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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 08 2017 02:15 GMT
#14
/in
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 13 2017 14:29 GMT
#29
woo for 3:00 deadline
revolt against the 2-o-clockers
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 15 2017 00:37 GMT
#54
SLASH CONFIRM
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 17 2017 02:25 GMT
#259
2 pages an hour? in a non-shapelog game? i thought that was impossible
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 17 2017 02:26 GMT
#260
anyway the stuff i've cared about so far
On March 17 2017 08:02 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2017 08:01 Koshi wrote:
On March 17 2017 07:59 Calix wrote:
Koshi, if you'd be kind enough to humour me for a moment, what do you make of the Damdred/ Xat/ disfo discussion?

I am not reading the thread. Sorry. I tried to read it but didn't get passed page 1 yet.


If you are just going to be useless then can you kindly fuck off and not post? It would be ten times more helpful since you've probably hit your minimum post requirements.

i like this ridiculous overreaction. calix is town for now

also i like deepblue
On March 17 2017 09:19 Malongo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2017 09:15 darthfoley wrote:
Salutations friends! May the odds be ever in our favor because we have such wonderful mods!

I hate that quote.
##vote darthfoley

this is a nice fickle one too
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 17 2017 02:29 GMT
#261
On March 17 2017 08:54 Damdred wrote:
As for your reads Calix yeah I agree.

Koshi, xata, calix, deep, damdred is a strong town base right now.

Deeps follow up postings (while I strongly disagree what he says makes me scum), have been pretty thoughtful. And pretty good.

ik damdred likes town circles but come on this is too early to read vets
calix and deepblue are eh but who am i to criticize that. just xata/koshi/damdy/rayn are way too early to read
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 17 2017 02:46 GMT
#263
On March 17 2017 11:41 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2017 11:29 Tumblewood wrote:
On March 17 2017 08:54 Damdred wrote:
As for your reads Calix yeah I agree.

Koshi, xata, calix, deep, damdred is a strong town base right now.

Deeps follow up postings (while I strongly disagree what he says makes me scum), have been pretty thoughtful. And pretty good.

ik damdred likes town circles but come on this is too early to read vets
calix and deepblue are eh but who am i to criticize that. just xata/koshi/damdy/rayn are way too early to read


can you clarify this?

well i had just said i like them (and i do)
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 17 2017 02:46 GMT
#264
but also it's a little iffy to towncircle them already
hopefully a throwaway circle though?
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 17 2017 03:02 GMT
#266
On March 17 2017 11:50 Onegu wrote:
I think there is a problem with my role PM...

It says VT.

Must be some sort of mistake for me to roll VT again.

I think hosts are just trolling me.

DUDE epic nice!
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 17 2017 14:24 GMT
#331
On March 17 2017 15:10 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2017 11:29 Tumblewood wrote:
On March 17 2017 08:54 Damdred wrote:
As for your reads Calix yeah I agree.

Koshi, xata, calix, deep, damdred is a strong town base right now.

Deeps follow up postings (while I strongly disagree what he says makes me scum), have been pretty thoughtful. And pretty good.

ik damdred likes town circles but come on this is too early to read vets
calix and deepblue are eh but who am i to criticize that. just xata/koshi/damdy/rayn are way too early to read


Rayn, in town circle? Hasn't he been just null/scum read by everyone?

What were your reads on me/Koski/Damdred then?

ya but he's still too early to read
I was null on all of them. there are reasons I could claim scum/town on one of them but they are pretty lame
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 17 2017 14:38 GMT
#340
On March 17 2017 23:25 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2017 23:24 Tumblewood wrote:
On March 17 2017 15:10 Xatalos wrote:
On March 17 2017 11:29 Tumblewood wrote:
On March 17 2017 08:54 Damdred wrote:
As for your reads Calix yeah I agree.

Koshi, xata, calix, deep, damdred is a strong town base right now.

Deeps follow up postings (while I strongly disagree what he says makes me scum), have been pretty thoughtful. And pretty good.

ik damdred likes town circles but come on this is too early to read vets
calix and deepblue are eh but who am i to criticize that. just xata/koshi/damdy/rayn are way too early to read


Rayn, in town circle? Hasn't he been just null/scum read by everyone?

What were your reads on me/Koski/Damdred then?

ya but he's still too early to read
I was null on all of them. there are reasons I could claim scum/town on one of them but they are pretty lame


Since the dead pigeon outside my window has done more scum-hunting than you have, don't hold back then.

Going "it's too early to read XYZ" is anti-town.

fuck that I'm sick of reads based on like 10 posts from someone who can easily look decent for as long as xata did when Damdred TRed him (and he wasn't that townie imo).
it seemed like it should have been a throwaway read and then it wasn't
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 17 2017 14:50 GMT
#348
ALSO disfo v calix is a TvT argument. no way scum!disfo goes into an argument against someone way more widely TR b/c he knows he won't win
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 17 2017 15:14 GMT
#358
On March 17 2017 23:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On March 17 2017 23:50 Tumblewood wrote:
ALSO disfo v calix is a TvT argument. no way scum!disfo goes into an argument against someone way more widely TR b/c he knows he won't win

This isn't a good argument. If disformation is scum regardless of how widely townread Calix is he has to go into the argument with him because Calix is calling him mafia. Why wouldn't disformation go into argument with Calix if Calix is mafia and he is town? That would mean that Calix' argument is bs so NOT going into an argument with him makes no sense.

this is based off of the assumption that calix is town (duh, anyone so anal is probably town). also scum can totally ignore the accusation. it wasn't exactly threatening and the omgus defense is mostly a last resort.
seeing two people go at it without interacting with the rest of the thread is a tell I will always call
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 17 2017 15:40 GMT
#375
On March 18 2017 00:37 Koshi wrote:
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On March 17 2017 23:50 Tumblewood wrote:
ALSO disfo v calix is a TvT argument. no way scum!disfo goes into an argument against someone way more widely TR b/c he knows he won't win

What would scum!disfo do?

brush it off or do that stupid "you're wrong but dw I won't scumread you" thing
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 17 2017 15:54 GMT
#394
you can poke holes in my TvT argument but I know I'm right, I've never missed a read like this. and if you are baffled by how else disfo could respond to an accusation, look at what I've done all game
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 17 2017 16:18 GMT
#425
On March 18 2017 00:56 darthfoley wrote:
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On March 18 2017 00:54 Tumblewood wrote:
you can poke holes in my TvT argument but I know I'm right, I've never missed a read like this. and if you are baffled by how else disfo could respond to an accusation, look at what I've done all game


can you summarize your thoughts on the game atm: lynch trains/reads/no lynch circle for you, etc?

calix & disfo are town
I liked dbs but that read's back to null again after a disappointing continuation
malongo is a slight town lean
I like rayn and xata by gut buuut I can't explain why
Damdred is ok? Koshi too
no one who is actually playing is striking me as scummy so I might just park my vote on onegu
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 17 2017 16:26 GMT
#430
On March 18 2017 01:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2017 01:18 Tumblewood wrote:
On March 18 2017 00:56 darthfoley wrote:
On March 18 2017 00:54 Tumblewood wrote:
you can poke holes in my TvT argument but I know I'm right, I've never missed a read like this. and if you are baffled by how else disfo could respond to an accusation, look at what I've done all game


can you summarize your thoughts on the game atm: lynch trains/reads/no lynch circle for you, etc?

