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Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
April 06 2017 17:30 GMT
#281
On April 07 2017 02:19 darthfoley wrote:
The thing is I still don't see how probing rayn is "sucking up"

I can understand the point if Koshi was talking about it from the "faking activity" point he brought up later, but the progression from "she was sucking up" to "she was faking activity" doesn't really make sense to me

I just don't understand it as a whole.

Tbh, its something every hour or so from him so at this rate.

On April 07 2017 02:20 darthfoley wrote:
Ooohhh if Calix meant generally as in she finds btdt scummy in many games then I feel like an idiot. I thought she was just talking about this game "generally"

That's just what I take it as. I mean, I doubt she would use "generally" in that term you had for like a hour of gameplay.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
April 06 2017 17:31 GMT
#282
On April 07 2017 02:24 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2017 02:22 Shapelog wrote:
Man,

I fucking remember my first game as mafia.

Wrote like 25% of the game filter through shitposts and other stuff.


Yea it was a newbie game with me iirc. Still salty about that one

The game that started the bussing addiction.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
April 06 2017 17:47 GMT
#283
On April 07 2017 02:20 darthfoley wrote:
Ooohhh if Calix meant generally as in she finds btdt scummy in many games then I feel like an idiot. I thought she was just talking about this game "generally"

I think I'm not scummy in most of my games. I hosty in most of my games.

okay back to business.
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
April 06 2017 17:48 GMT
#284
I'm hosty*
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
April 06 2017 17:49 GMT
#285
So darth you're up for shapelog or what
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 06 2017 17:49 GMT
#286
Damn. This could be another game I am 100% correct and then town lynches me. Not sure though. I could still be horribly wrong.
I had a good night of sleep.
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
April 06 2017 18:07 GMT
#287
On April 07 2017 01:58 beentheredonethat wrote:
Actually reading Tumblewood's filter: there is NO (absolutely no!) contribution to the game. Just banter. Besides that easily to be made up post.

##vote Tumblewood do something

how bout you do something first and I do something about that something
(I think you are bad town who thinks contributions mean anything. thankfully you are transparent. I think.)
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
April 06 2017 18:12 GMT
#288
thinking shape is also town. but that read depends a lot on the progression of the thread
good times for all
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
April 06 2017 18:21 GMT
#289
On April 07 2017 03:07 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2017 01:58 beentheredonethat wrote:
Actually reading Tumblewood's filter: there is NO (absolutely no!) contribution to the game. Just banter. Besides that easily to be made up post.

##vote Tumblewood do something

how bout you do something first and I do something about that something
(I think you are bad town who thinks contributions mean anything. thankfully you are transparent. I think.)

The main difference between us two is that I actually do something: I interact with people (i.e. making myself readable), I drop reads, I push here and pressure there, and I try to stay reasonable.

You do nothing.
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
April 06 2017 18:22 GMT
#290
Even the "I think you are bad town" thing is basically what Calix said. Townreading shape is pretty much thread sentiment.

Are you scum Tumble
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 06 2017 18:27 GMT
#291
On April 06 2017 20:08 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2017 15:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And even if i did it doesn't have anything to do with my question.
So why did you claim you will play shitty enough to not receive points?


I never said that. your putting words into my mouth.

Then what did you say? You clearly dont think no town players receive points if town wins because that is just stupid.

So you either thought you will play shitty enough to not get points (aka not be amongst the "top" players), or you believed town doesnt win the game.

If not, then what did you say? Dont dance around the question, just answer it.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 06 2017 18:37 GMT
#292
On April 07 2017 00:09 Calix wrote:
My main problem with Koshi right now is how we had to drag out this conversation just to get to these points because he wasn't cooperating.

Bullshit. If you dont understand what someone says it doesnt mean this.

BTDT is town. Koshi probably too. Shapelog might be mafia but i am not sure.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 06 2017 18:38 GMT
#293
Oh yes tumble might be town too. But i remember i asked him something and he just left and i would like to have an answer.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 06 2017 18:40 GMT
#294
Meh i didnt. I was supposed to but i cant now because no time.
table for two on a tv tray
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
April 06 2017 18:44 GMT
#295
On April 07 2017 03:21 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2017 03:07 Tumblewood wrote:
On April 07 2017 01:58 beentheredonethat wrote:
Actually reading Tumblewood's filter: there is NO (absolutely no!) contribution to the game. Just banter. Besides that easily to be made up post.

##vote Tumblewood do something

how bout you do something first and I do something about that something
(I think you are bad town who thinks contributions mean anything. thankfully you are transparent. I think.)

