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Prison Break
Profile Joined April 2017
326 Posts
June 14 2017 13:52 GMT
#3021
We get 2 nightkills

One now, then we lynch ritoky,. then another one

I doubt the nightkills will be random.I'm not sure if we want to give out all our info for discussion as it may influence the nightkill

Everyone should definitely be doing the work - but be careful with how many conclusions / lynch orders you drop
Prison Break
Profile Joined April 2017
326 Posts
June 14 2017 13:57 GMT
#3022
On June 14 2017 13:56 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2017 13:44 Conversion wrote:
like idk why you're pushing so hard on a case that's probably very unlikely. like you realize I'm not the only one who thinks you might be scum, right? like I'm just the one posting at this hour, or at all really


That's why I'm talking to you cause pure here. I'll address the things PB says when he's around if he shows when I'm online too.


Ok I will still do this because I think you're never the nightkill anyway

I had you as scum and I quoted your posts, then HF also pointed out your posts were empty

I got distracted again with the TW townflip but you still make the most sense as scum to me
Prison Break
Profile Joined April 2017
326 Posts
June 14 2017 14:10 GMT
#3023
Really I think beentheredonethat just played a bad game and he's going to blame me or get mad for lynching him / saying this but when his contribution is stuff like "lynch TW then HF" and tunneling me all game etc. + getting scumread based on content / play (really only reason people townread him was because he got emotional / mad rather than his actual play)

I got a bad feeling the moment he kept saying town lost etc. But still though he was scum despite it. Can't say I regret the lynch - so I will say I regret I scumread him the entire game because apparently I was wrong, for self-reflections sake

Beentheredonethat if you read this please don't get mad for getting scumread or lynched. Remember town is in the Dark and you tried to lynch townies as well (TW, HF, me, etc.) so imagine if everyone got mad at each other.... it's part of the game
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
June 14 2017 15:34 GMT
#3024
pb can I get your thoughts on why tube is scum
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
June 14 2017 17:50 GMT
#3025
On June 14 2017 22:52 Prison Break wrote:
We get 2 nightkills

One now, then we lynch ritoky,. then another one

I doubt the nightkills will be random.I'm not sure if we want to give out all our info for discussion as it may influence the nightkill

Everyone should definitely be doing the work - but be careful with how many conclusions / lynch orders you drop


You're wrong about not wanting to give out too much info. Towns best asset is being active. If we can influence the night kill we make mafia be reactive rather than proactive. But this is more a discussion for post game.
Prison Break
Profile Joined April 2017
326 Posts
June 14 2017 19:59 GMT
#3026
On June 15 2017 00:34 Conversion wrote:
pb can I get your thoughts on why tube is scum


Townread on you 3 + me thinking he was scum previously

I'll filter him again because last time i connected him to TW so it may not be as strong now; but I don't have a specific scumread on either you grack or LS tbh

But yea when you read through his early play he goes after a lot of townies, basically the reasons HF pointed out about the posts being empty. But I'll admit some posts make me townread him as well so idk tbh
Prison Break
Profile Joined April 2017
326 Posts
June 14 2017 20:00 GMT
#3027
Also the way ritoky "listed" him and fidei
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-14 22:54:52
June 14 2017 22:54 GMT
#3028
Just a heads up, the day post might be delayed by a half an hour or so from the deadline. I'm not sure when I'll be back yet.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Prison Break
Profile Joined April 2017
326 Posts
June 14 2017 23:58 GMT
#3029
I went through the voting thread to do a vote analysis (because I couldn't come to conclusions based
on posts / filters ). didnt'have as much time as I had hoped to but this is my legacy:

going to list the votes from people that are still alive mainly:

Day 1:

LightningStrike:
voted Holyflare

Grackaroni:
voted Blazinghand

Tubesock:
voted Blazinghand

Ritoky:
voted beentheredonethat



Onegu: voted Fide86, got killed

Fidei: voted Tumblewood


Blazinghand (2): Grackaroni, Tubesock
Tumblewood (2): Holyflare, Fidei86
beentheredonethat (2): Prison Break, ritoky
Grackaroni (1): Blazinghand
Fidei86 (1): Onegu