calix & disfo are town
I liked dbs but that read's back to null again after a disappointing continuation
malongo is a slight town lean
I like rayn and xata by gut buuut I can't explain why
Damdred is ok? Koshi too
no one who is actually playing is striking me as scummy so I might just park my vote on onegu

Explain to me why you think i am town when i have called out people you are townreading and you said you cannot make a good read on vets so far?

ah yes I forgot that part where townies normally agree with me and like me!
you are saying smart shit, sometimes, and actively hunting, mostly, but I have no evidence so I am still cautious
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 17 2017 17:39 GMT
#487
On March 18 2017 02:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Because Tumble, you stated that:
- Vets are too hard to read at this point
- People who rayn is calling scum i think are town

How do you come to conclsuion i am leaning town?

magic + Show Spoiler +
the EXTREMELY ELABORATE thought process is basically that. "oh, hm rayn's pushing for info. that seems pretty reasonable, he might be town"

also I stated vets were too hard to read when we were 4 hours into the game
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 18 2017 04:43 GMT
#623
filtered df. hopefully i can bang out a couple more of these before i go to sleep
On March 17 2017 09:22 darthfoley wrote:
actually nvm the op doesn't include letters regarding the setups. so maybe town points for trying to clarify what Eden meant?

boooooooooooo + Show Spoiler +
just lame. not super substantial but i don't see why anyone would care enough to make this post

On March 17 2017 10:14 darthfoley wrote:
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On March 17 2017 10:09 Calix wrote:
On March 17 2017 10:07 darthfoley wrote:
On March 17 2017 09:19 Malongo wrote:
On March 17 2017 09:15 darthfoley wrote:
Salutations friends! May the odds be ever in our favor because we have such wonderful mods!

I hate that quote.
##vote darthfoley


Reading the thread enough to vote, but not posting anything of substance.

#LurkModeInitiated


Is Raynpelikoneet also scummy to you? If not, why?


About as null as possible. The few times I have played with rayn, he's been NK N0/1, so maybe this trolling style is a way of furthering himself in the game.

You equated his playstyle with Koshi's in the scum QT last game, and I can kinda see the similarities: brash, in your face, takes charge etc. He's also quite good at it, so I don't really understand the scum!rayn motivation to trolling early on, unless he just doesn't give a shit for some reason. I always feel like mafia is in the best position if they control the topic of conversation, which he hasn't even tried to do. He's also not helping town at all, so although I have some theorycraft of optimal mafia play, he's super null

On March 18 2017 00:36 darthfoley wrote:
The only part of rayn's post that I like is the Malongo read. I feel like his play so far has been forced

his play was forced but it was not mentioned and super duper null two hours earlier?
also the first of those two posts is "really null. [...a paragraph making no real claims...] again, really null." no me gusta

prob biased because i came at his filter more from the lens of "why is everyone saying he's scum" but hell i'd vote this
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 18 2017 04:46 GMT
#624
and actually i would like to give malongo the benefit of the doubt for today. it is a tone thing. seems fickle and all over the place, which is ok and encouraged in tumblewood's townable world
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 18 2017 04:50 GMT
#625
ya eden is town. this post especially seems like a smart thing someone would do
On March 18 2017 00:17 Eden1892 wrote:
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On March 17 2017 07:34 disformation wrote:
On March 17 2017 07:28 Damdred wrote:
What Eden did though is wifom right up his alley, soon kind of ignores it and will wait patiently for him to come back and interact with.

What do you think of it though dis? Scum? Bad town? Obviously you have an opinion

who? eden or xata?

dont think i have played with eden before. opening is 50/50. tries to give the thread something to work with and gtfos. it is mechanical/setup talk though, so easy to do as scum.
xata biting immediately is only something i found after reading his posts like 3 times with a "why could he be scum" mindset.

Why are you taking my claim at face value, disfo?

but also her tone is generally impatient. the vibes are good
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 18 2017 04:58 GMT
#626
okay great filter sesh!
where i am at

town, i think
calix
disfo
eden
malongo
dbs
koshi?

needs more examination but their filters were kinda long
rayn
damdred
xata
koshi?

bad
rels
onegu

scummy
df
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 18 2017 05:33 GMT
#629
On March 18 2017 14:01 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2017 13:43 Tumblewood wrote:
filtered df. hopefully i can bang out a couple more of these before i go to sleep
On March 17 2017 09:22 darthfoley wrote:
actually nvm the op doesn't include letters regarding the setups. so maybe town points for trying to clarify what Eden meant?

boooooooooooo + Show Spoiler +
just lame. not super substantial but i don't see why anyone would care enough to make this post

On March 17 2017 10:14 darthfoley wrote:
On March 17 2017 10:09 Calix wrote:
On March 17 2017 10:07 darthfoley wrote:
On March 17 2017 09:19 Malongo wrote:
On March 17 2017 09:15 darthfoley wrote:
Salutations friends! May the odds be ever in our favor because we have such wonderful mods!

I hate that quote.
##vote darthfoley


Reading the thread enough to vote, but not posting anything of substance.

#LurkModeInitiated


Is Raynpelikoneet also scummy to you? If not, why?


About as null as possible. The few times I have played with rayn, he's been NK N0/1, so maybe this trolling style is a way of furthering himself in the game.

You equated his playstyle with Koshi's in the scum QT last game, and I can kinda see the similarities: brash, in your face, takes charge etc. He's also quite good at it, so I don't really understand the scum!rayn motivation to trolling early on, unless he just doesn't give a shit for some reason. I always feel like mafia is in the best position if they control the topic of conversation, which he hasn't even tried to do. He's also not helping town at all, so although I have some theorycraft of optimal mafia play, he's super null

On March 18 2017 00:36 darthfoley wrote:
The only part of rayn's post that I like is the Malongo read. I feel like his play so far has been forced

his play was forced but it was not mentioned and super duper null two hours earlier?
also the first of those two posts is "really null. [...a paragraph making no real claims...] again, really null." no me gusta

prob biased because i came at his filter more from the lens of "why is everyone saying he's scum" but hell i'd vote this


In your bolded sentence I was talking about Malongo's play feeling forced, not rayn's.

ok i will reconsider

....

relocated to "bad". between onegu and rels
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 18 2017 17:32 GMT
#684
On March 18 2017 19:49 Calix wrote:
Got excited when I saw Malongo post but all he did was claim. Didn't like his comment about it 'feeling like there are TPRs in the game because of activity' - I don't understand how he reached this conclusion or why activity/ lack of it = TPRs (mainly because I have no idea of how much of the thread Malongo has actually read).

Anyway, this game seems weirdly EU-centric in terms of activity despite there being a bunch of Muricans.

Also I did not like TW's latest posts. For the fact that he said that vets are too difficult to read (in response to them being town-read), his reasons for town-reading the 'non vets' are shitty. With regards to Eden, I don't see how talking about his claim or that question to disformation is AI. Meanwhile Malongo's posts look more like he's throwing out random points without explaining them which isn't the same thing as being 'fickle' (he hasn't changed his positions on anything afaik).

