually scum indicative here as he pretty much wasted his vote, putting it on unflipped instead of townflip. I'm certain Skynx is scum.

Chezitwo voting sicklucker - mehhhhhhhhhhhhh. Given how super eager he was to lynch Xata over Xata's cop claim, I don't know why he voted sicklucker here and kinda wasted his vote. I need to check the context of that vote as well as the reasoning. NAI imho but I'm not too sure. I don't have too many townreads so I'll keep him on the list "just cause" but I am indeed a bit paranoid.

re: 5) The only thing that comes to my mind is that disfo said early D3 that he'd end up voting Grackaroni anyways. Not sure what to make out of that but it striked me as weird.

On June 22 2017 19:14 beentheredonethat wrote:

Consider a serious defense please.

1) Why didn't you push disfo?
2) Why vote sicklucker over Rels?
3) Why vote sicklucker when you're okay with Grack as well and Grack is the clear wagon here?
4) Why pretend you don't understand that I scumread you when we already engaged D3 on such points?
5) Why put out a lazy-ass case on VA, then completely ignore VA?
6) Why are you okay with Grack being lynched when there's noone against it AND Grack is scumreading the guy you cased (VA)?

Of course those are very hard to understand points when you're scum, I wouldn't want to have all those points raised against me, too.

On June 22 2017 19:15 beentheredonethat wrote:
There are so many things wrong with your behaviour, your pushes, your votes, your everything.

Skynx is 100% scum.

On June 22 2017 21:02 beentheredonethat wrote:

That's as good as posting baby seals tbh

On June 21 2017 19:03 beentheredonethat wrote:
grack reads VA scum.
VA reads grack scum.

VA also has the same doubts towards Fecal as I do and he associates that scumread with Grack.

coming fresh off of his filter, I think it's safe to assume VA is town here. I'll retract if Grack/Fecal flip town.

On June 21 2017 19:07 beentheredonethat wrote:
Skynx is also super hard disagreeing with VA

so I think we got something here. I don't think both are scum together. so t/t or t/s and I'd say the scum is on Skynx' side here

On June 21 2017 19:10 beentheredonethat wrote:

And that makes me think Grack is scum with Skynx and Rels is town.

In a world where VA is town and scumreads Grack and Fecalfeast, with Skynx HEAVILY disagreeing with VA on Fecalfeast BUT being "okay" with a Grack lynch BUT voting Rels instead, I can see Skynx being scum with Grack. Get the town cred from saying "I'm okay with that", throw in a bunch of everyone-else ("I have no idea who's town"), and proceed to vote someone who's not your scum teammate but who is currently also in discussion of the thread.

That would meet the Xata vote, too, because it was exactly the kind of bussing I'd expect from scum.

On June 21 2017 19:14 beentheredonethat wrote:

This is also the very definition of a lazy case. it goes against a low volume poster (lynchbaaaait), it puts together lots of quote with few conclusions, and it misconstructs the read progression IMHO.

On June 28 2017 18:06 beentheredonethat wrote:

Me not voting Palmar would only make sense if Palmar is my scum buddy

but d'oh he wasn't

"You are shennanying off your top scumread"

- no I'm not. I toyed with you, baited your reaction, then hammered Palmar - who is only my second top scumread because you are my top scum read.

You are scumreading Palmar 100% but you're perfectly fine with your other scumread to vote Palmar and this doesn't give you a bad feeling at all?

Of course I am scumreading you here. And "half of the game went wtf over it" is once more a representation. it's you and disfo. and everyone else has either not played yet or is lurking and super happy about what is happening here.

So many lies in so few sentences

you're scum. this game is super ez.

On June 28 2017 17:51 disformation wrote:
anyway:
town: rayn, va, es
50/50: fefe, skynx
lynchables: rels, btdt

bh is imo town, his eod makes no sense as scum. prolly somewhere between town and 50/50 town lean so to say. like why would scum!bh stick out his neck this hard and try to save palmar when he is scum with rels or it is a tvt? makes little sense to me. to much emotion in bh for scum. not impossible he is setting up a palmar into rels ml in a tvt world, but dunno not feeling it.
fefe got demoted for sitting on his hands eod, while pushing in neither direction.
dont mind skynx eod.

i really dont like btdt's eod and dont see that coming from a town pov, as just outlined.
rels had a bunch of posts i really disliked after the flip and he was a fairly contested counterwagon. maybe should have listened to rayn.

somehow forget about ruxxar. will check later.

On June 28 2017 08:08 Blazinghand wrote:
FUCK

THIS IS ALL BECAUSE I WENT OFF AN HOUR EARLY. I FUCKED THIS UP

On June 28 2017 18:14 Rels wrote:

Bolded is all wrong. It's exactly something BH can do, as either alignement TBF. The fact that he TRIED to do it 1 hour before; redid it again at deadline; and even admitted it was planned:

makes your "too much emotion in bh for scum" wrong. Since it was planned.

On June 28 2017 18:15 disformation wrote:

actually a fair point.
but why go through that whole scheme/motion as scum in the first place

On June 28 2017 18:17 disformation wrote:
ah fuck i did the thing where i already gave you some reasons so i cant discern your alignment based on your answer

On June 28 2017 18:20 Rels wrote:
Skynx is not scum.
disfo is not scum.
rayn is not scum.
FF is probably not scum.

BH is scum.

This is where I'm restarting from.

On June 28 2017 18:20 Rels wrote:
Skynx is not scum.
disfo is not scum.
rayn is not scum.
FF is probably not scum.

BH is scum.

This is where I'm restarting from.

On June 28 2017 17:39 beentheredonethat wrote:
nah disfo there's no point in arguing with you. I'll stop it right here.


I want to see one scum player that is as aggressively fighting and as open about his thoughts, mistakes and reads as I am. I have no idea how Skynx can read me scum and I think disfo's "read" on me is bullshit OMGUS.

On June 28 2017 17:14 beentheredonethat wrote:
really take your salty comments and take them to a location where nobody cares about them because I am sick of people having 50 pages of filter yet having contributed nothing of value expect confirming themselves as town

and with "people" I mean you

On June 28 2017 18:03 beentheredonethat wrote:
Skynx/Rels/disfo actually makes sense and is explaining why disfo has 50 pages of filter without valuable information in it