Not Voting (5): Conversion, Tumblewood, Vivax, beentheredonethat, LightningStrike

would (grack/LS town, LS or conversion scum) ever not vote blazinghand here? they may want to
stay away from tumblewood/beentheredonethat as to not stack all people on 1 mislynch

after BTDT voted conversion, ritoky switched to TW, btdt switched as well

Tumblewood (4): Fidei86, Holyflare, ritoky, beentheredonethat
Blazinghand (3): Grackaroni, Tubesock, Vivax
beentheredonethat (1): Prison Break
Grackaroni (1): Blazinghand
Fidei86 (1): Onegu
LightningStrike (1): Tumblewood

Not Voting (2): Conversion, LightningStrike

here, conversion/LS could've joined the blazinghand wagon easily
tubestock now unvotes, votes Tumblewood
Lightningstrike also votes tumblewood

/ tumblewood claimed blue /

tubesock unvote, votes beentheredonethat (not blazinghand)
HF votes LS, LS votes HF (typical OMGUS response)
tubestock unvote, votes vivax

------------
will list "all" votes now, cause it gets important here:

TW votes Fidei
conversion votes Prison Break
TW unvote -votes Prison Break


Tumblewood (3): Fidei86, ritoky, beentheredonethat
Blazinghand (2): Grackarono, Vivax
Prison Break (2): Conversion, Tumblewood
beentheredonethat (1): Prison Break
Grackaroni (1): Blazinghand
Fidei86 (1): Onegu
LightningStrike (1): Holyflare
Holyflare (1): LightningStrike
Vivax (1): Tubesock

here, fidei with 1 vote on him, grack with 1 vote on him, TW with the claim: likely go to targets are
blazinghand or myself ( if grack was already on blazing there's less options to "go to blazing" for scum)

tubesock unvote votes Fidei86

Tumblewood unvogtes votes fidei86

grackaroni unvotes votes Prison Break (trying to start another counterwagon?)
then grackaroni unvotes votes Fide86
lightningstrike unvotes vitoes Fidei86

at this point tubesock gets the most towncred for killing fidei, like he could've switched to a lot of people instead. grackaroni may look bad for the fliplop on me. lightning gets no townread at all here


Day 2:

lightningstrike votes TW
tubesock votes vivax
Grackaroni vote Ritoky, Ritoky votes Grackaroni
Conversion votes vivax
ritoky unvot votes vivax (does this mean tubesock/conversion look better? mafia showed not to be afraid
to stack votes on 1 person though)

Vivax (6): Holyflare, Blazinghand, Conversion, Prison Break, ritoky, Tumblewood
Holyflare (2): Vivax, beentheredonethat
ritoky (1): Grackaroni

Not Voting (2): Tubesock, LightningStrike

lightningstrike now goes after HF while tubesock goes after vivax

conclusions / final thoughts:
Tubesock -> gets towcred for killing fidei, really don't think he's scum anymore
lightningstrike -> natural omgus between him and HF could have a town motive, pretty null but not really a scumread
conversion -> yea he puts in effort / seems townie. wanted to know why I thought tubesock was scum, which can make sense from a town motive
grackaroni -> flipflop on me to fidei looks bad or good, but he earlier stated fidei was a bad lynch so he may look bad, but him voting ritoky and ritoky voting him looks good again (I think?). if i die, he has the least excuse to be alive

I may be wrong on tubesock, lightningstrike may be town

scum could be between conversion and grackaroni: grackaroni got greenchecked, has the least excuse to be alive, and both would explain the ritoky suicide (because scum felt confident the last scum could
solo)

I'd say: look into grackaroni, look into his interactions with Ritoky and check if that was good or not. If it looks scummy /set up, grack is the final scum for sure. LS may be a possibility but I could
see him being town as well

sorry this is really shitty legacy unless if grack's interactions with ritoky are bad (haven't had time to check them) then it's gold

gut = look into grack, if he looks town it's probably lightningstrike

I think Grack is the final scum if he doesn't die tonight
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-18 01:10:56
June 15 2017 00:09 GMT
#3030
Day Five


Prison Break the Vanilla Town was killed.

