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On June 11 2017 07:56 Tumblewood wrote:
and one more thing: why the fuck do i, as mafia, claim so i can stay alive longer (because obviously i can't survive all game off a fakeclaim) and then lynch my teammate the day of the claim? completely defeats the purpose.
Outing the blue
Didn't know Fidei would become the lynch - maybe I would for example
Towncred for lynching GF so you potentially could've lynched both blues
Hoping people would back off Fidei so you could go after people who stayed off the vote or stopped it
A lot of possible reasons really
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i shouldn't have said anything after this
On June 10 2017 08:58 Tumblewood wrote:
so this is what's really going on
if HF is town:
advantages of claiming:
*crickets*
disadvantages of claiming:
- effectively gives up any chance of shooting someone
- if i'm scum, forces the other blue to claim unnecessarily early, denying a potential cop check
- if i'm blue, allows scum to make a play and potentially lynch both of us
OR
if HF is mafia:
advantages of claiming:
- lynches one, potentially two blues
- forces the other blue to out themselves early
disadvantages of claiming:
- dies earlier than he might have otherwise
pick one
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On June 11 2017 08:05 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2017 08:02 Holyflare wrote:
Why do you, as town, claim doctor instead of giving your bh meta response? a bh meta response wouldn't have moved a single vote off me and you know that.
You literally only got votes on you because of my case because you couldn't answer the ez meta post
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On June 10 2017 12:24 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2017 12:06 Tumblewood wrote:
the exact reason i didn't answer your meta question was because i knew that if i tried to explain you would keep arguing his meta and the last thing i wanna do is go down a rabbit hole arguing someone else's meta. so no i won't oblige any more about that
i'm both very annoyed and very vindicated Also perhaps you don't understand how I play mafia. In my world when someone makes a statement they should absolutely have some thought process to back it up and be able to simply explain everything they were doing and thinking. There is nothing to hide if you're town. You seem to have the attitude that everything should be assumed and magically figured out telepathically. If you are town and would have struggled explaining the meta points more than "Oh, he just does more things as town!" then simply saying that is much more agreeable than withholding the information and being obstinate. If your meta read was flimsy at best and based on cursory skimming of multiple games then that would also be great to know. It doesn't all have to be arguments next time.
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also your argument of "Why wouldn't I switch votes off Fidei" doesn't make sense as I outlined. Even if you took Grack, yourself, and LS, BH would have switched immediately over.
If you can take Grack, LS, BH, and Tubesock, that means you would have influenced 3 townies. If that was a play you could have made, you would have done so D1 to save Fidei from being lynched. Obviously if BH wasn't so ready to jump back onto Fidei you would have tried to bus someone else, but convincing people in the last 10 minutes or so to switch all their votes over onto a PB bus would have made you and anyone else that jumps look suspicious, so it makes more sense if you're not confident in switching the votes over to stay and bus Fidei.
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On June 03 2017 10:04 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On June 03 2017 09:05 Tubesock wrote:
Hard to keep up with the flurry of posts.
BH, it's been an hour since you targeted Vivax. No vote yet, how committed are you to this? You don't seem like you're pushing conversation (haven't answered Grack yet). the fuck is this shit hard to keep up with this flurry of 10 posts? that were all one-liners? and you're tryna call someone out for not pushing their rng? I can't even keep this post short while trying to vocalize everything stupid about it. if this isn't for reactions I wanna lynch you for being this bad
On June 03 2017 10:18 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On June 03 2017 10:09 Tubesock wrote:On June 03 2017 10:04 Tumblewood wrote:On June 03 2017 09:05 Tubesock wrote:
Hard to keep up with the flurry of posts.
BH, it's been an hour since you targeted Vivax. No vote yet, how committed are you to this? You don't seem like you're pushing conversation (haven't answered Grack yet). the fuck is this shit hard to keep up with this flurry of 10 posts? that were all one-liners? and you're tryna call someone out for not pushing their rng? I can't even keep this post short while trying to vocalize everything stupid about it. if this isn't for reactions I wanna lynch you for being this bad you don't think that was a hilarious joke? SOooo you're not having fun are you? which part was the jokr
On June 03 2017 10:23 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On June 03 2017 10:20 Tubesock wrote:On June 03 2017 10:18 Tumblewood wrote:On June 03 2017 10:09 Tubesock wrote:On June 03 2017 10:04 Tumblewood wrote:On June 03 2017 09:05 Tubesock wrote:
Hard to keep up with the flurry of posts.
