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On June 19 2017 10:25 LightningStrike wrote: Honestly I still got a toss up on Conversion or Tubesock although I want to see if conversion is willing to talk. also ??? obviously if you think you are town it's a toss up between me and tube so what good is this statement | ||
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the only reason I'm hesitant is b/c it's LYLO and tube seems to be readily jumping on LS as the more sure mafia read and reading me as town. which is good, because I am town, but is that because he knows the setup with PB/Grack NKs make LS more suspicious than himself? not to mention LS doesn't get a lot of credibility with the Fidei wagon vote placement while Tube does (yolo 2nd vote) | ||
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On June 19 2017 14:04 Conversion wrote: also ??? obviously if you think you are town it's a toss up between me and tube so what good is this statement Well it didn't seem like you were willing to talk which is why I made that statement but please get better with whatever illness is hurting you. | ||
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I'm going to not think too hard bc I'm still having the shits, so I'm just going to with my gut and vote Tube | ||
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also I was asleep when you two were talking believe it or mot but being dehydrated and malnourished due to everything coming straight out of my body isn't a pleasant state to be awake in if I'm wrong so be it but considering my condition right now I can't really be bothered to argue. if you think I'm scum for it put your vote on me and LS can hammer who he thinks is mafia-- if your possibility of me being mafia is now higher due to my play | ||
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On June 19 2017 20:15 Conversion wrote: sure that can be a scenario but I'm voting you because I read through filters and he seems less likely to flip mafia than you also I was asleep when you two were talking believe it or mot but being dehydrated and malnourished due to everything coming straight out of my body isn't a pleasant state to be awake in if I'm wrong so be it but considering my condition right now I can't really be bothered to argue. if you think I'm scum for it put your vote on me and LS can hammer who he thinks is mafia-- if your possibility of me being mafia is now higher due to my play His filter has nothing in it. No stances. Nothing. The two notable things was his argument with HF where he didn't see he was being trolled with scum not equaling mafia and he got mad and told him to STEP ON A LEGO FAGGIT. I don't remember if he even used an exclamation point. Least there's substance in my filter. You've made it clear you're not going to spend any time with the rest of the game so I don't think I'm going to waste my time. You're sick I don't even blame you. I should have played better (or not joined to be honest). This was lost days ago. | ||
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also rereading things and stuff idk why I got off LS' case so easily? I think he has more to prove than you do considering he's done nothing really credible in this game at all LS I'm putting my vote on you until you can thoroughly convince me that you're not mafia. if we lose because tubesock is mafia is through other people's filter/evaluation of him, my sort of far reaching theory about him, and a decision from a gut feeling I made at 2 AM I've given you the benefit of the doubt through most of this game and idk man. it's LYLO and I understand you're at vacation but you're not giving me anything to work with | ||
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but you know what I'd rather stick to my play this game and be wrong LS I've been prodding at you all game to make contributions because I felt you haven't all game and you haven't done a good job of doing so if this is how you play town all the way up to LYLO, then sorry dude. I don't really know how you play, and I don't think it's indicative of a good town to be this lazy and AFK and not really seriously try to answer people trying to clear you up as a town read, while having lazily asked for blues to use their powers on you at night to clear up the game | ||
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Current game stuff + Show Spoiler + First his interaction with TW On June 03 2017 10:20 Tubesock wrote: uh the not keeping up with half a page of one liners. 4 by one peron.... SInce no one is talking, what are your thoughts on BH's RNG lynch? Do you think anything about it? Kinda over explained the joke part to TW and over reacted to TW over the suppose joke. His treatment on Vivax seems a odd transmission from this post: On June 04 2017 07:00 Tubesock wrote: No way I'm lynching Vivax. to this post: On June 05 2017 07:15 Tubesock wrote: I kinda think Vivax just wants to be contrarian. V I don't think it's a leap to say BH may want to do nothing day one. Not many people enjoy the shitshow that day one is. So I have a difficult time scumming HF for saying BH is a coin flip. Everything else he says seems logical and towny. Plus if he's mafia HF is making things more difficult for himself. Was strange I mean why you thought he was town yet was contrarian at the same time? Then later he wanted to lynch him as shown in these two posts: On June 05 2017 07:43 Tubesock wrote: I'm contemplating a yolo vivax lynch. On June 05 2017 08:54 Tubesock wrote: Oh so now you guys want to kill Vivax with me. He said he didn't like some of his analyzes or his last reads which is odd because he was townreading Vivax earlier. Next: On June 06 2017 07:53 Tubesock wrote: Just in case: PB - too sloppy from his last mafia game. Conversion - he's trying for help and actually giving his thoughts. Too transparent for mafia. HF* He's just too dangerous as mafia to not distrust at least a little bit. In any case I'm not going to lynch him till like D4/5. Ritoky- I felt mindmelded + Show Spoiler + On June 04 2017 14:33 ritoky wrote: i think the town is something like; me, tube, vivax, hf; and tentatively conv and pb fidei has like....almost exact opposite reads of me. dunno what to think about that. reading LS mafia, what else is new for me. btdt has done nothing to change my opinion, still think he is probably mafia. tw doesn't make a whole lot of sense. defending grack for ???? defending grack from spooky ghosts pushing him???? missed joke early. says "mindmeld" then doesn't say what the mindmeld was. mafia pile. grack made a joke while being yelled at by BH, so he gets half a town point; but otherwise he hasn't done jack esp for a 2 page filter. actually i just looked at his filter and i take his half point back cuz he doesn't really have any posts pushing the game forward. BH