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Prison Break
Profile Joined April 2017
326 Posts
June 13 2017 18:18 GMT
#2921
everyone still wants BTDT over Ritoky? may not be around at EoD so want to leave my vote on the lynch
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
June 13 2017 18:26 GMT
#2922
It looks like he's probably going to be one of the lynches either way. I'm going to try to be less lazy today and see if I can find anything.

I'm a little nervous about you tbh because I know that you're clever enough to change up your play style from the last game.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
June 13 2017 18:32 GMT
#2923
I'm most likely staying on btdt.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
June 13 2017 18:40 GMT
#2924
On June 05 2017 04:27 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2017 04:24 Holyflare wrote:
This Vivax push absolutely STINKS.

And it's SAD and it's a DISASTER

lol
Prison Break
Profile Joined April 2017
326 Posts
June 13 2017 19:05 GMT
#2925
On June 14 2017 03:26 Grackaroni wrote:
It looks like he's probably going to be one of the lynches either way. I'm going to try to be less lazy today and see if I can find anything.

I'm a little nervous about you tbh because I know that you're clever enough to change up your play style from the last game.


Well isn't that the same way people were paranoid about HF, who also flipped town?

I guess go ahead and check my filter 10x, you won't find a thing.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
June 13 2017 19:34 GMT
#2926
On June 14 2017 04:05 Prison Break wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2017 03:26 Grackaroni wrote:
It looks like he's probably going to be one of the lynches either way. I'm going to try to be less lazy today and see if I can find anything.

I'm a little nervous about you tbh because I know that you're clever enough to change up your play style from the last game.


Well isn't that the same way people were paranoid about HF, who also flipped town?

I guess go ahead and check my filter 10x, you won't find a thing.

I think there's not enough paranoia.

HF, LS and even you have argued that you aren't scum because your game play is stylistically a lot different from generic II, but I have enough respect for your play to discount that.
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
June 13 2017 19:56 GMT
#2927
Tube c'mon

It's not nothing I have. You are super low volume. You did almost not interact with ritoky. And you did say that ritoky will be the lynch, implying you plan to vote him, and you are now voting me over confirmed scum, you even have started to do so before the wagon on me formed.

Also you're absolutely not accepting the slightest possibility that I am town but you should absolutely do so to not waste this day. Like, today, you can actually push people because there are two scummers alive - but also two more townies than tomorrow. That means that any wagon that is on a townie might be averted because there are 4 more townies to vote different from the 2 scummers.

Tomorrow, if you lynch me today, you will not be able to push anyone and threaten a lynch. Basically, you'll have to figure out the game with what you have until today because tomorrow, you auto on ritoky - and then you're at LYLO anyways.

So YES, technically it's even correct that you guys are voting me. But you're auto-ing on me. There's no pressure. I cannot defend myself as I am the locked lynch. I can do some stuff like point out things I do find suspicious. Drop some reads so once I flip green, you guys have something to look at.

But de facto you are right now letting a super uncontested wagon pass.

The real shame is that ritoky's vote will be absolutely unreadable. Either he won't drop one at all (which technically should modkill him at this point(!!!!) ), or he'll put it on me.

If you don't have any wagons at all, ritoky's vote is like super uninteresting.

Meh. Shame on you lazy town people.
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
June 13 2017 20:07 GMT
#2928
I finished reading through BTDT's filter. I don't really see it. I noticed that he gets confused a lot:

He talks about the possibility of Onegu/BH bussing after Onegu flipped.
He spends a long time believing BH voted Fidei because BH made a joke taking credit for the lynch.
He forgets about HF's case on TW when he pushes HF.
He pushes HF after Ritoky scum claims
He pushes HF/Ritoky as a team when there clearly wasn't going to be another blue claim.

Before I even look at HF's filter, I'm going to guess that the bulk of his case is based on these last three things, which I think is misguided since HF hasn't been under all that much real pressure of being lynched when they happened.

+ Show Spoiler +
(lol ok right after I read BTDT's filter I took a look at the end of HF's filter and I was wrong)

I'm going to focus on Ritoky's claim and see if there were inconsistencies that BTDT should have picked up on regarding how Ritoky read him pre-claim post-check.

