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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
June 17 2017 09:45 GMT
#2191
now with my huge contribution to the thread done with that big case and all that ctivity i'm gonna go away for like 12+ hours ttyl kiddos
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
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June 17 2017 10:07 GMT
#2199
I mean fwiw it's not like Xata has had amazing thread presence since the end of D1, or explained what his meta on Annul is. These seem like reasonable reasons to me. But when it comes down to it, it's a big game and we have to lynch SOMEONE and there's nothing wrong with a Xata lynch
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
June 18 2017 07:07 GMT
#2547
On June 18 2017 06:06 ruXxar wrote:
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On June 18 2017 06:00 beentheredonethat wrote:
Wait he claimed cop?


Yeah and there was no counter claim.
Really strange.


possibly beacuse it is a shit claim??? like assuming xat is maf and there is another cop, why would said cop claim d2 over this. better to lay low and get more checks
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
June 18 2017 07:09 GMT
#2548
On June 18 2017 06:29 ruXxar wrote:
SL is like a 80% chance of being mafia.
While xatalos / disfo is like a 50/50.

I rather go for the safer option.


50/50 in the sense of "i'm going to count the number of possibilities and not weigh them by probability, then naively say they're all equally possible" sure. On the other hand there have been games where vanilla townies claimed "I'm a cop with a red check" on day 2, and this red check was on a town vigilante. So, y ou know, "50/50" is really not the way to look at this
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
June 18 2017 07:09 GMT
#2549
On June 18 2017 06:53 ruXxar wrote:
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On June 18 2017 06:48 beentheredonethat wrote:
cop claim
no cc

##vote disformation

Or, vote ruxxar, the guy who believes the cop claim, then goes on to lynch someone else over the red-check.


Its just really hard to know if hes telling the truth you know.
It came at such an inopportune time but then again there was no CC.

Like im so torn i cant make up my mind.
Much easier to just go with my strongest scum read.
If disfo is scum we can always lynch him later.

Also, what do you think about this?

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On June 18 2017 05:57 Palmar wrote:
##vote beentheredonethat


is it, is it really hard?
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
June 18 2017 07:15 GMT
#2550
On June 18 2017 07:03 VayneAuthority wrote:
the correct play here is to lynch xatalos especially after that cop claim


I wouldn't say especially but yeah it is NAI

On June 18 2017 07:04 beentheredonethat wrote:
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On June 18 2017 07:03 VayneAuthority wrote:
the correct play here is to lynch xatalos especially after that cop claim

I just come from a game where a cop claim happened and people lynched into the cop (who was VT but that's kinda missing the point)

how is the correct play in claim situation to lynch the unclaimed guy

the correct play is to think about it in terms of who's scummy, not simply who is "claimed" or "unclaimed"


On June 18 2017 07:05 Chezitwo wrote:
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On June 18 2017 07:04 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 18 2017 07:03 VayneAuthority wrote:
the correct play here is to lynch xatalos especially after that cop claim

I just come from a game where a cop claim happened and people lynched into the cop (who was VT but that's kinda missing the point)

how is the correct play in claim situation to lynch the unclaimed guy

The correct play is to evaluate who the scummier one is instead of blindly lynching the check.


never thought i'd say this but Chez is right on


On June 18 2017 07:08 beentheredonethat wrote:
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On June 18 2017 07:05 Chezitwo wrote:
On June 18 2017 07:04 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 18 2017 07:03 VayneAuthority wrote:
the correct play here is to lynch xatalos especially after that cop claim

I just come from a game where a cop claim happened and people lynched into the cop (who was VT but that's kinda missing the point)

how is the correct play in claim situation to lynch the unclaimed guy

The correct play is to evaluate who the scummier one is instead of blindly lynching the check.

1. Mafia is a guessing game.
2. Mislynches happen super often
3. The moment a claim happens, it's the last way for the lynchee to avert his lynch

So
a) lynch cop
b) lynch check, most likely lose a vt, real cop survives


not sure how "lynch cop" is the better option here


1. mafia game is a game of educated guesses
2. mislynched happen because we screw up, it's not an act of God
i mean wasn't it literally a better option that one time the cop was a VT fakeclaiming a redcheck on a vigilante? like, not that long ago? and youw ere in that game? are you REALLY not sure how it's a better option, possibly?

