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AMG
Profile Joined March 2013
Australia298 Posts
March 27 2017 20:35 GMT
#3149
Just woke up catching up now
AMG
Profile Joined March 2013
Australia298 Posts
March 27 2017 20:41 GMT
#3160
Gut still says Koshi and tw.
AMG
Profile Joined March 2013
Australia298 Posts
March 27 2017 20:44 GMT
#3166
Koshi
Tumble
Disfo
AMG
Profile Joined March 2013
Australia298 Posts
March 27 2017 20:50 GMT
#3173
How long until the lynch
AMG
Profile Joined March 2013
Australia298 Posts
March 27 2017 21:16 GMT
#3207
On March 28 2017 05:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I really really don't understand why people ignore all the townie things AMG + Damdred have done and even if they think they are not townie they can't come up with something reasonable in "this is how it makes sense as mafia", they just take some other things and argue it makes people mafia. And no, being "disinterested" as in not posting much is not why someone is mafia. Like people are fucking arguing AMG is mafia because he "hard-defended Eden" and then also mafia because "he hasn't done anything in this game". Like what the fuck? Thsoe things are 100% mutually exclusive. Especially Koshi is trying to have it both ways.


Rayn, you've pointed out here exactly why Koshi is scum, hes ignoring ALL of the townie things i've done.

His attacks on me are just so one-eyed and blind.

I know when i'm being attacked by a townie, and this isn't it.

Koshi needs to die.
AMG
Profile Joined March 2013
Australia298 Posts
March 27 2017 21:22 GMT
#3220
^ Not town.
AMG
Profile Joined March 2013
Australia298 Posts
March 27 2017 21:23 GMT
#3222
Koshi is scum. I just need rayn to trust me on this so we can get this lynch done
AMG
Profile Joined March 2013
Australia298 Posts
March 27 2017 21:24 GMT
#3226
Yeah, the one you quoted disfo
AMG
Profile Joined March 2013
Australia298 Posts
March 27 2017 21:27 GMT
#3231
On March 28 2017 06:26 Damdred wrote:
Tw post feels off because he's mad koshi I getting looked at and to a lesser extent him.

When one of his scumreads is in fact getting lynched.

Makes 0 sense.


You got it.
AMG
Profile Joined March 2013
Australia298 Posts
March 27 2017 21:54 GMT
#3285
On March 28 2017 06:52 Damdred wrote:
I hope you are right rayn but I don't think so


.
AMG
Profile Joined March 2013
Australia298 Posts
March 28 2017 00:01 GMT
#3343
Sorry Rayn. Yes im Retarded. I backed my read when I should have followed you.


Koshi is only mafia now. Last second vote switch to save his teammate. That is the only thing that explains that action.
AMG
Profile Joined March 2013
Australia298 Posts
March 28 2017 00:11 GMT
#3344
Koshi is scum, Disfo is town, tumble town. He does a last second hammer vote to move from one townie to another, which he had just finished saying was "only one making sense" drawing heavy scrutiny from the thread and outing himself as scum for no potential benefit. Nope.

Koshi is scum, Disfo is scum, tumble town. He does a last second hammer vote onto tumble to save his teammate from being lynched and drag the game out another cycle. Winner.
AMG
Profile Joined March 2013
Australia298 Posts
March 28 2017 21:40 GMT
#3357
On March 29 2017 06:07 Damdred wrote:
Yeah only way to really get past today. But let's not just afk it ignore koshi I guess and search.

AMG, when the vote got so tight why didn't you go back to rayn? Or when he said he wasn't sswitching why did you stay?

Disformation and xata can you both explain your progression on your Eden read?


I genuinely believed that disfo was going to flip town. Just because rayn was confirmed town, does not mean he was not wrong. In hindsight, yeah he was right.

I felt more strongly about tumble being scum than disinfo, but I really wanted Koshi to eat rope. So I settled for tumble since he was also a scum read.

