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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 20 2017 20:11 GMT
#1601
wot dis
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 20 2017 20:15 GMT
#1602
thought we were talking about hedge posts?
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
March 20 2017 20:23 GMT
#1603
Vote count

raynpelikoneet
(0) xatalos, calix, koshi
eden1892(6) damdred, disformation, raynpelikoneet, koshi, onegu xatalos
disformation(2) calix darthfoley xatalos
AMG(1) tumblewood

not voting
AMG, Eden1892


eden1892 is set to be lynched
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 20 2017 21:02 GMT
#1604
ohhhhh
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
AMG
Profile Joined March 2013
Australia298 Posts
March 20 2017 23:22 GMT
#1605
Posting from work so Ill be in and out between phonecalls.

To everyone on the Eden wagon:
Unless you think the scum team is some combination of Myself, Tumble, Eden, Calix and Darthfoley.... then youre currently on a wagon with your scum reads. Have a good hard think about that.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 20 2017 23:41 GMT
#1606
On March 21 2017 08:22 AMG wrote:
Posting from work so Ill be in and out between phonecalls.

To everyone on the Eden wagon:
Unless you think the scum team is some combination of Myself, Tumble, Eden, Calix and Darthfoley.... then youre currently on a wagon with your scum reads. Have a good hard think about that.


This is kinda a bad post (ok it is a bad post).

It is nothing but fear mongering going into a lynch.

Scenario one: Eden is afk scum, there is no reason for scum not to be on eden, there is no good defense of Eden. Just lynch and try to muddy up the water's and try to not give credit tonthebpeople on wagon song mafia had to be there!

Scenario two: Eden is somehow afk town that can't play and sort of doesn't care. If course scum isn't going to pass up thus wagon. Easy lynch.

The difference is in both cases is that Eden has no real reason to be read town, shows nothing of actually being in the game or not using old information only wants to pass the blame.

The other reason this is a bad post, he is complaining about gamestate and what is happening without constructively giving an actual second option. Just setting up a hook to cause fear and discord in the game.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 21 2017 00:06 GMT
#1607
On March 21 2017 08:22 AMG wrote:
Posting from work so Ill be in and out between phonecalls.

To everyone on the Eden wagon:
Unless you think the scum team is some combination of Myself, Tumble, Eden, Calix and Darthfoley.... then youre currently on a wagon with your scum reads. Have a good hard think about that.

Who is mafia?
I had a good night of sleep.
AMG
Profile Joined March 2013
Australia298 Posts
March 21 2017 00:09 GMT
#1608
If you think its a bad post, you dont need to hide that in brackets. Youre welcome to your opinion, wrong as it may be.

Youre damn right im trying to derail this lynch, ive said I find Eden townish, and I see far too many people on it that are labelling each other as scum. Stop voting with your scum reads, thats friggen stupid.


Take a step back and assume for a moment that im not scum, even though I've said I dont like your day 1 actions. Can you see a townie making this post? Give me a chance to put my thoughts into the thread.

Or if youre scum you can just keep shutting down everything I post, and Ill take that as a sign we're heading to a shit fight.
AMG
Profile Joined March 2013
Australia298 Posts
March 21 2017 00:10 GMT
#1609
On March 21 2017 09:06 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2017 08:22 AMG wrote:
Posting from work so Ill be in and out between phonecalls.

To everyone on the Eden wagon:
Unless you think the scum team is some combination of Myself, Tumble, Eden, Calix and Darthfoley.... then youre currently on a wagon with your scum reads. Have a good hard think about that.

Who is mafia?


Dont like Damred. Dont like Xalatos.
AMG
Profile Joined March 2013
Australia298 Posts
March 21 2017 01:41 GMT
#1610
Tumble, you floated past to remove your vote from me, but didnt want to discuss anything in the thread?

Talk to me about why you find Damdred town
AMG
Profile Joined March 2013
Australia298 Posts
March 21 2017 02:54 GMT
#1611
On March 21 2017 08:41 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2017 08:22 AMG wrote:
Posting from work so Ill be in and out between phonecalls.