On June 18 2017 07:08 beentheredonethat wrote:
this is 1:1 the discussion I had in NSM, where Vivax claimed cop and everyone lynched vivax who in the end flipped town, surprise surprise (VT, but that doesn't really matter here)


TRHAT DOES MATTER

THAT LITERALLY MATTERS

BECAUSE THE GUY HE CLAIMED A REDCHECK ON WAS ALSO NOT RED

THIS IS VERY MUCH A THING THAT MATTERS

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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
June 18 2017 07:17 GMT
#2551
On June 18 2017 07:17 beentheredonethat wrote:
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On June 18 2017 07:11 Chezitwo wrote:
On June 18 2017 07:08 beentheredonethat wrote:
this is 1:1 the discussion I had in NSM, where Vivax claimed cop and everyone lynched vivax who in the end flipped town, surprise surprise (VT, but that doesn't really matter here)

This anecdotal evidence is not very convincing.

One day I'll understand why "lynch the cop" is better than "lynch the red-check"

one day


ONE DAY PERHAPS YOU WILL REMEMBER BUT THERES NO WAY TO KNOW, LITERALLY NO WAY?? NO RECENT CASE STUDY WHERE LYNCHING THE COP WAS THE BETTER IDEA? YOU CAN'T EVEN THINK OF ONE?

On June 18 2017 07:18 ruXxar wrote:
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On June 18 2017 07:16 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 18 2017 07:09 Chezitwo wrote:
On June 18 2017 07:08 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 18 2017 07:05 Chezitwo wrote:
On June 18 2017 07:04 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 18 2017 07:03 VayneAuthority wrote:
the correct play here is to lynch xatalos especially after that cop claim

I just come from a game where a cop claim happened and people lynched into the cop (who was VT but that's kinda missing the point)

how is the correct play in claim situation to lynch the unclaimed guy

The correct play is to evaluate who the scummier one is instead of blindly lynching the check.

1. Mafia is a guessing game.
2. Mislynches happen super often
3. The moment a claim happens, it's the last way for the lynchee to avert his lynch

So
a) lynch cop
b) lynch check, most likely lose a vt, real cop survives


not sure how "lynch cop" is the better option here

Where is the difference between losing a VT and an outed cop?

An outed cop can be protected at night, is a confirmed town and an enforced mafia target.

A vt is a vt.


I'm convinced.

##vote disfo



AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH


On June 18 2017 07:19 beentheredonethat wrote:
here's how it's going to go: people will lynch xata in spite of me saying "hey, guys, un-cc'ed blue". Then, he will flip blue, and people will scumread me for defending xata, potentially tmi'ing here. disformation will be lynched next day and will flip red.

cool shit

but dead cop d'oh


wow already martyring
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
June 18 2017 07:19 GMT
#2552
On June 18 2017 07:19 ruXxar wrote:
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On June 18 2017 07:18 Chezitwo wrote:
On June 18 2017 07:16 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 18 2017 07:09 Chezitwo wrote:
On June 18 2017 07:08 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 18 2017 07:05 Chezitwo wrote:
On June 18 2017 07:04 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 18 2017 07:03 VayneAuthority wrote:
the correct play here is to lynch xatalos especially after that cop claim

I just come from a game where a cop claim happened and people lynched into the cop (who was VT but that's kinda missing the point)

how is the correct play in claim situation to lynch the unclaimed guy

The correct play is to evaluate who the scummier one is instead of blindly lynching the check.

1. Mafia is a guessing game.
2. Mislynches happen super often
3. The moment a claim happens, it's the last way for the lynchee to avert his lynch

So
a) lynch cop
b) lynch check, most likely lose a vt, real cop survives


not sure how "lynch cop" is the better option here

Where is the difference between losing a VT and an outed cop?

An outed cop can be protected at night, is a confirmed town and an enforced mafia target.

A vt is a vt.

Think about it with a little more effort. If we lynch Xatalos and he is mafia then disfo is also basically confirmed town, can be protected and is an enforced mafia target.
As long as scum has a roleblocker (which is very likely) there is 0 difference.


Scum has a role blocker? Slip?


it's a huge game, so highly likely.

On June 18 2017 07:20 beentheredonethat wrote:
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On June 18 2017 07:19 Chezitwo wrote:
On June 18 2017 07:17 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 18 2017 07:11 Chezitwo wrote:
On June 18 2017 07:08 beentheredonethat wrote:
this is 1:1 the discussion I had in NSM, where Vivax claimed cop and everyone lynched vivax who in the end flipped town, surprise surprise (VT, but that doesn't really matter here)

This anecdotal evidence is not very convincing.