Yep, I should have switched back and consolidated with Rayn, but I followed my gut and my read.
AMG
Profile Joined March 2013
Australia298 Posts
March 28 2017 22:18 GMT
#3359
On March 29 2017 07:02 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2017 06:40 AMG wrote:
On March 29 2017 06:07 Damdred wrote:
Yeah only way to really get past today. But let's not just afk it ignore koshi I guess and search.

AMG, when the vote got so tight why didn't you go back to rayn? Or when he said he wasn't sswitching why did you stay?

Disformation and xata can you both explain your progression on your Eden read?


I genuinely believed that disfo was going to flip town. Just because rayn was confirmed town, does not mean he was not wrong. In hindsight, yeah he was right.

I felt more strongly about tumble being scum than disinfo, but I really wanted Koshi to eat rope. So I settled for tumble since he was also a scum read.

Yep, I should have switched back and consolidated with Rayn, but I followed my gut and my read.


Could you explain your koshi read yesterday and the progression that led you to that conclussion? And talk me through the day we lynched onegu and your thought process?


Koshi had been flinging dirt at me all game:

On March 22 2017 20:44 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2017 20:43 AMG wrote:
On March 22 2017 20:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why not Xatalos?

I guess i'm starting to buy into the inept scum team theory.

What is your proof? Except meta from a game you once played. Cuz that is fucking shit.


On March 22 2017 20:55 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2017 20:53 AMG wrote:
On March 22 2017 20:44 Koshi wrote:
On March 22 2017 20:43 AMG wrote:
On March 22 2017 20:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why not Xatalos?

I guess i'm starting to buy into the inept scum team theory.

What is your proof? Except meta from a game you once played. Cuz that is fucking shit.


I'm not leaning on meta from a game played 2 years ago to justify my lack of scum reads.

I genuinely believed town was on the wrong track yesterday.

You forgot the proof.


I started to really reassess my reads on everyone after Onegu flipped town, something I wasnt exactly prepared for. He genuinely just did not give a shit about the game and I followed rayn onto him.

On March 26 2017 22:32 Koshi wrote:
I'll make a quick why is Koshi town post:

First of, I don't think I can be blamed at all for the Xatalos vote, at least not in a way it was to "save" Eden. I had Xata as town day 2 for good reasons first, I even made a town case, but then somebody asked me to read some more pages and I read 3 and I pointed out all reasons why he was mafia over town, and I think it is very obvious where I switched my read on Xatalos, but I stayed on Eden because he was very likely mafia.

Secondly, why am I so "wrong" this game? I am not really... I just have had 2 times 48 hours in which I couldn't play. So the Malongo lynch kinda happened in the first period, in which I just wanted to pressure the worst posting "afker", after that people jumped on that train. Looking at it, it was disformation and Damdred that made that lynch happen. Both possible mafia btw. The Eden lynch I never ever opposed. I just made myself look bad going to Xatalos. And then yesterday I was one of the few who actually tried to get Onegu play and make him do stuff. If it was only up to me, I might have not even lynched him and lynched AMG. But I couldn't not park my vote on a 100% Onegu lynch that was potentially mafia.

Which brings us to today. Pure gut.
##vote Damdred
When I think Damdred I think Eden cleared him. That's it. That's bad.


This post from Koshi is just foul. He says hes a) not to blame for voting Xalatos, even though he defended Xalatos as town D2, b) passes the buck for the Malongo vote, passing blame to disfo and yourself, calling you both mafia in the process. c) Says he tried to "get onegu to do stuff" yesterday, after labelling Onegu as cancer, then says he would have rather lynched me over Onegu but he never pushed for that at all until the next day.

He passes all responsibility of all of his actions onto everyone else around him calling them mafia for crap that he himself was doing. Then finally he dumps his vote on you for the justification of "Eden cleared him, and hes done nothing else", when hes been calling me scum for the last 12 hours of the day. Thats scum.

