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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22242 Posts
May 19 2017 14:09 GMT
#2243
The voices of rayn and DF haunt me from beyond the grave tbh
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22242 Posts
May 19 2017 14:50 GMT
#2248
On May 16 2017 06:56 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2017 06:54 Tumblewood wrote:
hold the fuck up

there is no cop
I'm parity cop. n1 checked pb, n2 checked palmar. they're different alignment so basically skynx is mafia with palmar and trying to bait out the blues before he dies


lol k now we just lynch you and get 2 free mafia then?


Can you explain how this post means we get two mafias?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22242 Posts
May 19 2017 14:58 GMT
#2253
K wasn't sure if you were saying TW + Palmar.

I'm still strongly in favour of lynching Palmar tho, even after his speech
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22242 Posts
May 19 2017 15:23 GMT
#2255
I don't see any convincing case out there. Just a TW filter stuffed with TMI implicating both of you, and two super weird NKs
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22242 Posts
May 19 2017 16:06 GMT
#2257
It looks like I will have to vote HF anyways cause we need at least 4 votes to secure a lynch against mafia and SL doesn't want to lynch you, ironically you think he can be mafia.

When US is online we will see what they say
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22242 Posts
May 19 2017 19:28 GMT
#2264
On May 20 2017 04:13 Prison Break wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2017 19:29 Palmar wrote:
On May 19 2017 19:26 Holyflare wrote:
5vs2 now

If we kill SL and he's town then 3vs2 and tomorrow is lylo with vivax or whatever dying.

If he's mafia then that's basically gg. I don't think the final mafia can hide for more cycles, it's getting pretty tight for them.

Here's what I'm thinking.

If I kill you today and you flip mafia, what happens tomorrow?

If the answer to that question is "we lynch SL", I'm perfectly okay with lynching him today, because:

a) you have a stupidly long filter (which you always do but still...)
b) I'm not 100% convinced you're scum
c) sicklucker is far less likely to say smart and useful things should he be the mislynch between you two
d) pb has been on his case since day 1, I just read pb's filter and I'm both impressed and kinda want to grant him his lynch

On May 15 2017 10:32 Prison Break wrote:
FUCK why did we lynch fuba, he was a HARD townread + I explained this, and he ALSO went after sicklurker d1

guess who's on the vote.... sicklurker....

reading through the pages now to see how this unfolded. holyflare and sicklurker escaped a lynch yet again....

is this seriously going to be one of those games where I catch scum d1 and then people refuse to lynch them and keep killing townies instead? goddamn this is frustrating...


I kinda want to help this guy.


What do you make of the people who don't want to lynch sicklurker, and want to lynch you despite you having the green check?

lightning strike and grack still have their vote on you. I think grack is scum as well as sicklurker. 2 scum should be between sicklurker, vivax and grack.


I don't think you know who you're dealing with when it comes to Palmar and Holyflare. Suffice to say I've been on this site for almost ten years, Palmar even longer. I advise you to sheep someone townie until you know the players a bit better, and fyi I'm currently the uncontested medic claim.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22242 Posts
May 19 2017 19:31 GMT
#2265
That's not an argument for saying I'm absolutely right and your opinion doesn't matter, but to say that you hold lower standards for scum players than you should. Palmar and HF can both absolutely be scum this game and for a change it would be good to know who you would pick if we hypothetically flipped SL and you were wrong on him.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22242 Posts
May 19 2017 20:07 GMT
#2268
On May 20 2017 05:02 Prison Break wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2017 04:28 Vivax wrote:
On May 20 2017 04:13 Prison Break wrote:
On May 19 2017 19:29 Palmar wrote:
On May 19 2017 19:26 Holyflare wrote:
5vs2 now

If we kill SL and he's town then 3vs2 and tomorrow is lylo with vivax or whatever dying.

If he's mafia then that's basically gg. I don't think the final mafia can hide for more cycles, it's getting pretty tight for them.

Here's what I'm thinking.

If I kill you today and you flip mafia, what happens tomorrow?

