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On May 01 2017 06:51 Prison Break wrote: damn this takes long to fill, is this common here or does it have to do with the specific game or something? idk, by all logic the game should have filled by now. I'm a little worried | ||
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On May 10 2017 11:28 LightningStrike wrote: I just noticed HF already voting Vivax yet Vivax only posted once. Why you voting him so early HF? I think this has to be town!ls | ||
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On May 10 2017 14:11 raynpelikoneet wrote: Palmar plz for once lets work together and murder some mafia, shall we? Besides LS and you i kinda think Damdred and fuba can be town too so far. what do you see in fuba? | ||
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On May 10 2017 23:01 Palmar wrote: He didn't sound like he was having fun when he was talking to me. He was annoyed and called me rude, and I am never rude. Always polite. I don't remember when he was talking to you but when he wasn't he was having fun | ||
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grack is my rock for now. and ls, but I always read him town. (don't get confused, he still is town. I'm always right.) for now I'm gonna just ignore Palmar and Hf, because Palmar is obstinate and not crusading yet Hf is kinda just yelling and picking fights. plus one of them or rayn will probably die n1 Damdred is a little good in my book prison break seems like most players I see from other sites. he seems to at least believe what he's saying skynx has disappointed me so far. he reminds me of myself which is usually a bad sign fuba had one post I thought sucked but other than that I've been ignoring him rayn is town I think? I like rayn, he's doin good stuff anyone else I just forgot was playing | ||
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On May 11 2017 09:08 Vivax wrote: You can do better than what you're doing now which is just completely half assed. You don't need to have an overview of the entire game at all time but at least some parts that should be more important to you than others. Instead of one good opinion you give 10 lazy ones cause you think that it's what's to be expected from you. That said, it's one more reason to lynch you for me. ah yes, we are playing in that world, where everyone has complete cases on their #1 scumread and townread by mid-d1 | ||
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On May 11 2017 09:57 Vivax wrote: You do seem more like stoned townie after posting more and another look at your filter, so there's that. Oh, over are the days when you put more effort into your posts :[. But yeah, you can go off the hook for now. I put a lot of effort into my posts before, and I still got lynched every other game, but I had less fun. and yes my entrance was a joke | ||
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he has been absent almost all game (worth a shot d1 for that reason alone imo) and when here has not said anything except to sheep a bad case | ||
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On May 12 2017 04:19 fuba wrote: Also the case wasn't bad at the time. Was the best case in the thread imo. it was pretty bad, unless you have the point of view of someone who has never been on this site | ||
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sl never really plays d1, basically NAI no matter what. vivax can pull off scum for one day and no more. | ||
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i was gonna do some VCA but i only got as far as fuba before i wanted to lynch him again. let me recount his stated opinions on the lynch:
two hours before deadline fuba wrote: it comes down to... i thought this was weird but it's probably fine, i'm not sure who i want to vote. and so you're here, it's deadline, and you're uncertain of who you wanna vote because you are less convinced of your only scumread, right? so what do you do? you look for scum, right?Not sure who I want to vote for now. I'll assume what sl said is true based on the fact that no one contested what he said... I thought it was strange he kept his vote on grack while trying to get everyone to vote for HF or LS, but looks like he never dropped his grack scumread, so that's probably ok. fuba posted sporadically in the two hours before deadline, so clearly he was present, but... there's no analysis of anything. he defends the case he sheeped as: On May 12 2017 04:19 fuba wrote: so apparently it was just the best he had at the time, which points toward something better to sheep, right? nope. does not even attempt analysis. but, half an hour before deadline, he could be found calmly discussing whether a tell on palmar (who had no votes and was basically irrelevant) was nai. and finally, with less than ten minutes to go, he stated his opinion on some non-irrelevat wagons:Also the case wasn't bad at the time. Was the best case in the thread imo. nine minutes before deadline fuba wrote: but instead of, i dunno, trying to prevent a df or grack lynch when the damdred wagon reached three