I stand by my choices this game, not many of them have been right, but I take responsibility for my reads, unlike Koshi this game.
AMG
Profile Joined March 2013
Australia298 Posts
March 28 2017 22:55 GMT
#3363
Sure. I entered and made that case against your vote on Malongo. We clashed, and I came away from it with a feeling that I'd just made a case on a townie because of how you reacted. I offered you a trip to a shit fight and you declined. I decided to give you space and see how you reacted past that, and I somewhat felt you did the same with me. Koshi trying to drag you down solidified the fact that I do not think you are mafia.

I felt that after we tried to swing the vote onto Xalatos his reaction was a mostly town one, which left me in a really tough spot. The two people I'd said i did not like, were reacting townie to my cases and votes. I had no scum reads. Id like to think my frustration with myself for that fact was quite visible on Night 2 when Calix was pressing me for reads and I had no answer to give.

Then onegu flipped town. So I threw all my reads in the bin and started over, bar Rayn, because as I said before, if he was scum and was that excited to toy with me... well thats just damn cruel.

I discounted both yourself and Xalatos based on your reactions to previous attempts, discounted rayn and DF based on their claims. That left me with Koshi, Tumble and disfo. As soon as day broke on day 4, two of my "not town" reads piled onto me and I reacted, somewhat abruptly. I had the nagging feeling that Koshi was scum, and I thought TW was giving Koshi a free pass to LYLO based on this post:

On March 26 2017 14:47 Tumblewood wrote:
since thread is dead I will post my plan of action and you can yell at me if you want
since we have 3 lynches to hit 2 scum, we lynch amg, disfo, damdred, in that order. if xata and koshi are town (most likely pair imo) then we win. if we wrote off one of those two too early we lose, but that's a chance we have to take


That solidified to me that these two were scum and they were going all in on me. Of course, not the case, I hadnt countered for the fact that tumble was possibly lazy town even after our interaction the night before where he was spewing lazy anti town shit about not wanting to do extra filter reading to increase towns win rate.


As far as a read is concerned on disfo, well Im not making the same mistake again and going against rayn. He dies tomorrow right after Koshi takes the swing. They tipped their hand yesterday when things were desperate. Theres NO motivation for Koshi to do what he did yesterday if disinfo is town. Zero. None.
AMG
Profile Joined March 2013
Australia298 Posts
March 28 2017 23:18 GMT
#3364
On March 29 2017 07:48 Damdred wrote:
Also at one point (I think it's around the onegu lynch or after slightly ) I remember you being frustrated koshi thought you were scum.

You stated that koshi was wrong so there must be two people outplaying him.

It seems you were still slightly townreading him (at least). So what led from the frustration on koshi to outright scum read when you were in a pretty decent amount of people's poe? Especially when koshi is a known shit thrower to an extent?


That was my way of calling him shit. Didnt know if he was town or otherwise at that point.
AMG
Profile Joined March 2013
Australia298 Posts
March 28 2017 23:44 GMT
#3365
Im happy to keep talking about the game, but at this point, nothing short of me stroking out and pressing the wrong keys is going to make me vote for anyone bar those two.

Hows the family going?
AMG
Profile Joined March 2013
Australia298 Posts
March 29 2017 01:01 GMT
#3368
I think sometimes a cigar is just a cigar, and these two are just scum.

In a world where disfo is town, Koshi could have just afk'd on Disfo like he said he was going to, we lynch disfo, then he gets to say "well i just followed confirmed town rayn onto this wagon, not my fault". And the only person that was completely sold on his scumness at that point was me. Rayn gets shot overnight, Koshi continues to dump shit on me over the next day, Xalatos is happy enough to lynch me tomorrow, or possibly tumble. Theres so much more room to win from there if disfo isnt scum with him.
AMG
Profile Joined March 2013
Australia298 Posts
March 29 2017 01:08 GMT
#3369
And lastly, if disfo is not scum, why the sam-hill arent they in here defending themselves.

Its been long enough. The sound of silence is deafening.



AMG
Profile Joined March 2013
Australia298 Posts
March 29 2017 01:15 GMT
#3371
Yeah, I know, good to be thorough


And koshi is flipping scum. If hes flips town i swear to christ i will hang shit on him for the rest of forever for the most outrageously bad last minute vote switch. Onto his highest town read. lul.
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