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On April 07 2017 01:09 Shapelog wrote:+ Show Spoiler +How does the post make him scummy (cba to reopen filter from calix On April 06 2017 19:51 Calix wrote:
So you're arguing that Koshi announcing his play-style this game is indicative of a lazy mafia?
Possible but it's not for that post, I don't think. He did the same thing in HR iirc. On April 06 2017 19:58 Calix wrote:Your opening post stood out to me because I looked at it and I could not tell what you were trying to do/ say since it didn't say anything. A post for the sake of making a post is probably a better way to put it. Show nested quote +On April 06 2017 19:53 beentheredonethat wrote:On April 06 2017 19:51 Calix wrote:
So you're arguing that Koshi announcing his play-style this game is indicative of a lazy mafia?
Possible but it's not for that post, I don't think. He did the same thing in HR iirc. It's worth a push, I think. He's around since a few hours so at least he's checking in regularly, yet he's not doing anything. Which might be perfectly fine because work day, but then again I'm not supposed to find excuses for Koshi being lazy, am I. If you think that, where is your vote...? On April 06 2017 19:58 Calix wrote:Your opening post stood out to me because I looked at it and I could not tell what you were trying to do/ say since it didn't say anything. A post for the sake of making a post is probably a better way to put it. Show nested quote +On April 06 2017 19:53 beentheredonethat wrote:On April 06 2017 19:51 Calix wrote:
So you're arguing that Koshi announcing his play-style this game is indicative of a lazy mafia?
Possible but it's not for that post, I don't think. He did the same thing in HR iirc. It's worth a push, I think. He's around since a few hours so at least he's checking in regularly, yet he's not doing anything. Which might be perfectly fine because work day, but then again I'm not supposed to find excuses for Koshi being lazy, am I. If you think that, where is your vote...? Versus: Show nested quote +On April 07 2017 00:03 Tumblewood wrote:On April 06 2017 19:47 beentheredonethat wrote:On April 06 2017 19:45 Calix wrote:On April 06 2017 19:44 beentheredonethat wrote:On April 06 2017 16:25 Koshi wrote:
Hey rayn, if you don't mind, I am going for a -20 posts D1, 2-3 posts N1, 5 posts D2 and 2 posts N2. Well, unless mafia shoots me like they did the last 5 nights I was alive.
I will read the first 36 hours of the game and give my opinion. With some luck it is different than the last time. Koshi please don't say such things they feel scummy How is that post scummy? "I will do [whatever]" is always scummy. Don't promise, do. this is btw one of the worst entrance sequences I have ever seen - btdt calls koshi scum for making a promise - (even though koshi basically promised to be lazy and he does that every game) - btdt says it's worth a push (1 step removed from a promise) - btdt does not push koshi but I will give him the benefit of the doubt on being scum for now If anything, Tumble's post is a TLDR of Calix's train of thought/posts/points that were spread out during that time. Which if he was mafia, could easily be faked if need be.
well yeah because calix was making good points and it seemed like they went over everyone's heads
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On April 07 2017 00:55 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2017 00:53 beentheredonethat wrote:On April 07 2017 00:52 Koshi wrote:
Tumble is obvious town.
Tumble pls explain your mindmeld pls. asdjalkdjlkjasökldjasldkj really I was already in a tumble and calix are scum but then you do that 100% safe townread for which exact reasons? His post on your entrance
I think his post on my entrance adds nothing new to the thread, 1:1 repeats what Calix said and feels useless.
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On April 07 2017 01:09 Shapelog wrote:+ Show Spoiler +How does the post make him scummy (cba to reopen filter from calix On April 06 2017 19:51 Calix wrote:
So you're arguing that Koshi announcing his play-style this game is indicative of a lazy mafia?
Possible but it's not for that post, I don't think. He did the same thing in HR iirc. On April 06 2017 19:58 Calix wrote:Your opening post stood out to me because I looked at it and I could not tell what you were trying to do/ say since it didn't say anything. A post for the sake of making a post is probably a better way to put it. Show nested quote +On April 06 2017 19:53 beentheredonethat wrote:On April 06 2017 19:51 Calix wrote:
So you're arguing that Koshi announcing his play-style this game is indicative of a lazy mafia?
Possible but it's not for that post, I don't think. He did the same thing in HR iirc. It's worth a push, I think. He's around since a few hours so at least he's checking in regularly, yet he's not doing anything. Which might be perfectly fine because work day, but then again I'm not supposed to find excuses for Koshi being lazy, am I. If you think that, where is your vote...? On April 06 2017 19:58 Calix wrote:Your opening post stood out to me because I looked at it and I could not tell what you were trying to do/ say since it didn't say anything. A post for the sake of making a post is probably a better way to put it. Show nested quote +On April 06 2017 19:53 beentheredonethat wrote:On April 06 2017 19:51 Calix wrote:
So you're arguing that Koshi announcing his play-style this game is indicative of a lazy mafia?
