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On March 17 2017 08:02 Calix wrote: If you are just going to be useless then can you kindly fuck off and not post? It would be ten times more helpful since you've probably hit your minimum post requirements. i like this ridiculous overreaction. calix is town for now also i like deepblue this is a nice fickle one too | ||
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On March 17 2017 08:54 Damdred wrote: As for your reads Calix yeah I agree. Koshi, xata, calix, deep, damdred is a strong town base right now. Deeps follow up postings (while I strongly disagree what he says makes me scum), have been pretty thoughtful. And pretty good. ik damdred likes town circles but come on this is too early to read vets calix and deepblue are eh but who am i to criticize that. just xata/koshi/damdy/rayn are way too early to read | ||
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well i had just said i like them (and i do) | ||
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hopefully a throwaway circle though? | ||
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On March 17 2017 11:50 Onegu wrote: I think there is a problem with my role PM... It says VT. Must be some sort of mistake for me to roll VT again. I think hosts are just trolling me. DUDE epic nice! | ||
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On March 17 2017 15:10 Xatalos wrote: Rayn, in town circle? Hasn't he been just null/scum read by everyone? What were your reads on me/Koski/Damdred then? ya but he's still too early to read I was null on all of them. there are reasons I could claim scum/town on one of them but they are pretty lame | ||
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On March 17 2017 23:25 Calix wrote: Since the dead pigeon outside my window has done more scum-hunting than you have, don't hold back then. Going "it's too early to read XYZ" is anti-town. fuck that I'm sick of reads based on like 10 posts from someone who can easily look decent for as long as xata did when Damdred TRed him (and he wasn't that townie imo). it seemed like it should have been a throwaway read and then it wasn't | ||
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On March 17 2017 23:52 raynpelikoneet wrote: This isn't a good argument. If disformation is scum regardless of how widely townread Calix is he has to go into the argument with him because Calix is calling him mafia. Why wouldn't disformation go into argument with Calix if Calix is mafia and he is town? That would mean that Calix' argument is bs so NOT going into an argument with him makes no sense. this is based off of the assumption that calix is town (duh, anyone so anal is probably town). also scum can totally ignore the accusation. it wasn't exactly threatening and the omgus defense is mostly a last resort. seeing two people go at it without interacting with the rest of the thread is a tell I will always call | ||
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brush it off or do that stupid "you're wrong but dw I won't scumread you" thing | ||
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On March 18 2017 00:56 darthfoley wrote: can you summarize your thoughts on the game atm: lynch trains/reads/no lynch circle for you, etc? calix & disfo are town I liked dbs but that read's back to null again after a disappointing continuation malongo is a slight town lean I like rayn and xata by gut buuut I can't explain why Damdred is ok? Koshi too no one who is actually playing is striking me as scummy so I might just park my vote on onegu | ||
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On March 18 2017 01:22 raynpelikoneet wrote: Explain to me why you think i am town when i have called out people you are townreading and you said you cannot make a good read on vets so far? ah yes I forgot that part where townies normally agree with me and like me! you are saying smart shit, sometimes, and actively hunting, mostly, but I have no evidence so I am still cautious | ||
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On March 18 2017 02:03 raynpelikoneet wrote: Because Tumble, you stated that: - Vets are too hard to read at this point - People who rayn is calling scum i think are town How do you come to conclsuion i am leaning town? magic + Show Spoiler + the EXTREMELY ELABORATE thought process is basically that. "oh, hm rayn's pushing for info. that seems pretty reasonable, he might be town" also I stated vets were too hard to read when we were 4 hours into the game | ||
