[N] TL Mafia LXXV - Page 109

On June 17 2017 08:33 darthfoley wrote:
The other thing is that these kills also kill thread activity. Their filters were huge and they progressed the game. Now we have a bunch of scummy meh inactives left

Vivax, we must unite.

On June 17 2017 02:08 Koshi wrote:
2)Holyflare
4)Rels
7)Tumblewood
10)beentheredonethat
12)Xatalos
13)AMG
14)marvellosity
15)Grackaroni
22)Eversince

Probably is Grack or Rels. I don't care who it is.

On June 17 2017 04:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Rels
Disformation
sl
xatalos
skynx
btdt

Koshi you are wrong.

On June 17 2017 06:02 darthfoley wrote:
In case I die,

Mafia are probably within
(No order)
Xata
SL
eversince
Rels
Grack
TW
AFKs
Maybe one in Skynx/btdt/disformation. Idk

On June 15 2017 08:51 Rels wrote:
My thoughts catching up. Will vote marv tomorrow if he still haven't posted. Otherwise ruxxar or Eversince.

ruxxar:
- "I like it" on a disfo post that didn't deserve any of it. Not that it deserved scum points. But nothing to like in it.
- buying SL's red check. Propose we lynch Eversince, then SL if she flips green. No game vision. Gullible.

Skynx:
- good first post on ruxxar's post where he said "I liked it".

Koshi:
- didn't understand Skynx' post on ruxxar when it was the best post in the thread yet. Uncharacteristic. Bad.
- called rayn's attack on bad disfo a defense. Bad.
- good post on BTBT being bad
- a Koshi town post "mm Vivax might be mafia" out of nowhere
- p35. Lock town.

disfo:
- pretty gullible. That's scummy. Bought SL's red check.
- had a throwaway read on Koshi, HF picked it up, and he had a weird reason to vote Koshi. Weird stuff all around.

rayn:
- picked up that above stuff on disfo. Good.

Vivax:
- entered the thread liking Skynx' post. Good.
- liking the annul's post I liked. Good.

BTDT:
- called Koshi town for no reason
- turned around on voting Koshi when he decided HF was serious on Koshi
- townie posts though (p 21)

annul:
- calling the HF vs Koshi as it is pretty likely to be (HF screwing around) => good

DF:
- also understanding Skynx post + doing his own thing (p 18). Dunno why he doesn't like Xata though. Didnt find anything Xata did so far was AI.
- nice post explaining why Xata is scummy. Convincing too, the bit where Xata missed Skynx' logic.

Damdred:
- weird that he starts playing calling some people scummy, when usually he's super unsure D1 and tries to build a "no-lynch" list rather than the opposite.
- though he's thinking about the game as a whole. Having a "rayn scum means Koshi no scum" mindset. Even though that mindset is bad, especially D1, it's townie.

FF:
- liking the question to ruxxar. Is evolving his read based on what's happening. Doubting too, then getting back to it.

Eversince:
- answering FF's questions about what are the things against rayn, then saying she doesn't see the things against rayn. Weird. Maybe scum and entered the thread with an answer to FF to have an easy good looking first post.

Grack:
- weird, against sentiment reads, but I can follow them. Good.

Xata:
- good post on ruxxar.

rayn:
- LOL butthurt defense in his huge post when it was 100% uneeded, just for the ego. Pretty likely town.

On June 14 2017 23:00 Damdred wrote:
Hi friends,

I am taking a super simplified approach this game so my posts are not misconstrued.

Rayn is possible scum, his posts lacked the real fire and drive I am use to seeing amd his defense of koshi was bad. His responses to hf were also sort of to tame and accommodating to make me see town.

Btdt has me scratching my head currently, on one hand I did like the posts that koshi pointed out. But one post that was basically fear mongering about hf scum capabilities over rayn left me feeling a bit empty and concerned about his game state.

Ruxxar seems to be commenting on things in a hit and miss style while not really engaging in many back and forth(?). If that makes sense. I'd probably not say scum necessarily but I don't like him.

Xata isn't really being inquisitive or post. Also seems to just want to go with the flow, sort of see this coming from scum xata just super boring.

FF, disf are both sorta strong town reads though. Hf is sort of a moderate to low.

Besides that idk what I'm doing

On June 16 2017 00:02 Tumblewood wrote:
i won't claim to have actually considered every player, but i'm thinking:
rels, grack, vivax, annul, disfo, koshi, ruxxar, btdt (in no particular order)
are probably town and definitely should not be lynched d1
preferably we lynch rayn or one of the afks

On June 16 2017 02:14 Xatalos wrote:
I can't be online much until EOD today.. I think I'll be online like 1-2 hours before the deadline and then just have to sleep. Anyways, here are my main reads so far (some people have posted nothing / barely anything so they've been basically ignored in my memory, who knows, would be dice rolling on them).