One day I'll understand why "lynch the cop" is better than "lynch the red-check"

one day

It isn't. But you need to consider the circumstances and this claim is incredibly fishy.

Why would mafia claim when there are like 5 votes on him? now it's more due to the claim and apparently everybody's fine with it.

if everybody's fine with something, it's probably scum.


what kind of troll logic is this


On June 18 2017 07:24 beentheredonethat wrote:
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On June 18 2017 07:22 Chezitwo wrote:
On June 18 2017 07:20 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 18 2017 07:19 Chezitwo wrote:
On June 18 2017 07:17 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 18 2017 07:11 Chezitwo wrote:
On June 18 2017 07:08 beentheredonethat wrote:
this is 1:1 the discussion I had in NSM, where Vivax claimed cop and everyone lynched vivax who in the end flipped town, surprise surprise (VT, but that doesn't really matter here)

This anecdotal evidence is not very convincing.

One day I'll understand why "lynch the cop" is better than "lynch the red-check"

one day

It isn't. But you need to consider the circumstances and this claim is incredibly fishy.

Why would mafia claim when there are like 5 votes on him? now it's more due to the claim and apparently everybody's fine with it.

if everybody's fine with something, it's probably scum.

Seriously?
Maybe because if we do what you say we lynch a townie, mafia survives a day and in the best case the real cop gets outed on top of it. Seems like a very good trade off compared to just going down without all of that.
In cases like this there is often an uncontested wagon on mafia.

Why do I have to explain basics like this...

Wait.

"If we do what you say we lynch a townie." - TMI.
"Mafia survives a day."

And how is it the best case if the real cop gets outed for town?

This sentence only makes sense from mafia perspective.



wat

On June 18 2017 07:25 beentheredonethat wrote:
##vote Chezitwo

yep.


waaaat

On June 18 2017 07:25 beentheredonethat wrote:
Now that's a slip

I just nailed mafia bitches


???




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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
June 18 2017 07:22 GMT
#2553
On June 18 2017 07:29 Eversince wrote:
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On June 17 2017 19:28 Xatalos wrote:
Eh. I haven't been able to really keep up with the game so well up to this point, so I'll just say it: I'm the Cop and I decided to check disfo last night. He returned Mafia.

I was so close to claiming Cop several times last EOD, but managed to barely hold it in, because I wanted to use my power at least once. Luckily it paid off big time.

Obviously believes that the risk of being mis-lynched/shot N1 was worth it for the complete 'chance' to hit the lottery with Disfo mafia result. Ok, let's see what he does with it.

--
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On June 17 2017 19:30 Xatalos wrote:
One Miller already flipped so I suppose there could be another. Still, the odds are heavily in the favor of disfo being scum.

The next post, "possibilty if Disfo's not scum though"?

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On June 17 2017 19:42 Xatalos wrote:
On June 17 2017 19:35 ruXxar wrote:
On June 17 2017 19:33 Xatalos wrote:
On June 17 2017 19:31 Chezitwo wrote:
Sadly it could be more believable if you weren't the designated lynch, Mr. Xatalos.


Well, I'm already dead by N2 regardless. I'm content even if disfo gets lynched tomorrow - of course today would be preferable so scum would use a kill on me instead.


Heres the thing.

Lynching you and having you flip as either alignment is going to give us more information than disfo flipping as scum.



Does it really? If disfo flips scum (very likely), then I die N2, it seems like the optimal situation info-wise. Even if I'm lying, it'd be apparent soon enough so makes no difference for vote information. In any case it's not too bad even if I do get lynched now I guess.]/red]

"If Disfo flips scum" Again with this trying to distance from the fact that Disfo might actually not be scum. Second bit is even more damning. If you are a un-cced cop why the hell would you use previous arguement "i didn't want scum to shoot me N1" if you are just going to make let the town waste the mis-lynch on you (Who you should be screaming yourself confirmed town) STILL? "Oh, I didn't want mafia to shoot me, but if town mis-lynches me as long as they still lynch my check tomorrow it's ok." Like wtf? Instead we get 1 dead cop at lynch. Then we get two dead townies in N2. Instead of one dead scum at lynch.

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On June 17 2017 19:54 Xatalos wrote:
On June 17 2017 19:51 disformation wrote:
mh actually i dont think a framer would frame me.
or a cop would check me over like tw or one of the inactives.