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On March 17 2017 09:22 darthfoley wrote: actually nvm the op doesn't include letters regarding the setups. so maybe town points for trying to clarify what Eden meant? boooooooooooo + Show Spoiler + just lame. not super substantial but i don't see why anyone would care enough to make this post On March 17 2017 10:14 darthfoley wrote: About as null as possible. The few times I have played with rayn, he's been NK N0/1, so maybe this trolling style is a way of furthering himself in the game. You equated his playstyle with Koshi's in the scum QT last game, and I can kinda see the similarities: brash, in your face, takes charge etc. He's also quite good at it, so I don't really understand the scum!rayn motivation to trolling early on, unless he just doesn't give a shit for some reason. I always feel like mafia is in the best position if they control the topic of conversation, which he hasn't even tried to do. He's also not helping town at all, so although I have some theorycraft of optimal mafia play, he's super null On March 18 2017 00:36 darthfoley wrote: The only part of rayn's post that I like is the Malongo read. I feel like his play so far has been forced his play was forced but it was not mentioned and super duper null two hours earlier? also the first of those two posts is "really null. [...a paragraph making no real claims...] again, really null." no me gusta prob biased because i came at his filter more from the lens of "why is everyone saying he's scum" but hell i'd vote this | ||
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On March 18 2017 00:17 Eden1892 wrote: Why are you taking my claim at face value, disfo? but also her tone is generally impatient. the vibes are good | ||
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where i am at town, i think calix disfo eden malongo dbs koshi? needs more examination but their filters were kinda long rayn damdred xata koshi? bad rels onegu scummy df | ||
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On March 18 2017 14:01 darthfoley wrote: In your bolded sentence I was talking about Malongo's play feeling forced, not rayn's. ok i will reconsider .... relocated to "bad". between onegu and rels | ||
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On March 18 2017 19:49 Calix wrote: Got excited when I saw Malongo post but all he did was claim. Didn't like his comment about it 'feeling like there are TPRs in the game because of activity' - I don't understand how he reached this conclusion or why activity/ lack of it = TPRs (mainly because I have no idea of how much of the thread Malongo has actually read). Anyway, this game seems weirdly EU-centric in terms of activity despite there being a bunch of Muricans. Also I did not like TW's latest posts. For the fact that he said that vets are too difficult to read (in response to them being town-read), his reasons for town-reading the 'non vets' are shitty. With regards to Eden, I don't see how talking about his claim or that question to disformation is AI. Meanwhile Malongo's posts look more like he's throwing out random points without explaining them which isn't the same thing as being 'fickle' (he hasn't changed his positions on anything afaik). I think I'm skeptical of TW since I have no idea what he is trying to achieve with his posts aside from being a limp sock. well no shit the vets were hard to read when we were 4 hours into the game and they had 10 posts each. and yea i am confident in my reads on new players | ||
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guess that's what we have onegu for. i don't really wanna end up on him by the end of the day though, i have some decision making to do | ||
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his pushes just make me uncomfortable. especially the part where he calls malongo scum (which i am still really not seeing?) and even without him on the wagon it gets 5 votes. something is up plus i see him winning this argument with onegu all of a sudden and ugh i need to go but it is all sorts of bad i am voting and then i am outie outie trust me on this one. but maybe not too much | ||
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someone who can explain any major new developments to me would be appreciated otherwise I will skim | ||
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I want this lynch to not happen more strongly that I just said | ||
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On March 19 2017 06:36 Damdred wrote: Can you explain how you want from thisto willing to lynch mal willing-ish just then because plynches are never bad but the wagon is so sketchy that I am swinging back to no | ||
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I will keep my vote on him but I'll have to force myself to | ||
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oooooh this could also mean mal town rayn town hnnnnggnggngngnnfmd | ||
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On March 19 2017 06:45 Calix wrote: I'm not CFDing with 15 minutes left, lol. And to be frank, I'd rather pressure Rayn if Malongo flips town than yolo-lynch Rayn and deal with a crappy inactive slot in a sea of crappy inactive slots. You know, because that will be more entertaining. you're probably right at deadline I think I'll just switch to malongo because shenanigans are almost as scary as regular bad lynches | ||
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On March 19 2017 06:53 Xatalos wrote: Calling rayn-Tumble scumteam for post-game credit though just because of this post ![]() noooo stop it I'm trying to break out of my bussing meta | ||
