[N] TL Mafia LXXV - Page 302

On June 28 2017 17:37 beentheredonethat wrote:

"yours not"
- dismissed by master detective disformation

On June 28 2017 17:40 disformation wrote:
i just went through your filter until page like 13 and was looking for reasons you sr skynx.
found only unflipped associations and that skynx has not much filter.
even wanted to lynch es for that. yikes man.

well. if you have stuff that is not unflipped associations or filter, ill gladly listen.

and i will give you this point, which is indeed a problem with skynx:
he simply fell of super damn hard after D1.

On June 28 2017 17:32 beentheredonethat wrote:
Skynx being scum explains literally everything that has happened in this game.

1. He voted Xata D1, position 3, JUST LIKE TODAY: potential bus cred but not hammer
2. He was not playing the game during the Xata lynch, so he kept himself out of the line of fire when everyone (probably town only) went over everyone
3. He was one of the last on the Xata wagon, although he was super early D1 - yeah you can explain that with "uhh not in thread" but this is clearly lurking scum being hesistant on killing RB
3. Once the claim game happened, he popped up, only to put shade on one of the few players that hadn't been checked AND were seemingly low-hanging fruits for scum (me, Palmar)
4. He voted sicklucker, and remember, scum had a rolecop! He voted together with Rels who he now refused to hammer ALTHOUGH his top scumread just hammered Palmar!!!!!
5. When we all lynched Tumble, guess who was AGAIN late to do it? Right.

His complete voting behaviour yells scum. There's so much more I have already brought up.

On June 28 2017 07:59 beentheredonethat wrote:

super easy:

Skynx: btdt is scum
Skynx realizes: no traction, and people still townread btdt
Skynx waffles, hedges, says at some point "meh btdt is town"

And the very minute I do something that doesn't match the pattern, he comes back on me.

I'm super locked on Palmar/Skynx.

On June 28 2017 17:10 beentheredonethat wrote:
Like, Skynx pretty much confirmed himself as scum:

1. His top scumread (me) was in thread and weilding the hammer
2. He was in thread and was SUPER CONTENT in just watching Palmar die
3. He was perfectly capable of flipping Rels but decided to instead let the Palmar lynch pass

Skynx was super under radar when things were great for scum. Skynx only started "playing" (more like "yelling btdt is scum") after the claims happened and scum got under a lot of pressure.

He never chose to answer any questions, and he didn't even consider anyone outside of btdt and thread sentiment targets (i.e. Palmar). There's literally no way this guy is not scum and I have just confirmed him EoD

On June 26 2017 22:36 beentheredonethat wrote:

Skynx and Palmar are both voting me.

But Skynx thinks Palmar is scum.

Note how Skynx prefers to lynch the guy who scumreads him over the guy who's scum-but-not-really-scum-reading him.

On June 25 2017 03:24 beentheredonethat wrote:

Nah Skynx



Look at this super sweed soft bus here. Flipped scum, town town town, town/scum.

On June 26 2017 17:16 beentheredonethat wrote:
It's super weird that you put super scummy skynx on your "meeeeehhh town" list at the super bottom and want to see me flip. It just doesn't make sense. It should be exactly the other way round although I'm expecting you to townread me correctly.

On June 23 2017 21:17 beentheredonethat wrote:
I hope you guys realize that Skynx is voting outside of Palmar so if Palmar is scum we have one more thing on the huge pile of reasons for why Skynx is scum

On June 22 2017 18:48 beentheredonethat wrote:


Observations:
1 Pretty much uncontested Grack wagon
2 Votes in hammer range on town: Tumblewood, sicklucker, Blazinghand
3 Irrelevant votes: raynpelikoneet, Palmar (starting with Rayn as hammer because Fecalfeast was originally part of the Grack wagon)
4 "Counter wagon" votes: Rels, Skynx, Chezitwo
5 Wasted votes: disformation, (Fecalfeast)

re: 1)

Having an uncontested wagon where no big discussion is revolving around pretty much means it's a town wagon. However, I think there was actually a lot of discussion in the past day, especially started by Rels. I am town reading Rels right now; he came out of the lurker shadows to actually talk. I also like his fighting with rayn and I'm super worried about rayn not being the town super hero that pushes people around. So Rels up, rayn down, although I gotta admit I haven't looked too deeply into the fight these two have.

