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also from BH on the vivax fake claiming nonsense day:
On June 07 2017 17:15 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2017 17:11 Blazinghand wrote:
So, if I think vivax and HF are both town hypothetically here, Grack, the most suspicious people are people who:
A) initially voted HF or were reluctant to vote Vivax
B) said they would 100% vote Vivax if he rescinded
By the way, this describes TO THE DOT what tubesock has been doing today: Show nested quote +On June 06 2017 16:08 Tubesock wrote:
basically, we lynch HF unless Vivax rescinds then lynch Vivax. HF flips mafia we celebrate or lynch Vivax after. If we decide to lynch Vivax first, and he is cop then we just gave mafia a free nightkill.
So, basically now we can just talk about who is the last mafia. Note that he wants to lynch HF, but never VOTES HF. due tot he pressure. He wants to kill both HF AND Vivax though. He also wants to lynch Vivax first if and only if Vivax recants. I'm not saying Tubesock is scum, but in my opinion if you think both Vivax and HF are town, Tubesock should be your #1 scumread.
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although honestly this is getting really tinfoil hatty. like the idea of a ritoky-Fidei-tubesock team means that ritoky and TS would have had to coordinate that one person jumps onto the fidei bus early to give himself town cred (yolo vote on fidei by TS) and ritoky would spread his vote elsewhere. Then they set up for the fake claim by ritoky, cause town to mislynch into the blue (with TW looking scummy in a couple of people's analyses, this is a pretty safe play as I think ritoky could count on the inactivity and lack of pressure on his "crumbs" to survive the lynch)
In which case they shoot off HF, and now town devolves into this weird environment caused by ritoky loudly yelling and claiming. Before HF dies, they RB and NK him to doubly make sure he dies in case he is vet because he is the biggest asset town has had and he's been alive way too long.
So now ritoky does all this yelling, spamming shit, calling us idiots, making sure to make his presence known while TS does what he's been doing all game to enact the plan they put in while Fidei was AFK/sleeping.
Plan for Mafia is going to be NKing the more "confirmed" townies off, probably the more active ones too, and then just push for mislynches (as this seems pretty easy to do, this town environment has been pretty lackluster with BH and HF gone)
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On June 11 2017 20:19 Holyflare wrote:
Tomorrow you will have 5vs2
You should lynch not ritoky because tomorrow will be 100% dead discussion and tube, your biggest asset right now, will die.
Lynching someone else is the most productive thing you can do. It doesn't change how many mislynches you get.
What is HF mean here?
And you're believing a claimed mafia over a dead blue?
I'm scum because I listened to what HF said and wanted us to do? Really?
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the only reason this tinfoil hat conspiracy theory exists in my head is b/c of a very sudden jump from "I like btdt" to pushing for his lynch.
I thought BTDT was scummy because of his posts (the one where he asked ritoky if they should concede.. like wtf) and him tunneling in on me super hard when I know I'm town. Also the lack of defense on his end when I told him to build a serious case on me because he was flipping between Conversion is town vs Conversion is not town.
whereas tubesock just came outta nowhere and was like wHAM BTDT is da mafia boiz let's lynch him. let me make a large sequential post with little spoiler messages but nothing really substantial and force a mislynch, since town seems to generally be OK with lynching BTDT over anyone else, so why not
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**what does HF mean in that quote?
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On June 14 2017 13:29 Tubesock wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2017 20:19 Holyflare wrote:
Tomorrow you will have 5vs2
You should lynch not ritoky because tomorrow will be 100% dead discussion and tube, your biggest asset right now, will die.
Lynching someone else is the most productive thing you can do. It doesn't change how many mislynches you get. What is HF mean here? And you're believing a claimed mafia over a dead blue? I'm scum because I listened to what HF said and wanted us to do? Really?
idk man I'm thinking of some weird theories and you're just the first one I fleshed out
better than being dead silent and doing nothing
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i mean also HF's quotes are sorta irrelevant bc his posts were basically BTDT-ritoky is the mafia team, kill btdt
so like.. with BTDT gone there obviously has to be a play that mafia is making that we're not seeing
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On June 12 2017 05:15 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2017 05:13 Grackaroni wrote:
I read through Conversion's filter and I am ~95% convinced that he is town. He has an open thought process and weighs in on everything that happens in thread. His reads shift a lot. He gives a fair number of unjustified reads, which I don't think newer scum players like to do. Overall his filter just reads a lot like the perspective of a new town player.
I would be a lot more surprised if he were to flip mafia than I was with PB in the last game. Conversion and pb are not mafia. Ls is probably not mafia. Tube is very unlikely. Btdt/you Btdt most likely So i shoot 
like his order of reads for mafia was btdt > grack > tubesock/ls somewhere >>>>>>>>>> me and pb
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On June 14 2017 13:31 Conversion wrote:
the only reason this tinfoil hat conspiracy theory exists in my head is b/c of a very sudden jump from "I like btdt" to pushing for his lynch.
I thought BTDT was scummy because of his posts (the one where he asked ritoky if they should concede.. like wtf) and him tunneling in on me super hard when I know I'm town. Also the lack of defense on his end when I told him to build a serious case on me because he was flipping between Conversion is town vs Conversion is not town.
whereas tubesock just came outta nowhere and was like wHAM BTDT is da mafia boiz let's lynch him. let me make a large sequential post with little spoiler messages but nothing really substantial and force a mislynch, since town seems to generally be OK with lynching BTDT over anyone else, so why not
You didn't read my post. HF and I talked about it after. You're spreading bullshit and nothing that makes me mafia. HF added stuff to the btdt case too. He was actually posted before mine. You guys all basically sheep and didn't do shit but I'm the mafia.
