• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 22:44
CET 04:44
KST 12:44
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT24Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book16Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview13Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info8
Community News
Weekly Cups (Feb 9-15): herO doubles up2ACS replaced by "ASL Season Open" - Starts 21/0228LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals (Feb 10-16)46Weekly Cups (Feb 2-8): Classic, Solar, MaxPax win2Nexon's StarCraft game could be FPS, led by UMS maker16
StarCraft 2
General
Liquipedia WCS Portal Launched ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT Kaelaris on the futue of SC2 and much more... How do you think the 5.0.15 balance patch (Oct 2025) for StarCraft II has affected the game? Nexon's StarCraft game could be FPS, led by UMS maker
Tourneys
StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly) PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar) How do the "codes" work in GSL? Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals (Feb 10-16)
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ? [A] Starcraft Sound Mod
External Content
Mutation # 513 Attrition Warfare The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 512 Overclocked Mutation # 511 Temple of Rebirth
Brood War
General
[LIVE] [S:21] ASL Season Open Day 1 ACS replaced by "ASL Season Open" - Starts 21/02 Gypsy to Korea BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ A cwal.gg Extension - Easily keep track of anyone
Tourneys
Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 1 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0 KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Zealot bombing is no longer popular? Fighting Spirit mining rates Current Meta
Other Games
General Games
ZeroSpace Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile Diablo 2 thread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Ask and answer stupid questions here! Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TL MMA Pick'em Pool 2013
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Inside the Communication of …
TrAiDoS
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2181 users

Newbie Student Mafia XXVI - Page 131

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 129 130 131 132 133 158 Next
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
June 10 2017 21:32 GMT
#2601
HF glad you're ok. I'd never vote you in real life.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
June 10 2017 21:39 GMT
#2602
HF is right that I don't have anything but really a gut feel that Tumble is town. There's nothing really in his filter that is definitively town. Most of it is that I know that the better mafia players have to have some sort of plan. play, or whatever for a mafia win. HF has it more difficult I think because no matter what he is never definitively town. He's admitted this in this game.

Do you guys not think that he's on a timer if he's mafia? I don't know why mafia!HF would pick vig to fakeclaim. But it's not something I think is super outlandish. What I do think is outlandish is someone holding their shot for days. Especially when they generally die early on.
Prison Break
Profile Joined April 2017
326 Posts
June 10 2017 21:46 GMT
#2603
He already said that he didn't know who to shoot so not shooting is better than killing a townie

You're acting like he has a 1-shot cop check and holds it or something, a vig shot can actually backfire hard, and he explained how it would give us 1 less mislynch, so it's essentially meaningless, to vig or lynch someone? a lynch at least gives more info in votes etc
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 10 2017 22:05 GMT
#2604
Still would never shoot a person to lose a mislynch when I'm unsure on everyone. I claimed mostly because i spent the night narrowing down who was town and it ended up being everyone. So i claimed to fight tw.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 10 2017 22:37 GMT
#2605
Soz if you're town tw, don't think you are though.
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 10 2017 22:45 GMT
#2606
On June 11 2017 07:37 Holyflare wrote:
Soz if you're town tw, don't think you are though.

you're not
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 10 2017 22:49 GMT
#2607
i don't have anything more to say exactly. i still have that sick case explaining why hf should never claim when he did. (as in, no advantage at all to claiming then if he's town, but some notable disadvantages including sacrificing his shot) and i still think it's pretty damning evidence so either you're bad, you're not reading, or i'm missing something yet to be pointed out. i'll link that one, and if hf links his refutation i'll link my counter-refutation
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 10 2017 22:52 GMT
#2608
On June 10 2017 08:58 Tumblewood wrote:
so this is what's really going on

if HF is town:
advantages of claiming:
*crickets*

disadvantages of claiming:
- effectively gives up any chance of shooting someone
- if i'm scum, forces the other blue to claim unnecessarily early, denying a potential cop check
- if i'm blue, allows scum to make a play and potentially lynch both of us