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On March 19 2017 07:33 Calix wrote: Anyway... Tweedledumb, pls explain yourself here, thx. lynch probable but afk town on a bad wagon (rock) | me | lynch iffy but better town on a shenanigan (hard place) and I kept changing my mind and eventually I kept my vote in the hard place | ||
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town calix df eden disfo ritoky xata do not trust yet onegu koshi rels aka true null damdred strong suspicion rayn | ||
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On March 19 2017 07:48 Calix wrote: Right. Would you kindly go into more detail on your Raynpelikoneet scum-read then? Would like to know more about this conflict of yours. rayn more or less spawned a wagon on malongo that picked up a lot of steam despite rayn himself not being on it and there being no convincing case. I mean, the guy had 10 posts to work with, none of which were egregiously bad. vote logic points to rayn and two others on the wagon (I suspect koshi/damdred but it is no sure thing). rayn was obviously waaaay overconfident on his scumreads. more so than I believe he would be as town. BUT the wagon on him would inevitably be a shenanny in an afk thread, and he was by far a more active and potentially useful (if town) player than malongo. losing him as town would fuck us over way more. [in retrospect, the wagon would have had to be composed of people who I trust, so I overblew that concern.] this is why the choice was difficult the end | ||
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ok: - before leaving, I got real suspicious of rayn - when I came back, I saw malongo was still afk and I was like "a plynch isn't the end of the world" - then I saw the votes and switched back to malongo as a bad wagon - then (internally) I mulled over rayn as being useful compared to malongo, switched back to being but still on rayn - I saw calix's post about shenannies being bad and decided not to go after rayn - but I didn't switch at deadline because of basically what you guys have been yelling at me about - after deadline I realized a shenanny was probably not that bad because most of the active players were town I doubted myself okay | ||
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On March 19 2017 08:28 darthfoley wrote: You guys make valid points but I also don't see the motivation for Tumble to come back into the thread near EoD when nothing of note was happening and half the game was afk. Why put your foot in it needlessly? I also have a soft spot for EoD paranoia so maybe I'm being a little too understanding of his illogical play I left for IRL reasons and came back when I did for IRL reasons. and when I was back I was not caught up before I posted so I didn't know nothing was happening | ||
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On March 19 2017 08:56 darthfoley wrote: I should've clarified: I don't see the motivation for scum!tumble to come back when you did eh fair enough | ||
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On March 20 2017 08:43 raynpelikoneet wrote: Why the fuck would ritoky die otherwise? That's the only thing he has said in the game. Unless you wanna argue Damdred is mafia because Damdred would shoot ritoky for sure. ik, the kill doesn't make sense for anyone but eden, but it doesn't make sense for eden either. why would anyone think it would help eden? | ||
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On March 20 2017 08:46 darthfoley wrote: Also don't see why scum!TW would ever make this post clearing 4 people. Can you explain why you're not touching Xata/Calix/Me please xata is in an obv town v town shitty tunnel argument with rayn, and also looked real good at EoD. calix has been townie all game - genuine, reactive, assertive, good tone - and you were very town during the night. I admit I like people who defend me for the reasons I'd defend me. I think I had other reasons but I don't remember them anymore. | ||
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On March 20 2017 09:00 raynpelikoneet wrote: Explain why Xatalos looked really good during the EoD? levelheaded, inquisitive, had opinions, etc. you would have gotten a better response if you had asked me at EoD | ||
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if we assume rayn is jk or mafia in the vanilla setup and nothing else, then there is a 40% chance of jk and a 60% chance of mafia, but it's not worth lynching him because he will inevitably be revealed by LyLo or if we ever feel like outing our other blue (this is probably not relevant, I am still on page 68) | ||
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On March 21 2017 01:58 Damdred wrote: This is kinda a towny post. Can you tell me who you think is scum just gut feels no need to get super indepth atm it's not strong in anyone, more of a pool, but koshi/eden/former rels/onegu. I'm leaning town on you now. also I don't trust rayn but don't want to lynch him because of the whole jk/scum thing | ||
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On March 21 2017 10:41 AMG wrote: Tumble, you floated past to remove your vote from me, but didnt want to discuss anything in the thread? Talk to me about why you find Damdred town that one is a feels read. just today I found myself saying "hey, that's a good post" a lot. much better than his d1 (and for most of today I have only been able to play for a couple minutes at a time. btw you are way cooler than afk!rels ever was and strong enough to town) | ||
