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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 09 2017 19:37 GMT
#2281
PB we both got Tubesock as PoE scum and I know you got doubts of my alignment but no worries HF should just shoot me if TW flips roleblocker and we would win the game from there.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
June 09 2017 19:37 GMT
#2282
On June 10 2017 04:23 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2017 03:47 ritoky wrote:
On June 10 2017 03:41 LightningStrike wrote:
Also Imperial I think had the most pages of a single mafia game if I remember correctly.


LS, i am interested in who you think is mafia outside the claims?

From my PoV it's one of Covnersion, PB, and Tubesock by PoE alone. PB seems likely town by meta. So that leaves Conversion and Tubesock as my last scum there. Tubesock did vote 2nd on James but if TW was the roleblocker he probably would do that bus honestly. Conversion I liked some of his posts after I read his filter a bit but his weird reaction to the flip seems odd defending himself about being a team with PB. So ya One of Tubesock and Conversion is my last scum you?


I think figuring out you is the key for me to solve the game. So walk me through your read on me and HF respectively, since from what I can gather your TW read is entirely "he's un-cc'd blue" with no further interaction.

For me you read me town for examining a past game's filter, then I called you mafia, and you seemingly wavered, then you didn't interact with me forever, and then you said mine was the most believable claim. Is there more depth to it, and what makes mine the most believable?

Then explain your hf read over the course of the game, because in your filter you speak a disproportionate amount to hf compared to anyone else in the game, but I never got the sense you committed to a solid read whether that be out of paranoia or?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 09 2017 19:39 GMT
#2283
On June 10 2017 04:34 Holyflare wrote:
And his switch was very carefree I liked it a lot

Switching from roleblocker to GF would better than losing the roleblocker to be fair there since the roleblocker could still block cop checks and your shot too.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 09 2017 19:42 GMT
#2284
On June 10 2017 04:37 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2017 04:23 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 10 2017 03:47 ritoky wrote:
On June 10 2017 03:41 LightningStrike wrote:
Also Imperial I think had the most pages of a single mafia game if I remember correctly.


LS, i am interested in who you think is mafia outside the claims?

From my PoV it's one of Covnersion, PB, and Tubesock by PoE alone. PB seems likely town by meta. So that leaves Conversion and Tubesock as my last scum there. Tubesock did vote 2nd on James but if TW was the roleblocker he probably would do that bus honestly. Conversion I liked some of his posts after I read his filter a bit but his weird reaction to the flip seems odd defending himself about being a team with PB. So ya One of Tubesock and Conversion is my last scum you?


I think figuring out you is the key for me to solve the game. So walk me through your read on me and HF respectively, since from what I can gather your TW read is entirely "he's un-cc'd blue" with no further interaction.

For me you read me town for examining a past game's filter, then I called you mafia, and you seemingly wavered, then you didn't interact with me forever, and then you said mine was the most believable claim. Is there more depth to it, and what makes mine the most believable?

Then explain your hf read over the course of the game, because in your filter you speak a disproportionate amount to hf compared to anyone else in the game, but I never got the sense you committed to a solid read whether that be out of paranoia or?

Part of my HF read was paranoia especially Day 1 and ritoky did called me out on that and moved him to null. Didn't like his trolling to me towards EoD 2. Now I think his attacking TW's doc claim since Day 1 lines up with him actually being blue.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 09 2017 19:42 GMT
#2285
On June 10 2017 04:39 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2017 04:34 Holyflare wrote:
And his switch was very carefree I liked it a lot

Switching from roleblocker to GF would better than losing the roleblocker to be fair there since the roleblocker could still block cop checks and your shot too.


No it looked natural
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
June 09 2017 19:44 GMT
#2286
why couldn't grack have been red and made my life easy...
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 09 2017 19:45 GMT
#2287
On June 10 2017 04:42 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2017 04:39 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 10 2017 04:34 Holyflare wrote:
And his switch was very carefree I liked it a lot

Switching from roleblocker to GF would better than losing the roleblocker to be fair there since the roleblocker could still block cop checks and your shot too.


No it looked natural

I guess? Let me recheck his switch to James EoD 1.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
June 09 2017 19:45 GMT
#2288
On June 10 2017 04:42 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2017 04:37 ritoky wrote:
On June 10 2017 04:23 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 10 2017 03:47 ritoky wrote:
On June 10 2017 03:41 LightningStrike wrote:
Also Imperial I think had the most pages of a single mafia game if I remember correctly.


LS, i am interested in who you think is mafia outside the claims?