Yea I'd think the only realistic option would be that you're a second unaware Miller if you're town. Usually there's 2 of them from what I've seen. The odds are low though, like 10% or less. So I'm content our best bet is to just lynch you.

More like 1:19 odds. So less than 5%. "I'm CONTENT"?? Why the hell are you not yelling from the mountain tops that this dude is scum yet? Why do you ignore the fact that you claim a vig would be better off shooting into the in-actives to hopefully hit mafia blind. But you just "had a hunch because Disfo voted you" so you didn't check one of the '?' marks yourself with your check. Harder to call in-actives mafia than someone half the thread has at somepoint thought about the possibilty of him being scum? Nah, let's ignore that though. You didn't mind if you died first? Would that have been the same if you missed mafia here? You would still be #1 lynch today.

Followed with this:
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On June 17 2017 19:56 Xatalos wrote:
On June 17 2017 19:53 disformation wrote:
On June 17 2017 19:51 Xatalos wrote:
On June 17 2017 19:42 Chezitwo wrote:
On June 17 2017 19:40 Xatalos wrote:
On June 17 2017 19:35 disformation wrote:
got any crumbs?
why claim so early in the game and not try to case me to get more info/reactions before claiming midday?

technically i suppose it is not impossible for there to be a framer or some stuff


I suppose you could theoretically be another unaware Miller, or there could even be a Framer role. The odds aren't good at all though in either case.

I didn't make any posts on the purpose of claiming my check (or role), since there are always risks. I think my play has been very similar to how I played as Cop last time though (including the EOD D1 events) - can't remember the name now but I can dig it up. Didn't really crumb there either, but my checks were successes either way.

Weren't people calling for a vigshot on you? I did not read very closely yesterday but I seem to remember it this way. Seems more than just risky.


I suppose it wasn't impossible I might have been shot. It wasn't for sure there even was a Vig though, and no way in hell would scum shoot me, and the optimal Vig shot would have been more in the direction of the AFK lurkers than just killing for info, so I wasn't too worried. If I had claimed / crumbed noticeably in the night, the odds of being shot/roleblocked would have increased instead.

nonoonno you always shoot the close counterwagon to scum.
you cop check the inactives. hard to read. low volumes.


Not really. The lurky players are just a detriment at LYLO anyway, so it's better to kill them off immediately. Whereas somewhat active,[red] but not widely townread players are likely to live until LYLO but it's often hard to tell their alignment so checking is optimal.


So you know there is a possibilty of you dying N1, You are 100% dead N2. Better check the active guy we could figure out by lylo instead of the players you just said would need checking. Yep, that makes perfect sense.

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On June 17 2017 19:59 Xatalos wrote:
But other than that, it's quite unlikely we're both town I agree.

Disfo still not actually mafia in this guys head.

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On June 17 2017 20:02 Xatalos wrote:
On June 17 2017 19:55 Chezitwo wrote:
On June 17 2017 19:51 Xatalos wrote:
On June 17 2017 19:42 Chezitwo wrote:
On June 17 2017 19:40 Xatalos wrote:
On June 17 2017 19:35 disformation wrote:
got any crumbs?
why claim so early in the game and not try to case me to get more info/reactions before claiming midday?

technically i suppose it is not impossible for there to be a framer or some stuff


I suppose you could theoretically be another unaware Miller, or there could even be a Framer role. The odds aren't good at all though in either case.

I didn't make any posts on the purpose of claiming my check (or role), since there are always risks. I think my play has been very similar to how I played as Cop last time though (including the EOD D1 events) - can't remember the name now but I can dig it up. Didn't really crumb there either, but my checks were successes either way.

Weren't people calling for a vigshot on you? I did not read very closely yesterday but I seem to remember it this way. Seems more than just risky.


I suppose it wasn't impossible I might have been shot. It wasn't for sure there even was a Vig though, and no way in hell would scum shoot me, and the optimal Vig shot would have been more in the direction of the AFK lurkers than just killing for info, so I wasn't too worried. If I had claimed / crumbed noticeably in the night, the odds of being shot/roleblocked would have increased instead.

So, are you going to solve the game today?

Because you put us in a very inconvenient position. Your claim is very suspicious.


Worst comes to worst, disfo is just a free lynch D3. I don't terribly mind that outcome since I'm dying soon no matter what.

Considering that, I think I'll have some time today to read the game so I can try to leave a legacy.