1) ruxxar: Has a decent amount of posts, but mostly they've been red flags or questionable at best. No spirit of scumhunting so far, just random comments with unbelievable reasoning (like "strong first post!" -> "I didn't like the content, it was just townily unpolished" - ask yourself, does this sound like an excuse thought after the fact of posting a random comment or a genuine thought process? how is it "strong" if it's townily bad?, very, very meh).

2) rayn: Can still easily be scum. He's a very sneaky scum, and I'm still quite confused by his Koshi commentary. Hope he'll explain that soon(TM).

3) annul: I'd have expected so much more after hearing about his reputation (although it seems to be years ago). There's just nothing to write home about in his filter. Nothing extremely scummy, but just no scumhunting, pushing the thread forward or anything. More like reluctant sideline commentary on some things he picked to comment about, things he could easily do as scum and should've done more than that as town.

4) Koshi: Not really sold on him being our best lynch. There was just nothing that I saw screamed "lynch now!", only slightly concerning points in a large amount of activity. TBH some of the discussions on Koshi have went over my head too as I've been reading the game very lacklusterly from my phone etc. In any case, when someone referenced the Koshi case to me earlier it didn't really cause me to want to vote for him.

4) FF: I'd say town. I just had a pleasant feeling reading his posts since the start, felt like he posted what he actually wanted to say and it made sense.

5) HF: Probably town too. Even if he exaggerates a bit in his cases, he's pushing the game forward and doing stuff all the time. Apparently it's also been his intention to generate discussion with stronger than usual pushes. Just feels more like a town game plan to hyper push and focus the attention on himself and his surroundings. As scum there would be easier targets for that than Koshi or rayn or Vivax etc. too, if the intention was to get people mislynched.

6) Vivax: I think what I liked about him earlier was his meta read on me. It felt honest rather than trying to just curry my favor or alternatively spread suspicion on me. Well, I may be biased Vivax, my main problem with you when I read you sometime today was this post:



...because, even if you called him out on misrepresenting things, that's one of the more blatant misrepresentations in the game in itself. Ever did not in fact ever "parrot" HF. He just referenced the case on rayn when asked, even though he clearly said he disagreed with it. That's far from parroting, it's the opposite.

That's still bothering me. Not sure if it means scum or town Vivax yet though, I think it's not possible to come from either.

7) Eversince: unrelated to that, he is somewhat lackluster. Not fair to say he's "parroting" or "not having original thoughts" though. Clearly that's false. There are original thoughts in his filter, there's just so little of any content there. Conclusion: ???

Rest: no strong opinions one way or another. This might change if I had time to read their filters, but now I'll have to go for some time.

So yeah, ruxxar/annul seem like our best bets today overall.

On June 16 2017 20:36 Vivax wrote:
If I just force myself to read DF town I can see a btdt/Xata/SL/ES/Ruxxar team.

But that would be pretty sad cause it means that yet again, the majority of town doesn't even try harder than mafia.

On June 16 2017 02:51 Fecalfeast wrote:
Scumlist:
Annul - very little contribution, out of everything that's happened he decides to focus on a ruxxar post that has been called out multiple times. Worried about being scumread by ruxx more than finding scum.

Grack - I know he has posted but for the life of me can't think of what he posted about or what his reads are. Not good. I just checked his filter and he gives no original reads he just comments on posts, defends ruxxar and throws vague suspicion at darth.

Marv - i have played as scum with marv on my team and he didn't play at all and got lynched day 1 with no fight

Scumish list:

Tw - his townlist looks totally arbitrary
HF - I know I called him town earlier but he has spent the majority of the game participating in shitfights which I'm not a fan of
Ruxx - honestly I don't mind his recent posting I just don't want to be wrong lol

I've been on the toilet for like 15 mins doing this post so i should go back to work

On June 17 2017 00:54 Skynx wrote:
Anyway for sure 1 scum between sl/fefe/rux. They all look equally bad dunno where to start.
Grack ninja vote is terrible. Eversince and Rels keep going down in ranks but i havent read their eod properly yet.
Other terrible votes off train are btdt and TW. Maybe Vivax aswell but i think he is town.
My plan is to also ignore HF and Palmar for a bit. They can be any alignment and so far pretty useless, too high level stuff for me.
VA can go suck a dick.
rayn is a mystery

I think tomorrow we can start the lynch with grack or any of first trio that started the train.

