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+ Show Spoiler + Praying for TPR+ Show Spoiler + Or scum so that I get steamrolled  | ||
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For those who don't get in, Infatuation Mafia is still looking for players! If this game somehow starts today/ tomorrow then I'll /confirm in advance. Deadline is early in the morning my time. | ||
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On April 06 2017 19:13 raynpelikoneet wrote: Because it doesn't make any fucking sense. Did you miss the memo about how ALL PLAYERS can do things that 'don't make any fucking sense'? Occam's Razor points to SL not reading the OP properly. This means nothing and going "it doesn't make sense -> mafia" is a simplistic blanket argument that doesn't show any critical thinking. | ||
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On April 06 2017 19:23 raynpelikoneet wrote: no, he literally said he read the op and then did not make sense again. didn't you get the memo in my post? "reading the OP properly" Again, how is this remotely important? I don't care if it's illogical - how does it actually further mafia goals? Going "it doesn't make sense" like a kid who learned a new word =/= explaining your thought process, if there is one. | ||
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On April 06 2017 19:28 raynpelikoneet wrote: Learn to think. I don't give any fucks if you can't understand simple things. "I have no actual explanation for why SL being a dipshit is AI so I will just insult your intelligence." Clearly you do give a shit, otherwise you would have just told me to fuck off from the get-go, so kindly explain how "not making sense" means ANYTHING. | ||
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On April 06 2017 19:44 beentheredonethat wrote: Koshi please don't say such things they feel scummy How is that post scummy? | ||
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Possible but it's not for that post, I don't think. He did the same thing in HR iirc. | ||
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On April 06 2017 19:42 beentheredonethat wrote: I think sicklucker prefers town over scum but I have a bad memory. I know that you prefer town over scum. Also I am curious. What is the point of saying this after SL said that he doesn't 'really prefer' a particular alignment? Just a weird way to enter the thread. | ||
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On April 06 2017 19:53 beentheredonethat wrote: It's worth a push, I think. He's around since a few hours so at least he's checking in regularly, yet he's not doing anything. Which might be perfectly fine because work day, but then again I'm not supposed to find excuses for Koshi being lazy, am I. If you think that, where is your vote...? | ||
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>thinks Koshi is worth a push >does nothing to make this happen Strong. | ||
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On April 06 2017 20:03 beentheredonethat wrote: Do you think it's worth pushing, Calix? No, I don't. But that's not the point. You clearly think it is. Why does it matter what I think then? | ||
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On April 06 2017 20:10 beentheredonethat wrote: Can you not pretend I "clearly" think it is and consider the sentence that comes right after "I think it's worth a push"? Can you also think about why I put "I think" in front of "It's worth a push"? Normally, that means that a person wants to imply a certain level of uncertainty about something. We're both town, right? So we want to help each other out by judging each other's thoughts. So you can either pick up what I say and drop your own opinion, or you can go after me because I do not place a vote on the very first maybe pushable thing that I find when the game is three pages and some hours in. Yes, and if you're uncertain on something then you generally question/ pressure that person so they clarify the issue. I am wondering why you wouldn't want to push Koshi when your posts were going in that direction and I'm still not sure what the hesitation is for. I am not 'going after you' either, actually. I generally find you scummy so I am trying not to jump down your throat here, lol. | ||
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On April 06 2017 20:26 beentheredonethat wrote: And how am I supposed to question Koshi on his, like, three posts? I've pointed out what I didn't like, and depending on his reaction to that, I'll continue to go after him or not. Why are you scumreading me for going after something I find scummy? Pretty simple. You just ask basic shit like "why did you decide to announce this playstyle after you got your role?" (as an example) and go from there. Where did I say I was scum-reading you? I said "I generally find you scummy" which is not the same thing. And the entire conversation we're having is that you AREN'T going after something you find scummy O_o You're not making much sense. | ||
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On April 06 2017 20:33 beentheredonethat wrote: Wait, so "It's worth a push" does mean "I will vote Koshi now" in your understanding, but you ask me to differentiate between "I find you scummy" and "I am scum-reading you"? The conversation we have is about what it is because you chose to pressure me about why I am not voting Koshi instead of simply reviewing what I said and commenting on it. You're, again, constructing shit to push me. "I find you GENERALLY scummy" is what I said. Found the problem. You're misinterpreting that as me specifically finding you scummy in this game when I was trying to say that I find your playstyle scummy. I hope that clears things up. | ||
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On April 06 2017 20:34 beentheredonethat wrote: By the way, questions like * is that worth a push and * why aren't you voting me still stand. Can you stop circumventing them? Your questions are dumb since I already answered them in my earlier posts...including ones that you RESPONDED TO. Try reading my posts -.- | ||
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Has that cleared everything up? I don't fancy a repeat of disfo/ Xatalos/ Damdred/ Calix where a misunderstanding gets dragged out to epic proportions, lol. | ||
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On April 06 2017 20:51 Koshi wrote: ##vote Calix I don't understand her. Then ask away. | ||
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lmao | ||
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Since we established where the problem was, dumb  | ||
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On April 06 2017 21:15 beentheredonethat wrote: But what changed your stance on me then? I mean you said you find me scummy and I thought it's because I say "pushworthy" while not voting Koshi. What made you dropping that? I thought we already covered that I was talking about your play-style. You said "I didn't want to vote on something push-worthy 3 hours into the game" and that you weren't sure how to question his initial posts so I did not see the point of questioning you further when that would distract you from scum-hunting Koshi. | ||
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On April 06 2017 21:22 Koshi wrote: I did. But I found it a very weak answer. But it is fine. You are more likely town over Calix. When you said you would only post like, 20-30 times today, did you also decide to make them 20-30 posts of one-liners with no explanations? | ||