I think I'm skeptical of TW since I have no idea what he is trying to achieve with his posts aside from being a limp sock.

well no shit the vets were hard to read when we were 4 hours into the game and they had 10 posts each. and yea i am confident in my reads on new players
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 18 2017 17:33 GMT
#686
oh shit i forgot to change my vote
guess that's what we have onegu for. i don't really wanna end up on him by the end of the day though, i have some decision making to do
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 18 2017 17:46 GMT
#699
my trust of rayn has gone down to 1% since yesterday
his pushes just make me uncomfortable. especially the part where he calls malongo scum (which i am still really not seeing?) and even without him on the wagon it gets 5 votes. something is up
plus i see him winning this argument with onegu all of a sudden and ugh i need to go but it is all sorts of bad i am voting and then i am outie outie
trust me on this one. but maybe not too much
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 18 2017 21:24 GMT
#820
hi I'm back and I don't have time to catch up by deadline. it looks like everyone's on malongo by now and while I'd like to lynch someone worse I'm not crazy about him
someone who can explain any major new developments to me would be appreciated otherwise I will skim
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 18 2017 21:31 GMT
#824
I'll town df. he has passion (tm)
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 18 2017 21:38 GMT
#832
the thing that gets me is, how the hell is rayn so confident on a guy with half a page of filter including pregame? there is a lot wrong with this wagon
I want this lynch to not happen more strongly that I just said
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 18 2017 21:40 GMT
#834
On March 19 2017 06:36 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2017 13:58 Tumblewood wrote:
okay great filter sesh!
where i am at

town, i think
calix
disfo
eden
malongo
dbs
koshi?

needs more examination but their filters were kinda long
rayn
damdred
xata
koshi?

bad
rels
onegu

scummy
df


Can you explain how you want from thisto willing to lynch mal

willing-ish just then because plynches are never bad but the wagon is so sketchy that I am swinging back to no
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 18 2017 21:43 GMT
#839
I kinda don't wanna lynch rayn either though because who wants to be *that guy* who mislynches rayn d1?
I will keep my vote on him but I'll have to force myself to
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 18 2017 21:46 GMT
#845
rayn/damdred is the pair that makes the most sense to me given vote logic. malongo wagon formed easily without rayn's vote. and then koshi as a third or something? trying to make a whole team on d1 is a bad idea and I feel bad already
oooooh this could also mean mal town rayn town
hnnnnggnggngngnnfmd
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 18 2017 21:51 GMT
#853
On March 19 2017 06:45 Calix wrote:
I'm not CFDing with 15 minutes left, lol.

And to be frank, I'd rather pressure Rayn if Malongo flips town than yolo-lynch Rayn and deal with a crappy inactive slot in a sea of crappy inactive slots.

You know, because that will be more entertaining.

you're probably right
at deadline I think I'll just switch to malongo because shenanigans are almost as scary as regular bad lynches
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 18 2017 21:53 GMT
#856
if I had to decide right now, to answer df, it would be malongo who I don't see being useful for either side but tells us a lot more than rels or onegu. and then I'd lynch rayn if mal flips town
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 18 2017 21:54 GMT
#858
On March 19 2017 06:53 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2017 06:51 Tumblewood wrote:
On March 19 2017 06:45 Calix wrote:
I'm not CFDing with 15 minutes left, lol.

And to be frank, I'd rather pressure Rayn if Malongo flips town than yolo-lynch Rayn and deal with a crappy inactive slot in a sea of crappy inactive slots.

You know, because that will be more entertaining.

you're probably right
at deadline I think I'll just switch to malongo because shenanigans are almost as scary as regular bad lynches


Calling rayn-Tumble scumteam for post-game credit though just because of this post

noooo stop it I'm trying to break out of my bussing meta
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 18 2017 22:00 GMT
#871
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 18 2017 22:40 GMT
#889
On March 19 2017 07:33 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2017 06:55 Damdred wrote:
Just gut feeling by tumble I having a really strange eod here.

Sorta pushing off mal while saying he will be ok with lynching him but having him high in his town list while saying he's a plynch now.

Then want I to make the vote me v rayn. Makes no sense.

Show weird eod


Anyway...

Tweedledumb, pls explain yourself here, thx.

lynch probable but afk town on a bad wagon (rock) | me | lynch iffy but better town on a shenanigan (hard place)
and I kept changing my mind and eventually I kept my vote in the hard place
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 18 2017 22:46 GMT
#894
updated list

town
calix
df
eden
disfo
ritoky
xata

do not trust yet
onegu
koshi
rels aka true null
damdred

strong suspicion
rayn
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 18 2017 22:58 GMT
#900
On March 19 2017 07:48 Calix wrote:
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On March 19 2017 07:40 Tumblewood wrote:
On March 19 2017 07:33 Calix wrote:
On March 19 2017 06:55 Damdred wrote:
Just gut feeling by tumble I having a really strange eod here.

Sorta pushing off mal while saying he will be ok with lynching him but having him high in his town list while saying he's a plynch now.

Then want I to make the vote me v rayn. Makes no sense.

Show weird eod


Anyway...

Tweedledumb, pls explain yourself here, thx.

lynch probable but afk town on a bad wagon (rock) | me | lynch iffy but better town on a shenanigan (hard place)
and I kept changing my mind and eventually I kept my vote in the hard place


Right.

Would you kindly go into more detail on your Raynpelikoneet scum-read then? Would like to know more about this conflict of yours.

rayn more or less spawned a wagon on malongo that picked up a lot of steam despite rayn himself not being on it and there being no convincing case. I mean, the guy had 10 posts to work with, none of which were egregiously bad.
vote logic points to rayn and two others on the wagon (I suspect koshi/damdred but it is no sure thing).
rayn was obviously waaaay overconfident on his scumreads. more so than I believe he would be as town.
BUT
the wagon on him would inevitably be a shenanny in an afk thread, and he was by far a more active and potentially useful (if town) player than malongo. losing him as town would fuck us over way more. [in retrospect, the wagon would have had to be composed of people who I trust, so I overblew that concern.]

this is why the choice was difficult the end
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 18 2017 22:59 GMT
#903
and yes malongo as town affirms my theory. it moreso changes my opinion on Damdred though, who I believe is partners with rayn. third scum being within koshi/rels/onegu
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 18 2017 23:41 GMT
#916
I will explain the thought process just a little more and from then on I will not give a useful response
ok:

- before leaving, I got real suspicious of rayn
- when I came back, I saw malongo was still afk and I was like "a plynch isn't the end of the world"
- then I saw the votes and switched back to malongo as a bad wagon
- then (internally) I mulled over rayn as being useful compared to malongo, switched back to being but still on rayn
- I saw calix's post about shenannies being bad and decided not to go after rayn
- but I didn't switch at deadline because of basically what you guys have been yelling at me about
- after deadline I realized a shenanny was probably not that bad because most of the active players were town

I doubted myself okay
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 18 2017 23:45 GMT
#917
On March 19 2017 08:28 darthfoley wrote:
You guys make valid points but I also don't see the motivation for Tumble to come back into the thread near EoD when nothing of note was happening and half the game was afk. Why put your foot in it needlessly?

I also have a soft spot for EoD paranoia so maybe I'm being a little too understanding of his illogical play

I left for IRL reasons and came back when I did for IRL reasons. and when I was back I was not caught up before I posted so I didn't know nothing was happening
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 19 2017 00:02 GMT
#920
On March 19 2017 08:56 darthfoley wrote:
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On March 19 2017 08:45 Tumblewood wrote:
On March 19 2017 08:28 darthfoley wrote:
You guys make valid points but I also don't see the motivation for Tumble to come back into the thread near EoD when nothing of note was happening and half the game was afk. Why put your foot in it needlessly?