If the answer to that question is "we lynch SL", I'm perfectly okay with lynching him today, because:

a) you have a stupidly long filter (which you always do but still...)
b) I'm not 100% convinced you're scum
c) sicklucker is far less likely to say smart and useful things should he be the mislynch between you two
d) pb has been on his case since day 1, I just read pb's filter and I'm both impressed and kinda want to grant him his lynch

On May 15 2017 10:32 Prison Break wrote:
FUCK why did we lynch fuba, he was a HARD townread + I explained this, and he ALSO went after sicklurker d1

guess who's on the vote.... sicklurker....

reading through the pages now to see how this unfolded. holyflare and sicklurker escaped a lynch yet again....

is this seriously going to be one of those games where I catch scum d1 and then people refuse to lynch them and keep killing townies instead? goddamn this is frustrating...


I kinda want to help this guy.


What do you make of the people who don't want to lynch sicklurker, and want to lynch you despite you having the green check?

lightning strike and grack still have their vote on you. I think grack is scum as well as sicklurker. 2 scum should be between sicklurker, vivax and grack.


I don't think you know who you're dealing with when it comes to Palmar and Holyflare. Suffice to say I've been on this site for almost ten years, Palmar even longer. I advise you to sheep someone townie until you know the players a bit better, and fyi I'm currently the uncontested medic claim.


I saw 3 doc claims + a lot of "WIFOM/mind gaming scum"

You say you're the uncontested medic claim... but I've seen at least 2 other claims as well

If everyone will accept you as the doc and retract their claims I'll back off from you as you'd be confirmed town obviously

Thing about Palmar and HF seems to be that everyone seems to be tunneling them and I just feel like that's somehing mafia would do.... like leave them alive and let them fight each other because the moment 1 flips, the other will follow soon after

Between palmar and HF I'd kill HF first everytime simply because of the palmar green check. Yes, he could be framed, but odds of that are 33%, so in 67% of cases palmar is confirmed town, and in 33% he could literally be either town or scum, basically (aka same as if he weren't checked)

I also still don't understand that the cop died. Explain to me, if you were doc why didn't you heal the cop? and why did scum nightkill the cop?

Isn't it more likely to assume HF is doc. From your PoV if you're actually doc you know his claim is false, obviously, but from my PoV I can only base my opinion off of what you guys give me, and right now I've seen 3 docclaims and a lot of joking/mindgaming, to the point where I don't know which claim to take seriously anymore


I explained it already. I went for the gamble as we would actually have gotten another check off the night after if we lynched the roleblocker today. If I healed him tonight and saved him we would have a confirmed town around but still no cop.

On May 19 2017 05:56 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2017 05:55 Holyflare wrote:
but regardless you don't ever save not skynx there


Wrong, he gets rbed tonight, medic saved him, he dies tomorrow. Still no check. His role lost all value when he claimed.

Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22242 Posts
May 19 2017 20:11 GMT
#2273
On May 20 2017 05:06 Prison Break wrote:
Either way we shouldn't be lynching a doc, because we should put scum for the task, if they nightkill the doc they give up the fact they can hold onto their fake claim etc. which gives us more info

so with that said, and 3 doc claims, lynch should be between palmar and SL

but, say I'm wrong on SL, which I have no reason to believe, but say I'm wrong on him: then I still wonder if palmar is the correct lynch, because it's based entirely on the theory that he framed himself to begin with. It's a possibility, but I don't think it's a probability

also why is grack spawned town at all? depending on the scumteam, TW could've said whatever he wanted to, so why are people looking so much into this? I've seen scum leaving "hints" towards who are or aren't their partners in posts in case they flip, to lead town into more mislynches as well. I'm sceptic towards looking into TWs posts like that


I'm confident that TW was the type of mafia that hard townread towns and left everyone else including his buddies and his daily mislynch at something more obfuscate.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22242 Posts
May 19 2017 20:19 GMT
#2276
On May 20 2017 05:14 Prison Break wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2017 05:11 Vivax wrote:
On May 20 2017 05:06 Prison Break wrote:
Either way we shouldn't be lynching a doc, because we should put scum for the task, if they nightkill the doc they give up the fact they can hold onto their fake claim etc. which gives us more info

so with that said, and 3 doc claims, lynch should be between palmar and SL

but, say I'm wrong on SL, which I have no reason to believe, but say I'm wrong on him: then I still wonder if palmar is the correct lynch, because it's based entirely on the theory that he framed himself to begin with. It's a possibility, but I don't think it's a probability

also why is grack spawned town at all? depending on the scumteam, TW could've said whatever he wanted to, so why are people looking so much into this? I've seen scum leaving "hints" towards who are or aren't their partners in posts in case they flip, to lead town into more mislynches as well. I'm sceptic towards looking into TWs posts like that


I'm confident that TW was the type of mafia that hard townread towns and left everyone else including his buddies and his daily mislynch at something more obfuscate.