From my PoV it's one of Covnersion, PB, and Tubesock by PoE alone. PB seems likely town by meta. So that leaves Conversion and Tubesock as my last scum there. Tubesock did vote 2nd on James but if TW was the roleblocker he probably would do that bus honestly. Conversion I liked some of his posts after I read his filter a bit but his weird reaction to the flip seems odd defending himself about being a team with PB. So ya One of Tubesock and Conversion is my last scum you?


I think figuring out you is the key for me to solve the game. So walk me through your read on me and HF respectively, since from what I can gather your TW read is entirely "he's un-cc'd blue" with no further interaction.

For me you read me town for examining a past game's filter, then I called you mafia, and you seemingly wavered, then you didn't interact with me forever, and then you said mine was the most believable claim. Is there more depth to it, and what makes mine the most believable?

Then explain your hf read over the course of the game, because in your filter you speak a disproportionate amount to hf compared to anyone else in the game, but I never got the sense you committed to a solid read whether that be out of paranoia or?

Part of my HF read was paranoia especially Day 1 and ritoky did called me out on that and moved him to null. Didn't like his trolling to me towards EoD 2. Now I think his attacking TW's doc claim since Day 1 lines up with him actually being blue.


what specifically made my claim most believable?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 09 2017 19:49 GMT
#2289
On June 10 2017 04:45 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2017 04:42 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 10 2017 04:37 ritoky wrote:
On June 10 2017 04:23 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 10 2017 03:47 ritoky wrote:
On June 10 2017 03:41 LightningStrike wrote:
Also Imperial I think had the most pages of a single mafia game if I remember correctly.


LS, i am interested in who you think is mafia outside the claims?

From my PoV it's one of Covnersion, PB, and Tubesock by PoE alone. PB seems likely town by meta. So that leaves Conversion and Tubesock as my last scum there. Tubesock did vote 2nd on James but if TW was the roleblocker he probably would do that bus honestly. Conversion I liked some of his posts after I read his filter a bit but his weird reaction to the flip seems odd defending himself about being a team with PB. So ya One of Tubesock and Conversion is my last scum you?


I think figuring out you is the key for me to solve the game. So walk me through your read on me and HF respectively, since from what I can gather your TW read is entirely "he's un-cc'd blue" with no further interaction.

For me you read me town for examining a past game's filter, then I called you mafia, and you seemingly wavered, then you didn't interact with me forever, and then you said mine was the most believable claim. Is there more depth to it, and what makes mine the most believable?

Then explain your hf read over the course of the game, because in your filter you speak a disproportionate amount to hf compared to anyone else in the game, but I never got the sense you committed to a solid read whether that be out of paranoia or?

Part of my HF read was paranoia especially Day 1 and ritoky did called me out on that and moved him to null. Didn't like his trolling to me towards EoD 2. Now I think his attacking TW's doc claim since Day 1 lines up with him actually being blue.


what specifically made my claim most believable?

I found one of your bread crumbs to be very similar to how you treated malongo in I'm the Cop You Idiot Town Revenge trying to force him to hard claim his role and plus your checks make sense although i wish you checked me Night 1. Plus I found you pretty townie too before the claim anyways.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 09 2017 19:51 GMT
#2290
This was the post where I did find one of your breadcrumbs ritoky:
On June 09 2017 12:17 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2017 12:15 Conversion wrote:
really? I read through ritoky and it seems his play seems to sort of center around his checks.

On June 04 2017 14:33 ritoky wrote:
i think the town is something like; me, tube, vivax, hf; and tentatively conv and pb

fidei has like....almost exact opposite reads of me. dunno what to think about that.

reading LS mafia, what else is new for me.

btdt has done nothing to change my opinion, still think he is probably mafia.

tw doesn't make a whole lot of sense. defending grack for ???? defending grack from spooky ghosts pushing him???? missed joke early. says "mindmeld" then doesn't say what the mindmeld was. mafia pile.

grack made a joke while being yelled at by BH, so he gets half a town point; but otherwise he hasn't done jack esp for a 2 page filter. actually i just looked at his filter and i take his half point back cuz he doesn't really have any posts pushing the game forward.

BH has been disappointing. i expected RNG -> a play or snowball it into some reads. if that was it, he could be mafia.

onegu...flip a coin.


D1 read on BTDT, claims him as scum. once he is unsure because of the emotional play, he checks BTDT, and drops the entire case on BTDT and gives small town reads on him afterwards.

D2 ritoky argues with Grack, finds him suspicious, checks him.

claims D3, confirmed cop.

either he's mindfucking me and set this up since D1 with scum, or he's actually cop. I'm inclined to believe he's more cop than HF/TW lying about their claim.