BH, it's been an hour since you targeted Vivax. No vote yet, how committed are you to this? You don't seem like you're pushing conversation (haven't answered Grack yet). the fuck is this shit hard to keep up with this flurry of 10 posts? that were all one-liners? and you're tryna call someone out for not pushing their rng? I can't even keep this post short while trying to vocalize everything stupid about it. if this isn't for reactions I wanna lynch you for being this bad you don't think that was a hilarious joke? SOooo you're not having fun are you? which part was the jokr uh the not keeping up with half a page of one liners. 4 by one peron.... SInce no one is talking, what are your thoughts on BH's RNG lynch? Do you think anything about it? basically meaningless. the reason I don't like how you are trying to discuss bh not keeping his push it whatever is because bh has done effectively nothing and you are trying to discuss the nothing
On June 03 2017 10:41 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On June 03 2017 10:27 Tubesock wrote:On June 03 2017 10:23 Tumblewood wrote:On June 03 2017 10:20 Tubesock wrote:On June 03 2017 10:18 Tumblewood wrote:On June 03 2017 10:09 Tubesock wrote:On June 03 2017 10:04 Tumblewood wrote:On June 03 2017 09:05 Tubesock wrote:
Hard to keep up with the flurry of posts.
BH, it's been an hour since you targeted Vivax. No vote yet, how committed are you to this? You don't seem like you're pushing conversation (haven't answered Grack yet). the fuck is this shit hard to keep up with this flurry of 10 posts? that were all one-liners? and you're tryna call someone out for not pushing their rng? I can't even keep this post short while trying to vocalize everything stupid about it. if this isn't for reactions I wanna lynch you for being this bad you don't think that was a hilarious joke? SOooo you're not having fun are you? which part was the jokr uh the not keeping up with half a page of one liners. 4 by one peron.... SInce no one is talking, what are your thoughts on BH's RNG lynch? Do you think anything about it? basically meaningless. the reason I don't like how you are trying to discuss bh not keeping his push it whatever is because bh has done effectively nothing and you are trying to discuss the nothing So I should discuss Prison Breaks "Hi" post instead or Gracks? BH had the most "interesting" post at that point. Seemed logical. I did actually entertain filter diving LightningStrike cause I think that's funny too with 4 posts or whatever he had at the time. With some conditions I'm absolutely fine with a RNG lynch. What do you say to that? no. the whole point is what bh did was as nothing as the hi post, and you wouldn't discuss that and rng lynches are bad because you get 0 information from them, except based on who thinks it's a stupid idea, but that's pretty useless too
TW's first interactions
really this team comes down to: do we believe these interactions are real or not
and tbh he seems to overrespond?
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TW, there was no way I wasn't claiming today regardless of HF's claim. I green checked grack, what am I gonna do to stay hidden in that scenario? Magically flip a tunnel on him over nothing? Wow no1 will notice that or ask for explanation that I don't have without claiming. So your negative that he forced me to claim and lost us a check is irrelevant.
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when you ask me to explain a read, i'll normally comply. but if you go around pressuring me to explain a meta read, i know you just wanna pick an argument with me because there's no reason i should have to go in depth on what i think of skimming like 10 of someone else's games. it would be like if i went around asking for everyone to explain their tone reads
On June 10 2017 08:58 Tumblewood wrote:
so this is what's really going on
if HF is town:
advantages of claiming:
*crickets*
disadvantages of claiming:
- effectively gives up any chance of shooting someone
- if i'm scum, forces the other blue to claim unnecessarily early, denying a potential cop check
- if i'm blue, allows scum to make a play and potentially lynch both of us
OR
if HF is mafia:
advantages of claiming:
- lynches one, potentially two blues
- forces the other blue to out themselves early
disadvantages of claiming:
- dies earlier than he might have otherwise
pick one
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tbh I think TW/tubesock are so disconnected from the rest in the game that they're going for an all-or-nothing at this point, if TW flips red game will be auto so they may as well try to convince people he's town
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How the fuck does it not matter? It's a game of imperfect information and you check all avenues. You call 90% of the game town and I wanted an explanation on a read that to me doesn't make sense and in fact when I checked didn't even make sense. So then I formulate the question to you and you can't respond.