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On April 06 2017 21:45 Koshi wrote: Am I forced to make 20 posts when I say I am going to make 20 posts? Your point being? When you say "I will post X times", I'm going to assume that you'll be posting X fucking times. | ||
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On April 06 2017 22:02 Koshi wrote: I might be the smartest kid in school, but I am no teachers pet. Boring. | ||
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On April 06 2017 22:15 Koshi wrote: What a stupid statement to make. "better". Is it like that it is better to have 1.000.000.001€ than to have 1.000.000.000€? If there is somebody who sees what I see. That person is going to be more likely town over mafia. Now sadly I already said too much and mafia might go look to replicate what I saw, but still, the original point stands. And it is a very good way to townread somebody. Go away Calix. Your play is not good in this conversation. Not in your conversation with btdt. Not in your conversation with rayn. What are you doing? Why don't you fuck off? I'm playing the game and you're whining about theory. Literally no mafia plays like that. If you have a point then say it instead of waiting for someone else to do it. You do not have to 'hide' your reasoning for mind-melds to happen. If you don't want to say the point then stop clogging up the chat. Pick one and stick with it. | ||
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Hm? Speaking of Koshi, what did you make of his latest posts? | ||
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On April 06 2017 22:37 Shapelog wrote: Alright, here where I stand with the conversation between Calix and BTDT. For Calix side, the following makes me think they are more town then scum when I look at this part. I personally think that if Calix was scum, they would of not posted this. It would make sense for Scum!Calix to keep on BTDT as to have a excuse to post, and also because of the what apparently happen with a misunderstanding last game. I do acknowledge that Calix could be backing off here as scum due to a lack of footing on BTDT, but I expect that they would keep on for later credit of being active D1 or even for being on BTDT/Ryan later on if either got into negative light. Moreover, BTDT was more in the mood of keeping the fight going on. Which would allow scum!calix to hide in what would prob. develop into a shitfight with BTDT for getting pass d1. However, I personally do not see anything I really like in calix's points. Some I dont really understand the way calix talks (I.E. calix posts kinda feel a bit circlejerking? If that makes sense, prob doesnt). Also, I do feel as there should be more from calix if they are town and though something about BTDT is scummy. I don't get the stance of "waiting to question you" at all either. But doesn't feel like calix is at the stage of mafia discrediting that is usually happening at this stage of the game hmmm. I will say that I would rank calix a bit above null into the town lean range b/c while I do not understand calix overall stance, I think the clear out looks more town then mafia in my eyes. Flipsid3, I think BTDT also displayed similar actions regarding koshi's meta point and not voting calix. His posts dont feel like he is being pressured in my eyes, and seems more of him trying to figure out calixs point while being mad at calix logic. One could state that he is being pretty agressive in a way, but I just chop it up to him as taking a stance at figuring out the game. Don't really have a issue with him right now. More towny then Calix and working his way up to a town lean What don't you like about the way I talk? lol I felt like I was being clear when I was talking to BTDT about his actions re: Koshi and then his interpretation of my posts. On BTDT, I don't follow how him being aggressive is scummy (as you seem to view it). And some of your points are vague (is the second sentence of BTDT's point -> town-lean? for one) but I think the analysis is good otherwise. | ||
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On April 06 2017 23:16 Koshi wrote: The post you use to call Calix town, I disagree, for me that post came too much out of the blue and I do not understand why she wanted to stop the shitfight there. I like btdt more atm because he kept going after Calix called for a truce. I also dont see what Calix has achieved so far. 3 bad conversations without direction. Too much sucking up to rayn. Too agressive in her tone. I think she is mafia. Being aggressive isn't AI. Because it was clear that there was a misunderstanding in the chat and that continuing the fight with that in play = unproductive. "too much sucking up to rayn" What game are you even playing? To sum up your 'points', ending a conversation, a NAI point and a misrepresentation of my interactions with rayn. Legit. | ||
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On April 06 2017 23:21 Koshi wrote: Sucking up to rayn was obvious If repeatedly asking "how is SL not making sense mafia?" and criticising Rayn for that read is 'sucking up' then calling your argument retarded is a compliment of the ages. Pls explain. | ||
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That's not 'sucking up' in any world. | ||
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On April 06 2017 23:26 Koshi wrote: I like to think town!Calix explains it once and then calls rayn out for the moron he is. Or calls him mafia. You did something in between to stay on his good side. Well not even in between. Something different. Oh goodie, you play a town game with me once and now you assume you know everything about my town play. The worst kind of player. I wanted his thought process for why SL's point bullshit = mafia-indicative because as it stands, his current jump from "doesn't make sense" to "it's mafia" isn't transparent. | ||
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Being an obnoxious dick about meta isn't limited to townies, my dude. | ||
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On April 06 2017 23:40 Shapelog wrote: Did I host that game? All I remember is that 1 OMGUS game which I was Peewee Herman and disappeared for like 2 phases and lynched kush so that mafia would win. No, you were mafia. HM 3, I think. | ||
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Tah dah, countered your 'point' in ten seconds. Try again. | ||
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On April 06 2017 23:46 Shapelog wrote: I kinda want to scumread you b/c of the cockiness of this so it will go down  .That's just my charm and wit But for real, none of these points are incisive or have merit. What do you think though? You're around while Koshi and I argue but haven't said anything on him afaik. | ||
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I am still unable to see how he read my posts and concluded "she's trying to keep on rayn's good side". But then again, going about his read in this manner draws a lot of attention to Koshi. And he is attacking me. Unless he saw his team-mates last game and decided that copying their strategy is an A* move, I'm not convinced that scum!Koshi would do that off the bat. Meh, I'll have to reread later in case I'm succumbing to OMGUS with that case. | ||
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