And I laugh that any of you even considered my case at all on btdt. If I stayed silent you all would have lynched him anyway.
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On June 14 2017 13:34 Conversion wrote:
i mean also HF's quotes are sorta irrelevant bc his posts were basically BTDT-ritoky is the mafia team, kill btdt
so like.. with BTDT gone there obviously has to be a play that mafia is making that we're not seeing
Didn't you just say I'm mafia for pushing to lynch btdt before Ritoky?
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On June 14 2017 13:37 Tubesock wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2017 13:34 Conversion wrote:
i mean also HF's quotes are sorta irrelevant bc his posts were basically BTDT-ritoky is the mafia team, kill btdt
so like.. with BTDT gone there obviously has to be a play that mafia is making that we're not seeing Didn't you just say I'm mafia for pushing to lynch btdt before Ritoky?
I never outright SAID you were mafia, I was saying this is a theory in a realm of possibilities that I'm trying to see and understand, no matter how unlikely
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On June 14 2017 13:38 Conversion wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2017 13:37 Tubesock wrote:On June 14 2017 13:34 Conversion wrote:
i mean also HF's quotes are sorta irrelevant bc his posts were basically BTDT-ritoky is the mafia team, kill btdt
so like.. with BTDT gone there obviously has to be a play that mafia is making that we're not seeing Didn't you just say I'm mafia for pushing to lynch btdt before Ritoky? I never outright SAID you were mafia, I was saying this is a theory in a realm of possibilities that I'm trying to see and understand, no matter how unlikely
Semantics whatever. You're dodging my question. What did HF mean when he posted that?
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ok I will entertain you since you seem to be entertaining my crazy thoughts seriously
Tomorrow you will have 5vs2
tomorrow there will be 5 town 2 mafia
You should lynch not ritoky because tomorrow will be 100% dead discussion and tube, your biggest asset right now, will die.
do not lynch ritoky because if so there will be no discussion (lol dead discussion anyways bc we lynched btdt and no one really talked)
the second part of it is grammatical confusing. it's either saying you will die or it is addressing you, saying that the town's biggest asset will die
Lynching someone else is the most productive thing you can do. It doesn't change how many mislynches you get.
lynching someone else besides ritoky is productive, since it doesn't chance the mislynch situation
?? what do you want me to analyze here
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like yeah you listened to the dead blue.. congratulations? too bad lynching btdt was also a dead discussion
if you can enlighten me as to what we really got on D3 that would be nice aside from figuring out btdt wasn't scum from the lynch flip
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like idk why you're pushing so hard on a case that's probably very unlikely. like you realize I'm not the only one who thinks you might be scum, right? like I'm just the one posting at this hour, or at all really
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On June 14 2017 08:46 Prison Break wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2017 08:15 Conversion wrote:
who's next on the scummy list for y'all if this guy surprises us with a town flip Probably tube but id have to filter everyone again
On June 14 2017 11:40 LightningStrike wrote:
BTW just read Tubesock's filter. I will admit it now a toss up on both conversion and Tubesock. Conversion EoD 2 reaction looked better after seeing the context explained about why he not scum with PB. Will have to reevulate both Tubesock and Conversion's filters by Day 6.
didn't realize it was soo terrible to post some thoughts to have people discuss over when they're awake/inactive
I didn't even say anything offensive, and I literally put these quotes in the header before I posted them:
"although honestly this is getting really tinfoil hatty."
"the only reason this tinfoil hat conspiracy theory exists in my head"
like all peopel have to say is "lol no ur argument is stupid" don't take it personally pls I'm just trying to do things
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also it is not "semantics" I quite literally said this like an hour ago:
"idk the more I read his filter, the more I find myself flipping back and forth on my town/scum read on him
it's confusing as hell"
so unless that's outright incriminating you as scum, lol
anyways I'm going to bed. people can call me stupid or whatever but if you really think this is "spreading bullshit" then idk what to say to you
you can drop a quotebomb on me like you did with btdt and try to convince ppl to push for my lynch if you think I'm scummy for posting stuff like that
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On June 14 2017 13:43 Conversion wrote:
like yeah you listened to the dead blue.. congratulations? too bad lynching btdt was also a dead discussion
if you can enlighten me as to what we really got on D3 that would be nice aside from figuring out btdt wasn't scum from the lynch flip
He's saying that when he dies town discussion will die with him. So town needs to talk. So in order to do that we say we lynch btdt first. I don't think he really meant to lynch him first, but he did for sure wanting us talking about it and not lynching Ritoky till the end of the day. Pretty clever idea.
The problem though was discussion died anyway as btdt was basically an auto lynch. Two things could have happened. 1) we lynched Ritoky. Then all signs would point to a dead couple of days because people probably would have said the same things about btdt that have been said all game. After we lynch Ritoky we'd probably have equally dead discussion while we lynch btdt anyway. Then we are in lylo with only a cycle to talk.
2) we lynch btdt. We will auto Ritoky BUT everyone knows we need to think about who is next so now we have two cycles to talk and EVERYONE is a question mark. It'll be so much more productive.
So you scum me for going along with HF's play despite not understanding it. It was a super towny thing to do. Mafia wants quiet and little information. This was we have a chance of actually having an active town for two full cycles instead of one day one.
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On June 14 2017 13:44 Conversion wrote:
like idk why you're pushing so hard on a case that's probably very unlikely. like you realize I'm not the only one who thinks you might be scum, right? like I'm just the one posting at this hour, or at all really
That's why I'm talking to you cause pure here. I'll address the things PB says when he's around if he shows when I'm online too.
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wonder who's gonna die. inside look into my decision making process:
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