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Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
April 06 2017 14:41 GMT
#221
On April 06 2017 23:40 Shapelog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2017 23:36 Calix wrote:
I'm pretty sure my first town-game on this site was me yelling obtusely at everyone for not having me as the most obvious town ever despite doing next-to-no "scum-hunting" until I died P:

Did I host that game?

All I remember is that 1 OMGUS game which I was Peewee Herman and disappeared for like 2 phases and lynched kush so that mafia would win.


No, you were mafia. HM 3, I think.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 06 2017 14:41 GMT
#222
My point has nothing to do with meta.
I had a good night of sleep.
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5188 Posts
April 06 2017 14:44 GMT
#223
On April 06 2017 23:41 Koshi wrote:
My point has nothing to do with meta.

Ok,

I still dont see it. If they wanted to suck up, while not agree with ryan? And if the answer to that is because perhaps scum!Calix suspected that ryan would be scumread or sus. for that, why not go more on it?
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
April 06 2017 14:44 GMT
#224
Then your point is? Because saying I was buddying Rayn is clearly wrong and your reasoning of "I'd EXPECT Calix to do XYZ as town" isn't a point. There's no One True Way for townies to play.

Tah dah, countered your 'point' in ten seconds. Try again.
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5188 Posts
April 06 2017 14:46 GMT
#225
Tah dah, countered your 'point' in ten seconds. Try again.


I kinda want to scumread you b/c of the cockiness of this so it will go down .
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
April 06 2017 14:48 GMT
#226
On April 06 2017 23:46 Shapelog wrote:
Show nested quote +
Tah dah, countered your 'point' in ten seconds. Try again.


I kinda want to scumread you b/c of the cockiness of this so it will go down .


That's just my charm and wit

But for real, none of these points are incisive or have merit.

What do you think though? You're around while Koshi and I argue but haven't said anything on him afaik.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 06 2017 14:49 GMT
#227
On April 06 2017 23:44 Shapelog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2017 23:41 Koshi wrote:
My point has nothing to do with meta.

Ok,

I still dont see it. If they wanted to suck up, while not agree with ryan? And if the answer to that is because perhaps scum!Calix suspected that ryan would be scumread or sus. for that, why not go more on it?

...
...
...
Shape pls
...
...
She knows what rayn is saying is dumb shit that doesnt make sl mafia.

Now read her posts knowing that she knows that.

If you dont get it. It's ok. But I cant explain it better.
I had a good night of sleep.
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5188 Posts
April 06 2017 14:53 GMT
#228
On April 06 2017 23:48 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2017 23:46 Shapelog wrote:
Tah dah, countered your 'point' in ten seconds. Try again.


I kinda want to scumread you b/c of the cockiness of this so it will go down .


That's just my charm and wit

But for real, none of these points are incisive or have merit.

What do you think though? You're around while Koshi and I argue but haven't said anything on him afaik.

Im trying to figure out his point lol. Hence why I haven't said much on him, plus I want to see where this goes.

She knows what rayn is saying is dumb shit that doesnt make sl mafia.

We are talking about her sucking up to ryan right?
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5188 Posts
April 06 2017 14:54 GMT
#229
I will say I've read his posts and gotten a idea about him, but
this is exciting
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
April 06 2017 14:54 GMT
#230
I feel like a broken clock but I've got a nice mindmeld/townread on calix
good times for all
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
April 06 2017 14:57 GMT
#231
So trying to get this straight:

Koshi says, Calix is scum because
* Calix has engaged in a bad conversation with me without direction
* in a bad conversation with ?? without direction
* in a bad conversation with ?? without direction

+ Show Spoiler [post in question] +
On April 06 2017 23:16 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2017 22:46 Shapelog wrote:
Also Koshi,

On April 06 2017 21:54 Koshi wrote:
I disagree. btdt is town. You are more likely not.
Progress was made.


What did you see in the vs. other than not understanding her?

The post you use to call Calix town, I disagree, for me that post came too much out of the blue and I do not understand why she wanted to stop the shitfight there. I like btdt more atm because he kept going after Calix called for a truce.

I also dont see what Calix has achieved so far. 3 bad conversations without direction. Too much sucking up to rayn. Too agressive in her tone.