votes, fuba just... chilled on sl, which would have meant a df lynch if not for some last-minute vote switches.I don't really want DF. Also don't want grack. SL definitely out? at the minute of deadline, this was fuba's final post: evidently he prefers, at deadline, to ask a question about someone with no votes than say anything about the two wagons that have just formed and have nearly equal votes, and one of which he supposedly has an opinion on. TL;DR fuba explicitly stated two hours before deadline that he did not know who to vote for (though he left his vote on the person who he sheeped onto despite seemingly no longer being convinced of that), and though present he made no effort to clear up any of the uncertainty. and despite not wanting a df lynch, fuba did absolutely nothing to prevent it when he had a clear opportunity to. he clearly did not care about anything he said. so either a) df is town and fuba didn't care because both wagons were town or b) df is scum and fuba didn't want to get his hands dirty, though that part is meh. dm to me though because fuba is scummy as fuck regardless of what df is | ||
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of course first i have to establish that there isn't really such a thing as anti-incrimination. townreads will always be a more wishy-washy sort of read than scum reads which means no one is allowed to yell at you when you call someoine town , i think. the smarter thing to do was probably to make a refutation to the scum case but oh well, i am no weenie so here are some examples of grack doing things that are townie things to do. like calling people out: + Show Spoiler + On May 13 2017 05:42 Grackaroni wrote: boom rektDude you didn't even show up. You were like "Oh no we have only a 5% chance of success. Allow me to proceed to do absolutely nothing!" On May 10 2017 17:36 Grackaroni wrote: Honestly this is seeming pretty fishy to me. Before you were attacking me for making no conclusion and now you are changing your mind because the whole time you thought there shouldn't have been any conclusion? this post (and also the one where he responds to the damdred WoT) also indicate that he is closely reading and actually analyzing the game. which is ofc a Townie Thing To Do and having fun. but not like shapelog trolling, actually being funny. also kinda had a real purpose behind it + Show Spoiler + On May 10 2017 15:24 Grackaroni wrote: scum imitating trolling always end up being cryptic and useless, and not actually good like this. that was a much better explanation than the one outside the spoilerThey looked kinda like this: On May 10 2017 18:48 Grackaroni wrote: I don't know who started this noted thing but it's super obnoxious. admit it u are literally laughing ur ass off but the way this is done conveys his genuine irritation with the noted thing too part of the difficulty in writing this is i don't get how on earth he is scum anyway. it is just so obvious from his filter that this guy is town. but if you have a couple points against him i can tell you they're shit and we can make a little more progress towards Not Lynching An Obvious Townie On Day 2 | ||
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On May 14 2017 03:59 Holyflare wrote: This is your theory. DF is dead now so why would your theory that "mafia wants 2 town wagons so the other gets lynched tomorrow" still hold true? i did not see that pb post or when it was posted but it is so far off from whatever the mafia thought process could have been that i think pb has to be town. like the opposite of tmi. if you are mafia and trying to be wrong on their thought process you are at least reasonable and not obviously way off | ||
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On May 14 2017 08:33 raynpelikoneet wrote: Read my filter ffs... nooooo not filters my worst enemy | ||
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grack rayn pb ls sl scum pool 1 - pick two, one of which is fuba skynx vivax fuba scum pool 2 - pick one hf palmar | ||
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On May 14 2017 09:25 Holyflare wrote: Why the fuck am i lumped into 100% of people's scum lists. logic in a world where palmar flips town, who the fuck made that nightkill? all but pb and maybe someone else respects you enough to kill one of you | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + i kid. ls is town, probably | ||
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I don't see the problem. if it is just you scumreading the other two I don't care | ||
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On May 15 2017 03:28 Grackaroni wrote: Actually maybe we should kill LS. I'm not the best at reading him but there were quite a few big names calling him out and not much movement there. I don't think he's been all that townie this game. ls is so clueless there's no way he's scum | ||
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the classic 6-people receiving votes does not seem auspicious to me. but hey that's just my opinion | ||
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hf: *indignified sniffling in corner* | ||