I also have a soft spot for EoD paranoia so maybe I'm being a little too understanding of his illogical play

I left for IRL reasons and came back when I did for IRL reasons. and when I was back I was not caught up before I posted so I didn't know nothing was happening


I should've clarified: I don't see the motivation for scum!tumble to come back when you did

eh fair enough
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 19 2017 23:32 GMT
#1265
where do I even start
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 19 2017 23:36 GMT
#1271
the thread is going at a million miles a second so let me just say I am not touching xata, rayn, calix or df for the rest of the game. CCs barred of course. and I will park my vote on rels until he plays the game
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 19 2017 23:40 GMT
#1278
also - why is eden suddenly 10000% scum? is it because rit cased him and then rit died?
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 19 2017 23:52 GMT
#1287
On March 20 2017 08:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On March 20 2017 08:40 Tumblewood wrote:
also - why is eden suddenly 10000% scum? is it because rit cased him and then rit died?

Why the fuck would ritoky die otherwise? That's the only thing he has said in the game. Unless you wanna argue Damdred is mafia because Damdred would shoot ritoky for sure.

ik, the kill doesn't make sense for anyone but eden, but it doesn't make sense for eden either. why would anyone think it would help eden?
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 19 2017 23:56 GMT
#1290
On March 20 2017 08:46 darthfoley wrote:
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On March 20 2017 08:36 Tumblewood wrote:
the thread is going at a million miles a second so let me just say I am not touching xata, rayn, calix or df for the rest of the game. CCs barred of course. and I will park my vote on rels until he plays the game


Also don't see why scum!TW would ever make this post clearing 4 people. Can you explain why you're not touching Xata/Calix/Me please

xata is in an obv town v town shitty tunnel argument with rayn, and also looked real good at EoD. calix has been townie all game - genuine, reactive, assertive, good tone - and you were very town during the night. I admit I like people who defend me for the reasons I'd defend me. I think I had other reasons but I don't remember them anymore.
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 20 2017 00:04 GMT
#1292
On March 20 2017 09:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2017 08:56 Tumblewood wrote:
On March 20 2017 08:46 darthfoley wrote:
On March 20 2017 08:36 Tumblewood wrote:
the thread is going at a million miles a second so let me just say I am not touching xata, rayn, calix or df for the rest of the game. CCs barred of course. and I will park my vote on rels until he plays the game


Also don't see why scum!TW would ever make this post clearing 4 people. Can you explain why you're not touching Xata/Calix/Me please

xata is in an obv town v town shitty tunnel argument with rayn, and also looked real good at EoD. calix has been townie all game - genuine, reactive, assertive, good tone - and you were very town during the night. I admit I like people who defend me for the reasons I'd defend me. I think I had other reasons but I don't remember them anymore.

Explain why Xatalos looked really good during the EoD?

levelheaded, inquisitive, had opinions, etc. you would have gotten a better response if you had asked me at EoD
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 20 2017 01:32 GMT
#1311
if eden really directed that NK then the other scummers must be passive as hell. or afk
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 20 2017 15:55 GMT
#1518
o.O there's an all vanilla setup?
if we assume rayn is jk or mafia in the vanilla setup and nothing else, then there is a 40% chance of jk and a 60% chance of mafia, but it's not worth lynching him because he will inevitably be revealed by LyLo or if we ever feel like outing our other blue

(this is probably not relevant, I am still on page 68)
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 20 2017 16:57 GMT
#1541
idk I'm looking through disfo and I think I like him again. his early d1 is still good and he wasn't as useless as I thought mid-d1 (probably the part I skipped because some of it is unfamiliar).
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 20 2017 19:30 GMT
#1583
On March 21 2017 01:58 Damdred wrote:
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On March 21 2017 01:57 Tumblewood wrote:
idk I'm looking through disfo and I think I like him again. his early d1 is still good and he wasn't as useless as I thought mid-d1 (probably the part I skipped because some of it is unfamiliar).


This is kinda a towny post.

Can you tell me who you think is scum just gut feels no need to get super indepth atm

it's not strong in anyone, more of a pool, but koshi/eden/former rels/onegu. I'm leaning town on you now.
also I don't trust rayn but don't want to lynch him because of the whole jk/scum thing
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 21 2017 04:52 GMT
#1625
On March 21 2017 10:41 AMG wrote:
Tumble, you floated past to remove your vote from me, but didnt want to discuss anything in the thread?

Talk to me about why you find Damdred town

that one is a feels read. just today I found myself saying "hey, that's a good post" a lot. much better than his d1
(and for most of today I have only been able to play for a couple minutes at a time. btw you are way cooler than afk!rels ever was and strong enough to town)
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 21 2017 04:56 GMT
#1627
the whole eden thing feels weird though. (a la df's scenario #5)
I don't remember people being crazy against eden, except for ritoky and damdred, who people also weren't crazy about. and then ritoky dies and immediately everyone assumes it was eden? not quite buying it. and if eden wanted to kill someone "threatening" it should have been damdred, who actually had a little clout. I'm gonna counterwagon unless I can see a real good argument against eden.
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 21 2017 05:02 GMT
#1628
goin wildcard boys
now let's see if Koshi is actually scum...
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 21 2017 05:07 GMT
#1629
ABORT ABORT
Koshi is town need to find someone else
maybe disfo...
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 21 2017 05:09 GMT
#1630
my objectivity is at an all time low + Show Spoiler +
not really
but I'm flipping disfo to scum. other pro is we get a nice interesting EoD
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 21 2017 05:21 GMT
#1632
On March 21 2017 14:15 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2017 14:09 Tumblewood wrote:
my objectivity is at an all time low + Show Spoiler +
not really
but I'm flipping disfo to scum. other pro is we get a nice interesting EoD


Explain why you TR koshi and are switching in disformation pls

I didn't like the eden wagon, so I voted Koshi. then I decided I should probably read Koshi's filter in case he was town, and his filter was good. not a real close examination but everything I saw (see: cared about) made me think he was town. so I decided maybe I was wrong on disfo. and I had kinda come off reading Koshi's very anti-disfo filter but in this read I started caring more about how boring he was. and he was boring, and I disliked him enough to vote him.
then I checked out eden again and it was actually pretty townie imo
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 21 2017 05:32 GMT
#1634
very strong town
calix
amg

other town
df
koshi
eden
xata

possible scummers
onegu
rayn
damdred
disfo
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 21 2017 06:14 GMT
#1638
On March 21 2017 15:08 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2017 14:32 Tumblewood wrote:
very strong town
calix
amg

other town
df
koshi
eden
xata

possible scummers
onegu
rayn
damdred
disfo


Uh.... How did Damdred, me and rayn end up lower than Eden, DF and AMG?

because I thought they were more town
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 21 2017 06:15 GMT
#1641
On March 21 2017 15:10 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2017 01:57 Tumblewood wrote:
idk I'm looking through disfo and I think I like him again. his early d1 is still good and he wasn't as useless as I thought mid-d1 (probably the part I skipped because some of it is unfamiliar).


Also how did disfo become scum when you only had good things to say about him today >.>

I changed my mind
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 21 2017 06:19 GMT
#1642
(if you think my answers are unhelpful it's because I think my reads are fine as they are and your questions are indirectly calling them ridiculous. also I do not have anything in the way of formal reasoning)
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 21 2017 14:13 GMT
#1731
On March 21 2017 23:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
He cannot be town in this game.