I think she is mafia.


I mean yes, I agree with the whole aggressiveness. This is what struck out to me when she called me out on not voting Koshi, it just felt super-aggressive but I can see this coming from ballsy Calix willing to get the game going. Then again the "oh misunderstanding" thing - wouldn't value that too high, it's kinda weird but town does weird things imho.

Right now I'm not down for a Calix lynch. I've heard people say that activitiy alone is not alignment indicative but right now I'm not willing to lynch a player that's actually talking.

I'm also not willing to let go of my Koshi feelings. Still feels a lot like drive-by-mafia-koshi but I'd need to actually dig through his town games and compare stuff which tbh I'm not down to right now. Maybe later but I don't think so.

I like Shape but that's gut feeling.
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
April 06 2017 15:03 GMT
#232
On April 06 2017 19:47 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2017 19:45 Calix wrote:
On April 06 2017 19:44 beentheredonethat wrote:
On April 06 2017 16:25 Koshi wrote:
Hey rayn, if you don't mind, I am going for a -20 posts D1, 2-3 posts N1, 5 posts D2 and 2 posts N2. Well, unless mafia shoots me like they did the last 5 nights I was alive.

I will read the first 36 hours of the game and give my opinion. With some luck it is different than the last time.

Koshi please don't say such things they feel scummy


How is that post scummy?

"I will do [whatever]" is always scummy. Don't promise, do.

this is btw one of the worst entrance sequences I have ever seen
- btdt calls koshi scum for making a promise
- (even though koshi basically promised to be lazy and he does that every game)
- btdt says it's worth a push (1 step removed from a promise)
- btdt does not push koshi
but I will give him the benefit of the doubt on being scum for now
good times for all
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
April 06 2017 15:09 GMT
#233
My main problem with Koshi right now is how we had to drag out this conversation just to get to these points because he wasn't cooperating. And the points were not even that good in the end. It didn't do anything but fill space with an argument that doesn't add up and is uncharitable.

I am still unable to see how he read my posts and concluded "she's trying to keep on rayn's good side".

But then again, going about his read in this manner draws a lot of attention to Koshi. And he is attacking me. Unless he saw his team-mates last game and decided that copying their strategy is an A* move, I'm not convinced that scum!Koshi would do that off the bat.

Meh, I'll have to reread later in case I'm succumbing to OMGUS with that case.
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5188 Posts
April 06 2017 15:26 GMT
#234
On April 06 2017 23:54 Tumblewood wrote:
I feel like a broken clock but I've got a nice mindmeld/townread on calix

Go on?
On April 06 2017 23:57 beentheredonethat wrote:
So trying to get this straight:

Koshi says, Calix is scum because
* Calix has engaged in a bad conversation with me without direction
* in a bad conversation with ?? without direction
* in a bad conversation with ?? without direction

+ Show Spoiler [post in question] +
On April 06 2017 23:16 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2017 22:46 Shapelog wrote:
Also Koshi,

On April 06 2017 21:54 Koshi wrote:
I disagree. btdt is town. You are more likely not.
Progress was made.


What did you see in the vs. other than not understanding her?

The post you use to call Calix town, I disagree, for me that post came too much out of the blue and I do not understand why she wanted to stop the shitfight there. I like btdt more atm because he kept going after Calix called for a truce.

I also dont see what Calix has achieved so far. 3 bad conversations without direction. Too much sucking up to rayn. Too agressive in her tone.

I think she is mafia.


I mean yes, I agree with the whole aggressiveness. This is what struck out to me when she called me out on not voting Koshi, it just felt super-aggressive but I can see this coming from ballsy Calix willing to get the game going. Then again the "oh misunderstanding" thing - wouldn't value that too high, it's kinda weird but town does weird things imho.

Right now I'm not down for a Calix lynch. I've heard people say that activitiy alone is not alignment indicative but right now I'm not willing to lynch a player that's actually talking.

I'm also not willing to let go of my Koshi feelings. Still feels a lot like drive-by-mafia-koshi but I'd need to actually dig through his town games and compare stuff which tbh I'm not down to right now. Maybe later but I don't think so.

I like Shape but that's gut feeling.

And sucking up to ryan apparently?

