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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 21 2017 06:15 GMT
#1641
On March 21 2017 15:10 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2017 01:57 Tumblewood wrote:
idk I'm looking through disfo and I think I like him again. his early d1 is still good and he wasn't as useless as I thought mid-d1 (probably the part I skipped because some of it is unfamiliar).


Also how did disfo become scum when you only had good things to say about him today >.>

I changed my mind
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 21 2017 06:19 GMT
#1642
(if you think my answers are unhelpful it's because I think my reads are fine as they are and your questions are indirectly calling them ridiculous. also I do not have anything in the way of formal reasoning)
good times for all
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 21 2017 06:20 GMT
#1643
At least nobody can say your answers aren't direct and to the point :D
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 21 2017 06:21 GMT
#1644
On March 21 2017 15:19 Tumblewood wrote:
(if you think my answers are unhelpful it's because I think my reads are fine as they are and your questions are indirectly calling them ridiculous. also I do not have anything in the way of formal reasoning)


Hmm.... Just gut feels?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
March 21 2017 06:24 GMT
#1645
On March 21 2017 14:27 AMG wrote:
The lynch was entirely up in the air on day start, Ritoky flipped and then this wagon generated steam at lightning pace.

This is not true at all.
table for two on a tv tray
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 21 2017 07:23 GMT
#1646
omw to work.
want to lynch tumblewood for calling me boring after the posts i made yesterday.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 21 2017 07:48 GMT
#1647
wait he said "was boring".
On March 21 2017 14:21 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2017 14:15 darthfoley wrote:
On March 21 2017 14:09 Tumblewood wrote:
my objectivity is at an all time low + Show Spoiler +
not really
but I'm flipping disfo to scum. other pro is we get a nice interesting EoD


Explain why you TR koshi and are switching in disformation pls

I didn't like the eden wagon, so I voted Koshi. then I decided I should probably read Koshi's filter in case he was town, and his filter was good. not a real close examination but everything I saw (see: cared about) made me think he was town. so I decided maybe I was wrong on disfo. and I had kinda come off reading Koshi's very anti-disfo filter but in this read I started caring more about how boring he was. and he was boring, and I disliked him enough to vote him.
then I checked out eden again and it was actually pretty townie imo

still doesnt quite explain wtf hes doing.
expect a bigger post later.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 21 2017 08:28 GMT
#1648
figures. no pc at work atm. hate playing from phone.

basically i dont like how tw likes my d1, likes my d2. reads koshi, votes me based of (presumeably) koshi saying my n1 is boring. which completely ignores at least my d2. which he admits by saying "was boring".

apart from the fact that i have 0 idea why he was randomly voting koshi in the first.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 21 2017 08:33 GMT
#1649
sadly i am not even sure if that makes him scum looking to do something for the sake of doing something or if its another town paranoia bout.

he surely doesnt seem to care what thread thinks about him, as displayed in his answers to xata.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 21 2017 08:45 GMT
#1650
@AMG:
did you notice that a bunch of eden's points on calix were plagiarised from my earlier posts on calix?
i also havent seen you or anyone else refute ritoky's post on eden.
like how does post town eden's n1 post?
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 21 2017 08:47 GMT
#1651
eden/agm/df

/game

(not 100% on df though)
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 21 2017 09:01 GMT
#1652
wait. agm did actually talk about edens post.
On March 20 2017 21:43 AMG wrote:
This is a shitty thought experiment because filters in isolation are only part of the story. This is a game of interaction. As such both of my reads on these players will involve another player. (the same player)

Eden is probably town.

disinformation is also probably town.


Lets discuss why.

Show nested quote +
On March 19 2017 10:34 Eden1892 wrote:
Why did we lynch Malongo? I guess it's "safe" but he was perfect null.

I voted Damdred because:
1. Calix wasn't a reasonable wagon and tbh I was starting to second guess myself anyway
2. I didn't see any compelling reason to vote Malongo. It's safe but fuck that, town doesn't win making safe plays unless the Mafia sucks.
3. Damdred still hasn't done anything that made me think he couldn't be Mafia. That's hypocritical compared to Malongo, except that I know I can expect more from Damdred and I can't know to do so from Malongo.
4. My vote for Damdred put the wagons at 5-3 which gave the Mafia a chance to save Malongo if he were scum; gave town a second wagon to consider, and I thought if the EOD were more active we'd get more meaningful info from that with a real 2nd option.

