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Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
June 10 2017 21:32 GMT
#2601
HF glad you're ok. I'd never vote you in real life.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
June 10 2017 21:39 GMT
#2602
HF is right that I don't have anything but really a gut feel that Tumble is town. There's nothing really in his filter that is definitively town. Most of it is that I know that the better mafia players have to have some sort of plan. play, or whatever for a mafia win. HF has it more difficult I think because no matter what he is never definitively town. He's admitted this in this game.

Do you guys not think that he's on a timer if he's mafia? I don't know why mafia!HF would pick vig to fakeclaim. But it's not something I think is super outlandish. What I do think is outlandish is someone holding their shot for days. Especially when they generally die early on.
Prison Break
Profile Joined April 2017
326 Posts
June 10 2017 21:46 GMT
#2603
He already said that he didn't know who to shoot so not shooting is better than killing a townie

You're acting like he has a 1-shot cop check and holds it or something, a vig shot can actually backfire hard, and he explained how it would give us 1 less mislynch, so it's essentially meaningless, to vig or lynch someone? a lynch at least gives more info in votes etc
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 10 2017 22:05 GMT
#2604
Still would never shoot a person to lose a mislynch when I'm unsure on everyone. I claimed mostly because i spent the night narrowing down who was town and it ended up being everyone. So i claimed to fight tw.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 10 2017 22:37 GMT
#2605
Soz if you're town tw, don't think you are though.
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 10 2017 22:45 GMT
#2606
On June 11 2017 07:37 Holyflare wrote:
Soz if you're town tw, don't think you are though.

you're not
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 10 2017 22:49 GMT
#2607
i don't have anything more to say exactly. i still have that sick case explaining why hf should never claim when he did. (as in, no advantage at all to claiming then if he's town, but some notable disadvantages including sacrificing his shot) and i still think it's pretty damning evidence so either you're bad, you're not reading, or i'm missing something yet to be pointed out. i'll link that one, and if hf links his refutation i'll link my counter-refutation
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 10 2017 22:52 GMT
#2608
On June 10 2017 08:58 Tumblewood wrote:
so this is what's really going on

if HF is town:
advantages of claiming:
*crickets*

disadvantages of claiming:
- effectively gives up any chance of shooting someone
- if i'm scum, forces the other blue to claim unnecessarily early, denying a potential cop check
- if i'm blue, allows scum to make a play and potentially lynch both of us

OR

if HF is mafia:
advantages of claiming:
- lynches one, potentially two blues
- forces the other blue to out themselves early

disadvantages of claiming:
- dies earlier than he might have otherwise

pick one

speaks for itself. if this doesn't convince you then i give up, because clearly nothing i say is getting through
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 10 2017 22:56 GMT
#2609
and one more thing: why the fuck do i, as mafia, claim so i can stay alive longer (because obviously i can't survive all game off a fakeclaim) and then lynch my teammate the day of the claim? completely defeats the purpose.
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 10 2017 22:57 GMT
#2610
ah i see i'm in afk-vote land
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 10 2017 22:57 GMT
#2611
fyi autoing only works when you're right
good times for all
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
June 10 2017 22:58 GMT
#2612
good thing i am right.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 10 2017 22:59 GMT
#2613
You didn't have a choice on fidei he was a random good wagon with no brakes
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
June 10 2017 23:00 GMT
#2614
On June 11 2017 07:56 Tumblewood wrote:
and one more thing: why the fuck do i, as mafia, claim so i can stay alive longer (because obviously i can't survive all game off a fakeclaim) and then lynch my teammate the day of the claim? completely defeats the purpose.


you act like you knew it was going to land on fidei when you claimed. nope.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 10 2017 23:01 GMT
#2615
On June 11 2017 07:59 Holyflare wrote:
You didn't have a choice on fidei he was a random good wagon with no brakes

the shenanny had no brakes but the only person who actually card about it being fidei was onegu. i had the opportunity to call for pb's lynch or even conv's lynch but you'll notice that every time i brought it up i showed a clear preference for fidei
good times for all
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 10 2017 23:02 GMT
#2616
Why do you, as town, claim doctor instead of giving your bh meta response?
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
June 10 2017 23:04 GMT
#2617
On June 11 2017 08:01 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2017 07:59 Holyflare wrote:
You didn't have a choice on fidei he was a random good wagon with no brakes

the shenanny had no brakes but the only person who actually card about it being fidei was onegu. i had the opportunity to call for pb's lynch or even conv's lynch but you'll notice that every time i brought it up i showed a clear preference for fidei


I had a vote on PB already and Grack only followed you because you were on Fidei, so no. you actually could have redirected it to PB and you didn't
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 10 2017 23:04 GMT
#2618
i think post game i'm gonna do a lot of complaining, because the only thing that makes anyone listen isn't sick cases, it's being an arrogant piece of shit
good times for all
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
June 10 2017 23:05 GMT
#2619
On June 05 2017 08:54 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2017 08:53 Grackaroni wrote:
I'm going to consolidate to Prison Break.

Err I mean the guy TW switched to. Heh.


If you want proof that Grack followed your vote
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 10 2017 23:05 GMT
#2620
On June 11 2017 08:02 Holyflare wrote:
Why do you, as town, claim doctor instead of giving your bh meta response?

a bh meta response wouldn't have moved a single vote off me and you know that.
good times for all
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