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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 19 2017 22:37 GMT
#1201
On March 20 2017 06:19 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2017 06:12 darthfoley wrote:
On March 20 2017 06:06 Koshi wrote:
On March 20 2017 06:04 darthfoley wrote:
On March 20 2017 05:49 Koshi wrote:
On March 20 2017 03:30 darthfoley wrote:
PSA that I hate Rels. That is all.

Anyways, I must say that I've been thoroughly unimpressed by Koshi's effort levels so far. Like I understand D1 being a crap shoot and all, but the D1 play looks super passive. Even know there are plenty of arguments going on between Xata, Calix, rayn, Damdred, Eden etc but Koshi only pops in with a few one liners.

Would like to hear what he makes of all of this stuff

This is a fucking lie. I was only here the first 24h and I did way fucking more than that. Like.. You are taking my 24h filter and then pretend it is all I did for 96 hours.

mafia.


Sorry for claiming you've been passive when you've only been an active contributor for 24 of the 96 hours?

Your use of the word fuck will not sway my opinion my dude

Or should I say: your fucking use of the god damn fucking word fuck won't change my fucking opinion

So in those 24 hours I was a passive contributor? That is your opinion? Yes or No?


Looking back at your filter, passive is too strong of a word. I just feel like outside of the Damdred vs Disformation back and forth that you weren't as pushy or opinionated as I have seen town!koshi act in the past

So why are you misrepresenting me? You say:
" Even know there are plenty of arguments going on between Xata, Calix, rayn, Damdred, Eden etc but Koshi only pops in with a few one liners. "

Where did this happen? The only time I was on the sideline this game while activily playing was at the start of the day with Xatalos/damdred and disformation but only because I was chatting with my gf and even then I made other plays to confirm players.

I had a good night of sleep.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 19 2017 22:38 GMT
#1202
Going to sleep now though.. see ya sometime tomorrow!
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
March 19 2017 22:38 GMT
#1203
It'll have to be sometime tomorrow. It's getting late for me and I expect that I'll have to, you know, actually bring out the big guns when it comes to analysis on these people instead of being lazy about it if I want to be successful.

But I'll be around for a bit if you want to ask me stuff.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 19 2017 22:41 GMT
#1204
On March 19 2017 02:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2017 02:18 disformation wrote:
@rayn what do you currently think about tw?

Town. I especially like this set of posts:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2017 23:38 Tumblewood wrote:
On March 17 2017 23:25 Calix wrote:
On March 17 2017 23:24 Tumblewood wrote:
On March 17 2017 15:10 Xatalos wrote:
On March 17 2017 11:29 Tumblewood wrote:
On March 17 2017 08:54 Damdred wrote:
As for your reads Calix yeah I agree.

Koshi, xata, calix, deep, damdred is a strong town base right now.

Deeps follow up postings (while I strongly disagree what he says makes me scum), have been pretty thoughtful. And pretty good.

ik damdred likes town circles but come on this is too early to read vets
calix and deepblue are eh but who am i to criticize that. just xata/koshi/damdy/rayn are way too early to read


Rayn, in town circle? Hasn't he been just null/scum read by everyone?

What were your reads on me/Koski/Damdred then?

ya but he's still too early to read
I was null on all of them. there are reasons I could claim scum/town on one of them but they are pretty lame


Since the dead pigeon outside my window has done more scum-hunting than you have, don't hold back then.

Going "it's too early to read XYZ" is anti-town.

fuck that I'm sick of reads based on like 10 posts from someone who can easily look decent for as long as xata did when Damdred TRed him (and he wasn't that townie imo).
it seemed like it should have been a throwaway read and then it wasn't

Show nested quote +
On March 18 2017 00:40 Tumblewood wrote:
On March 18 2017 00:37 Koshi wrote:
On March 17 2017 23:50 Tumblewood wrote:
ALSO disfo v calix is a TvT argument. no way scum!disfo goes into an argument against someone way more widely TR b/c he knows he won't win

What would scum!disfo do?

brush it off or do that stupid "you're wrong but dw I won't scumread you" thing

Show nested quote +
On March 18 2017 00:54 Tumblewood wrote:
you can poke holes in my TvT argument but I know I'm right, I've never missed a read like this. and if you are baffled by how else disfo could respond to an accusation, look at what I've done all game

He seems to be really believing in what he says. There is no reason to argue that as mafia because while it can be correct - or even if it was there is always the doubt of someone scumreading you for the "terrible read". There is basically no point arguing that if both you and Calix are town and if one of you is scum it's even worse lol.

So the only conclusion i can come to is that he believes the read and that makes him town.


This is one of the tr rayn gives tumble. It's actually not as bad and lacking as I remembered hrm.

And @ calix, and? I think tumble is scum. I don't think he can be scum with rayn though. I don't mom unflipped association as much as some.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 19 2017 22:43 GMT
#1205
On March 20 2017 06:45 Xatalos wrote:
Could you elaborate on Eden and foley?

df I caught with his pants down trowing dirt on me.
Eden looks extremely bad with the ritoky shot.
rayn I explained.

easy 3 mafia.
I had a good night of sleep.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
March 19 2017 22:44 GMT
#1206
That doesn't actually answer my question. Why is it bad when I argue that TW is town using post analysis and evidence yet it's fine when you speculate that he's town due to scum!rayn's posts?