OR

if HF is mafia:
advantages of claiming:
- lynches one, potentially two blues
- forces the other blue to out themselves early

disadvantages of claiming:
- dies earlier than he might have otherwise

pick one

speaks for itself. if this doesn't convince you then i give up, because clearly nothing i say is getting through
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 10 2017 22:56 GMT
#2609
and one more thing: why the fuck do i, as mafia, claim so i can stay alive longer (because obviously i can't survive all game off a fakeclaim) and then lynch my teammate the day of the claim? completely defeats the purpose.
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 10 2017 22:57 GMT
#2610
ah i see i'm in afk-vote land
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 10 2017 22:57 GMT
#2611
fyi autoing only works when you're right
good times for all
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
June 10 2017 22:58 GMT
#2612
good thing i am right.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 10 2017 22:59 GMT
#2613
You didn't have a choice on fidei he was a random good wagon with no brakes
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
June 10 2017 23:00 GMT
#2614
On June 11 2017 07:56 Tumblewood wrote:
and one more thing: why the fuck do i, as mafia, claim so i can stay alive longer (because obviously i can't survive all game off a fakeclaim) and then lynch my teammate the day of the claim? completely defeats the purpose.


you act like you knew it was going to land on fidei when you claimed. nope.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 10 2017 23:01 GMT
#2615
On June 11 2017 07:59 Holyflare wrote:
You didn't have a choice on fidei he was a random good wagon with no brakes

the shenanny had no brakes but the only person who actually card about it being fidei was onegu. i had the opportunity to call for pb's lynch or even conv's lynch but you'll notice that every time i brought it up i showed a clear preference for fidei
good times for all
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 10 2017 23:02 GMT
#2616
Why do you, as town, claim doctor instead of giving your bh meta response?
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
June 10 2017 23:04 GMT
#2617
On June 11 2017 08:01 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2017 07:59 Holyflare wrote:
You didn't have a choice on fidei he was a random good wagon with no brakes

the shenanny had no brakes but the only person who actually card about it being fidei was onegu. i had the opportunity to call for pb's lynch or even conv's lynch but you'll notice that every time i brought it up i showed a clear preference for fidei


I had a vote on PB already and Grack only followed you because you were on Fidei, so no. you actually could have redirected it to PB and you didn't
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 10 2017 23:04 GMT
#2618
i think post game i'm gonna do a lot of complaining, because the only thing that makes anyone listen isn't sick cases, it's being an arrogant piece of shit
good times for all
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
June 10 2017 23:05 GMT
#2619
On June 05 2017 08:54 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2017 08:53 Grackaroni wrote:
I'm going to consolidate to Prison Break.

Err I mean the guy TW switched to. Heh.


If you want proof that Grack followed your vote
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 10 2017 23:05 GMT
#2620
On June 11 2017 08:02 Holyflare wrote:
Why do you, as town, claim doctor instead of giving your bh meta response?

a bh meta response wouldn't have moved a single vote off me and you know that.
good times for all
Prev 1 129 130 131 132 133 158 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
00:00
HomeStory Cup 28 - Playoffs
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RuFF_SC2 252
Nina 129
PiLiPiLi 93
StarCraft: Brood War
Dewaltoss 58
Leta 53
Noble 44
Terrorterran 10
Icarus 3
Dota 2
monkeys_forever607
NeuroSwarm155
LuMiX1
League of Legends
JimRising 676
Counter-Strike
taco 754
Other Games
summit1g11604
C9.Mang0590
syndereN96
Trikslyr63
ViBE39
minikerr3
Organizations
StarCraft: Brood War
Afreeca ASL 2500
Other Games
gamesdonequick1151
BasetradeTV128
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• davetesta19
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• RayReign 28
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Scarra1507
• Lourlo569
Other Games
• WagamamaTV406
Upcoming Events
PiG Sty Festival
5h 16m
herO vs NightMare
Reynor vs Cure
CranKy Ducklings
6h 16m
Epic.LAN
8h 16m
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
11h 16m
Replay Cast
20h 16m
PiG Sty Festival
1d 5h
Serral vs YoungYakov
ByuN vs ShoWTimE
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 6h
Replay Cast
1d 20h
Replay Cast
2 days
Wardi Open
2 days
[ Show More ]
Monday Night Weeklies
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
WardiTV Winter Champion…
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
WardiTV Winter Champion…
4 days
The PondCast
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Korean StarCraft League
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S1: King of Kings
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 1st Round
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 1st Round Qualifier
WardiTV Winter 2026
PiG Sty Festival 7.0
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025

Upcoming

Acropolis #4 - TS5
Jeongseon Sooper Cup
Spring Cup 2026: China & Korea Invitational
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 2nd Round
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 2nd Round Qualifier
Acropolis #4 - TS6
Acropolis #4
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
RSL Revival: Season 4
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
FISSURE Playground #3
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.