(yes he can)
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 21 2017 14:23 GMT
#1741
hmmmmm
siri, swap rayn and xata in my list
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 21 2017 14:26 GMT
#1743
you might be right but, even if you think it is, it's not quite a slam dunk case. it's just a decent one
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 21 2017 14:31 GMT
#1747
On March 21 2017 23:28 Koshi wrote:
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On March 21 2017 23:26 Tumblewood wrote:
you might be right but, even if you think it is, it's not quite a slam dunk case. it's just a decent one

The question is atm. Did we fall for the mafia trap with Eden. It kinda just felt right, I also would have voted Eden instantly D2 if it wasn't I felt my vote was better on rayn.

eden seems like the red herring to me. it was too easy and too sudden.
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 21 2017 18:42 GMT
#2005
rayn is 99% town, xata is either bad or scum
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 21 2017 18:43 GMT
#2006
On March 22 2017 03:41 disformation wrote:
like where the hell is eden?
though i have to admit this line of thinking didnt work very well on mal -.-

ah yes, the old "bring up a point and then discard it"
(eden would show up as either alignment)
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 21 2017 18:47 GMT
#2009
On March 22 2017 03:46 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2017 03:42 Tumblewood wrote:
rayn is 99% town, xata is either bad or scum


How so?

if you were neither of those things you would be acting differently. probably wouldn't have been arguing with rayn for so long
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 21 2017 18:49 GMT
#2013
On March 22 2017 03:48 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2017 03:47 Tumblewood wrote:
On March 22 2017 03:46 Xatalos wrote:
On March 22 2017 03:42 Tumblewood wrote:
rayn is 99% town, xata is either bad or scum


How so?

if you were neither of those things you would be acting differently. probably wouldn't have been arguing with rayn for so long


And rayn shitting on me forever makes him 99% town?

yes! you are more like 60%
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 21 2017 18:54 GMT
#2020
On March 22 2017 03:49 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2017 03:43 Tumblewood wrote:
On March 22 2017 03:41 disformation wrote:
like where the hell is eden?
though i have to admit this line of thinking didnt work very well on mal -.-

ah yes, the old "bring up a point and then discard it"
(eden would show up as either alignment)

aight. either try and get me lynched if you think i am scum or do something else productive.
wasting your vote and/or random shade throwing on me wont help you progress the game.

I see your point but I'm gonna ignore it
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 21 2017 19:05 GMT
#2029
rayn and xata I get that you wanna shit on each other but can u please tone it down
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Tumblewood
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United States3709 Posts
March 21 2017 19:12 GMT
#2036
rayn idk how to tell you this so you reconsider but you are super duper tunneled and most likely wrong
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 21 2017 19:21 GMT
#2043
the thing is: calix has played exceptionally townie all game, and you are discarding it for a small thing that infuriates you
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 21 2017 20:38 GMT
#2091
On March 22 2017 05:28 darthfoley wrote:
Like Eden is very likely mafia. He's done nothing since pressure was put on him. How the fuck could we let him live today

remember that time I put pressure on rels and he did nothing
remember that time you brought up where everyone pressured malongo and he did nothing
come on
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 21 2017 20:49 GMT
#2109
On March 22 2017 05:44 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2017 03:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Xatalos is mafia. Calix is mafia.
Scared. So scared. Koshi knows this.

rayn you better take a step back. I am 99% sure Calix is never mafia in this game. It is even extremely obvious to me.

finally, intelligent humans
now we can get some real discourse started again
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 21 2017 20:57 GMT
#2112
obv town:
calix
amg
rayn

probable town:
df
koshi

???
onegu
eden
...
xata
damdred
disfo
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 21 2017 21:07 GMT
#2118
On March 22 2017 06:01 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2017 05:57 Tumblewood wrote:
obv town:
calix
amg
rayn

probable town:
df
koshi

???
onegu
eden
...
xata
damdred
disfo


Question. If Xatalos is that low down, then why not vote for him when he's more likely to be lynched? disformation is clearly not dying today is my point.

And reasoning for Damdred? (have only skimmed your filter so may have missed this)

mostly PoE on damdred. deadline afkness does not help. and I will switch to xata if it comes down to it, but I am still holding out hope because the more rayn argues with him the less confident I am.
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 21 2017 21:07 GMT
#2119
On March 22 2017 06:05 Koshi wrote:
Hmm the Eden lynch is set in stone. TW/rayn/Damdred/Calix are lock town then. If 1 is mafia this is over. I can live with that.

why Damdred? I agree on all other counts but what from Damdred makes you so confident?
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 21 2017 21:15 GMT
#2126
On March 22 2017 06:08 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2017 06:07 Tumblewood wrote:
On March 22 2017 06:05 Koshi wrote:
Hmm the Eden lynch is set in stone. TW/rayn/Damdred/Calix are lock town then. If 1 is mafia this is over. I can live with that.

why Damdred? I agree on all other counts but what from Damdred makes you so confident?

call it a gut read I got after scumreading him at the start of the game.

hmmmm ok I think you're overconfident on that one but you haven't gone crazy
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 21 2017 21:15 GMT
#2128
On March 22 2017 06:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
##unvote
##vote Eden1892


what the fuck?
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 21 2017 21:21 GMT
#2137
On March 22 2017 06:16 Koshi wrote:
I am currently busy with money stuff. Going to start playing on the stock market. And with playing I mean I am going to buy a shitton of 1 stock that should be a safe bet. (max -10% on short term and potential +20% on longer term) But most likely will just do nothing too crazy and will net me 2% each year except the fucking 0,3% I get due to banks are fucking criminals.

So if anybody has great advice I can use it.

invest in my dragon eggs. they are getting 20% more clicks this quarter than the last
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 21 2017 21:25 GMT
#2143
On March 22 2017 06:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Xatalos, Damdred/Calix, idk, maybe onegu then, or df. Idk.
Xatalos is the only one i am sure about and the chainsaw makes me think Calix too. Maybe Eden is mafia? Idk.

What i do know is that you're not mafia, Adam is not mafia, Tumble is not mafia and disformation is not mafia.

who is adam
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 21 2017 21:29 GMT
#2149
I am so confused why is everyone back on eden
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Tumblewood
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United States3709 Posts
March 21 2017 21:35 GMT
#2152
cop does not get shot when there is a claimed jk who is also named rayn
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Tumblewood
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United States3709 Posts
March 21 2017 21:39 GMT
#2156
On March 22 2017 06:36 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2017 06:35 Tumblewood wrote:
cop does not get shot when there is a claimed jk who is also named rayn


Say calix and xata are town. What's the point in shooting rayn?

so that a basically-confirmed townie and power role is no longer a part of the town
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 21 2017 21:40 GMT
#2158
On March 22 2017 06:38 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2017 06:36 Damdred wrote:
On March 22 2017 06:35 Tumblewood wrote:
cop does not get shot when there is a claimed jk who is also named rayn


Say calix and xata are town. What's the point in shooting rayn?