has been disappointing. i expected RNG -> a play or snowball it into some reads. if that was it, he could be mafia. onegu...flip a coin. Tumblewood - Uncc'd Doc but I don't think I'd out myself if I were the real doc just yet. Onegu - started the successful shenany. It's certainly possible that he bussed for zero reason, but if he actually performs in the future, he's town. LS- I used to think I could read LS. While his reasoning is "weird" his reads are / used to be actually good if you disregarded what he said and zero'd on just the names. Mafias Most likely further down. Grackaroni - mostly ignored because I still think BH is mafia. Take away BH though, and I don't see anything towny. I think his fight with Ritoky is pure OMGUS. Blazinghand - at first I thought his jokes after the lynch made him town. His hyperawareness on how vote switching works (him telling Ritoky that if Ritoky jumped on the wagon after it was secured, it would have looked suspicious) tells me he is quite aware of his image. So, he's making sure everyone knows he's joking and trying to get us to like him. If he doesn't do anything next days we should kill him. beentheredonethat- I think "emotional" outbursts is a terrible reason to town someone. Vivax - I liked him until his weird shifts prior to the end of the day. His interaction with HF looked terrible. Never really give much reasons to townread ritoky outside of his mindmeld which is strange I would of thought he more reasons to read someone town other than just a mindmeld. Also he didn't really gave much of a read on me at the time too I would of figured he would of tried to read me. On June 10 2017 07:09 Tubesock wrote: I think mafia RB'd TW to mindfuck town. Then when town starts thinking why is HF alive, they can kill TW and then say well they had to kill the confirmed Doc so that's why HF is alive and he'd be alive for another night and can set up for his last partner. Potential TMI regarding TW how TW was roleblocked for certain reasons? Also he very little interactions with ritoky at all while the rest game he had more interactions with the game probably to avoid bussing him until ritoky claimed scum. Last scum game: + Show Spoiler + In Nutcracker his scummates were Tictock and Vivax his filter is here if you want to read his entire filter from that game http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/499399-tl-mafia-lxxiii-the-nutcracker?user=Tubesock. But in that game he didn't really interact to much with Tictock or Vivax with 2 posts directed to Tictock himself while 0 to Vivax yet was pushing people off of lynching Vivax until he fake claimed a rolecop candy that town or scum could be given and bussed Vivax was first on the wagon. In his first reds post he didn't give much reasons why he was townreading others but gave some reasons why he was scumreading people here: On December 16 2015 22:09 Tubesock wrote: Towny Order Tubesock GlowingBear Koshi - had an entire post in CAPS LOCK. Ritoky Sukrit TicTock LightningStrike - 1/2 Koshitownness since his post was only 1/2 CAPS lock. Null/mafia not necessarily in order but kinda Shapelog Damdred Rels GiygaS Kushm4sta Vivax Shapelog I have the same suspicions everyone else does/did. I haven't really studied his filter to see what he's done after the heat was off him. Or what he did eod other than vote Kush. Damdred I read Damdred's filter solely because of the GB hammer. I didn't like the shenanies but I have seen Damdred do that multiple times as town. Damdred doesn't address GB or Kush at all in his filter and only mentions Vivax with T-4 minutes to EOD. I think he had about 2 reads. I think Rels is right taht he is disinterested in the game. I disagree that it is mafia motivated though. Damdred in my eyes is like Marv/Palmar/Holyflare/BH, if they are alive d4 it's because they are mafia. Rels There is a lot I don't like. I really dislike how he targeted LS and once LS went half caps lock Rels backed off. To me it looked like Rels was backing off from a fight which I don't think town Rels does. The next thing he does is finds out Onegu's smurf. I clicked the link, it was page 46 of a 134 page game. There's got to be some easy way to do that I can't really believe he went through the database to wade through games. Shit I went through LS games to see if he did the scum/town bold thing and that took forever. (0 instances of his scum games, 4 instances otherwise not counting this one). After he backs off LS, I vote him and he goes sort of after GiygaS. Later he cases Damdred then really dislikes me. So everyone of his attacks is against a lurker and OMGUS's. I think he opportunisticly exaggerates. The shockingly different games of LS, how he is my only scum read even though I clearly was suspicious of others earlier but I didn't use the magic X person is mafia (funny I never said that about him either just voted). I think he exaggerated Damdreds meta. Damdred doesn't always play the same. If he did then I would think the veterans here would say they read him well or immediately. I also feel like he knew GlowingBear would flip town. I also think this play is well within his mafia range. he was prettygood in the witch game I read. The big doubt is if Kushm4sta is mafia or town. I don't think Rels was trying very hard to save GB or kill Kushm4sta. if Kush is mafia then I think Rels has to be town. He was consistent that Kush is null while he said GB is carefree town. If Kush is town then Rels can easily be mafia. Easy. GiygaS I liked his Rels points. That's pretty much all he's done. Even rereading his filter I didn't see anything that jumps out in either direction. I liked that he didn't seem too phased during kusgate 2015. For the record I don't think anyone who read my filter would think I sheeped GiygaS on Rels. Did G reaffirm and add to things? Yes. Another Rels exaggeration. Kushm4sta knowing his alignment helps me think more about Rels. Associative reads BAD mmmkay. But he's done jackshit. I think I've read or played with him in 3 games. He was anti-town in all of them. I think copcheck/poe him later. Vivax has like 4 posts all "I'm sheeping Koshi". Even though he did give more reasons for his scumreads his townreads had 0 or little reasons. His last town game: + Show Spoiler + His filter from that game: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/514644-dota-2-mafia?user=Tubesock He interacted with people more in that game throughout the game yes even with the scumteam there of Vivax,Koshi, ExO, SKynx with 3rd person players in Artanis/Rels, GB, Acroface he shown he wasn't afraid much to talk to anyone. Here is my case on Tubesock but unfornately I wont be much except on mobile till way past deadline if you got questions Conversion while I am away let me know. ##Vote Tubesock | ||
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