Again we get a dead cop, mafia get to shoot whoever instead of us getting to aim there shot. But no that's better than lynching mafia today forcing some of their kp onto you tonight. Screw it if there is a doctor somewhere you might actually even live! But "it's ok, town totally lynch me first" is the scummiest thing I've read in a while.

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On June 17 2017 20:29 Xatalos wrote:
On June 17 2017 20:23 ruXxar wrote:
Meh, I think I'm going to pack it up and and get me some fresh air.
I think todays lynch is pretty much set in stone.

It's up to the mafia to try and turn the tides.


It is actually surprisingly fine with me. I'm so dead regardless that a small boost to victory odds by tonnes of effort doesn't seem hugely appealing. If that's what we decide, then so be it.

That being said, I'm in the unique position of knowing that disfo is already scum, so I'll most likely look at things and try to solve the scumteam from that perspective later tonight when I have more time again.



This guy doesn't even believe his own claim. Disfo's not mafia, and this crap claim is just trying to de-rail the arguement and push one more mis-lynch before he dies This is much is plainly obvious.

##vote: Xatalos


if eversince is a newbie, like in his first 5 games or so, this makes him town. if he has been around a while this post makes him scum

On June 18 2017 07:30 darthfoley wrote:
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On June 18 2017 07:25 beentheredonethat wrote:
##vote Chezitwo

yep.


So now you're voting outside of the cop/red check that you just told us to lynch


logic is long gone my fine feathered friend
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
June 18 2017 08:06 GMT
#2554
On June 18 2017 07:37 beentheredonethat wrote:
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On June 18 2017 07:35 disformation wrote:
i am not discrediting you.
i am telling you to use your head and look at xata and decide if you believe him to be cop.

I don't believe for a second that he's cop

but I'm not lynching a claim over a red check. There's always the possibility that it's just bad town.


you don't think he's a cop but you don't want to lynch him eh

On June 18 2017 07:38 beentheredonethat wrote:
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On June 18 2017 07:37 disformation wrote:
On June 18 2017 07:37 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 18 2017 07:35 disformation wrote:
i am not discrediting you.
i am telling you to use your head and look at xata and decide if you believe him to be cop.

I don't believe for a second that he's cop

but I'm not lynching a claim over a red check. There's always the possibility that it's just bad town.

read his filter ignoring the check.
do you think he is town or scum?

I said D1 he's fishy. I came to the thread voting him. Only when I realized he claimed I unvoted. Because you don't lynch into a blue claim.



you think he's scum but you dont' want to lynch him eh

On June 18 2017 07:38 Chezitwo wrote:
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On June 18 2017 07:37 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 18 2017 07:35 disformation wrote:
i am not discrediting you.
i am telling you to use your head and look at xata and decide if you believe him to be cop.

I don't believe for a second that he's cop

but I'm not lynching a claim over a red check. There's always the possibility that it's just bad town.

Ok, makes sense. Forgive me for calling you stupid. This is genius.


damn chez

On June 18 2017 07:42 beentheredonethat wrote:
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On June 18 2017 07:39 disformation wrote:
if you think i am scum and he town. fine.
if you really think that.

if you dont believe his cop claim and dont think i am scum or he is town (or both) you are either mafia siding or mafia

you make it sound like lynching a un-cc'ed cop is a town trait, it's amazing.


the only town trait is having a role PM that says you're town, the rest is tells and window dressing.

On June 18 2017 07:43 beentheredonethat wrote:
because HEY GUYS IT'S A BLUE, IT'S THE COP, AND WE HAVE 2312321321 PLAYERS IN AND ONLY A MINORITY IS ACTIVE

of course I prefer the potential VT loss over the potential COP loss thefuck is wrong with you people


valid but i don't think xat is cop

On June 18 2017 07:44 disformation wrote:
because it is a super hilariously obvious scum fake claiming to live another day.
what if he is a scum PR?


i don't particular care what kind of scum he is, the real question is "what if he's scum" dude lol

On June 18 2017 07:45 beentheredonethat wrote:
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On June 18 2017 07:44 Chezitwo wrote:
On June 18 2017 07:43 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 18 2017 07:40 Eversince wrote:
On June 18 2017 07:37 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 18 2017 07:35 disformation wrote:
i am not discrediting you.
i am telling you to use your head and look at xata and decide if you believe him to be cop.

I don't believe for a second that he's cop

but I'm not lynching a claim over a red check. There's always the possibility that it's just bad town.