I'm not all that interested in the way BTDT responded to Ritoky's day 1 accusation because he had a calm response to something I wrote about his posts too right after his Ritoky response
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
June 13 2017 20:09 GMT
#2929
The only thing that I find strange from your filter is the honing in on TW & HF's votes as the most likely bus votes with my vote and LS' vote being unlikely bus votes, which just seems arbitrary to me.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
June 13 2017 20:18 GMT
#2930
On June 14 2017 04:56 beentheredonethat wrote:
Tube c'mon

It's not nothing I have. You are super low volume. You did almost not interact with ritoky. And you did say that ritoky will be the lynch, implying you plan to vote him, and you are now voting me over confirmed scum, you even have started to do so before the wagon on me formed.

Also you're absolutely not accepting the slightest possibility that I am town but you should absolutely do so to not waste this day. Like, today, you can actually push people because there are two scummers alive - but also two more townies than tomorrow. That means that any wagon that is on a townie might be averted because there are 4 more townies to vote different from the 2 scummers.

Tomorrow, if you lynch me today, you will not be able to push anyone and threaten a lynch. Basically, you'll have to figure out the game with what you have until today because tomorrow, you auto on ritoky - and then you're at LYLO anyways.

So YES, technically it's even correct that you guys are voting me. But you're auto-ing on me. There's no pressure. I cannot defend myself as I am the locked lynch. I can do some stuff like point out things I do find suspicious. Drop some reads so once I flip green, you guys have something to look at.

But de facto you are right now letting a super uncontested wagon pass.

The real shame is that ritoky's vote will be absolutely unreadable. Either he won't drop one at all (which technically should modkill him at this point(!!!!) ), or he'll put it on me.

If you don't have any wagons at all, ritoky's vote is like super uninteresting.

Meh. Shame on you lazy town people.


Low post volume doesn't mean anything. I was already a fairly low poster in several games. Why do you think I only play every six months? Because like everyone I'm busy but think I can squeeze a game in. When I work I do not have access to the internet so I can't check in more often.

I've laid out my reasoning to vote you over Ritoky. HF is right about what he said before he died. We kill Ritoky first we still will auto lynch you and have little to no discussion.

At first I fully intended to switch to Ritoky at the end of the day. But seeing how slow this game got it seems to me we need to clear up the btdt question before we can be active again.

If I were scum I'd want the quietist town possible.
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 13 2017 20:55 GMT
#2931
On June 14 2017 04:34 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2017 04:05 Prison Break wrote:
On June 14 2017 03:26 Grackaroni wrote:
It looks like he's probably going to be one of the lynches either way. I'm going to try to be less lazy today and see if I can find anything.

I'm a little nervous about you tbh because I know that you're clever enough to change up your play style from the last game.


Well isn't that the same way people were paranoid about HF, who also flipped town?

I guess go ahead and check my filter 10x, you won't find a thing.

I think there's not enough paranoia.

HF, LS and even you have argued that you aren't scum because your game play is stylistically a lot different from generic II, but I have enough respect for your play to discount that.

I don't think PB would improve his scum a lot in just 1 game despite being coached simply because he would of made his scum even better than HF's scum game.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
June 13 2017 20:56 GMT
#2932
LS seems pretty unlikely as a partner from what I'm seeing in Ritoky's filter.
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
June 13 2017 20:57 GMT
#2933
ls can you put your vote not on ritoky. like i'd rather have it off than on him
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 13 2017 21:15 GMT
#2934
On June 14 2017 05:57 Conversion wrote:
ls can you put your vote not on ritoky. like i'd rather have it off than on him

Fine but promise me you guys will vote ritoky next day phase please?
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
June 13 2017 21:15 GMT
#2935
I super doubly promise you
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
June 13 2017 21:29 GMT
#2936
PB's filter looks pretty good too.

BTDT seems like the best lynch, even though I don't think he's as lock scum as everyone else does.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
June 13 2017 21:30 GMT
#2937
I'll definitely vote Ritoky tomorrow.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
June 13 2017 21:38 GMT
#2938
i feel like i am the only pro-town player in the game. who else is trying to lynch confirmed mafia?

no one.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
June 13 2017 21:43 GMT
#2939
stupid rules make it so i can't self-vote. how rude.

[image loading]

congratz conv, you get my vote! unless i get to hammer sum1, cuz i am ALL ABOUT hammering.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Prison Break
Profile Joined April 2017
326 Posts
June 13 2017 21:50 GMT
#2940
im here

but I see people still want btdt anyway
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