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On April 08 2017 09:36 Tumblewood wrote: no reason for me to still be voting rels. shapelog vs calix is a tossup imo, given that calix can't be bothered to show up as soon as she's scumread. but I'll stick back on shape for now because I doubt town!shape clears himself later more likely than town!calix I would still like to hear from Tumble that how on earth is this a good reasoning to place a vote on someone over another person. | ||
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[QUOTE]On April 06 2017 22:37 Shapelog wrote: Alright, here where I stand with the conversation between Calix and BTDT. For Calix side, the following makes me think they are more town then scum when I look at this part. [QUOTE]On April 06 2017 20:41 Calix wrote: This went dumb real quick. Has that cleared everything up? I don't fancy a repeat of disfo/ Xatalos/ Damdred/ Calix where a misunderstanding gets dragged out to epic proportions, lol.[/QUOTE] I personally think that if Calix was scum, they would of not posted this. It would make sense for Scum!Calix to keep on BTDT as to have a excuse to post, and also because of the what apparently happen with a misunderstanding last game. I do acknowledge that Calix could be backing off here as scum due to a lack of footing on BTDT, but I expect that they would keep on for later credit of being active D1 or even for being on BTDT/Ryan later on if either got into negative light. [....] [/QUOTE] I find it very unlikely Shapelog as town doesn't comment on my case on Calix in any way after saying the above. Since this: [QUOTE]On April 07 2017 16:12 raynpelikoneet wrote: [QUOTE]On April 06 2017 20:41 Calix wrote: Has that cleared everything up? I don't fancy a repeat of disfo/ Xatalos/ Damdred/ Calix where a misunderstanding gets dragged out to epic proportions, lol.[/QUOTE] This is actually pretty weird Calix says this because in the last game she was the only one to make a correct read during that argument.[/QUOTE] ....is something that is 100% true and was back then. Easily provable, and early on Shapelog's townread on Calix was mostly based on this and the opposite conclusion he came to. Yes, he later on changed or "changed" the read, but he never really commited to it in any way and i kinda don't believe Shapelog believed his case on Tumblewood was better than the case on Calix. | ||
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On April 06 2017 22:37 Shapelog wrote: Alright, here where I stand with the conversation between Calix and BTDT. For Calix side, the following makes me think they are more town then scum when I look at this part. I personally think that if Calix was scum, they would of not posted this. It would make sense for Scum!Calix to keep on BTDT as to have a excuse to post, and also because of the what apparently happen with a misunderstanding last game. I do acknowledge that Calix could be backing off here as scum due to a lack of footing on BTDT, but I expect that they would keep on for later credit of being active D1 or even for being on BTDT/Ryan later on if either got into negative light. [....] I find it very unlikely Shapelog as town doesn't comment on my case on Calix in any way after saying the above. Since this: On April 07 2017 16:12 raynpelikoneet wrote: This is actually pretty weird Calix says this because in the last game she was the only one to make a correct read during that argument. ....is something that is 100% true and was back then. Easily provable, and early on Shapelog's townread on Calix was mostly based on this and the opposite conclusion he came to. Yes, he later on changed or "changed" the read, but he never really commited to it in any way and i kinda don't believe Shapelog believed his case on Tumblewood was better than the case on Calix. | ||
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On April 10 2017 21:40 Rels wrote: That I don't find Shape's filter particulary scummy, but not townie either and everyone else is town. I meant the cordial interactions with Calix. Which ones do you mean? | ||
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On April 11 2017 05:36 darthfoley wrote: Fair enough. I still don't see why "calix's interactions with btdt make it unlikely they're together" cuz don't mafia often pressure each other early D1 and then back off (which is what she kinda did) It is not "they interacted with together and ended up not calling each other scum", it's more of how the interaction went, especially from btdt's side. Like usually when mafia interacts with mafia and it ends like this both people know what they are doing, right? They have a plan and they know where it ends, in the end. I think it's highly unlike when Calix "ends the interaction" btdt just keeps going on and going on with it. Also that was the one of the interactions that made btdt "sad" a bit later in the game. Why would he get sad for that? He had just achieved what he wanted to as mafia. | ||
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On April 08 2017 05:06 Tumblewood wrote: if rels is mafia then the mafia have as much thread pull as one townie. they cannot really decide wagons. if there are two active mafia, they can work together to make sure the lynch is neither of them, and unless they fold hard (unlikely given the quality of players) that will probably be true at deadline. unfortunately I can't make a read based on that if there is a 25% chance it's not true What does this post mean? You assume if Rels is mafia here mafia cannot have thread pull with one player but they can if Rels is not - with two players especially given the quality of players. Can you elaborate more on what you mean here? If the quality of players is "bad" as you seem to be saying, why can't 1 mafia make a difference and produce amounts of thread pull? Calix (2) - Koshi, darthfoley Tumblewood (2) - beentheredonethat, Shapelog Rels (1) - Tumblewood Sicklucker (1) - raynpelikoneet beentheredonethat (1) - sicklucker Not Voting (2) - Calix, Rels Here is the votecount at the time you made the post so how on earth could "one mafia definitely not produce enough thread pull especailly with the quality of players"? | ||
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On April 11 2017 20:51 Koshi wrote: Eeuhm. I played super active and I was the catalysator of the Calix lynch. I identified she was mafia before you people had a clue, pushed her, and told you why she was mafia. Multiple times, over multiple pages. The sucking up to rayn was legit. I only didn't play at night & D2. And I was able to lurk there a bit because you guys were slow as fuck. But it doesn't matter, I was 100% ok with the Shape lynch. It is not my job to make this game anymore. I already earned MVP for the Calix push D1. But due to having it already I will let you people fight for it. If you think I should be lynched... Sure thing. Townies literally cannot play better than I did in the first 42 hours I was in the game. So go lynch me and proof you are all worthless. I gave you 1 mafia. Go find the second. If I am still in your PoE for some reason go find a head doctor. This is not a good attitude Koshi. Please help me. | ||
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On April 11 2017 21:07 Koshi wrote: I read Shape his filter and this was fucking gold. wp Shape. I think this is not what makes Rels mafia in case he is mafia here. Like fucking literally Rels doesn't HAVE TO do this if he is mafia, he doesn't have to townread sicklucker for this reason. Why do you - as mafia - townread people for reasons you don't have to????? You are supposed to push mislynches to win games, not townread possible suspects (which sicklucker definitely was because he was defending Calix on D1).... Why does mafia!Rels do what Shapelog claims here? I don't care if it seems irrational, i care about why the fuck does someone who is actually goosd at this game as scum do that???? | ||
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On April 11 2017 22:00 Koshi wrote: Just make sure your last posts give a clear direction for tomorrow rayn. Rels/Tumble/btdt/df And if you have time and didn't already do it. (I didn't read the previous 100 hours carefully yet), can you give me your opinion on how likely it is df is brilliant mafia that just made a couple but really good quality posts. If darthfoley's play from what the last game (him as mafia) was has suddenly gone like 100% different then yes he could be mafia, but no.  | ||
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On April 12 2017 00:08 Koshi wrote: It is true what you say but I think Rels just made the correct play to survive. Calix was made. Same could be said about you and me too... And i don't think i am mafia and i don't think you are mafia. | ||
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