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I don't remember people being crazy against eden, except for ritoky and damdred, who people also weren't crazy about. and then ritoky dies and immediately everyone assumes it was eden? not quite buying it. and if eden wanted to kill someone "threatening" it should have been damdred, who actually had a little clout. I'm gonna counterwagon unless I can see a real good argument against eden. | ||
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now let's see if Koshi is actually scum... | ||
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Koshi is town need to find someone else maybe disfo... | ||
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On March 21 2017 14:15 darthfoley wrote: Explain why you TR koshi and are switching in disformation pls I didn't like the eden wagon, so I voted Koshi. then I decided I should probably read Koshi's filter in case he was town, and his filter was good. not a real close examination but everything I saw (see: cared about) made me think he was town. so I decided maybe I was wrong on disfo. and I had kinda come off reading Koshi's very anti-disfo filter but in this read I started caring more about how boring he was. and he was boring, and I disliked him enough to vote him. then I checked out eden again and it was actually pretty townie imo | ||
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calix amg other town df koshi eden xata possible scummers onegu rayn damdred disfo | ||
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On March 21 2017 15:08 Xatalos wrote: Uh.... How did Damdred, me and rayn end up lower than Eden, DF and AMG? because I thought they were more town | ||
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On March 21 2017 15:10 Xatalos wrote: Also how did disfo become scum when you only had good things to say about him today >.> I changed my mind | ||
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On March 21 2017 23:11 raynpelikoneet wrote: He cannot be town in this game. (yes he can) | ||
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siri, swap rayn and xata in my list | ||
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On March 21 2017 23:28 Koshi wrote: The question is atm. Did we fall for the mafia trap with Eden. It kinda just felt right, I also would have voted Eden instantly D2 if it wasn't I felt my vote was better on rayn. eden seems like the red herring to me. it was too easy and too sudden. | ||
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On March 22 2017 03:41 disformation wrote: like where the hell is eden? though i have to admit this line of thinking didnt work very well on mal -.- ah yes, the old "bring up a point and then discard it" (eden would show up as either alignment) | ||
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if you were neither of those things you would be acting differently. probably wouldn't have been arguing with rayn for so long | ||
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On March 22 2017 03:48 Xatalos wrote: And rayn shitting on me forever makes him 99% town? yes! you are more like 60% | ||
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On March 22 2017 03:49 disformation wrote: aight. either try and get me lynched if you think i am scum or do something else productive. wasting your vote and/or random shade throwing on me wont help you progress the game. I see your point but I'm gonna ignore it | ||
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On March 22 2017 05:28 darthfoley wrote: Like Eden is very likely mafia. He's done nothing since pressure was put on him. How the fuck could we let him live today remember that time I put pressure on rels and he did nothing remember that time you brought up where everyone pressured malongo and he did nothing come on | ||
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On March 22 2017 05:44 Koshi wrote: rayn you better take a step back. I am 99% sure Calix is never mafia in this game. It is even extremely obvious to me. finally, intelligent humans now we can get some real discourse started again ![]() | ||
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calix amg rayn probable town: df koshi ??? onegu eden ... xata damdred disfo | ||
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On March 22 2017 06:01 Calix wrote: Question. If Xatalos is that low down, then why not vote for him when he's more likely to be lynched? disformation is clearly not dying today is my point. And reasoning for Damdred? (have only skimmed your filter so may have missed this) mostly PoE on damdred. deadline afkness does not help. and I will switch to xata if it comes down to it, but I am still holding out hope because the more rayn argues with him the less confident I am. | ||
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On March 22 2017 06:05 Koshi wrote: Hmm the Eden lynch is set in stone. TW/rayn/Damdred/Calix are lock town then. If 1 is mafia this is over. I can live with that. why Damdred? I agree on all other counts but what from Damdred makes you so confident? | ||