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my townreads are voting my townreads and my scumreads are voting my scumreads. except it's not even the same ones out of those groups, it's like everyone just rolled a dice and guessed what number came up | ||
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On May 15 2017 04:23 Holyflare wrote: tumble your case on fuba is essentially a wall of text version of what I've been saying so now that I'm unsure of it, why aren't you? do you think i should be unsure just because you are? because that doesn't make any sense. i concede that he is usually a sparse poster as town, but in haunted mansion when he was town every post was super townie and good, which was enough to eventually get me past the aforementioned sparse posting. but here he rarely posts and when he does it's a bunch of nothing | ||
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On May 15 2017 05:05 LightningStrike wrote: this vote count looks nasty we need to consolidate onto people. there is a nice ole wagon with four people already. and at the end of it there is a mafia | ||
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On May 15 2017 05:09 fuba wrote: I can honestly say that I have never seen tumblewood make an intelligent call  pls you were in hm3 when i started the shapelog wagon | ||
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I am the stupid | ||
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On May 16 2017 01:34 Vivax wrote: Might also be a good time for timing analysis. The average scum posts in bursts at strategic times cause mostly they don't feel they have to say something unless for self preservation. Pretty much what gives me away every time. I think skynx already falls into the pattern given the time between these two posts: Post 1: End of night 1. Post 2: Shortly before EoD D2. Obviously with the apologetic tone and a proper excuse for not posting for so long. Not a townie tone imho. I think LS and Grack also have such timings. Grack has been posting very consistently during D1 racking up 6 pages of filter. Since N2 he produced two. LS similarly, but too lazy to dig up the timestamps. He posted a blob of meta on himself when rayn called him scum in between the night and his decision to push for rayn. Looks sketchy overall, also while I was questioning him EoD one answer didn't even make sense and he seemed to have holes in his reads and was content with not having a complete picture. SL idk, I actually felt like he was the towniest of the bunch. But I feel like I'm bad at reading him and reading his last mafia game didn't give me too many new insights. why don't you mention pb in this? are you just writing him off as town? I remember him being sparse but good when he posts | ||
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I am 95% on vivax, rayn, ls, pb, rayn being town, and we have 4 lynched. so if we stay outside of those names we win most of the time. I think I'm just gonna consolidate on the biggest non-town wagon because chaos is the enemy. basically all i want is for scum to not control the lynches | ||
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there is no cop I'm parity cop. n1 checked pb, n2 checked palmar. they're different alignment so basically skynx is mafia with palmar and trying to bait out the blues before he dies | ||
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On May 16 2017 09:17 Palmar wrote: think bro If he claims parity cop the medic can claim to confirm the setup. TW hopes this happens so mafia can find the medic in one go. If he claims cop it's just claim vs cc and no reason for anyone else to claim. gosh is there any reason scum!skynx might possibly claim something outside of the setup, to bait the double claim. is there any universe at all where that makes sense. nope guess it doesn't in palmarland | ||
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still worried, for other reasons | ||
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so glad we'll be out of this clusterfuck tomorrow | ||
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scum played well as a team up to day 3 when the check kinda fucked me over. not a fan of full cop for this reason but whatever, i can deal with it. this was of course aided by town giving us a lot of targets and not consolidating. after the check and the following two days (which were more or less foregone conclusions imo) the game got super boring and bad. town should be ashamed of themselves for lynching Palmar, but maybe not for losing LyLo because pb played a good game. I'm proud of myself for really pushing a mislynch and glad to see a strong new player. gg to everyone and thanks to the hosts | ||
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) and it didn't make any sense to me. Since really, i know my own alignment and even if fuba is mafia there is no reason anyone of you three would most likely respond differently, therefore your conclusion didn't make much sense to me -- and looked more to be like what i said.![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/WEbrIpI.gif)
