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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21959 Posts
May 15 2017 13:28 GMT
#1562
I'm sheeping rayn if he starts to play again but I'm not blindly lynching down his D1 lists.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21959 Posts
May 15 2017 13:29 GMT
#1563
Take off the grumpy face and help a brotha out here I'm in the middle of a Palmar HF bitch fight
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21959 Posts
May 15 2017 13:31 GMT
#1565
On May 15 2017 22:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2017 22:28 Vivax wrote:
I'm sheeping rayn if he starts to play again but I'm not blindly lynching down his D1 lists.

Yeah why would you since you're on it and mafia.


Well you're wrong so there's that.
I can offer you to help you lynch my scummates then, but not me first.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21959 Posts
May 15 2017 13:41 GMT
#1571
I'm reading HF meta right now and I'm tempted to just put a post out there wanting you to tell me if you think he's town or mafia.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21959 Posts
May 15 2017 13:50 GMT
#1578
On May 15 2017 22:43 Holyflare wrote:
Like your argument is that i literally say grack is doing a scummy thing and then forget that read 3 posts later and not want to lynch him

Which is overwhelmingly my town meta of seeing something more egregious and voting the fuck out of it

Unless your argument is that I'm shit at mafia


You know, this post is only true if Grack is town.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21959 Posts
May 15 2017 14:04 GMT
#1593
Palmars post sexiness just went up by 100%
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21959 Posts
May 15 2017 14:08 GMT
#1595
On May 15 2017 23:05 Holyflare wrote:
Holy fuck read the game you pleb.

I'm calling you mafia BECAUSE of the lynches and your play this game. I've stated this numerous times. You haven't even read what I've said and this confirms it. I have reevaluated at every single stage of this game. Rayn because of day 1. After dropping fuba, evaluating state of the game and stances on lynches because of major afk on wagons.

Every single point.


I think he means this attitude. You could just reply, "aahh i dont know maybe I jumped the gun on that part, that part etc." but you avoid the introspection and jump over to accusation like here.

Try again maybe it will work next time.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21959 Posts
May 15 2017 14:09 GMT
#1597
I don't even know why you don't ever work from the assumption that he could simply be town for example when cooking up the answer.
His mind control trick where I am on a far away with a green checked Palmar is working pretty well for me.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21959 Posts
May 15 2017 14:13 GMT
#1601
On May 15 2017 23:12 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2017 23:09 Vivax wrote:
I don't even know why you don't ever work from the assumption that he could simply be town for example when cooking up the answer.
His mind control trick where I am on a far away with a green checked Palmar is working pretty well for me.


Because i pay attention to the game and see him afk all day posting nonsense to return at deadline and try to lynch me after being literally one of two people actually playing the game.

Just like you and him in haunted mansion 3

All over again.


But you are always playing the game also as mafia you easily rack up the largest filter and overshadow every other person that only plays it in chill mode.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21959 Posts
May 15 2017 14:25 GMT
#1610
On May 15 2017 23:20 Holyflare wrote:
Look I'm having a bad time. Can we just focus elsewhere for a bit? I'm willing to compromise on that at least.


Really? Those were two amazing pages I feel refreshed and kind of dazed.

I can see a bit of everyone's point of view. But more leaning towards a Palmar lynch after sucking everything in. Could just be the two heavyweights breathing down his neck and that I felt like he asked the impossible from me (convincing him that HF is town when I barely have enough confidence to tell).

We've got time so I think I'll postpone the decision and just keep sucking in a bit of the good parts of the game.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21959 Posts
May 15 2017 14:28 GMT
#1612
The problem for me from the start has been that you three just can't stop being completely paranoid about each other.

I think that if you ignored each others alignments and decided to just find a common ground to find at least two other mafia, it would be more productive. Cause all I've seen this game is you suggesting to lynch the other, not getting it, and everyone else just doing whatever the fuck they want cause they're already used to you bickering like old hags.

It's a bit late for that two lynches in but I think we could still salvage something by pretending that none of us 4 are mafia and just looking for two scummers in the rest.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21959 Posts
May 15 2017 14:31 GMT
#1613
Palmar you said there's 100% mafia in SL, LS, TW.