Gg no re.
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I also always ask people to explain their tone reads
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On June 11 2017 08:17 Holyflare wrote:
How the fuck does it not matter? It's a game of imperfect information and you check all avenues. You call 90% of the game town and I wanted an explanation on a read that to me doesn't make sense and in fact when I checked didn't even make sense. So then I formulate the question to you and you can't respond.
Gg no re.
speaking of checking all avenues, why weren't you posting at 5:29 this morning? and why did you fail to consider bh's lower words per post in his most recent scum game than the two town games preceding it?
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On June 11 2017 08:20 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2017 08:17 Holyflare wrote:
How the fuck does it not matter? It's a game of imperfect information and you check all avenues. You call 90% of the game town and I wanted an explanation on a read that to me doesn't make sense and in fact when I checked didn't even make sense. So then I formulate the question to you and you can't respond.
Gg no re. speaking of checking all avenues, why weren't you posting at 5:29 this morning? and why did you fail to consider bh's lower words per post in his most recent scum game than the two town games preceding it?
Why are you still interacting with / getting mad at someone who you think is scum? Or do you think it's Ritoky?
Like if you think it's HF - why not focus on others to convince them.
Tbh I feel bad about lynching you but at the same time all evidence I find does point towards you and not HF / Ritoky.
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My mind tells me to lynch you and my gut tells me idk what to think anymore
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On June 11 2017 08:20 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2017 08:17 Holyflare wrote:
How the fuck does it not matter? It's a game of imperfect information and you check all avenues. You call 90% of the game town and I wanted an explanation on a read that to me doesn't make sense and in fact when I checked didn't even make sense. So then I formulate the question to you and you can't respond.
Gg no re. speaking of checking all avenues, why weren't you posting at 5:29 this morning? and why did you fail to consider bh's lower words per post in his most recent scum game than the two town games preceding it?
In bed sleeping, stopped posting about 4.30.
I didn't. I compared his previous early games such as fantasy football where he had a slower start and realised that he could well be town this game. But then I coupled that with the fact he hasn't played for a while and could be mafia so he was more of a coin flip than town read early day 1.
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fuck it it's probably TW and I'm just levelling myself here
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What next?
I asked you to look at ritoky, your one hope of survival and you did nothing of the sort. Even his claimed crumbs don't particularly make sense and you didn't even try to look into it. Not once.
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On June 11 2017 08:33 Prison Break wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2017 08:20 Tumblewood wrote:On June 11 2017 08:17 Holyflare wrote:
How the fuck does it not matter? It's a game of imperfect information and you check all avenues. You call 90% of the game town and I wanted an explanation on a read that to me doesn't make sense and in fact when I checked didn't even make sense. So then I formulate the question to you and you can't respond.
Gg no re. speaking of checking all avenues, why weren't you posting at 5:29 this morning? and why did you fail to consider bh's lower words per post in his most recent scum game than the two town games preceding it? Why are you still interacting with / getting mad at someone who you think is scum? Or do you think it's Ritoky? Like if you think it's HF - why not focus on others to convince them. Tbh I feel bad about lynching you but at the same time all evidence I find does point towards you and not HF / Ritoky.
really. all the evidence you find points toward me. even the sick case i posted. w/e
the only reason i'm interacting with hf is to defend myself. like if i just let him attack me and don't say anything how do you think that's going to turn out? and also most other people are afk
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lmao at attacking ritoky being my one hope of survival. if at the start of this day i had any hope for survival it did not involve being less focused
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Like literally none of ritoky's breadcrumbs point to him being cop but you say I'm the mafia. It doesn't make a single bit of sense unless you're mafia and are incredibly out of touch with the game.
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