Yeah, I'd at least roleblock him if I was scum AMG or something.

ah true roleblocker. maybe not then. probably would kill Koshi or someone
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 21 2017 22:09 GMT
#2190
evidently btdt's cs game was not as exciting this time
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 21 2017 22:10 GMT
#2191
but I guess that clears up the trouble I had finding a third mafia member
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 21 2017 22:12 GMT
#2196
On March 22 2017 07:10 Calix wrote:
Hello Tumblewood. How have your reads changed in light of this flip?

makes it easier with the 3-scum incompatibilities.
for cred the team is damdred/disfo, but maybe it's xata or onegu. not really looking at anyone else at this point besides, as a stretch, df.
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 22 2017 01:02 GMT
#2242
On March 22 2017 07:14 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2017 07:12 Tumblewood wrote:
On March 22 2017 07:10 Calix wrote:
Hello Tumblewood. How have your reads changed in light of this flip?

makes it easier with the 3-scum incompatibilities.
for cred the team is damdred/disfo, but maybe it's xata or onegu. not really looking at anyone else at this point besides, as a stretch, df.


why me?

been a while since i reevaluated you / reaffirmed you were town
On March 22 2017 07:15 darthfoley wrote:
How long are we gonna let TW get away with reads changing every two seconds, and defending everything based off of gut reads and "vibes?"

but actually

for as long as you believe in meta
(sometimes i do make cases but i hate it)
and i do not like how this post could be an argument but is instead a complaint
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 22 2017 02:36 GMT
#2244
On March 22 2017 10:47 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2017 10:02 Tumblewood wrote:
On March 22 2017 07:14 darthfoley wrote:
On March 22 2017 07:12 Tumblewood wrote:
On March 22 2017 07:10 Calix wrote:
Hello Tumblewood. How have your reads changed in light of this flip?

makes it easier with the 3-scum incompatibilities.
for cred the team is damdred/disfo, but maybe it's xata or onegu. not really looking at anyone else at this point besides, as a stretch, df.


why me?

been a while since i reevaluated you / reaffirmed you were town
On March 22 2017 07:15 darthfoley wrote:
How long are we gonna let TW get away with reads changing every two seconds, and defending everything based off of gut reads and "vibes?"

but actually

for as long as you believe in meta
(sometimes i do make cases but i hate it)
and i do not like how this post could be an argument but is instead a complaint


Perhaps you should try casing the next person instead of giving a gut feeling they're town *cough Eden cough*

A complaint and an argument are not mutually exclusive. I simply feel like you and Onegu have had very low bars set for the two of you this entire game and I don't understand why

bcoz im rly good thats why ... !!
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 22 2017 05:09 GMT
#2253
thoughts on all some players with reasoning:

disformation - has these huge walls of text. in some places he seems to show real conviction, but it's fleeting. i am conflicted because it seems like a lot of work for a scummer to put it but mostly he writes long posts that don't seem to have the intention of ever being read. leaning scum + Show Spoiler +
i know you're going to ask what that means and i ask you figure it out yourself

damdred - leaning back towards town because i remember (though i could not find it in his filter) the part where he sees eden's post and he's like "this is bad but i don't have time to explain why yet" which is something scum rarely does, usually preferring to just wait until they have the case (or at least, i think so). then again he has not impressed me in any respect this game so he is not off the hook yet.

onegu - objectively bad, but that is to be expected. there are some things i have seen in his filter which are either so out of left field or so 'little' (like, "i expect this player to be yelling at me more") that i don't think scum1gu could come up with it in multiple instances.

darthfoley - this quote & associated posts + Show Spoiler +
Sorry for thinking that tumblewood's paranoia and generally EoD play isnt purely mafia indicative when I've done the same thing myself?
make me real nice n happy inside and it warms my heart to think a player might play with such a townie agenda. (this really is the reason i townread df so hard during n1 and early d2) other than that i might describe him as indignant, which i consider a townie trait. but when he is not being indignant he is quite floaty and "this is weird" (vs "this makes X scum"). still, df is probably town.

xatalos - when not antagonizing someone or another he does not post any quality analysis. fortunately for him i think shitfighting is quite a townie thing to do so he is ???

help me i have too many townreads bye
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 23 2017 04:19 GMT
#2448
to rayn and whoever else switched to eden at EoD [despite supporting the xata wagon and giving no indication earlier of wanting to switch], why did you do that
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 23 2017 04:43 GMT
#2449
looking through df again and writing him off for hopefully the last time
also 0% chance he is with xata. no one drinks their scum partner's koolaid
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 23 2017 21:24 GMT
#2505
hi, not cop
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 23 2017 21:37 GMT
#2507
On March 23 2017 14:27 AMG wrote:
In your last post thought Xalatos was possibly townie with a few question marks.

Now you're trying to solve the game using Xata as confirmed scum to find the 3rd?

no. but if he is scum df is not. drinking the xata kool aid is a direct quote from his filter that imo makes them never buddies
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 23 2017 21:38 GMT
#2508
On March 24 2017 06:29 AMG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2017 06:24 Tumblewood wrote:
hi, not cop


Care to revisit my question to you from yesterday, I'd like to know how your brain works

wow I am a mind reader
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 23 2017 21:46 GMT
#2510
On March 24 2017 06:37 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2017 14:27 AMG wrote:
In your last post thought Xalatos was possibly townie with a few question marks.

Now you're trying to solve the game using Xata as confirmed scum to find the 3rd?

no. but if he is scum df is not. drinking the xata kool aid is a direct quote from his filter that imo makes them never buddies

also there was something in disfo's filter -- the red riding hood thing -- that probably also excludes him from being with xata.
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 24 2017 02:52 GMT
#2537
On March 24 2017 10:54 AMG wrote:
The thing thats got me not wanting to immediately kill Xalatos is that I cant see him allowing a night kill on Ritoky.

That to me says AFK/inactive scum team


who can you see doing that though?
out of disfo/damdred/onegu/me, which two are gonna be okay with letting eden NK rit?
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 24 2017 16:43 GMT
#2623
baaaaaa
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 24 2017 21:13 GMT
#2638
On March 25 2017 06:09 Xatalos wrote:
Let's hope it is that easy and it's something like Onegu+Tumble.

nice !!!
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 24 2017 21:52 GMT
#2642
it would be real nice if onegu flipped scum, because then someone would get to clear me for certain (pssst)
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 24 2017 22:10 GMT
#2647
fuck I needed that
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 24 2017 22:15 GMT
#2651
why does anyone think amg is actually a possibility
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 24 2017 22:17 GMT
#2653
anyway I wanna lynch damdred, disfo, or xata in any order going forward
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 25 2017 01:06 GMT
#2664
On March 25 2017 07:50 Damdred wrote:
I'm not sure why that list exactly tumble?

Explain with more than a sentence for each.
Xata why aren't you more suspicious of say koshi here instead of just defaulting back to amg and tumble?

how about i explain all of my townreads with more than a sentence each
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 25 2017 01:18 GMT
#2665
rayn and df - duh
koshi - really overconfident at points + Show Spoiler [see here] +
On March 20 2017 07:46 Koshi wrote:
Classic case of mafia being overconfident and making a mistake.
; argues with the intent of being read (see: no fucking huge posts); tries to get in the scum team's head in weird ways
amg - ABORT i've only read 1 page of his filter and i already wanna lynch him (case incoming, or maybe at day)
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 25 2017 01:39 GMT
#2667
amg comes into the game and plays referee
+ Show Spoiler [see here] +

On March 20 2017 21:07 AMG wrote:
If you've described something/someone as "weird" in this game, which several of you have, remove that shitty word from your vocabulary and actually explain WHAT about them is unusual.

Pet peeve. Also shitty mafia buzzword because they're not creative enough to explain a feeling beyond "weird".

On March 20 2017 22:32 AMG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2017 22:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You're so fucking mafia it hurts.


OK, stop trying to convince the mafia hes mafia. You're growing this thread faster than I can read it.

Explain to me slowly, as if i were a little child, why he is mafia, preferably not using the most recent claim situation... since I have not caught up to the part where people are claiming.

On March 23 2017 20:49 AMG wrote:
Koshi, flooding the thread with quotes does nothing but pad out your already bloated filter.

Make a coherent case, fit it in one post.

On March 21 2017 09:09 AMG wrote:
If you think its a bad post, you dont need to hide that in brackets. Youre welcome to your opinion, wrong as it may be.

Youre damn right im trying to derail this lynch, ive said I find Eden townish, and I see far too many people on it that are labelling each other as scum. Stop voting with your scum reads, thats friggen stupid.