TW who did you try to save N2 and did you get RB'd?

There was this post I think might of been him bread crumbing he was blue in the first place:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2017 13:03 ritoky wrote:
vivax are you actually claiming for realsies? like never back down never surrender claiming? cuz i am kinda over people fake claiming and softing

He did something similar in I'm the Cop you Idiot Town's Revenge where he was the doctor trying to see if someone was really claiming or not.

May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 09 2017 19:53 GMT
#2291
Ls what makes my claim believable instead of a mafia strategy?
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
June 09 2017 19:54 GMT
#2292
On June 10 2017 04:23 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2017 03:47 ritoky wrote:
On June 10 2017 03:41 LightningStrike wrote:
Also Imperial I think had the most pages of a single mafia game if I remember correctly.


LS, i am interested in who you think is mafia outside the claims?

From my PoV it's one of Covnersion, PB, and Tubesock by PoE alone. PB seems likely town by meta. So that leaves Conversion and Tubesock as my last scum there. Tubesock did vote 2nd on James but if TW was the roleblocker he probably would do that bus honestly. Conversion I liked some of his posts after I read his filter a bit but his weird reaction to the flip seems odd defending himself about being a team with PB. So ya One of Tubesock and Conversion is my last scum you?


are you seriously calling me possible scum in a post I made during D2 in reply to BTDT saying I was a scum team with PB?

can you make a better case than that?
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 09 2017 19:58 GMT
#2293
On June 10 2017 04:54 Conversion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2017 04:23 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 10 2017 03:47 ritoky wrote:
On June 10 2017 03:41 LightningStrike wrote:
Also Imperial I think had the most pages of a single mafia game if I remember correctly.


LS, i am interested in who you think is mafia outside the claims?

From my PoV it's one of Covnersion, PB, and Tubesock by PoE alone. PB seems likely town by meta. So that leaves Conversion and Tubesock as my last scum there. Tubesock did vote 2nd on James but if TW was the roleblocker he probably would do that bus honestly. Conversion I liked some of his posts after I read his filter a bit but his weird reaction to the flip seems odd defending himself about being a team with PB. So ya One of Tubesock and Conversion is my last scum you?


are you seriously calling me possible scum in a post I made during D2 in reply to BTDT saying I was a scum team with PB?

can you make a better case than that?

You and Tubesock are only PoE scum at this point because I townreading PB after everything..
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 09 2017 19:59 GMT
#2294
On June 10 2017 04:53 Holyflare wrote:
Ls what makes my claim believable instead of a mafia strategy?

It seems very genuine espcally how you kept telling me he not the doctor over and over again and I kept telling you he was UnCCed. Plus if TW flips doctor you are scum so there's that from my PoV.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 09 2017 19:59 GMT
#2295
On June 10 2017 04:53 Holyflare wrote:
Ls what makes my claim believable instead of a mafia strategy?

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 09 2017 20:00 GMT
#2296
If he flips doctor why am I mafia?
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 09 2017 20:00 GMT
#2297
On June 10 2017 04:58 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2017 04:54 Conversion wrote:
On June 10 2017 04:23 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 10 2017 03:47 ritoky wrote:
On June 10 2017 03:41 LightningStrike wrote:
Also Imperial I think had the most pages of a single mafia game if I remember correctly.


LS, i am interested in who you think is mafia outside the claims?

From my PoV it's one of Covnersion, PB, and Tubesock by PoE alone. PB seems likely town by meta. So that leaves Conversion and Tubesock as my last scum there. Tubesock did vote 2nd on James but if TW was the roleblocker he probably would do that bus honestly. Conversion I liked some of his posts after I read his filter a bit but his weird reaction to the flip seems odd defending himself about being a team with PB. So ya One of Tubesock and Conversion is my last scum you?


are you seriously calling me possible scum in a post I made during D2 in reply to BTDT saying I was a scum team with PB?

can you make a better case than that?

You and Tubesock are only PoE scum at this point because I townreading PB after everything I had said about his meta which HF does support as well..

May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 09 2017 20:01 GMT
#2298
On June 10 2017 05:00 Holyflare wrote:
If he flips doctor why am I mafia?

because I find ritoky's claim the most believable one out of you three given my experience with playing with his blue in Town's Revenge.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 09 2017 20:03 GMT
#2299
You're mafia you used meta.
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 09 2017 20:04 GMT
#2300
On June 10 2017 05:03 Holyflare wrote:
You're mafia you used meta.

How does using meta make me scum? You used meta too on PB so what makes mine different?
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
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