Possible but it's not for that post, I don't think. He did the same thing in HR iirc. It's worth a push, I think. He's around since a few hours so at least he's checking in regularly, yet he's not doing anything. Which might be perfectly fine because work day, but then again I'm not supposed to find excuses for Koshi being lazy, am I. If you think that, where is your vote...? Versus: Show nested quote +On April 07 2017 00:03 Tumblewood wrote:On April 06 2017 19:47 beentheredonethat wrote:On April 06 2017 19:45 Calix wrote:On April 06 2017 19:44 beentheredonethat wrote:On April 06 2017 16:25 Koshi wrote:
Hey rayn, if you don't mind, I am going for a -20 posts D1, 2-3 posts N1, 5 posts D2 and 2 posts N2. Well, unless mafia shoots me like they did the last 5 nights I was alive.
I will read the first 36 hours of the game and give my opinion. With some luck it is different than the last time. Koshi please don't say such things they feel scummy How is that post scummy? "I will do [whatever]" is always scummy. Don't promise, do. this is btw one of the worst entrance sequences I have ever seen - btdt calls koshi scum for making a promise - (even though koshi basically promised to be lazy and he does that every game) - btdt says it's worth a push (1 step removed from a promise) - btdt does not push koshi but I will give him the benefit of the doubt on being scum for now If anything, Tumble's post is a TLDR of Calix's train of thought/posts/points that were spread out during that time. Which if he was mafia, could easily be faked if need be.
this. so why townread him for this?
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nah there's no way Tumbleweed is locked town here. He chose the easiest comment that was there to make and didn't add anything new.
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Actually reading Tumblewood's filter: there is NO (absolutely no!) contribution to the game. Just banter. Besides that easily to be made up post.
##vote Tumblewood do something
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Tbh when I saw it I didnt know Calix approx. said the same things. I am looking at intent more currently.
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Oh shit,
I forgot classes were cancelled today >_> I been here since 8:30 am.
At least I worked on my crap while I was waiting.
well yeah because calix was making good points and it seemed like they went over everyone's heads
I was just pointing out how it didnt make sense in my mind since you both said similar things and koshi read you as town and such.
Actually reading Tumblewood's filter: there is NO (absolutely no!) contribution to the game. Just banter. Besides that easily to be made up post.
##vote Tumblewood do something
To be devils advocate here,
Neither has Darth or Rels.
I admit, he is here (or hereish) and should be posting more stuff that is interesting. But also, Its not even halfway through the first day cycle. Hence why I haven't gimped him for it.
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On April 06 2017 20:30 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2017 20:26 beentheredonethat wrote:On April 06 2017 20:18 Calix wrote:On April 06 2017 20:10 beentheredonethat wrote:On April 06 2017 20:06 Calix wrote:On April 06 2017 20:03 beentheredonethat wrote:
Do you think it's worth pushing, Calix? No, I don't. But that's not the point. You clearly think it is. Why does it matter what I think then? Can you not pretend I "clearly" think it is and consider the sentence that comes right after "I think it's worth a push"? Can you also think about why I put "I think" in front of "It's worth a push"? Normally, that means that a person wants to imply a certain level of uncertainty about something. We're both town, right? So we want to help each other out by judging each other's thoughts. So you can either pick up what I say and drop your own opinion, or you can go after me because I do not place a vote on the very first maybe pushable thing that I find when the game is three pages and some hours in. Yes, and if you're uncertain on something then you generally question/ pressure that person so they clarify the issue. I am wondering why you wouldn't want to push Koshi when your posts were going in that direction and I'm still not sure what the hesitation is for. I am not 'going after you' either, actually. I generally find you scummy so I am trying not to jump down your throat here, lol. And how am I supposed to question Koshi on his, like, three posts? I've pointed out what I didn't like, and depending on his reaction to that, I'll continue to go after him or not. Why are you scumreading me for going after something I find scummy? Pretty simple. You just ask basic shit like "why did you decide to announce this playstyle after you got your role?" (as an example) and go from there. Where did I say I was scum-reading you? I said "I generally find you scummy" which is not the same thing. And the entire conversation we're having is that you AREN'T going after something you find scummy O_o You're not making much sense.
I find this sentence comical. Can anyone who isn't Calix explain wtf the difference is between these two sentences, because to me it just looks like useless hedging that sounds scum motivated. The splitting of semantic hairs is not something I really associate with town!calix.
I think btdt is more town from the argument because he seemed more logical/focused/level headed.
Koshi's intro reminds me a bit of his standoffish play style he used last game as scum, and I like btdt's questioning of him so far
My time is a bit limited but I'm catching up ASAP
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well "doing something" at the current state of affairs would mean just to interact with people and drop opinions, right? darth and rels - yeah. We're not in policy range of things yet so... yeah.