Take a step back and assume for a moment that im not scum, even though I've said I dont like your day 1 actions. Can you see a townie making this post? Give me a chance to put my thoughts into the thread.

Or if youre scum you can just keep shutting down everything I post, and Ill take that as a sign we're heading to a shit fight.


(this is not a scum thing exactly but why so much explaining what he is going to do before he does it?)
also argues staunchly that eden is town but anticipates a scum flip anyway. this is the only thing he argues confidently about and he's not very confident when he's not arguing
+ Show Spoiler [you know what] +

On March 21 2017 21:03 AMG wrote:
Back onto the problem at hand.

I'll admit, I have not pushed anyone with any great fervour today, I am still finding my place in this game.

I still think this Eden wagon is riddled with disease, however I am not making much headway in convincing anyone of this and my efforts doubly fall flat when the man himself is nowhere to be seen for 36 hours.

On March 21 2017 23:13 AMG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2017 23:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
There are too many mafia in this game.


I've either spent the entire day defending an AFK townie from a scum-controlled town, or ive spent the entire day defending an AFK scummer from a bunch of townies that clearly have the game figured out a lot better than I do.

Either way, tomorrow is going to suck a tonne of ass.


ALSO it helps explain the ritoky nk, at least a little bit. like eden freaked out, rels was afk, and the third scum was a pushover
...
this is all i found. i expected better tbh. but his first page is really bad and i'm desperate
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 25 2017 02:36 GMT
#2670
On March 25 2017 10:52 AMG wrote:
Lets go over this then.

The first bracket is, as you've said, not alignment indicative. Largely speaks to my playstyle and how I expect/want others to play.

I did staunchly argue that eden was town, I don't hide from that fact, it was a shit read.

How is a lack of confidence when i'm not arguing a sign of being scum? I had a shit read and large portion of the game in my mind had to be reassessed.


So... why are you desperate?

because I'm two days into the game and I still have no idea who's scum
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 25 2017 02:37 GMT
#2671
On March 25 2017 11:09 AMG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2017 13:52 Tumblewood wrote:
On March 21 2017 10:41 AMG wrote:
Tumble, you floated past to remove your vote from me, but didnt want to discuss anything in the thread?

Talk to me about why you find Damdred town

that one is a feels read. just today I found myself saying "hey, that's a good post" a lot. much better than his d1
(and for most of today I have only been able to play for a couple minutes at a time. btw you are way cooler than afk!rels ever was and strong enough to town)




You moved me into your "obvious town" at around this post.... when my filter was exactly 1 page and 2 posts long.

Now you're making the argument that my first page of filter is "really bad".

What gives?

idk, probably a lot of head nodding and not enough actual reading
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 25 2017 02:41 GMT
#2672
maybe I could just go with the "never wrong on TvT arguments" theory and lynch amg and damdred. seems like a mighty easy play
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 25 2017 04:13 GMT
#2674
On March 25 2017 13:02 AMG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2017 11:41 Tumblewood wrote:
maybe I could just go with the "never wrong on TvT arguments" theory and lynch amg and damdred. seems like a mighty easy play


There's doing what's easy, and then there's doing what's right. While that might be an easy play, it's certainly not the right one.

what's easy has about a 20% chance of being right, and rereading all the filters and making a reasoned case has about a 25% chance of being right and also takes several more hours of work. I dunno, I think the best route is just the lazy one with reactions to new events
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 25 2017 06:58 GMT
#2677
I made a small breakthrough
amg and xata are not together because amg basically made himself look bad for no reward if they are partners. ergo they are not.
the only person I really think might be with xata is damdred, who actually looks pretty decent by himself. so maybe xata is town
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 25 2017 07:25 GMT
#2678
in order, the scumteams that make the most sense by association are:
damdred/disfo > amg/disfo > damdred/xata > amg/damdred > disfo/xata > amg/xata > any team with Koshi > any team with rayn or df
and I think damdred/disfo might be a winner
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 25 2017 17:07 GMT
#2781
q&a with tumblewood
+ Show Spoiler [disfo] +
On March 25 2017 18:12 disformation wrote:
hmmmm... maybe i should use more spoilers in my big posts to make them more readable

good idea

+ Show Spoiler [rayn] +
On March 25 2017 18:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2017 16:25 Tumblewood wrote:
in order, the scumteams that make the most sense by association are:
damdred/disfo > amg/disfo > damdred/xata > amg/damdred > disfo/xata > amg/xata > any team with Koshi > any team with rayn or df
and I think damdred/disfo might be a winner

What is "any team with rayn or df"?

any team with you or df on it doesn't make sense

+ Show Spoiler [xata] +
On March 25 2017 19:44 Xatalos wrote:
Tumble: who do you think would be the "pushover" scum in your theory for why ritoky was killed? I like the theory otherwise, but I don't really see who would just let Eden control the kill.. When he was barely even playing by N1.

idk. i don't remember who was there at deadline but i don't expect it from anyone who was there at the time. i will have to check who was there and who was afk

+ Show Spoiler [xata] +
On March 25 2017 19:50 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2017 11:41 Tumblewood wrote:
maybe I could just go with the "never wrong on TvT arguments" theory and lynch amg and damdred. seems like a mighty easy play


What's this theory? Thread shitfights are always TvT? >.> I'll admit I've never participated in one as scum, but I've seen cases of that happening. Me (town) vs rayn (scum) for example haha

it's a very specific kind of shitfight. blind, righteous, and annoying. i historically have not been wrong in calling those and i don't want to start now

+ Show Spoiler [xata] +
On March 25 2017 20:00 Xatalos wrote:
Like I think of a reason anyone could be scum - and I come up with 2 reasons for being town........ sucks

hahahaha feel my pain
On March 25 2017 20:38 Xatalos wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Tumbleweed, the hero we deserve - not always in the clearest state of mind, but occasionally coming through with the revelations we needed

wait did i do something important

+ Show Spoiler [xata] +
On March 25 2017 21:01 Xatalos wrote:
I think he was referring to the theory of GF Onegu though? By saying "if he's scum". Doesn't really make any sense with GF Tumble

if onegu flipped rb rayn could have jailed me and if the nk went through i would be cleared. if onegu flipped gf rayn could jail me and df could check me and either kp wouldn't go through or i'd have a green check. i felt pretty smart when i figured that one out. in retrospect it would allow scum to frame me though if they felt frisky

thank you this is the end of the q&a
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 25 2017 17:12 GMT
#2783
On March 26 2017 02:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2017 02:06 Xatalos wrote:
Are you sure? The way I understood it, actions can't be changed during the silent period

What's the point of the silent period then? :o

so btdt can finish his cs game
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 25 2017 23:49 GMT
#2890
On March 26 2017 06:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
did you read anything i said last page? :D
Tumble.

the part about you jailing me? yeah
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 26 2017 05:47 GMT
#2891
since thread is dead I will post my plan of action and you can yell at me if you want
since we have 3 lynches to hit 2 scum, we lynch amg, disfo, damdred, in that order. if xata and koshi are town (most likely pair imo) then we win. if we wrote off one of those two too early we lose, but that's a chance we have to take
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 26 2017 06:45 GMT
#2893
On March 26 2017 15:19 AMG wrote:
Its 5v2 right now. We get 2 lynches and if we managed to hit 1, we buy ourselves another.

I'd rather not lynch down a list.