My association between Skynx and Grack was obviously wrong. Nevertheless I find it super suspicious that Skynx chimed in, threw around some shade, later on pissed off, let the Grack lynch happen without really putting in work to push the sicklucker lynch. I am sure that there is scum on the Grack wagon and I am fairly certain that not all scummers are on that wagon; and Skynx' vote feels off. We have two mislynches as someone pointed out; so a vig shot (if available) gets more and more risky - but Skynx is a decent target. But I'm super super super afraid here.

Scum pool: Skynx, Eversince (voted super late each time)
Town should be: disformation (mehhhhhhhh, and only if he doesn't die this night lol, and town rage), Chezitwo (mainly based on D2), Rels (based on D3)
Meh: Palmar, Tumblewood, Blazinghand, ruxxar, Fecalfeast, VayneAuthority, sicklucker, rayn

I hope I didn't forget anyone.

re: 2)

These three players were basically the ones who sealed the Grack lynch: Tumblewood, sicklucker, Blazinghand. All of them will be moved to the scum pool for that:

Scum pool: Skynx, Eversince, Tumblewood, sicklucker, Blazinghand
Town should be: disformation, Chezitwo, Rels
Meh: Palmar, ruxxar, Fecalfeast, VayneAuthority, rayn

So without further ado, they come into the scum pool.

re: 3)

Same as 2), can just be scum chiming in.

Scum pool: Skynx, Eversince, Tumblewood, sicklucker, Blazinghand, Palmar, rayn
Town should be: disformation, Chezitwo, Rels
Meh: ruxxar, Fecalfeast, VayneAuthority

re: 4)

Rels pushing sicklucker matches what he did all D2. I don't think that this is scum pushing a second town wagon here. So if Rels would be scum, then sicklucker would most likely also be scum and we have a bus attempt to get town cred, which IMHO is a rather bad and useless bus because there's no way Rels gains towncred from this vote if sicklucker flips scum at any point. Skynx' vote on the other hand isn't as solid als Rels' vote. He not voting Grack (although he did say something about voting Grack, or am I wrong there?) is actually scum indicative here as he pretty much wasted his vote, putting it on unflipped instead of townflip. I'm certain Skynx is scum.

Chezitwo voting sicklucker - mehhhhhhhhhhhhh. Given how super eager he was to lynch Xata over Xata's cop claim, I don't know why he voted sicklucker here and kinda wasted his vote. I need to check the context of that vote as well as the reasoning. NAI imho but I'm not too sure. I don't have too many townreads so I'll keep him on the list "just cause" but I am indeed a bit paranoid.

re: 5) The only thing that comes to my mind is that disfo said early D3 that he'd end up voting Grackaroni anyways. Not sure what to make out of that but it striked me as weird.

On June 22 2017 19:14 beentheredonethat wrote:

Consider a serious defense please.

1) Why didn't you push disfo?
2) Why vote sicklucker over Rels?
3) Why vote sicklucker when you're okay with Grack as well and Grack is the clear wagon here?
4) Why pretend you don't understand that I scumread you when we already engaged D3 on such points?
5) Why put out a lazy-ass case on VA, then completely ignore VA?
6) Why are you okay with Grack being lynched when there's noone against it AND Grack is scumreading the guy you cased (VA)?

Of course those are very hard to understand points when you're scum, I wouldn't want to have all those points raised against me, too.

On June 22 2017 19:15 beentheredonethat wrote:
There are so many things wrong with your behaviour, your pushes, your votes, your everything.

Skynx is 100% scum.

On June 22 2017 21:02 beentheredonethat wrote:

That's as good as posting baby seals tbh

On June 21 2017 19:03 beentheredonethat wrote:
grack reads VA scum.
VA reads grack scum.