To everyone on the Eden wagon:
Unless you think the scum team is some combination of Myself, Tumble, Eden, Calix and Darthfoley.... then youre currently on a wagon with your scum reads. Have a good hard think about that.


Scenario one: Eden is afk scum, there is no reason for scum not to be on eden, there is no good defense of Eden. Just lynch and try to muddy up the water's and try to not give credit tonthebpeople on wagon song mafia had to be there!

Scenario two: Eden is somehow afk town that can't play and sort of doesn't care. If course scum isn't going to pass up thus wagon. Easy lynch.


Lets talk about this. Your argument is that in both scenarios, there are scum on this wagon. I fully agree with you on this. There are scum voting for Eden. I have zero doubt.

In the first scenario, the world you live in assuming your town, you want me to believe that of all the people posting next to nothing, they're going to let the lynch fall on one of theirs when there's by sheer weight of numbers townies doing as little as Eden is, who could take his place. You are either arrogant or delusional to think it's going to be this easy.

In the second scenario, youre jumping onto an afk townie, that there are scum voting for, by your own admission "too good to pass up".


Which reality are you choosing to live in?

raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 21 2017 02:58 GMT
#1612
AMG:
Why does Eden look town to you?
What is wrong in ritoky's case?
Why does mafia shoot ritoky?
table for two on a tv tray
AMG
Profile Joined March 2013
Australia298 Posts
March 21 2017 03:05 GMT
#1613
I've already outlined why I found Eden town. I can follow along with his thought processes easily enough, seems genuine. I really dont see a low activitcy scum launching into a case on Calix when he did.

Ritokys case isnt terrible, I just see it differently. At face value the things Ritoky brought up are there, but he seems more pissed off about the content of the post rather try decipher the motivations behind them.

Why mafia kill ritoky there, who knows.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 21 2017 03:07 GMT
#1614
I'll rephrase my first question:
On March 20 2017 21:43 AMG wrote:
I've made this post before as town. He really wanted to lynch Calix, which is stupid, but he wants what he wants. That's not on the cards from what I gather up to page 22. So he justifies where he did leave his vote in the end, Damdred, as he believes that even his second choice for the day was a better option than where the lynch ended up going. Hes saying "right well you guys fucked up by not listening to me, and now that you've gone and dun fucked up, listen to me more in the future.... and kill who i want to kill". Looks like a townie who wants to flip his scum reads to me.

How do you come to this conclusion because Eden didn't say he even thinks Damdred is mafia. He said he "doesn't see a reason why Damdred couldn't be mafia".
table for two on a tv tray
AMG
Profile Joined March 2013
Australia298 Posts
March 21 2017 03:07 GMT
#1615
Feel free to try and persuade me otherwise, I'd like to know why youre comfortable voting the same way as xalatos after your previous exchange.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 21 2017 03:09 GMT
#1616
Because if Eden is mafia there is nothing mafia can do about this lynch. Xatalos is smart enough to not fight it too much (while he tried at the start of the day already regardless of what he says). And all things considered Eden looks like mafia.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 21 2017 03:12 GMT
#1617
If Eden wanted to lynch his scumread why didn't he argue more about why Calix is mafia and instead just put his vote on someone who he claimed to be a null read?
table for two on a tv tray
AMG
Profile Joined March 2013
Australia298 Posts
March 21 2017 03:17 GMT
#1618
He made a few lengthy posts on why Calix was mafia, saw that it was never going to happen, consolidated on Damdred who had a couple of other votes on him, who he said posts a stack without saying much, and was the only other viable wagon on D1.

I can see the thought process. Smells like time-poor townie to me.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 21 2017 03:19 GMT
#1619
Let's assume you're right. Now why does ritoky (who isn't even nearly the most townread person in the game) die?
table for two on a tv tray
AMG
Profile Joined March 2013
Australia298 Posts
March 21 2017 03:21 GMT
#1620
I have zero answer for that.

There were several people I had as more likely to die as I read the closure of the first cycle.
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