Tumble, tell me your updated reads on disinformation and damdred. I'd like to know if anything has changed since D2.


we can lynch down a list of the list is 3 people. if the scumteam is within those 3 we win and if it's not we lose, no matter what order we go
and I said in that order because I think Damdred has the best chance of proving his towniness for sure given some extra days, and also the best chance of being town.
since I did the association thing I have eliminated a few pairs involving disfo/damdred but looking at their filters is like reading the tax code
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 26 2017 07:39 GMT
#2897
On March 26 2017 15:49 AMG wrote:
Why are you so resigned to ruling out Koshi and Xata? If they're scum, saying "well played they win" is complete ass, the game is only half way done.

what makes you think the list is absolutely not changing for the rest of the game? it's not likely to, but that is how townreads work
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 26 2017 07:42 GMT
#2898
words, as intended: guys I think we win if we do this. (so let's do it)
words, as interpreted by amg: ahhh, made a list. now I can kick back, relax, and change nothing ever

if you disagree with the list that's one thing, but stop arguing over the very idea of a list
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 27 2017 15:52 GMT
#3020
I am ok with lynching disfo today. but only once I find out what rayn might know that I don't.
rayn, why is amg town? also why is koshi scum?
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 27 2017 21:14 GMT
#3203
aight I got 45 minutes here and from skimming every other page all I can say is y'all are dumbasses
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 27 2017 21:15 GMT
#3205
one year ago I could not have imagined myself saying this but I think Koshi is the only competent person in this game
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 27 2017 21:22 GMT
#3217
so some of you decided you want to, against all reason, lynch Koshi?
and decided that my play has become apathetic or dropped off or some shit when ON D3 you were practically praising me for making some dumbass association posts?
and xata, get your own reads, for god's sake. rayn's aren't even good.
damdred/disfo, as a team will always make sense because the double bus is always a possibility on the already insanely bus-heavy TL meta. amg/damdred and amg/disfo you could argue don't make sense but come on the best thing amg has done to make those teams unrealistic was defend a scum. that sort of play is what I'm actively trying to add to my scum meta.
I will not even entertain the argument that none of the teams inside the 3 scummiest people in the game make sense, and I sure as hell will not tolerate some dumbass Koshi association team in a world where decent associations exist that do not involve the towniest filter in the game.
ok how many pages have you made in the last 9 minutes
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 27 2017 21:23 GMT
#3221
On March 28 2017 06:16 AMG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2017 05:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I really really don't understand why people ignore all the townie things AMG + Damdred have done and even if they think they are not townie they can't come up with something reasonable in "this is how it makes sense as mafia", they just take some other things and argue it makes people mafia. And no, being "disinterested" as in not posting much is not why someone is mafia. Like people are fucking arguing AMG is mafia because he "hard-defended Eden" and then also mafia because "he hasn't done anything in this game". Like what the fuck? Thsoe things are 100% mutually exclusive. Especially Koshi is trying to have it both ways.


Rayn, you've pointed out here exactly why Koshi is scum, hes ignoring ALL of the townie things i've done.

His attacks on me are just so one-eyed and blind.

I know when i'm being attacked by a townie, and this isn't it.

Koshi needs to die.

(ignoring the fact that townies tunnel all the goddamn time, and that is exactly how it happens)
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 27 2017 21:26 GMT
#3228
fine disfo. here you go. tl;dr there is always a team that makes sense by association out of damdred/amg/disfo (duh double bus always works), and Koshi has the obvious best filter in the game, so stop implicating him in shitty association reads.
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 27 2017 21:27 GMT
#3233
On March 28 2017 06:24 Damdred wrote:
Why are you so upset tw when your scum read disf is getting lynched...

the worry is that the day would not end like that
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 27 2017 21:28 GMT
#3237
does he have 4+ votes though? because if he does then never mind on the whole town is dumbasses thing
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 27 2017 21:31 GMT
#3245
On March 28 2017 06:29 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2017 06:27 Tumblewood wrote:
On March 28 2017 06:24 Damdred wrote:
Why are you so upset tw when your scum read disf is getting lynched...

the worry is that the day would not end like that


Then why are you worried about it when you aren't even voting your scum read and can you know make it so not shaky?

WHOOPS accidentally the wagons are 4v3 with xata willing to defect, even after I switched
looks like it really wasn't shaky!
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 27 2017 21:32 GMT
#3249
On March 28 2017 06:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Tumble was mad at Koshi being lynched. Not disformation.

rayn do you still think Koshi is likely scum?
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 27 2017 21:34 GMT
#3252
I was mad cause I was caught up to like 155 when it seemed like imminently everyone was lynching him...
and I'm still a little mad, but on the inside
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 27 2017 21:40 GMT
#3265
On March 28 2017 06:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Tumblewood why does your vote always (except for here) ends up on someone completely random person?

it doesn't?
I could see d2 as random, but d3 was pretty duh, now is pretty duh, and d1 was the second-biggest wagon. so how are they always random?
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 27 2017 21:43 GMT
#3272
On March 28 2017 06:42 Xatalos wrote:
Well, I feel it has to be exactly disfo+Tumble or then we're lynching town...

in a world where disfo/damdred double bus is an impossible, mind-blowing possibility
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 27 2017 21:44 GMT
#3273
On March 28 2017 06:43 disformation wrote:
though tw's reason to lynch amg, was just taht list thing right?

well, no, I had a case and shit. why do you think he was on the list?
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 27 2017 21:46 GMT
#3277
On March 28 2017 06:45 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2017 06:43 Tumblewood wrote:
On March 28 2017 06:42 Xatalos wrote:
Well, I feel it has to be exactly disfo+Tumble or then we're lynching town...

in a world where disfo/damdred double bus is an impossible, mind-blowing possibility


You mean Damdred and Eden double bussed each other, then disfo and Damdred went for the same plan right afterwards

am I crazy? if both scummates bus one partner that's a double bus, right? because that exact play happens all the time, and makes total sense for disfo and damdred d2.
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 27 2017 21:49 GMT
#3279
ok so imagine the same case but I don't call it a double bus
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 27 2017 21:57 GMT
#3293
not too late to shenanny onto amg eh
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 27 2017 21:57 GMT
#3296
NO XATA WHAT ARE YOU DOING
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 27 2017 21:58 GMT
#3297
xata explain me waffling on rayn d1
come on I'm trying everything I got here
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 27 2017 21:58 GMT
#3299
you dumbasses are going to have to figure it out with 0 mislynches then
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 27 2017 21:59 GMT
#3301
On March 28 2017 06:58 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2017 06:57 Tumblewood wrote:
NO XATA WHAT ARE YOU DOING


Hm?

I thought you were voting me? and that was why rayn flipped out?
you're not?
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 27 2017 21:59 GMT
#3302
fuck prayer
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 27 2017 22:00 GMT
#3304
prayer quickly
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 27 2017 22:13 GMT
#3321
gg.
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
April 02 2017 23:54 GMT
#3654
gg and gj all!
not my best game. I spent the whole time floundering trying to make something of the filters of all the vets, but alas they were too long and too mundane.
I had fun while I was alive, and I still think my lynch was pretty stupid but in retrospect I was way more waffly than usual. also Koshi ninja-voting me might have had something to do with it (probably not your best option, though maybe salvageable if you had chosen to kill xata instead)
gj especially to all the townies who carried me (and congrats to Damdred on twins!)
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
April 02 2017 23:54 GMT
#3655
On April 03 2017 06:24 disformation wrote:
also think town overall played pretty good this game.

my personal goal is to play like tw next game.

o.O why would you do that to yourself
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