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On March 22 2017 06:08 Koshi wrote: call it a gut read I got after scumreading him at the start of the game. hmmmm ok I think you're overconfident on that one but you haven't gone crazy | ||
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On March 22 2017 06:15 raynpelikoneet wrote: ##unvote ##vote Eden1892 what the fuck? | ||
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On March 22 2017 06:16 Koshi wrote: I am currently busy with money stuff. Going to start playing on the stock market. And with playing I mean I am going to buy a shitton of 1 stock that should be a safe bet. (max -10% on short term and potential +20% on longer term) But most likely will just do nothing too crazy and will net me 2% each year except the fucking 0,3% I get due to banks are fucking criminals. So if anybody has great advice I can use it. invest in my dragon eggs. they are getting 20% more clicks this quarter than the last | ||
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On March 22 2017 06:23 raynpelikoneet wrote: Xatalos, Damdred/Calix, idk, maybe onegu then, or df. Idk. Xatalos is the only one i am sure about and the chainsaw makes me think Calix too. Maybe Eden is mafia? Idk. What i do know is that you're not mafia, Adam is not mafia, Tumble is not mafia and disformation is not mafia. who is adam | ||
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On March 22 2017 06:36 Damdred wrote: Say calix and xata are town. What's the point in shooting rayn? so that a basically-confirmed townie and power role is no longer a part of the town | ||
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On March 22 2017 06:38 Xatalos wrote: Yeah, I'd at least roleblock him if I was scum AMG or something. ah true roleblocker. maybe not then. probably would kill Koshi or someone | ||
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On March 22 2017 07:10 Calix wrote: Hello Tumblewood. How have your reads changed in light of this flip? makes it easier with the 3-scum incompatibilities. for cred the team is damdred/disfo, but maybe it's xata or onegu. not really looking at anyone else at this point besides, as a stretch, df. | ||
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been a while since i reevaluated you / reaffirmed you were town On March 22 2017 07:15 darthfoley wrote: How long are we gonna let TW get away with reads changing every two seconds, and defending everything based off of gut reads and "vibes?" but actually for as long as you believe in meta (sometimes i do make cases but i hate it) and i do not like how this post could be an argument but is instead a complaint | ||
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On March 22 2017 10:47 darthfoley wrote: Perhaps you should try casing the next person instead of giving a gut feeling they're town *cough Eden cough* A complaint and an argument are not mutually exclusive. I simply feel like you and Onegu have had very low bars set for the two of you this entire game and I don't understand why bcoz im rly good thats why ... !! | ||
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disformation - has these huge walls of text. in some places he seems to show real conviction, but it's fleeting. i am conflicted because it seems like a lot of work for a scummer to put it but mostly he writes long posts that don't seem to have the intention of ever being read. leaning scum + Show Spoiler + i know you're going to ask what that means and i ask you figure it out yourself damdred - leaning back towards town because i remember (though i could not find it in his filter) the part where he sees eden's post and he's like "this is bad but i don't have time to explain why yet" which is something scum rarely does, usually preferring to just wait until they have the case (or at least, i think so). then again he has not impressed me in any respect this game so he is not off the hook yet. onegu - objectively bad, but that is to be expected. there are some things i have seen in his filter which are either so out of left field or so 'little' (like, "i expect this player to be yelling at me more") that i don't think scum1gu could come up with it in multiple instances. darthfoley - this quote & associated posts + Show Spoiler + Sorry for thinking that tumblewood's paranoia and generally EoD play isnt purely mafia indicative when I've done the same thing myself? xatalos - when not antagonizing someone or another he does not post any quality analysis. fortunately for him i think shitfighting is quite a townie thing to do so he is ??? help me i have too many townreads bye | ||
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also 0% chance he is with xata. no one drinks their scum partner's koolaid | ||
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On March 23 2017 14:27 AMG wrote: In your last post thought Xalatos was possibly townie with a few question marks. Now you're trying to solve the game using Xata as confirmed scum to find the 3rd? no. but if he is scum df is not. drinking the xata kool aid is a direct quote from his filter that imo makes them never buddies | ||
