It looks like he's probably going to be one of the lynches either way. I'm going to try to be less lazy today and see if I can find anything.

I'm a little nervous about you tbh because I know that you're clever enough to change up your play style from the last game.

Tubesock

United States2726 Posts

June 13 2017 18:32 GMT

#2923

I'm most likely staying on btdt.

Grackaroni

United States9857 Posts

June 13 2017 18:40 GMT

#2924

On June 05 2017 04:27 beentheredonethat wrote:

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And it's SAD and it's a DISASTER

lol

Prison Break

326 Posts

June 13 2017 19:05 GMT

#2925

On June 14 2017 03:26 Grackaroni wrote:
It looks like he's probably going to be one of the lynches either way. I'm going to try to be less lazy today and see if I can find anything.

I'm a little nervous about you tbh because I know that you're clever enough to change up your play style from the last game.

Well isn't that the same way people were paranoid about HF, who also flipped town?

I guess go ahead and check my filter 10x, you won't find a thing.

Grackaroni

United States9857 Posts

June 13 2017 19:34 GMT

#2926

On June 14 2017 04:05 Prison Break wrote:

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Well isn't that the same way people were paranoid about HF, who also flipped town?

I guess go ahead and check my filter 10x, you won't find a thing.

I think there's not enough paranoia.

HF, LS and even you have argued that you aren't scum because your game play is stylistically a lot different from generic II, but I have enough respect for your play to discount that.

beentheredonethat

2934 Posts

June 13 2017 19:56 GMT

#2927

Tube c'mon

It's not nothing I have. You are super low volume. You did almost not interact with ritoky. And you did say that ritoky will be the lynch, implying you plan to vote him, and you are now voting me over confirmed scum, you even have started to do so before the wagon on me formed.

Also you're absolutely not accepting the slightest possibility that I am town but you should absolutely do so to not waste this day. Like, today, you can actually push people because there are two scummers alive - but also two more townies than tomorrow. That means that any wagon that is on a townie might be averted because there are 4 more townies to vote different from the 2 scummers.

Tomorrow, if you lynch me today, you will not be able to push anyone and threaten a lynch. Basically, you'll have to figure out the game with what you have until today because tomorrow, you auto on ritoky - and then you're at LYLO anyways.

So YES, technically it's even correct that you guys are voting me. But you're auto-ing on me. There's no pressure. I cannot defend myself as I am the locked lynch. I can do some stuff like point out things I do find suspicious. Drop some reads so once I flip green, you guys have something to look at.

But de facto you are right now letting a super uncontested wagon pass.

The real shame is that ritoky's vote will be absolutely unreadable. Either he won't drop one at all (which technically should modkill him at this point(!!!!) ), or he'll put it on me.

If you don't have any wagons at all, ritoky's vote is like super uninteresting.

Meh. Shame on you lazy town people.

Grackaroni

United States9857 Posts

June 13 2017 20:07 GMT

#2928

I finished reading through BTDT's filter. I don't really see it. I noticed that he gets confused a lot:

He talks about the possibility of Onegu/BH bussing after Onegu flipped.
He spends a long time believing BH voted Fidei because BH made a joke taking credit for the lynch.
He forgets about HF's case on TW when he pushes HF.
He pushes HF after Ritoky scum claims
He pushes HF/Ritoky as a team when there clearly wasn't going to be another blue claim.

Before I even look at HF's filter, I'm going to guess that the bulk of his case is based on these last three things, which I think is misguided since HF hasn't been under all that much real pressure of being lynched when they happened.

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(lol ok right after I read BTDT's filter I took a look at the end of HF's filter and I was wrong)

I'm going to focus on Ritoky's claim and see if there were inconsistencies that BTDT should have picked up on regarding how Ritoky read him pre-claim post-check.

I'm not all that interested in the way BTDT responded to Ritoky's day 1 accusation because he had a calm response to something I wrote about his posts too right after his Ritoky response

Grackaroni

United States9857 Posts

June 13 2017 20:09 GMT

#2929

The only thing that I find strange from your filter is the honing in on TW & HF's votes as the most likely bus votes with my vote and LS' vote being unlikely bus votes, which just seems arbitrary to me.

Tubesock

United States2726 Posts

June 13 2017 20:18 GMT

#2930

On June 14 2017 04:56 beentheredonethat wrote:
Tube c'mon

It's not nothing I have. You are super low volume. You did almost not interact with ritoky. And you did say that ritoky will be the lynch, implying you plan to vote him, and you are now voting me over confirmed scum, you even have started to do so before the wagon on me formed.

Also you're absolutely not accepting the slightest possibility that I am town but you should absolutely do so to not waste this day. Like, today, you can actually push people because there are two scummers alive - but also two more townies than tomorrow. That means that any wagon that is on a townie might be averted because there are 4 more townies to vote different from the 2 scummers.

Tomorrow, if you lynch me today, you will not be able to push anyone and threaten a lynch. Basically, you'll have to figure out the game with what you have until today because tomorrow, you auto on ritoky - and then you're at LYLO anyways.

So YES, technically it's even correct that you guys are voting me. But you're auto-ing on me. There's no pressure. I cannot defend myself as I am the locked lynch. I can do some stuff like point out things I do find suspicious. Drop some reads so once I flip green, you guys have something to look at.

But de facto you are right now letting a super uncontested wagon pass.

The real shame is that ritoky's vote will be absolutely unreadable. Either he won't drop one at all (which technically should modkill him at this point(!!!!) ), or he'll put it on me.

If you don't have any wagons at all, ritoky's vote is like super uninteresting.

Meh. Shame on you lazy town people.

Low post volume doesn't mean anything. I was already a fairly low poster in several games. Why do you think I only play every six months? Because like everyone I'm busy but think I can squeeze a game in. When I work I do not have access to the internet so I can't check in more often.

I've laid out my reasoning to vote you over Ritoky. HF is right about what he said before he died. We kill Ritoky first we still will auto lynch you and have little to no discussion.

At first I fully intended to switch to Ritoky at the end of the day. But seeing how slow this game got it seems to me we need to clear up the btdt question before we can be active again.

If I were scum I'd want the quietist town possible.

LightningStrike

United States14277 Posts

June 13 2017 20:55 GMT

#2931

On June 14 2017 04:34 Grackaroni wrote:

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I think there's not enough paranoia.

HF, LS and even you have argued that you aren't scum because your game play is stylistically a lot different from generic II, but I have enough respect for your play to discount that.

I don't think PB would improve his scum a lot in just 1 game despite being coached simply because he would of made his scum even better than HF's scum game.