If you don't believe the claim how can you believe the red check? That's entirely like "I know your lying. But I believe you"

No. It's like "I think you're lying, but as long as there's a chance you're not, I'm not lynching you over the red-check you claimed".

Then fakeclaiming scum can never lose against you. I will make sure to remember this should I ever roll mafia against you.

I'm pretty sure that oversimplifying my words will make you right.

situation: xata no pressure claims red check
OHHHH EVERY LYNCH XATA

ah who am I to care about this.


wasn't no pressure
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#2555
On June 18 2017 07:46 Eversince wrote:
Ok, and there is still 24 hrs he could of just played the game instead of claiming cop. He didn't even try to even do anything. "I dun wanna try even though I'm cop just kill me today ok guys?" Jesus the dude is so mafia. Who the hell roles cop and just rolls over at the start of the day? Fight your damn red check. Oops but wait, he can't. His red check is fake, his target isn't mafia and he knows it. Better hope the town will lynch him first if I play the matyr. Cept he's not even martyr. It's actively just throwing away a town power role for no better reason than to give mafia extra. If that isn't a scum driven agenda I don't know what is.


i mean if he's actually the cop then we shouldn't lynch him. if he is town and is "throwing away a town power role" then yes this is shit play but i don't care about that, i want to lynch scum. that being said: yes, he is scum.

On June 18 2017 07:47 beentheredonethat wrote:
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On June 18 2017 07:46 Eversince wrote:
Ok, and there is still 24 hrs he could of just played the game instead of claiming cop. He didn't even try to even do anything. "I dun wanna try even though I'm cop just kill me today ok guys?" Jesus the dude is so mafia. Who the hell roles cop and just rolls over at the start of the day? Fight your damn red check. Oops but wait, he can't. His red check is fake, his target isn't mafia and he knows it. Better hope the town will lynch him first if I play the matyr. Cept he's not even martyr. It's actively just throwing away a town power role for no better reason than to give mafia extra. If that isn't a scum driven agenda I don't know what is.

That's what people mean when they say "bad town".


ah this is so super annoying

go ahead lynch xata and once he flipped town, lynch me for TMI reasons or whatever :D


:D

and if he flips scum we'll lynch you for defending scum

On June 18 2017 07:49 disformation wrote:
go ahead lynch me.
but promise to send me a picture of your face when i flip green.


great logic

On June 18 2017 07:50 darthfoley wrote:
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On June 18 2017 07:37 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 18 2017 07:35 disformation wrote:
i am not discrediting you.
i am telling you to use your head and look at xata and decide if you believe him to be cop.

I don't believe for a second that he's cop

but I'm not lynching a claim over a red check. There's always the possibility that it's just bad town.


This is potentially the scummiest thing said today.

I've already been over this: if Xata is scum, disformation is basically confirmed town through vote analysis. If we lynch disformation and Xata is mafia, we basically kill someone who was gonna be confirmed town.

Grow some gonads. If you don't believe him "for a second", fucking lynch him.

Why the hell would the real cop CC the obvious lynch who's most likely scum even before this claim shenanigan? Only a shit cop would cc today.


i like DF for this post

On June 18 2017 07:58 beentheredonethat wrote:
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On June 18 2017 07:56 darthfoley wrote:
On June 18 2017 07:50 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 18 2017 07:49 disformation wrote:
go ahead lynch me.
but promise to send me a picture of your face when i flip green.

I love how this implies that I'm town not knowing your alignment

super lovely tmi


So you don't believe Xatalos's claim for a second but you also believ disformation is mafia.

Damn, looks like you got THREE mafia in one fell swoop!

So.

"I don't believe Xatalos' claim but there's the chance he's the real cop"
Then, slip happens
"whoops, slip, disfo scum"

You can be all ironic you want but there's no way Xata is flipping something that is not cop today. And I'll happily be providing the broomstick to all the townies who were wrong. I will then happily take the TMI lynch because that's the level of retardedness this town is at. Full stop.


surely you must admit it's possible xat isn't the real cop

Also you mention TMI lynch

you seem eager to be lynched

like super super super eager

too eager perhaps

On June 18 2017 07:59 beentheredonethat wrote:
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On June 18 2017 07:57 darthfoley wrote:
Guys BTDT has found three mafia in 30 minutes.

All hail btdt!