And please explain why you said skynxs defense was terrible
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21959 Posts
May 15 2017 15:25 GMT
#1620
I can not imagine in the slightest what's so hard in making people see the mafia in skynx. When I look at him I feel it's clear as day. I guess we need some old school case building in here.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21959 Posts
May 15 2017 15:50 GMT
#1624
I only have one lynch I have been asking for. Skynx. DF and fuba thought he was scum, too. Fuba at least for his "no shenanny pls" in that limitied time but still, only the purest people on skynx so far. Tried to get it into Palmar's and HFs head to no avail so far and don't even get me started about rayn who's scumreading me.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21959 Posts
May 15 2017 16:09 GMT
#1628
Right now I'm filtering SL cause that huge post above deserves some love.

His D1 LS "scumread" looks a bit odd to me. He wants to kill him cause he's not going to be townread by him.

On May 11 2017 18:48 sicklucker wrote:
well I dont think hes a very easy to read mafia so hes a great rng lynch, some solid day one stuff really that wont be the wrong play ever. Ls same thing but hes really awful here for his standards. Also he will never town read me for the entire game so thats another huge con to keep him around. for the sake of town you know


It's by far not damning, the intention just disappears afterwards. I dunno, D1 reads are naturally shallow. More worryin that all he talks about during this night are vig shots.

It's possible and something I want to believe that rayn, HF and Palmar are all town and skynx, Grack and one of LS and SL are mafia. PB is pretty much like conf town to me and Tumble looks pretty townie too and I don't want to check again to preserve my sanity.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21959 Posts
May 15 2017 16:34 GMT
#1630
Might also be a good time for timing analysis. The average scum posts in bursts at strategic times cause mostly they don't feel they have to say something unless for self preservation. Pretty much what gives me away every time.

I think skynx already falls into the pattern given the time between these two posts:

On May 13 2017 12:05 Skynx wrote:


On May 15 2017 01:09 Skynx wrote:
I kinda lost interest in this game but from the top of my head i think the team is Vivax,HF, fuba.

Grack
rayn
Palmar
LS
sl
PB
TW

Should be town

HF and Vivax are more dangerous so they should be lynched before fuba all day long. I cba with stating reasons sorry.


Post 1: End of night 1.
Post 2: Shortly before EoD D2. Obviously with the apologetic tone and a proper excuse for not posting for so long. Not a townie tone imho.

I think LS and Grack also have such timings. Grack has been posting very consistently during D1 racking up 6 pages of filter. Since N2 he produced two.

LS similarly, but too lazy to dig up the timestamps. He posted a blob of meta on himself when rayn called him scum in between the night and his decision to push for rayn. Looks sketchy overall, also while I was questioning him EoD one answer didn't even make sense and he seemed to have holes in his reads and was content with not having a complete picture.

SL idk, I actually felt like he was the towniest of the bunch. But I feel like I'm bad at reading him and reading his last mafia game didn't give me too many new insights.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21959 Posts
May 15 2017 16:46 GMT
#1632
On May 16 2017 01:37 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2017 01:34 Vivax wrote:
Might also be a good time for timing analysis. The average scum posts in bursts at strategic times cause mostly they don't feel they have to say something unless for self preservation. Pretty much what gives me away every time.

I think skynx already falls into the pattern given the time between these two posts:

On May 13 2017 12:05 Skynx wrote:


On May 15 2017 01:09 Skynx wrote:
I kinda lost interest in this game but from the top of my head i think the team is Vivax,HF, fuba.

Grack
rayn
Palmar
LS
sl
PB
TW

Should be town

HF and Vivax are more dangerous so they should be lynched before fuba all day long. I cba with stating reasons sorry.


Post 1: End of night 1.
Post 2: Shortly before EoD D2. Obviously with the apologetic tone and a proper excuse for not posting for so long. Not a townie tone imho.

I think LS and Grack also have such timings. Grack has been posting very consistently during D1 racking up 6 pages of filter. Since N2 he produced two.

LS similarly, but too lazy to dig up the timestamps. He posted a blob of meta on himself when rayn called him scum in between the night and his decision to push for rayn. Looks sketchy overall, also while I was questioning him EoD one answer didn't even make sense and he seemed to have holes in his reads and was content with not having a complete picture.