Not sure how to proceed from here on. I am not townreading Koshi yet it's not the same as the last game we played, like there it was super obvious to me that he was scum. And I was right. Might've been just luck but it really felt like scum!Koshi. This time around, I'm not sure.
I'd just wish he'd put more effort into explaining stuff.
Calix -- hmm
the whole Calix Koshi Me thing and then with tumbleweed reiterating on it and shape commenting on it - it's of course easy to form a town circle of five but I don't dare to do that. oh and still, can someone explain what this "sucking up to rayn" thing means
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Also don't like Shapelog because i feel like he's been referreeing the thread so far and has been rather hesistant to step into actually giving any reads of his own. Everything just reads like a defense of people... countering other peolples point... on other people
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On April 07 2017 02:09 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2017 20:30 Calix wrote:On April 06 2017 20:26 beentheredonethat wrote:On April 06 2017 20:18 Calix wrote:On April 06 2017 20:10 beentheredonethat wrote:On April 06 2017 20:06 Calix wrote:On April 06 2017 20:03 beentheredonethat wrote:
Do you think it's worth pushing, Calix? No, I don't. But that's not the point. You clearly think it is. Why does it matter what I think then? Can you not pretend I "clearly" think it is and consider the sentence that comes right after "I think it's worth a push"? Can you also think about why I put "I think" in front of "It's worth a push"? Normally, that means that a person wants to imply a certain level of uncertainty about something. We're both town, right? So we want to help each other out by judging each other's thoughts. So you can either pick up what I say and drop your own opinion, or you can go after me because I do not place a vote on the very first maybe pushable thing that I find when the game is three pages and some hours in. Yes, and if you're uncertain on something then you generally question/ pressure that person so they clarify the issue. I am wondering why you wouldn't want to push Koshi when your posts were going in that direction and I'm still not sure what the hesitation is for. I am not 'going after you' either, actually. I generally find you scummy so I am trying not to jump down your throat here, lol. And how am I supposed to question Koshi on his, like, three posts? I've pointed out what I didn't like, and depending on his reaction to that, I'll continue to go after him or not. Why are you scumreading me for going after something I find scummy? Pretty simple. You just ask basic shit like "why did you decide to announce this playstyle after you got your role?" (as an example) and go from there. Where did I say I was scum-reading you? I said "I generally find you scummy" which is not the same thing. And the entire conversation we're having is that you AREN'T going after something you find scummy O_o You're not making much sense. I find this sentence comical. Can anyone who isn't Calix explain wtf the difference is between these two sentences, because to me it just looks like useless hedging that sounds scum motivated. The splitting of semantic hairs is not something I really associate with town!calix.I think btdt is more town from the argument because he seemed more logical/focused/level headed. Koshi's intro reminds me a bit of his standoffish play style he used last game as scum, and I like btdt's questioning of him so far My time is a bit limited but I'm catching up ASAP
Thank you so much for this
I wondered about this but I forgot completely, I even have it in my filter somewhere
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Shapelog is question master without any reads/conclusions/thoughts of his own
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On April 06 2017 20:33 beentheredonethat wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2017 20:30 Calix wrote:On April 06 2017 20:26 beentheredonethat wrote:On April 06 2017 20:18 Calix wrote:On April 06 2017 20:10 beentheredonethat wrote:On April 06 2017 20:06 Calix wrote:On April 06 2017 20:03 beentheredonethat wrote:
Do you think it's worth pushing, Calix? No, I don't. But that's not the point. You clearly think it is. Why does it matter what I think then? Can you not pretend I "clearly" think it is and consider the sentence that comes right after "I think it's worth a push"? Can you also think about why I put "I think" in front of "It's worth a push"? Normally, that means that a person wants to imply a certain level of uncertainty about something. We're both town, right? So we want to help each other out by judging each other's thoughts. So you can either pick up what I say and drop your own opinion, or you can go after me because I do not place a vote on the very first maybe pushable thing that I find when the game is three pages and some hours in. Yes, and if you're uncertain on something then you generally question/ pressure that person so they clarify the issue. I am wondering why you wouldn't want to push Koshi when your posts were going in that direction and I'm still not sure what the hesitation is for. I am not 'going after you' either, actually. I generally find you scummy so I am trying not to jump down your throat here, lol. And how am I supposed to question Koshi on his, like, three posts? I've pointed out what I didn't like, and depending on his reaction to that, I'll continue to go after him or not. Why are you scumreading me for going after something I find scummy? Pretty simple. You just ask basic shit like "why did you decide to announce this playstyle after you got your role?" (as an example) and go from there. Where did I say I was scum-reading you? I said "I generally find you scummy" which is not the same thing. And the entire conversation we're having is that you AREN'T going after something you find scummy O_o You're not making much sense. Wait, so "It's worth a push" does mean "I will vote Koshi now" in your understanding, but you ask me to differentiate between "I find you scummy" and "I am scum-reading you"?