So do you think im reading more into the misunderstanding/move on posts from her in my thought process on it?
You go do that meta thing. I'm fine looking at the game info lol.

I like Shape as well. I hope he wont get Nightkilled.
On April 07 2017 00:03 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2017 19:47 beentheredonethat wrote:
On April 06 2017 19:45 Calix wrote:
On April 06 2017 19:44 beentheredonethat wrote:
On April 06 2017 16:25 Koshi wrote:
Hey rayn, if you don't mind, I am going for a -20 posts D1, 2-3 posts N1, 5 posts D2 and 2 posts N2. Well, unless mafia shoots me like they did the last 5 nights I was alive.

I will read the first 36 hours of the game and give my opinion. With some luck it is different than the last time.

Koshi please don't say such things they feel scummy


How is that post scummy?

"I will do [whatever]" is always scummy. Don't promise, do.

this is btw one of the worst entrance sequences I have ever seen
- btdt calls koshi scum for making a promise
- (even though koshi basically promised to be lazy and he does that every game)
- btdt says it's worth a push (1 step removed from a promise)
- btdt does not push koshi
but I will give him the benefit of the doubt on being scum for now

So your where calix is hence the mind meld comment?
On April 07 2017 00:09 Calix wrote:
My main problem with Koshi right now is how we had to drag out this conversation just to get to these points because he wasn't cooperating. And the points were not even that good in the end. It didn't do anything but fill space with an argument that doesn't add up and is uncharitable.

I am still unable to see how he read my posts and concluded "she's trying to keep on rayn's good side".

But then again, going about his read in this manner draws a lot of attention to Koshi. And he is attacking me. Unless he saw his team-mates last game and decided that copying their strategy is an A* move, I'm not convinced that scum!Koshi would do that off the bat.


Meh, I'll have to reread later in case I'm succumbing to OMGUS with that case.

This is actually my thoughts on him as well. The other thing I notice is that he is fine dropping a joke here and there as well, inferring that he isn't stressed at all rn.

I want to see where the point goes though and more what koshi does with it. Koshi, my ears are yours.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5188 Posts
April 06 2017 15:28 GMT
#235
Meanwhile, let me look at SL chip in a page or two ago.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5188 Posts
April 06 2017 15:30 GMT
#236
On April 06 2017 23:16 sicklucker wrote:
im gonna be really shit day 1 tho im in a bad state of mind and not alot of time

Oh so that is it said. I just saw his name.

Hope everything is ok!
subtle buddy tactics
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
April 06 2017 15:44 GMT
#237
On April 07 2017 00:03 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2017 19:47 beentheredonethat wrote:
On April 06 2017 19:45 Calix wrote:
On April 06 2017 19:44 beentheredonethat wrote:
On April 06 2017 16:25 Koshi wrote:
Hey rayn, if you don't mind, I am going for a -20 posts D1, 2-3 posts N1, 5 posts D2 and 2 posts N2. Well, unless mafia shoots me like they did the last 5 nights I was alive.

I will read the first 36 hours of the game and give my opinion. With some luck it is different than the last time.

Koshi please don't say such things they feel scummy


How is that post scummy?

"I will do [whatever]" is always scummy. Don't promise, do.

this is btw one of the worst entrance sequences I have ever seen
- btdt calls koshi scum for making a promise
- (even though koshi basically promised to be lazy and he does that every game)
- btdt says it's worth a push (1 step removed from a promise)
- btdt does not push koshi
but I will give him the benefit of the doubt on being scum for now

I'm continuesly expressing my thoughts about Koshi. And they are not "oh he's so town" thoughts. I consider his current play to be scummy. I'm not sure how you make "does not push koshi" out of that lol.

Also I like how you paint that constructed picture and then back off. Like, "oh I find that's scummy but here's the benefit of the doubt" isn't that like exactly what you think I was doing?

like, y'all weigh "I think that is worth pushing" way too heavy. And with y'all I mean Calix and you, Tumble.
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
April 06 2017 15:45 GMT
#238
On April 07 2017 00:26 Shapelog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2017 23:54 Tumblewood wrote:
I feel like a broken clock but I've got a nice mindmeld/townread on calix

Go on?
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2017 23:57 beentheredonethat wrote:
So trying to get this straight:

Koshi says, Calix is scum because
* Calix has engaged in a bad conversation with me without direction
* in a bad conversation with ?? without direction
* in a bad conversation with ?? without direction

+ Show Spoiler [post in question] +
On April 06 2017 23:16 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2017 22:46 Shapelog wrote:
Also Koshi,

On April 06 2017 21:54 Koshi wrote:
I disagree. btdt is town. You are more likely not.
Progress was made.


