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Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
June 12 2017 12:32 GMT
#2861
so any thots on who the last guy is or is this ded gaem
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
June 12 2017 12:33 GMT
#2862
Let's honor Holyflare and lynch btdt.

He's right, we should wait to lynch Ritoky. Ritoky wants us to lynch him, so we should obviously do the opposite of what confirmed mafia wants. Ritoky wants an auto lynch. You guys all said that RNG is bad because it kills town conversation. Auto-lynch does the same thing.

We have nothing to lose. We can "shenany" back onto Ritoky if the vote looks close near the end. We will have another lynch to go, and if we get this right then Ritoky will concede. The dangers of Ritoky vote manipulating are less than the dangers of silent town.

Do it for the memory of Holyflare. Do it for the children.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
June 12 2017 12:35 GMT
#2863
On June 12 2017 21:32 Conversion wrote:
so any thots on who the last guy is or is this ded gaem


Right now I think it's btdt. He's the scummiest by a good margin.
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
June 12 2017 12:42 GMT
#2864
yeah I can agree with that. I'll post my vote back on BTDT and I think when it's not 8:42 AM EST we can talk about it more

I encourage the talking
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
June 12 2017 12:42 GMT
#2865
On June 11 2017 19:29 Holyflare wrote:
I have never been so certain of something in my life. This game is over.

I'm so certain that you should in fact lynch btdt BEFORE ritoky. You don't lose any mislynches I don't think and the game will be over far far quicker.


On June 11 2017 20:19 Holyflare wrote:
Tomorrow you will have 5vs2

You should lynch not ritoky because tomorrow will be 100% dead discussion and tube, your biggest asset right now, will die.

Lynching someone else is the most productive thing you can do. It doesn't change how many mislynches you get.


He's talking to me, not saying I'm towns biggest asset. He's saying that he's towns biggest asset (due to him getting everyone to talk). He's saying that active town is the only way to win.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
June 12 2017 12:44 GMT
#2866
On June 12 2017 21:42 Conversion wrote:
yeah I can agree with that. I'll post my vote back on BTDT and I think when it's not 8:42 AM EST we can talk about it more

I encourage the talking


I think we should policy not lynch Ritoky until T minus 1 hour to eod. Like he should be off the table till then.
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
June 12 2017 12:52 GMT
#2867
reason why I think we should lynch btdt over ritoky:

lynching ritoky makes everyone go afk and on the low chance btdt is not scum, we lost a whole day of information bc auto lynch

reason why I think btdt is scummy:

his arguments in the last night actually did it for me. his entire case on me just seems like a desperate play to flag me as scum... but all of his quotes were from D1. he doesn't mention that I town read him D2, scum read PB, and flipped on D3. also his arguments are "he felt this at one point in the game and doesn't care about it later," yet I explain most of my reads, even if they are unjustified, at every point in the game.

you can refer Tube's megaquote on BTDT, but his "contribution" and "activity" is basically him yelling at people, quoting irrelevant shit, making himself look like town by opposing lynches that he obviously knows are town (Vivax, TW)

I ask him to build a relevant case on me, and he dodges me and doesn't do anything. Just throws passive aggressive comments at me to try and piss me off (which didn't work), calls me out for not contributing anything when he hasn't done much to prove that his town.

On June 12 2017 03:08 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2017 03:06 Conversion wrote:
for someone who's trying to base activity on lynch, it's kind of funny how trash your play is

I have 6 pages of filter and all of your quotes are from D1.. please build an actual case against me so I can shut your scummy ass down like everyone else did with your "Conversion must be scum bc correct grammar and I lied about being on a phone once so he must be too"

This is complete bullshit. I am not trying to justify a lynch based on activity. I posted a "what if" post, just to make people aware, and then went on to look at things. I have not tried to lynch someone based on activity.

"Please build an actual case against me"? Bra, why so defensive? I'm skimming the thread, checking if I find something because once I flipped green, people will realize my thoughts are genuine. Why should I, a scummer, case you?


Why are you saying "look past D1", and then throw something at me that is from, oops, D1?


On June 12 2017 03:10 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2017 03:07 Conversion wrote:
On June 12 2017 03:07 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 12 2017 03:05 Conversion wrote:
okay do you have an actual case outside of D1 or are you just trying to be cute

You have six pages of filter, you have done nothing all game and I don't even know your reads besides "btdt" is scum which, oh damn what a coincidence, is currently thread sentiment.



except you forget the entire D2 part where I said you're not scum

umm hello? oh sorry let me be nice to you so you don't pull your rage I QQ this game sucks everyone is a bully card


And how is D2 relevant because right now, you're scumreading me and that is all I am saying in the originally quoted post? You're super eager to lynch me so can you please have actual reasons and not just say what the thread is saying, because D2, OH WHAT A COINCIDENCE, also other people started townreading me?

Do you have actual opinions and reads that are your own?



Funny, because I doubt he has any reads/opinions of his own besides tunneling on one person (namely me and PB, the newbies. ironically PB is not that much of a mafia newbie as I am, so it's easier to pick on me for irrelevant shit and avoid giving his opinions while he yells at PB for being inactive and scummy all day)

His arguments are bad, he still isn't contributing anything to the town, and his shit-slinging posts are more detrimental than not because he's attempting to devolve them into shouting matches.