Updated townlist: disfo, df, damdred, Koshi, Vivax

Sl/ruxxar/tw/btdt/HF for postgame cred

On June 17 2017 02:28 Eversince wrote:


Meh, I don't want mod-killed. Which is the reason I bothered. I don't care if you believe me or not.
It wasn't in the interest of the game to let it happen, despite the fact I might die for it instead of taking the warning, here we are.

Grack, Damdred, TW, BTDT, Marv's slot, and AMG slot are all in the 'I can't be bothered to read your post, you don't post, or you simply space my current train of thought'

I don't like HF any better.
I don't like Koshi as until very close to deadline he seemed to very much be going back and forth between Annul/Xata both mafia to Just Xata.
Vivax is weird to me. The fight between you and him over phrasing is pretty dumb. And the eod stuff about me is dumb. There is a lot more reasonable things I think you could pick apart about my play thus far. Low hanging fruit is easy though.
SL I don't like for bending my words from "I think he was trolling" to "top town" I don't know how I feel about going into annul lynch yet, seems some of annul was fine and some was meh. The post immediately after deadline was enough for me to guess with some certainty he was town. Also he tends to spam in one liners and make my head hurt trying to read through.
VA is another ? mark I think more people should look at. He made 2 in-character post. The second big one he claims he's going to "save innocents" and votes Skinx and doesn't give any legible input on any of the wagons I can remember.
Palmar looks terrible to me but everyone seems to agree he just does w/e so one liners with no explanation must be good enough.

Rels is meh/ok I guess aside from being afkish (I'm one to talk)
Xata is confusing right now because I don't remember a lot leading up to it. Reads something or other being out there and the only one I can think of is maby Rayn? That was way early in D1 though and yes, he went back and forth on it but a lot of people did.
Disfo is active and chatty but like everyone else has pointed out: doesn't lead to many places.

DF is ok,
FF is ok,
Rayn is ok,
Skinx is ok

On June 16 2017 21:30 sicklucker wrote:
This is my tenitive reads list from most likely town to most likely scum.

Fecalfeast
darthfoley
Rels
disformation
Palmar
Ruxxar
raynpelikoneet
Koshi

^ id be kind of surprised if these guys were scum
btdm
ruXxar
Tumblewood
Xatalos
Grackaroni
Skynx
Vivax
Eversince
Holyflare
marvellosity

I doubt its that accurate since theres alot of people and just started but I thought id share about where my heads at

On June 17 2017 08:23 Fecalfeast wrote:

Are you claiming vigi?

On June 17 2017 08:44 Fecalfeast wrote:
Why don't you tell us what you see instead of making it seem like you're doing work and having us make conclusions for you

On June 17 2017 09:10 ruXxar wrote:
From reading the filters I posted above I'm gleaning this current list:

Scum:
Xatalos.
Rels: his reads are all over the place with no straightforward conclusions.
Grackaroni: Theres something about this guy that doesn't feel right.
Tumblewood: His reads list is really suspicious.

Town:
Darth foley.
Rayn.
FF
Vivax

Conflicted:
SL
Eversince

Conclusion:

Lynch Xata or Rels today.

On June 17 2017 09:36 darthfoley wrote:


So now I'm back into the town pile

On June 17 2017 09:47 ruXxar wrote:


You always were baby <3

On June 16 2017 08:02 Half the Sky wrote:


annul (7): sicklucker, ruXxar, Fecalfeast, Xatalos, Rels, Grackaroni, Eversince
Xatalos (6): darthfoley, Koshi, Skynx, disformation, annul, Holyflare
sicklucker (2): Palmar, Holyflare, Vivax
Koshi (1): Holyflare, disformation, beentheredonethat, Vivax, annul, ruXxar, Vivax
marvellosity (1): Koshi, Tumblewood
Skynx (1): VayneAuthority
ruXxar (0): Fecalfeast, Xatalos, Vivax, annul
Tumblewood (0): ruXxar
Palmar (0): sicklucker
raynpelikoneet (0): Xatalos, sicklucker, Tumblewood
Palmar (0): Koshi, Skynx
beentheredonethat (0): Koshi
Eversince (0): sicklucker

Not voted (4): Damdred, raynpelikoneet, AMG, marvellosity

Half the Sky is getting ready to throw annul out of her whiskey bar.
Day 1 ends in at 23:00 GMT (+00:00).

The voting thread is here and only votes in the voting thread will be counted.

On June 17 2017 12:37 darthfoley wrote:
Regardless of Xata's alignment, I find it hard to believe that his wagon was 100% pure. It doesn't make sense from a mafia perspective unless it's literally a trash team with no coordination. Which, given the amount of inactivity, is possible... but unlikely

On June 17 2017 13:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Youre most likely right here.
Are you around in 8 or so hrs? Lets figure this shit out when i am off work.