What did you see in the vs. other than not understanding her?

The post you use to call Calix town, I disagree, for me that post came too much out of the blue and I do not understand why she wanted to stop the shitfight there. I like btdt more atm because he kept going after Calix called for a truce.

I also dont see what Calix has achieved so far. 3 bad conversations without direction. Too much sucking up to rayn. Too agressive in her tone.

I think she is mafia.


I mean yes, I agree with the whole aggressiveness. This is what struck out to me when she called me out on not voting Koshi, it just felt super-aggressive but I can see this coming from ballsy Calix willing to get the game going. Then again the "oh misunderstanding" thing - wouldn't value that too high, it's kinda weird but town does weird things imho.

Right now I'm not down for a Calix lynch. I've heard people say that activitiy alone is not alignment indicative but right now I'm not willing to lynch a player that's actually talking.

I'm also not willing to let go of my Koshi feelings. Still feels a lot like drive-by-mafia-koshi but I'd need to actually dig through his town games and compare stuff which tbh I'm not down to right now. Maybe later but I don't think so.

I like Shape but that's gut feeling.

And sucking up to ryan apparently?

So do you think im reading more into the misunderstanding/move on posts from her in my thought process on it?
You go do that meta thing. I'm fine looking at the game info lol.

I like Shape as well. I hope he wont get Nightkilled.
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2017 00:03 Tumblewood wrote:
On April 06 2017 19:47 beentheredonethat wrote:
On April 06 2017 19:45 Calix wrote:
On April 06 2017 19:44 beentheredonethat wrote:
On April 06 2017 16:25 Koshi wrote:
Hey rayn, if you don't mind, I am going for a -20 posts D1, 2-3 posts N1, 5 posts D2 and 2 posts N2. Well, unless mafia shoots me like they did the last 5 nights I was alive.

I will read the first 36 hours of the game and give my opinion. With some luck it is different than the last time.

Koshi please don't say such things they feel scummy


How is that post scummy?

"I will do [whatever]" is always scummy. Don't promise, do.

this is btw one of the worst entrance sequences I have ever seen
- btdt calls koshi scum for making a promise
- (even though koshi basically promised to be lazy and he does that every game)
- btdt says it's worth a push (1 step removed from a promise)
- btdt does not push koshi
but I will give him the benefit of the doubt on being scum for now

So your where calix is hence the mind meld comment?
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2017 00:09 Calix wrote:
My main problem with Koshi right now is how we had to drag out this conversation just to get to these points because he wasn't cooperating. And the points were not even that good in the end. It didn't do anything but fill space with an argument that doesn't add up and is uncharitable.

I am still unable to see how he read my posts and concluded "she's trying to keep on rayn's good side".

But then again, going about his read in this manner draws a lot of attention to Koshi. And he is attacking me. Unless he saw his team-mates last game and decided that copying their strategy is an A* move, I'm not convinced that scum!Koshi would do that off the bat.


Meh, I'll have to reread later in case I'm succumbing to OMGUS with that case.

This is actually my thoughts on him as well. The other thing I notice is that he is fine dropping a joke here and there as well, inferring that he isn't stressed at all rn.

I want to see where the point goes though and more what koshi does with it. Koshi, my ears are yours.

To be honest I don't know what "sucking up to rayn" means. Help me
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
April 06 2017 15:46 GMT
#239
Shape: "So do you think im reading more into the misunderstanding/move on posts from her in my thought process on it?"

I don't know how much you read into it or how much should be read into it. It's one notable thing and the more the game progresses, the better (or worse, lol) it will be readable
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 06 2017 15:52 GMT
#240
Tumble is obvious town.
Tumble pls explain your mindmeld pls.
I had a good night of sleep.
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