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On March 24 2017 06:29 AMG wrote: Care to revisit my question to you from yesterday, I'd like to know how your brain works wow I am a mind reader | ||
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On March 24 2017 06:37 Tumblewood wrote: no. but if he is scum df is not. drinking the xata kool aid is a direct quote from his filter that imo makes them never buddies also there was something in disfo's filter -- the red riding hood thing -- that probably also excludes him from being with xata. | ||
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On March 24 2017 10:54 AMG wrote: The thing thats got me not wanting to immediately kill Xalatos is that I cant see him allowing a night kill on Ritoky. That to me says AFK/inactive scum team who can you see doing that though? out of disfo/damdred/onegu/me, which two are gonna be okay with letting eden NK rit? | ||
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On March 25 2017 06:09 Xatalos wrote: Let's hope it is that easy and it's something like Onegu+Tumble. nice !!! | ||
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On March 25 2017 07:50 Damdred wrote: I'm not sure why that list exactly tumble? Explain with more than a sentence for each. Xata why aren't you more suspicious of say koshi here instead of just defaulting back to amg and tumble? how about i explain all of my townreads with more than a sentence each | ||
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koshi - really overconfident at points + Show Spoiler [see here] + On March 20 2017 07:46 Koshi wrote: Classic case of mafia being overconfident and making a mistake. amg - ABORT i've only read 1 page of his filter and i already wanna lynch him (case incoming, or maybe at day) | ||
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+ Show Spoiler [see here] + On March 20 2017 21:07 AMG wrote: If you've described something/someone as "weird" in this game, which several of you have, remove that shitty word from your vocabulary and actually explain WHAT about them is unusual. Pet peeve. Also shitty mafia buzzword because they're not creative enough to explain a feeling beyond "weird". On March 20 2017 22:32 AMG wrote: OK, stop trying to convince the mafia hes mafia. You're growing this thread faster than I can read it. Explain to me slowly, as if i were a little child, why he is mafia, preferably not using the most recent claim situation... since I have not caught up to the part where people are claiming. On March 23 2017 20:49 AMG wrote: Koshi, flooding the thread with quotes does nothing but pad out your already bloated filter. Make a coherent case, fit it in one post. On March 21 2017 09:09 AMG wrote: If you think its a bad post, you dont need to hide that in brackets. Youre welcome to your opinion, wrong as it may be. Youre damn right im trying to derail this lynch, ive said I find Eden townish, and I see far too many people on it that are labelling each other as scum. Stop voting with your scum reads, thats friggen stupid. Take a step back and assume for a moment that im not scum, even though I've said I dont like your day 1 actions. Can you see a townie making this post? Give me a chance to put my thoughts into the thread. Or if youre scum you can just keep shutting down everything I post, and Ill take that as a sign we're heading to a shit fight. (this is not a scum thing exactly but why so much explaining what he is going to do before he does it?) also argues staunchly that eden is town but anticipates a scum flip anyway. this is the only thing he argues confidently about and he's not very confident when he's not arguing + Show Spoiler [you know what] + On March 21 2017 21:03 AMG wrote: Back onto the problem at hand. I'll admit, I have not pushed anyone with any great fervour today, I am still finding my place in this game. I still think this Eden wagon is riddled with disease, however I am not making much headway in convincing anyone of this and my efforts doubly fall flat when the man himself is nowhere to be seen for 36 hours. On March 21 2017 23:13 AMG wrote: I've either spent the entire day defending an AFK townie from a scum-controlled town, or ive spent the entire day defending an AFK scummer from a bunch of townies that clearly have the game figured out a lot better than I do. Either way, tomorrow is going to suck a tonne of ass. ALSO it helps explain the ritoky nk, at least a little bit. like eden freaked out, rels was afk, and the third scum was a pushover ... this is all i found. i expected better tbh. but his first page is really bad and i'm desperate | ||
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On March 25 2017 10:52 AMG wrote: Lets go over this then. The first bracket is, as you've said, not alignment indicative. Largely speaks to my playstyle and how I expect/want others to play. I did staunchly argue that eden was town, I don't hide from that fact, it was a shit read. How is a lack of confidence when i'm not arguing a sign of being scum? I had a shit read and large portion of the game in my mind had to be reassessed. So... why are you desperate? because I'm two days into the game and I still have no idea who's scum | ||