VA also has the same doubts towards Fecal as I do and he associates that scumread with Grack.

coming fresh off of his filter, I think it's safe to assume VA is town here. I'll retract if Grack/Fecal flip town.

On June 21 2017 19:07 beentheredonethat wrote:
Skynx is also super hard disagreeing with VA

so I think we got something here. I don't think both are scum together. so t/t or t/s and I'd say the scum is on Skynx' side here

On June 21 2017 19:10 beentheredonethat wrote:

And that makes me think Grack is scum with Skynx and Rels is town.

In a world where VA is town and scumreads Grack and Fecalfeast, with Skynx HEAVILY disagreeing with VA on Fecalfeast BUT being "okay" with a Grack lynch BUT voting Rels instead, I can see Skynx being scum with Grack. Get the town cred from saying "I'm okay with that", throw in a bunch of everyone-else ("I have no idea who's town"), and proceed to vote someone who's not your scum teammate but who is currently also in discussion of the thread.

That would meet the Xata vote, too, because it was exactly the kind of bussing I'd expect from scum.

On June 21 2017 19:14 beentheredonethat wrote:

This is also the very definition of a lazy case. it goes against a low volume poster (lynchbaaaait), it puts together lots of quote with few conclusions, and it misconstructs the read progression IMHO.

On June 28 2017 17:46 Skynx wrote:
Shhhhhhhh... just let it go

http://youtu.be/KYLziwZowKw

On June 28 2017 17:03 beentheredonethat wrote:

My whole stance back then was Skynx and Palmar being a team, mainly because both were pushing me and denying me being obvious town.

So when I realized "dude, I got the hammer", I hammered Rels, because Skynx was super happy with voting Palmar. I expected Skynx to INSTANTLY retract his super weird town thing he had on me and he did, so I was super fine switching back to Palmar.

I thought Skynx is bussing and Palmar is confirmed scum at this point.
Had I switched to Rels, I would have gained 0 informaton about Skynx/Palmar - and a Palmar red flip would've confirmed Skynx as super redredred.

Game isn't as easy as I thought, it's probably Skynx and Rels plus x.

On June 28 2017 17:50 Skynx wrote:

So you scumreading me for not townreading you cuz you're obvious town. Then you bait me by shennanying off your top scumread. And when i sr you again for your incredibly town maneuver, you sr me back???

On June 24 2017 00:17 Eversince wrote:


I don't know if SL was trolling or trying to sugarcoat his cookie crumbs. SL called FF/Chez both redchecks.
SL didn't check FF though. He checked TW/Chez. I'm working on the assumption of, how can you confidently townread TW at the point SL does? Let alone call him 100% confirmed town in the way SL does? It only makes sense if his result came back different. Because Chez is auto mafia in SL's mind from D1.

On June 28 2017 17:50 beentheredonethat wrote:
One. One reason why I'm scum Skynx. Give me ONE reason that does not fall apart as soon as people look at it :D

You cannot give one because you don't have one. Keep up the videos, scum.

On June 28 2017 17:04 beentheredonethat wrote:

I think it's time you stop throwing accusations around and instead start playing the game. You're being toxic, uncontributive and overall you're lacking arguments.

Ohhh wait you're scum :D you'll never do these things

On June 28 2017 17:56 Skynx wrote:

I'll try, here is one:


And be my guest:

http://youtu.be/Vl77IyWcbWU

On June 28 2017 17:57 beentheredonethat wrote:

But you do realize that you fulfill that very bolded sentence by bolding that sentence and adding nothing to it?

On June 28 2017 17:59 Skynx wrote:

Not really. Implication is that you're acting like everything you claim me to be in bolded.

On June 28 2017 18:03 Skynx wrote:
Btdt lets be honest here.

None of your yesterday actions are town, including you not voting Palmar or me for 1.5 daylengths long when you already 100% believe we're both scum since start of the day.

My reaction to your switch is town. You are shennanying off your top scumread. In addition I am scumreading Palmar 100%, if i dont sr you for saving a scum, wtf i even do?

You scumreading me for it is not town. It just doesn't makes sense. Thats why half of the game went wtf over it and you gona have a hard time convincing anyone.