I don't care if you think pre-flip associations are the shit because that wasn't the point.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 19 2017 22:45 GMT
#1207
The real problem I have with DF his fake ass accusation on me is that it is just so blatantly wrong and not committal. I told everybody I was going to have a busy 96 hours but had a 4 page filter in the first 24. In which I drove the game forward. Then I was afk for 48 hours and people started mumbling, and then DF comes in and says that... Like.. Why?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 19 2017 22:46 GMT
#1208
Classic case of mafia being overconfident and making a mistake.
I had a good night of sleep.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
March 19 2017 22:46 GMT
#1209
Koshi, where's your vote? :p
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 19 2017 22:47 GMT
#1210
I don't know who I want to vote out of Darth, Eden and rayn. All are mafia.

##vote raynpelikoneet
Oh well. The one I love the most first :'(
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 19 2017 22:49 GMT
#1211
DF also has been the afk police this game. Also points towards scum not being able to live in the moment of the thread and just searches for things outside the current discussion to talk about
I had a good night of sleep.
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
March 19 2017 22:49 GMT
#1212
On March 20 2017 07:37 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2017 06:19 Koshi wrote:
On March 20 2017 06:12 darthfoley wrote:
On March 20 2017 06:06 Koshi wrote:
On March 20 2017 06:04 darthfoley wrote:
On March 20 2017 05:49 Koshi wrote:
On March 20 2017 03:30 darthfoley wrote:
PSA that I hate Rels. That is all.

Anyways, I must say that I've been thoroughly unimpressed by Koshi's effort levels so far. Like I understand D1 being a crap shoot and all, but the D1 play looks super passive. Even know there are plenty of arguments going on between Xata, Calix, rayn, Damdred, Eden etc but Koshi only pops in with a few one liners.

Would like to hear what he makes of all of this stuff

This is a fucking lie. I was only here the first 24h and I did way fucking more than that. Like.. You are taking my 24h filter and then pretend it is all I did for 96 hours.

mafia.


Sorry for claiming you've been passive when you've only been an active contributor for 24 of the 96 hours?

Your use of the word fuck will not sway my opinion my dude

Or should I say: your fucking use of the god damn fucking word fuck won't change my fucking opinion

So in those 24 hours I was a passive contributor? That is your opinion? Yes or No?


Looking back at your filter, passive is too strong of a word. I just feel like outside of the Damdred vs Disformation back and forth that you weren't as pushy or opinionated as I have seen town!koshi act in the past

So why are you misrepresenting me? You say:
" Even know there are plenty of arguments going on between Xata, Calix, rayn, Damdred, Eden etc but Koshi only pops in with a few one liners. "

Where did this happen? The only time I was on the sideline this game while activily playing was at the start of the day with Xatalos/damdred and disformation but only because I was chatting with my gf and even then I made other plays to confirm players.



On March 19 2017 07:58 Koshi wrote:
Meh. Looking into Onegu/Eden/Rels tomorrow.


You didn't do that.

On March 20 2017 01:12 Koshi wrote:
I am pretty happy with where I am. Maybe rayn is mafia. That will be fun.


Thanks for not elaborating

On March 20 2017 05:16 Koshi wrote:
K finally home. Somebody catch me up / talk to me.


Nice

On March 20 2017 05:19 Koshi wrote:
Guess I'll just skim and ping really bad posts.


Fair enough

On March 20 2017 05:21 Koshi wrote:
Xatalos is extremely townie on page 43.


Thanks for the explanation

On March 20 2017 05:22 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2017 06:24 Tumblewood wrote:
hi I'm back and I don't have time to catch up by deadline. it looks like everyone's on malongo by now and while I'd like to lynch someone worse I'm not crazy about him
someone who can explain any major new developments to me would be appreciated otherwise I will skim

Can somebody explain to me what this meant?


Idk maybe direct the question at the person who wrote it


Wow! Forgive me Dear Leader, for not thinking these posts are particularly stellar compared to what I have seen you do in the past! You have completely ignored Onegu/Eden/Rels, and you've provided a bunch of one liners before jumping down rayn's throat as what, the 3rd or 4th person to do so? Could rayn be mafia? Sure, but you jumping on him after everyone else has started to do so doesn't impress me. Really cutting edge town play there. Leading the charge, how could i think otherwise?!

Your scum read of me is also terrible, considering it's based off of literally one observation I made against you. Laziest scum read of all time and you know it. We even agree on multiple reads.

And you have the nerve to act all hot and bothered when i've pointed out how you've been lazy and not leading any wagons on people. Some people may be intimidated by your "fucking lies omfg wtf fucking MISREPRESENTATION" posts but i surely am not.