With his behavior all game and how he absolutely refused and dodged to actually build a legitimate case, reads, and be transparent, I'm almost entirely sure this guy is the last scum.
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
June 12 2017 12:53 GMT
#2868
Sorry, I don't think he actually opposed the TW lynch. but he quotes me for being scummy for lynching TW when he was totally okay with it as well.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
June 12 2017 12:58 GMT
#2869
His last day was definitely desperate to fling shade on everyone and hoping something would stick.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
June 12 2017 13:02 GMT
#2870
He had a list post with TW as "meh dunno" then HF posted a big TW TMI compendium and was like wow then Ritoky voted TW and btdt said "Ritoky votes TW, I vote TW."
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
June 12 2017 13:04 GMT
#2871
oh and thought TW was the fakeclaim pretty quickly (as did most people really sans me).

He was ok with the TW lynch. He towned TW for a shortwhile before the claim wars. Otherwise he didn't have much to say about TW.
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
June 12 2017 13:07 GMT
#2872
One more point: HF rolled vig and said he shot BTDT. if BTDT wasn't scum, why would mafia roleblock and shoot him? If BTDT was town, it would put town at a 4/2 instead of a 3/2 basically puts us in a LYLO situation if we don't get scum here. Maybe this is a bad argument, but is there any benefit to roleblocking HF if, let's say, he was tunneled in on me being mafia and I was town?

I'm not sure if mafia is able to not roleblock someone, so IDK. might be a weak argument, so I'd like some thoughts on it.

In addition to my last post: I do not believe that anyone can be that bad at mafia for that long without being scum. Like I'm sure there are bad plays you can make as town, but my opinion is that you can't be afraid of making bad plays if you know you are town. However, you have to be more careful if you're scum and that sort of caution can be hidden under the guise of emotional rage, threatening to afk, and essentially throwing a tantrum.

So just as we cannot give a free pass to people being inactive on this day (I hope people start posting later in the day), we cannot give them a free pass anymore for being emotional and playing the QQ card, or raging at people and not helping the discussion and calling people out for things he is refusing to do and making excuses for. This is basically mislynch into LYLO, as we'll be at 3/2 if we don't catch scum, so we need everyone to give their opinion, reads, and partake in a discussion.

On June 12 2017 08:59 Holyflare wrote:
Make sure you talk. As much as possible


Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
June 12 2017 13:09 GMT
#2873
On June 12 2017 22:04 Tubesock wrote:
oh and thought TW was the fakeclaim pretty quickly (as did most people really sans me).

He was ok with the TW lynch. He towned TW for a shortwhile before the claim wars. Otherwise he didn't have much to say about TW.


yeah I just found it ironic he yelled at me, asking me if I had any reads or opinions of my own, but he basically sheeped ritoky's vote D2
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 12 2017 13:21 GMT
#2874
6-2
5-2 if btdt is town
4-2
vs
6-2
6-1
5-1
4-1
3-1
2-1
So essentially we gain a mislynch if I did my math correctly if we lynch ritoky who is scum. I rather do the best play and lynch a guaranteed scum in ritoky and yes I understand you concerns about a auto lynch but let's be real: it might be a auto lynch with btdt too.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 12 2017 13:23 GMT
#2875
On June 12 2017 22:21 LightningStrike wrote:
6-2
5-2 if btdt is town
4-2
4-1
3-1 MYLO
vs
6-2
6-1
5-1
4-1
3-1
2-1 LYLO
So essentially we gain a mislynch if I did my math correctly if we lynch ritoky who is scum. I rather do the best play and lynch a guaranteed scum in ritoky and yes I understand you concerns about a auto lynch but let's be real: it might be a auto lynch with btdt too.

May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
June 12 2017 13:29 GMT
#2876
We have Conversion, Prisonbreak, Tube, beentheredonethat, LightningStrike, Grackaroni, Ritoky. 7 total, 2 are mafia. So it's 5-2 now. 4-2 if btdt flips town, 4-1 if we kill Ritoky.
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 12 2017 13:36 GMT
#2877
On June 12 2017 22:29 Tubesock wrote:
We have Conversion, Prisonbreak, Tube, beentheredonethat, LightningStrike, Grackaroni, Ritoky. 7 total, 2 are mafia. So it's 5-2 now. 4-2 if btdt flips town, 4-1 if we kill Ritoky.

Crap I messed up my math somehow
5-2
4-2
3-2
3-1
2-1
vs
5-2
5-1
4-1
3-1
2-1
I guess we don't exactly lose a mislynch on second looks?
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
June 12 2017 13:56 GMT
#2878
On June 12 2017 22:36 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2017 22:29 Tubesock wrote:
We have Conversion, Prisonbreak, Tube, beentheredonethat, LightningStrike, Grackaroni, Ritoky. 7 total, 2 are mafia. So it's 5-2 now. 4-2 if btdt flips town, 4-1 if we kill Ritoky.

Crap I messed up my math somehow
5-2
4-2
3-2
3-1
2-1
vs
5-2
5-1
4-1
3-1
2-1
I guess we don't exactly lose a mislynch on second looks?


So you're on board?

Who would you lynch and why por favor?
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
June 12 2017 14:08 GMT
#2879
Ritoky should we concede?
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 12 2017 14:30 GMT
#2880
On June 12 2017 22:56 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2017 22:36 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 12 2017 22:29 Tubesock wrote:
We have Conversion, Prisonbreak, Tube, beentheredonethat, LightningStrike, Grackaroni, Ritoky. 7 total, 2 are mafia. So it's 5-2 now. 4-2 if btdt flips town, 4-1 if we kill Ritoky.

Crap I messed up my math somehow
5-2
4-2
3-2
3-1
2-1
vs
5-2
5-1
4-1
3-1
2-1
I guess we don't exactly lose a mislynch on second looks?


So you're on board?

Who would you lynch and why por favor?

ritoky just so we get the for sure scum out of the way while looking at connections from ritoky and james to any of the players.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
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