The conversation we have is about what it is because you chose to pressure me about why I am not voting Koshi instead of simply reviewing what I said and commenting on it. You're, again, constructing shit to push me.
there
yeah don't get that
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On April 07 2017 02:16 darthfoley wrote:
Shapelog is question master without any reads/conclusions/thoughts of his own
That's wrong, he has a clear opinion on calix/me at least, both townish
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On April 07 2017 02:09 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2017 20:30 Calix wrote:On April 06 2017 20:26 beentheredonethat wrote:On April 06 2017 20:18 Calix wrote:On April 06 2017 20:10 beentheredonethat wrote:On April 06 2017 20:06 Calix wrote:On April 06 2017 20:03 beentheredonethat wrote:
Do you think it's worth pushing, Calix? No, I don't. But that's not the point. You clearly think it is. Why does it matter what I think then? Can you not pretend I "clearly" think it is and consider the sentence that comes right after "I think it's worth a push"? Can you also think about why I put "I think" in front of "It's worth a push"? Normally, that means that a person wants to imply a certain level of uncertainty about something. We're both town, right? So we want to help each other out by judging each other's thoughts. So you can either pick up what I say and drop your own opinion, or you can go after me because I do not place a vote on the very first maybe pushable thing that I find when the game is three pages and some hours in. Yes, and if you're uncertain on something then you generally question/ pressure that person so they clarify the issue. I am wondering why you wouldn't want to push Koshi when your posts were going in that direction and I'm still not sure what the hesitation is for. I am not 'going after you' either, actually. I generally find you scummy so I am trying not to jump down your throat here, lol. And how am I supposed to question Koshi on his, like, three posts? I've pointed out what I didn't like, and depending on his reaction to that, I'll continue to go after him or not. Why are you scumreading me for going after something I find scummy? Pretty simple. You just ask basic shit like "why did you decide to announce this playstyle after you got your role?" (as an example) and go from there. Where did I say I was scum-reading you? I said "I generally find you scummy" which is not the same thing. And the entire conversation we're having is that you AREN'T going after something you find scummy O_o You're not making much sense. I find this sentence comical. Can anyone who isn't Calix explain wtf the difference is between these two sentences, because to me it just looks like useless hedging that sounds scum motivated. The splitting of semantic hairs is not something I really associate with town!calix. I think btdt is more town from the argument because he seemed more logical/focused/level headed. Koshi's intro reminds me a bit of his standoffish play style he used last game as scum, and I like btdt's questioning of him so far My time is a bit limited but I'm catching up ASAP
I read it as
Generally I find you scummy"
In games I play with you, I find your playstyle to be scummy or I have a history of calling you scum.
I dunno how true that is for calix/BTDT.
Agree with BTDT point.
Koshi is a bit hit or miss rn. I honestly dont like him, and have a hard time following his logic. His points (to me) make no logical sense or lack the details to really fully understand. Plus the confirm tumble thing is still odd in my eyes. Plus the behavior changes.
On April 07 2017 02:12 beentheredonethat wrote:
well "doing something" at the current state of affairs would mean just to interact with people and drop opinions, right? darth and rels - yeah. We're not in policy range of things yet so... yeah.
[...]
Calix -- hmm
the whole Calix Koshi Me thing and then with tumbleweed reiterating on it and shape commenting on it - it's of course easy to form a town circle of five but I don't dare to do that. oh and still, can someone explain what this "sucking up to rayn" thing means
Touchee
Koshi said that Calix was sucking up to ryan due to what she said to ryan about SL.
On April 07 2017 02:14 darthfoley wrote:
Also don't like Shapelog because i feel like he's been referreeing the thread so far and has been rather hesistant to step into actually giving any reads of his own. Everything just reads like a defense of people... countering other peolples point... on other people
Um I have given reads out?
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The thing is I still don't see how probing rayn is "sucking up"
I can understand the point if Koshi was talking about it from the "faking activity" point he brought up later, but the progression from "she was sucking up" to "she was faking activity" doesn't really make sense to me
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Ooohhh if Calix meant generally as in she finds btdt scummy in many games then I feel like an idiot. I thought she was just talking about this game "generally"
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On April 07 2017 02:16 darthfoley wrote:
Shapelog is question master without any reads/conclusions/thoughts of his own
I can troll if you rather have that 
Oh boy I do miss it 
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Man,
I fucking remember my first game as mafia.
Wrote like 25% of the game filter through shitposts and other stuff.
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On April 07 2017 02:22 Shapelog wrote:
Man,
I fucking remember my first game as mafia.
Wrote like 25% of the game filter through shitposts and other stuff.
Yea it was a newbie game with me iirc. Still salty about that one
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EPT