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On March 25 2017 11:09 AMG wrote: You moved me into your "obvious town" at around this post.... when my filter was exactly 1 page and 2 posts long. Now you're making the argument that my first page of filter is "really bad". What gives? idk, probably a lot of head nodding and not enough actual reading | ||
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On March 25 2017 13:02 AMG wrote: There's doing what's easy, and then there's doing what's right. While that might be an easy play, it's certainly not the right one. what's easy has about a 20% chance of being right, and rereading all the filters and making a reasoned case has about a 25% chance of being right and also takes several more hours of work. I dunno, I think the best route is just the lazy one with reactions to new events | ||
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amg and xata are not together because amg basically made himself look bad for no reward if they are partners. ergo they are not. the only person I really think might be with xata is damdred, who actually looks pretty decent by himself. so maybe xata is town | ||
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damdred/disfo > amg/disfo > damdred/xata > amg/damdred > disfo/xata > amg/xata > any team with Koshi > any team with rayn or df and I think damdred/disfo might be a winner | ||
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+ Show Spoiler [disfo] + On March 25 2017 18:12 disformation wrote: hmmmm... maybe i should use more spoilers in my big posts to make them more readable good idea + Show Spoiler [rayn] + any team with you or df on it doesn't make sense + Show Spoiler [xata] + On March 25 2017 19:44 Xatalos wrote: Tumble: who do you think would be the "pushover" scum in your theory for why ritoky was killed? I like the theory otherwise, but I don't really see who would just let Eden control the kill.. When he was barely even playing by N1. idk. i don't remember who was there at deadline but i don't expect it from anyone who was there at the time. i will have to check who was there and who was afk + Show Spoiler [xata] + On March 25 2017 19:50 Xatalos wrote: What's this theory? Thread shitfights are always TvT? >.> I'll admit I've never participated in one as scum, but I've seen cases of that happening. Me (town) vs rayn (scum) for example haha it's a very specific kind of shitfight. blind, righteous, and annoying. i historically have not been wrong in calling those and i don't want to start now + Show Spoiler [xata] + On March 25 2017 20:00 Xatalos wrote: Like I think of a reason anyone could be scum - and I come up with 2 reasons for being town........ sucks hahahaha feel my pain On March 25 2017 20:38 Xatalos wrote: + Show Spoiler + Tumbleweed, the hero we deserve - not always in the clearest state of mind, but occasionally coming through with the revelations we needed wait did i do something important + Show Spoiler [xata] + On March 25 2017 21:01 Xatalos wrote: I think he was referring to the theory of GF Onegu though? By saying "if he's scum". Doesn't really make any sense with GF Tumble if onegu flipped rb rayn could have jailed me and if the nk went through i would be cleared. if onegu flipped gf rayn could jail me and df could check me and either kp wouldn't go through or i'd have a green check. i felt pretty smart when i figured that one out. in retrospect it would allow scum to frame me though if they felt frisky thank you this is the end of the q&a | ||
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On March 26 2017 02:08 raynpelikoneet wrote: What's the point of the silent period then? :o so btdt can finish his cs game | ||
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On March 26 2017 06:38 raynpelikoneet wrote: did you read anything i said last page? :D Tumble. the part about you jailing me? yeah | ||
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since we have 3 lynches to hit 2 scum, we lynch amg, disfo, damdred, in that order. if xata and koshi are town (most likely pair imo) then we win. if we wrote off one of those two too early we lose, but that's a chance we have to take | ||
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On March 26 2017 15:19 AMG wrote: Its 5v2 right now. We get 2 lynches and if we managed to hit 1, we buy ourselves another. I'd rather not lynch down a list. Tumble, tell me your updated reads on disinformation and damdred. I'd like to know if anything has changed since D2. we can lynch down a list of the list is 3 people. if the scumteam is within those 3 we win and if it's not we lose, no matter what order we go and I said in that order because I think Damdred has the best chance of proving his towniness for sure given some extra days, and also the best chance of being town. since I did the association thing I have eliminated a few pairs involving disfo/damdred but looking at their filters is like reading the tax code | ||