You have 48 hours to decide the next lynch.
The cycle ends on Friday, Jun 16 12:00am GMT (GMT+00:00).
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
June 15 2017 00:17 GMT
#3031
can I get some thoughts on who the last scum is since we're autoing ritoky

I kinda wanted to die bc I don't care about this game anymore

bye PB
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
June 15 2017 00:56 GMT
#3032
On June 15 2017 09:17 Conversion wrote:
can I get some thoughts on who the last scum is since we're autoing ritoky

I kinda wanted to die bc I don't care about this game anymore

bye PB


Could be anyone really.

LS is freaking smart. He's always looking at how he plays. I can see a world where he realizes that he gets towned easier with the fewer and less concrete reads. Couple years ago he learned that people used his emotional state to town him. So then he went emo as mafia and won the game. But there's the nagging feeling that he would have to at least put in some work to line up miss lynches or something.

Grack could be too. He was gone most of the great claim wars of XXVI and maybe his fight with Ritoky was staged. It looked pretty sincere the first few times I read it.

You could be too. You post a lot about how you're new to this and not good or whatever so that will make our expectations a little lower. But you are quite active lately and that's super pro town. If you're mafia I kinda don't mind losing to you if my other two townies AFK for days.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
June 15 2017 01:03 GMT
#3033
hey feel free to leave me alive, and not delay deciding the game. i won't complain.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
June 15 2017 01:10 GMT
#3034
We're definitely killing Ritoky because it gives us a free night kill.

To be honest I'm not all that enthused to spend a lot of time poring over filters when the person I spend a lot of time reading might not be here tomorrow, or I might not even be in the game anymore.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
June 15 2017 01:18 GMT
#3035
On June 15 2017 10:10 Grackaroni wrote:
We're definitely killing Ritoky because it gives us a free night kill.

To be honest I'm not all that enthused to spend a lot of time poring over filters when the person I spend a lot of time reading might not be here tomorrow, or I might not even be in the game anymore.


So you're mafia then. Got it.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
June 15 2017 01:19 GMT
#3036
Three filters in 5 real life days.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
June 15 2017 01:19 GMT
#3037
On June 15 2017 10:18 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2017 10:10 Grackaroni wrote:
We're definitely killing Ritoky because it gives us a free night kill.

To be honest I'm not all that enthused to spend a lot of time poring over filters when the person I spend a lot of time reading might not be here tomorrow, or I might not even be in the game anymore.


So you're mafia then. Got it.

If you say so.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
June 15 2017 01:20 GMT
#3038
I'll fight in LYLO. I'm probably not going to spend much time during this period.
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 15 2017 03:32 GMT
#3039
Spent the whole day packing for my week long vacation to Hawaii. I might be able to do some work while on plane while flying. Was hoping one of Conversion or Tubesock would get nk to make it easier on me. Anyways will vote ritoky.
On June 15 2017 09:56 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2017 09:17 Conversion wrote:
can I get some thoughts on who the last scum is since we're autoing ritoky

I kinda wanted to die bc I don't care about this game anymore

bye PB


Could be anyone really.

LS is freaking smart. He's always looking at how he plays. I can see a world where he realizes that he gets towned easier with the fewer and less concrete reads. Couple years ago he learned that people used his emotional state to town him. So then he went emo as mafia and won the game. But there's the nagging feeling that he would have to at least put in some work to line up miss lynches or something.

Grack could be too. He was gone most of the great claim wars of XXVI and maybe his fight with Ritoky was staged. It looked pretty sincere the first few times I read it.

You could be too. You post a lot about how you're new to this and not good or whatever so that will make our expectations a little lower. But you are quite active lately and that's super pro town. If you're mafia I kinda don't mind losing to you if my other two townies AFK for days.

Blame Damdred for making me break that meta in Cell because he wanted me to get better -.- I would of made it easier on me if I night killed someone else because PB is someone I could try to convince on other people.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
June 15 2017 05:21 GMT
#3040
so are we all AFKing until ritoky lynch?
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