The main difference between us two is that I actually do something: I interact with people (i.e. making myself readable), I drop reads, I push here and pressure there, and I try to stay reasonable.

You do nothing.

nah I'm pretty content with having three reads that I think are right with as little as has happened so far
and what ever happened to that push on koshi
good times for all
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
April 06 2017 18:55 GMT
#296
On April 06 2017 23:54 Tumblewood wrote:
I feel like a broken clock but I've got a nice mindmeld/townread on calix

On April 07 2017 03:12 Tumblewood wrote:
thinking shape is also town. but that read depends a lot on the progression of the thread


I was able to find two. What's the third?
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
April 06 2017 18:56 GMT
#297
It's not hard to give town reads. Are you in for some scumreads?
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
April 06 2017 19:03 GMT
#298
On April 07 2017 03:55 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2017 23:54 Tumblewood wrote:
I feel like a broken clock but I've got a nice mindmeld/townread on calix

Show nested quote +
On April 07 2017 03:12 Tumblewood wrote:
thinking shape is also town. but that read depends a lot on the progression of the thread


I was able to find two. What's the third?

duh when I called you bad town. you are so righteous
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
April 06 2017 19:04 GMT
#299
On April 07 2017 03:56 beentheredonethat wrote:
It's not hard to give town reads. Are you in for some scumreads?

maybe when I decide I don't like someone
good times for all
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
April 06 2017 19:04 GMT
#300
On April 06 2017 22:37 Shapelog wrote:
Alright, here where I stand with the conversation between Calix and BTDT.

For Calix side, the following makes me think they are more town then scum when I look at this part.
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2017 20:41 Calix wrote:
This went dumb real quick.

Has that cleared everything up? I don't fancy a repeat of disfo/ Xatalos/ Damdred/ Calix where a misunderstanding gets dragged out to epic proportions, lol.

I personally think that if Calix was scum, they would of not posted this. It would make sense for Scum!Calix to keep on BTDT as to have a excuse to post, and also because of the what apparently happen with a misunderstanding last game. I do acknowledge that Calix could be backing off here as scum due to a lack of footing on BTDT, but I expect that they would keep on for later credit of being active D1 or even for being on BTDT/Ryan later on if either got into negative light.

Moreover, BTDT was more in the mood of keeping the fight going on. Which would allow scum!calix to hide in what would prob. develop into a shitfight with BTDT for getting pass d1.

However, I personally do not see anything I really like in calix's points. Some I dont really understand the way calix talks (I.E. calix posts kinda feel a bit circlejerking? If that makes sense, prob doesnt). Also, I do feel as there should be more from calix if they are town and though something about BTDT is scummy. I don't get the stance of "waiting to question you" at all either.

But doesn't feel like calix is at the stage of mafia discrediting that is usually happening at this stage of the game hmmm.

I will say that I would rank calix a bit above null into the town lean range b/c while I do not understand calix overall stance, I think the clear out looks more town then mafia in my eyes.

Flipsid3, I think BTDT also displayed similar actions regarding koshi's meta point and not voting calix. His posts dont feel like he is being pressured in my eyes, and seems more of him trying to figure out calixs point while being mad at calix logic. One could state that he is being pretty agressive in a way, but I just chop it up to him as taking a stance at figuring out the game. Don't really have a issue with him right now.

More towny then Calix and working his way up to a town lean


So I stand corrected in that Shape did post some "reads" but I find this post to be so confusing for such a relatively simple read explanation. I also think it's odd that Shape says btdt is more towny than Calix but has spent a considerable amount of thread capital defending Calix imo. It just feels off. The time I lost to scum!Shapelog was when he did posts like this that were super convoluted and I lost motivation to read them after 3 sentences. That's kinda how I feel so far with his play.

A few town reads, meh scum reads (including a couple "this is weird, this is off" type sentences @ thanks ritoky for the guidance) and posts like this that are kind of semi-serious but maybe not really that seem like ez hedging opportunities later on to say "well that was just a joke" or "that was actually serious!"

On April 06 2017 23:46 Shapelog wrote:
Show nested quote +
Tah dah, countered your 'point' in ten seconds. Try again.


I kinda want to scumread you b/c of the cockiness of this so it will go down .


In my experience, Calix is a cocky bugger no matter her alignment, so I don't know what her tone has to do with the price of eggs.

On the Flipsid3, I agree that Koshi's "clear" of Tumble is super premature imo; feels quite a bit like what he did last scum game when he "cleared" Calix very early on and then NK'd her.
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
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