What do you base this one?

Link me to earlier mafia games where he did this?


On May 12 2017 05:01 Tumblewood wrote:
rayn, grack, ls, probably prison break are all town. Palmar Hf vivax sl not worth lynching d1 for various reasons. anyone else I would at least consider today. but fuba promised to do stuff and didn't so I am sticking on him unless you try to go lynch like grack


He's mentioning all players currently alive here, including yourself and a flipped rayn as town. The only ones he keeps at a waffly level are Palmar, HF, me and SL and to a small extent you. And those are exactly who I'm aiming to lynch this game. Always 1 scum in Palmar and HF and if we don't win, then we get SL.

On May 14 2017 08:45 Tumblewood wrote:
fuck, everything about the nk says palmar over hf but it's so bad that it has to be wifom. because you are not telling me that anyone other than hf/palmar chose the nightkill


Also this heavily implies one or both of Palmar and HF.

Sorry but if you don't see that TW had trouble not keeping his perfect information out of his posts, I don't know how to explain it better to you.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22242 Posts
May 19 2017 20:47 GMT
#2282
I'm ride or die HF and Palmar cause their read on each other is insincere and a bunch of other reasons I'm sure I already mentioned. If you want to get played, get played.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22242 Posts
May 19 2017 20:48 GMT
#2283
Not to mention HF forcing the doc to reveal by not unclaiming after the night.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22242 Posts
May 19 2017 20:57 GMT
#2287
That's the wrong question, what's the point of keeping the claim up if you don't get killed? You were literally asking for the real one to come out. You had your night to bait a kill, but then why keep it up once it didn't work? In your world then you try it another night, it's lylo, real medic has to cc you and since then you must hit mafia you're forced into a choosing between the fake medic and the real medic who didn't cc for one phase and had his claim lose credit.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22242 Posts
May 19 2017 20:59 GMT
#2288
PB still had no clue who the real one was with all the shenannies, imagine a lylo real medic claim after you've been carrying around the claim for two days without cc. Free scum win.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22242 Posts
May 19 2017 21:01 GMT
#2291
On May 20 2017 06:00 Holyflare wrote:
no

are you dumb?

IF I KEEP CLAIMING MEDIC THEY THINK IM MEDIC AND KILL ME

no more ? holyflare

confirmed town holyflare

many wins
many kills
much win


You haven't been killed, so nobody cares about your hypotheticals. You had to unclaim and the only reason you didn't is cause you're mafia
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22242 Posts
May 19 2017 21:02 GMT
#2292
YOu keep harping on that point from the pov that you're town "but if you play along I get killed" pretending to be 100% right and that's just bullshit
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22242 Posts
May 19 2017 21:03 GMT
#2294
On May 20 2017 06:03 Holyflare wrote:
if nobody ccs me then i fucking die are you actually stupid?


Did you invent a fucking time machine?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22242 Posts
May 19 2017 21:06 GMT
#2297
PB is HFs and Palmars puppet for the day but if we get SL to vote with me, LS and Grack we still lynch one of these two salty evildoers.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22242 Posts
May 20 2017 11:36 GMT
#2350
I'm slightly uncomfortable and have the feeling that Palmar weasled himself out of his lynch and was more than happy voting HF after pretending to be hesitant on him, but post game I can just blame HF for being an obstacle to Palmars lynch, if he turns out to be town by some miracle.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22242 Posts
May 20 2017 11:42 GMT
#2351
Killing a rayn that doesn't play the game N2 smells a lot like red Palmar, still.

Best case scenario is that HF flips scum, then we lynch Palmar who also flips scum.
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