So you know how I react when I get tilted and keep working on tilting me

good job


oh boy are we going down this hole

On June 18 2017 08:05 darthfoley wrote:
I just can't believe cop!Xata doesn't claim anytime yesterday. He didn't even put up a fight in the showdown. Someone please tell me of a cop who 1) didn't claim in a heated 1v1 AND 2) didn't fight like hell to survive the 1v1.

If Xatalos had done #2 without #1, I could see his play. But doing neither and then claiming cop with a red check on disformation right after a few of us say disformation is spewed town by mafia!Xatalos is pretty rich


man df is super solid

On June 18 2017 08:20 darthfoley wrote:
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On June 18 2017 08:18 Chezitwo wrote:
I will reiterate that BTDT being obstinant and defending Xatalos is not scummy.


That's how I feel currently


yeah BTDT doesn't fake these emotional things afaik

On June 18 2017 09:36 sicklucker wrote:
man I just caught up on the thread and I regret it. some really bad stuff guys


i don't, it was hilarious

On June 18 2017 10:02 sicklucker wrote:
well if I were the vigi i wouldnt know that fool. i could think mafia has 1kp


mafia has 2 kp in the op

get on my night action speculation level brah

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June 18 2017 10:31 GMT
#2579
On June 18 2017 19:16 Vivax wrote:
So anyone else besides Ruxxar wanna claim that someone is town for posting cases on a scum posting babyseals, today?


It's not that they did it. It's almost never the fact they did it, whether arguing one way or the other.

It's always how, and why.
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June 18 2017 19:04 GMT
#2722
Looks like things are well in hand thanks solely to my tireless efforts

Time to take a break and bathe in sweet sweet town cred

Talk to you nerds tomorrow
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June 18 2017 23:58 GMT
#2844
Nice. Boring, but nice.once again I am carrying town to victory.
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June 19 2017 01:10 GMT
#2850
I'm awake and highly American. We should vote btdt and write cases on him and see how angry he gets it's s 10/10 experience
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June 19 2017 23:11 GMT
#3133
On June 20 2017 08:05 Rels wrote:
)= fucking doc not doing their job


If Doc didn't save DF last night, I wouldn't count on one existing at all. There's zero chance that was a vigi shot, everyone who even gave the thread a cursory glance liked DF. I can say this, as someone who gave the thread a cursory glance.
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United States25551 Posts
June 19 2017 23:13 GMT
#3136
On June 20 2017 08:11 Rels wrote:
BH didn't convince me. Spending all this time arguing with BTDT that went nowhere


didn't convince you that disfo wasn't mafia?
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June 19 2017 23:13 GMT
#3137
On June 20 2017 08:09 ruXxar wrote:
##vote grackaroni


ey what's going on here
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June 19 2017 23:19 GMT
#3144
On June 20 2017 08:14 Chezitwo wrote:
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On June 20 2017 08:11 Rels wrote:
BH didn't convince me. Spending all this time arguing with BTDT that went nowhere

He didn't even argue with BTDT. He just needlessly ranted about it way after it happened.

whoa whoa

I prefer to think of it as needlessly lecturing about it after the fact, not needlessly ranting about it after the fact. get your facts straight

On June 20 2017 08:14 Rels wrote:
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On June 20 2017 08:11 Blazinghand wrote:
On June 20 2017 08:05 Rels wrote:
)= fucking doc not doing their job


If Doc didn't save DF last night, I wouldn't count on one existing at all. There's zero chance that was a vigi shot, everyone who even gave the thread a cursory glance liked DF. I can say this, as someone who gave the thread a cursory glance.

can't bitch about the balance without knowing the setup. But we better have some way to overcome that 2 KP / night.


I predict that we will somehow overcome that 2 kp / night starting night 3. if you can guess how you are a winner
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June 19 2017 23:20 GMT
#3146
On June 20 2017 08:16 Chezitwo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2017 08:14 Rels wrote:
On June 20 2017 08:11 Blazinghand wrote:
On June 20 2017 08:05 Rels wrote:
)= fucking doc not doing their job


If Doc didn't save DF last night, I wouldn't count on one existing at all. There's zero chance that was a vigi shot, everyone who even gave the thread a cursory glance liked DF. I can say this, as someone who gave the thread a cursory glance.

can't bitch about the balance without knowing the setup. But we better have some way to overcome that 2 KP / night.

Let's hope for a cop with some juicy checks then.

actually of everything Rels has written and perhaps of everything Chez has written that I've paid attention to, I like these two posts the least.
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