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On March 26 2017 15:49 AMG wrote: Why are you so resigned to ruling out Koshi and Xata? If they're scum, saying "well played they win" is complete ass, the game is only half way done. what makes you think the list is absolutely not changing for the rest of the game? it's not likely to, but that is how townreads work | ||
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words, as interpreted by amg: ahhh, made a list. now I can kick back, relax, and change nothing ever if you disagree with the list that's one thing, but stop arguing over the very idea of a list | ||
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rayn, why is amg town? also why is koshi scum? | ||
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and decided that my play has become apathetic or dropped off or some shit when ON D3 you were practically praising me for making some dumbass association posts? and xata, get your own reads, for god's sake. rayn's aren't even good. damdred/disfo, as a team will always make sense because the double bus is always a possibility on the already insanely bus-heavy TL meta. amg/damdred and amg/disfo you could argue don't make sense but come on the best thing amg has done to make those teams unrealistic was defend a scum. that sort of play is what I'm actively trying to add to my scum meta. I will not even entertain the argument that none of the teams inside the 3 scummiest people in the game make sense, and I sure as hell will not tolerate some dumbass Koshi association team in a world where decent associations exist that do not involve the towniest filter in the game. ok how many pages have you made in the last 9 minutes | ||
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On March 28 2017 06:16 AMG wrote: Rayn, you've pointed out here exactly why Koshi is scum, hes ignoring ALL of the townie things i've done. His attacks on me are just so one-eyed and blind. I know when i'm being attacked by a townie, and this isn't it. Koshi needs to die. (ignoring the fact that townies tunnel all the goddamn time, and that is exactly how it happens) | ||
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On March 28 2017 06:24 Damdred wrote: Why are you so upset tw when your scum read disf is getting lynched... the worry is that the day would not end like that | ||
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On March 28 2017 06:29 Damdred wrote: Then why are you worried about it when you aren't even voting your scum read and can you know make it so not shaky? WHOOPS accidentally the wagons are 4v3 with xata willing to defect, even after I switched looks like it really wasn't shaky! | ||
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On March 28 2017 06:30 raynpelikoneet wrote: Tumble was mad at Koshi being lynched. Not disformation. rayn do you still think Koshi is likely scum? | ||
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and I'm still a little mad, but on the inside | ||
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On March 28 2017 06:36 raynpelikoneet wrote: Tumblewood why does your vote always (except for here) ends up on someone completely random person? it doesn't? I could see d2 as random, but d3 was pretty duh, now is pretty duh, and d1 was the second-biggest wagon. so how are they always random? | ||
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On March 28 2017 06:42 Xatalos wrote: Well, I feel it has to be exactly disfo+Tumble or then we're lynching town... in a world where disfo/damdred double bus is an impossible, mind-blowing possibility | ||
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On March 28 2017 06:43 disformation wrote: though tw's reason to lynch amg, was just taht list thing right? well, no, I had a case and shit. why do you think he was on the list? | ||
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On March 28 2017 06:45 Xatalos wrote: You mean Damdred and Eden double bussed each other, then disfo and Damdred went for the same plan right afterwards ![]() am I crazy? if both scummates bus one partner that's a double bus, right? because that exact play happens all the time, and makes total sense for disfo and damdred d2. | ||
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come on I'm trying everything I got here | ||
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I thought you were voting me? and that was why rayn flipped out? you're not? | ||
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not my best game. I spent the whole time floundering trying to make something of the filters of all the vets, but alas they were too long and too mundane. I had fun while I was alive, and I still think my lynch was pretty stupid but in retrospect I was way more waffly than usual. also Koshi ninja-voting me might have had something to do with it (probably not your best option, though maybe salvageable if you had chosen to kill xata instead) gj especially to all the townies who carried me (and congrats to Damdred on twins!) | ||
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On April 03 2017 06:24 disformation wrote: also think town overall played pretty good this game. my personal goal is to play like tw next game. o.O why would you do that to yourself | ||
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