WITH THAT SAID, I apologize for not actually returning. I sorely underestimated my wireless carrier's range, Mississippi's infrastructure and the entertainment level of this wedding. I solemnly swear not to make any of those mistakes again, especially expecting positive outcomes from Mississippi's infratstructure. A truly egregious error to be certain


I've made this post before as town. He really wanted to lynch Calix, which is stupid, but he wants what he wants. That's not on the cards from what I gather up to page 22. So he justifies where he did leave his vote in the end, Damdred, as he believes that even his second choice for the day was a better option than where the lynch ended up going. Hes saying "right well you guys fucked up by not listening to me, and now that you've gone and dun fucked up, listen to me more in the future.... and kill who i want to kill". Looks like a townie who wants to flip his scum reads to me.


disinformation seems town for his early interactions with Calix. I can feel the emotion in his posts, his back and forth bickering seems genuine. He also seems reluctant to step off his scum read of Calix, even after both agree they're in OMGUS territory and are shitting up the thread. Its at this point that id expect a scum disinformation to commit whole hog to a fight with Calix and completely clog up the thread, but he does manage to back out of it and refocus elsewhere, while still maintaining his paranoia of Calix, but agreeing to lynch elsewhere for now.


i still think its far more likely to be a blame shifting post from eden. classical mafia.
who are agms scum reads again?
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
March 21 2017 09:10 GMT
#1653
So you are saying you dont know who your top 2 scumreads scumreads are? Are you sure you have read his posts?
table for two on a tv tray
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 21 2017 09:32 GMT
#1654
ah its damdy and xata.
AMG
Profile Joined March 2013
Australia298 Posts
March 21 2017 09:36 GMT
#1655
On March 21 2017 13:52 darthfoley wrote:
Cuz I like the way you're playing so far and you aren't being lazy, but I need to hear what you think about others. Specifically Koshi, TW, Calix


Calix is town. Obnoxious. Self Righteous. Looks a lot like my town play. I haven't been shy in saying as much. Both of my defences of Eden and disinformation were based on the utter stupidity of attacking someone that was spewing townie whenever they walked past the thread.

I had Tumblewood as town for saying something along the lines of "if youre going to make me read through 400 pages a day resulting in a headache, you can read some long winded posts of mine". And yet now that I'm looking for the posts, I cant find it anywhere?

Koshis' filter is just.... noise. Randomly spouting names, claiming hes nailed the scum team. Good to see some things never change. I much prefer his stuff AFTER ive replaced in to the stuff before it, as he seems to want to engage me and discuss things, possibly figure me out. For now he can live in tentative town-ville.
AMG
Profile Joined March 2013
Australia298 Posts
March 21 2017 09:41 GMT
#1656
On March 20 2017 05:21 Koshi wrote:
Xatalos is extremely townie on page 43.


Explain this for me Koshi, please kind sir.
AMG
Profile Joined March 2013
Australia298 Posts
March 21 2017 09:44 GMT
#1657
On March 21 2017 17:45 disformation wrote:
@AMG:
did you notice that a bunch of eden's points on calix were plagiarised from my earlier posts on calix?
i also havent seen you or anyone else refute ritoky's post on eden.
like how does post town eden's n1 post?



Sure, if you want to claim Eden was plagiarising your crap case to make his own crap case, you can have that.

I've specifically outlined why I didn't find ritokys post very moving. My filters nice and short.

disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 21 2017 09:52 GMT
#1658
yeah saw that. still think edens n1 post was pretty bad and more likely to come from scum.

my point with the eden copy thing is more like: id give eden more cred with the calix case if it was original.

can you explain your damdred scumread?
unless i missed it you only explained the xata one
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 21 2017 10:16 GMT
#1659
@rayn: do you have an opinion on agm yet?
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 21 2017 10:17 GMT
#1660
@rayn do you have an opinion on agm yet?
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