SL idk, I actually felt like he was the towniest of the bunch. But I feel like I'm bad at reading him and reading his last mafia game didn't give me too many new insights.

why don't you mention pb in this? are you just writing him off as town? I remember him being sparse but good when he posts


I said I townread him just in the post above. And when he posts he sounds very motivated and not half assed.

With LS you have the feeling that he doesn't have a complete picture.
With skynx you have the feeling that he is simply not having fun. But that's not how he looks as town.
And with Grack there's the impression that he also doesn't have much to care about. Prime example is him not reevaluating fuba yesterday, and his skynx vote looking completely meaningless in light that he's not doing anything about him when he's a topic and just lurking instead.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21959 Posts
May 15 2017 16:52 GMT
#1633
This is what DF said about skynx btw:

On May 12 2017 03:46 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2017 05:19 Skynx wrote:
I also agree that darthfoley's intro is bad from first impression but I'm gona have to go back on that one.


this is the only thing in your entire filter that indicates you think anyone is scum, but you give yourself an out by saying your opinion could change with a second reading.

vivax is right in the sense that I don't see how you've scum hunted at all this game. you claim that mafia is sitting back and relaxing, yet you come in the thread at a very opportune time to defend yourself and not actively participate in anything else that is going on in the thread.

3 out of 5 of your town reads have a possibility of being lynched (Grack, HF, rayn) yet you do nothing to steer the conversation away from them and onto anyone else.

You have a good chance of being mafia

Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21959 Posts
May 15 2017 17:08 GMT
#1637
LS can you translate this post of yours from yesterday?

On May 15 2017 05:38 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2017 05:34 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 15 2017 05:31 Vivax wrote:
On May 15 2017 05:24 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 15 2017 05:17 Vivax wrote:
On May 15 2017 04:48 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 15 2017 04:13 Holyflare wrote:
LS, who do you think are rayn's partners?

Idk honestly I just think he's mafia independent of anything.


I don't think I've ever seen anyone write this.

LS are you 100% sure that rayn is your only scumread?

Well I got HF as a scumlean but i don't think HF could be scum with rayn tbh.


And no one else? That doesn't even count cause you just said you aren't scumreading HF.

Really?

Just take a wild guess for two more pls.

I don't know >.< Maybe Palmar but only if Rayn flips town and on because on haven't done much.


who is your top town?


On May 15 2017 05:38 Vivax wrote:
And what is "and on because on haven't done much." I don't get it


Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21959 Posts
May 15 2017 18:25 GMT
#1639
On May 11 2017 04:57 Skynx wrote:
Who feels like talking to me? I feel left out.

Show nested quote +
On May 10 2017 16:19 Holyflare wrote:
On May 10 2017 15:24 Grackaroni wrote:
On May 10 2017 15:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What exactly are the quality posts you three made?

They looked kinda like this:

On May 10 2017 06:15 Holyflare wrote:
Secund.


On May 10 2017 07:11 Grackaroni wrote:
Who scum?


On May 10 2017 07:52 Tumblewood wrote:
I'm glad that's settled <3


Why have you taken fuba's secund post and changed his name to me? I never said this. You editing posts to try and look good?

HF why didn't you keep going on Grack after this? Same reasons Palmar said Gracks balance between troll and seriousness early on didn't make sense so this was a valid point.


On May 11 2017 05:00 Skynx wrote:
I'm curious because at that point Grack was for sure more mafia than rayn and I like rayns posts overall except for that list.


In the first quote you see skynx agreeing with both Palmar and HF about Gracks balance. So he puts the question out there why HF isn't pursuing him further.
The second quote I don't even know, he says that Grack is more mafia than rayn (??), then says he likes rayns post but thinks his list is shit (maybe cause Grack was green in it?). Overall pretty awkward and shallow.

On May 11 2017 05:05 Skynx wrote:
To be honest I don't even know why I'm chasing this cuz all parties mentioned here are town.

I'll reread others a tiny bit.


Here he realizes that his posts aren't achieving anything cause apparently everyone he's talked about is a townread of his, yet just above he said Grack appeared more scummy than rayn yet concludes they're both town (??) and that he's wasting time. He calls peoples arguments good but they don't influence his reads in the same way at all.

to be continued
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