If you're gonna call me mafia, go do your homework, come back, and i'll grade your report

watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 19 2017 22:51 GMT
#1213
Ok the first 3 quotes are retarded so I can stop reading already.
I had a good night of sleep.
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
March 19 2017 22:52 GMT
#1214
On March 20 2017 07:45 Koshi wrote:
The real problem I have with DF his fake ass accusation on me is that it is just so blatantly wrong and not committal. I told everybody I was going to have a busy 96 hours but had a 4 page filter in the first 24. In which I drove the game forward. Then I was afk for 48 hours and people started mumbling, and then DF comes in and says that... Like.. Why?


Explain to me the mafia motivation behind that when I could easily put pressure on someone more likely to get lynched, like TW, Onegu, ritoky (who at the time was alive and I thought was acting suspicious), etc.

I'm not an idiot, and if I were mafia I would much rather try to buddy you than argue with you considering your ability to get people to listen to you.
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 19 2017 22:53 GMT
#1215
On March 20 2017 07:44 Calix wrote:
That doesn't actually answer my question. Why is it bad when I argue that TW is town using post analysis and evidence yet it's fine when you speculate that he's town due to scum!rayn's posts?

I don't care if you think pre-flip associations are the shit because that wasn't the point.


I never said it was bad that you think tw is town. I usually go down fighting someone is town so I understand that point of view.

I also understand that I can and more often than not be wrong. But that doesn't mean I shouldn't argue my position whichbi have. And 'i disagree with your evidence that he is town as I think it is an easy thing to fake.

However the way he approached lynching rayn, and how rayn tr him (if he is scum) leads me to believe they cannot be scum together. This to came from post analysis and critical reading rather than pure soeculation.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 19 2017 22:56 GMT
#1216
On March 20 2017 07:52 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2017 07:45 Koshi wrote:
The real problem I have with DF his fake ass accusation on me is that it is just so blatantly wrong and not committal. I told everybody I was going to have a busy 96 hours but had a 4 page filter in the first 24. In which I drove the game forward. Then I was afk for 48 hours and people started mumbling, and then DF comes in and says that... Like.. Why?


Explain to me the mafia motivation behind that when I could easily put pressure on someone more likely to get lynched, like TW, Onegu, ritoky (who at the time was alive and I thought was acting suspicious), etc.

I'm not an idiot, and if I were mafia I would much rather try to buddy you than argue with you considering your ability to get people to listen to you.

I don't have to.

You said:

Anyways, I must say that I've been thoroughly unimpressed by Koshi's effort levels so far. Like I understand D1 being a crap shoot and all, but the D1 play looks super passive. Even know there are plenty of arguments going on between Xata, Calix, rayn, Damdred, Eden etc but Koshi only pops in with a few one liners.


Now why did you say this?

And why do you defend yourself against me by using quotes of me from AFTER YOU MADE THIS FUCKING COMMENT?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 19 2017 22:58 GMT
#1217
You complain about me being disconnected and when I call you out on it you use some oneliners I used after you made that comment. And of course I was lost then because I didn't follow the game for 48 hours!
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 19 2017 22:59 GMT
#1218
Proof your initial comment with proof from my first 24 hours. And don't use some silly quotes. Explain it in 10 lines.
I had a good night of sleep.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
March 19 2017 23:00 GMT
#1219
On March 20 2017 07:53 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2017 07:44 Calix wrote:
That doesn't actually answer my question. Why is it bad when I argue that TW is town using post analysis and evidence yet it's fine when you speculate that he's town due to scum!rayn's posts?

I don't care if you think pre-flip associations are the shit because that wasn't the point.


I never said it was bad that you think tw is town. I usually go down fighting someone is town so I understand that point of view.


I was about to say "if that's the case then why did you criticise me for spending time arguing that people are town" but then I realised that you didn't specifically mention TW.

I also understand that I can and more often than not be wrong. But that doesn't mean I shouldn't argue my position whichbi have. And 'i disagree with your evidence that he is town as I think it is an easy thing to fake.

However the way he approached lynching rayn, and how rayn tr him (if he is scum) leads me to believe they cannot be scum together. This to came from post analysis and critical reading rather than pure soeculation.


Since you included this annoying catch-all, I don't see how I'm meant to respond -_-

I'll just settle for the fact that you agree that lynching TW today is not the best move but meh.
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
March 19 2017 23:03 GMT
#1220
On March 20 2017 07:56 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2017 07:52 darthfoley wrote:
On March 20 2017 07:45 Koshi wrote:
The real problem I have with DF his fake ass accusation on me is that it is just so blatantly wrong and not committal. I told everybody I was going to have a busy 96 hours but had a 4 page filter in the first 24. In which I drove the game forward. Then I was afk for 48 hours and people started mumbling, and then DF comes in and says that... Like.. Why?


Explain to me the mafia motivation behind that when I could easily put pressure on someone more likely to get lynched, like TW, Onegu, ritoky (who at the time was alive and I thought was acting suspicious), etc.

I'm not an idiot, and if I were mafia I would much rather try to buddy you than argue with you considering your ability to get people to listen to you.

I don't have to.

You said:
Show nested quote +

Anyways, I must say that I've been thoroughly unimpressed by Koshi's effort levels so far. Like I understand D1 being a crap shoot and all, but the D1 play looks super passive. Even know there are plenty of arguments going on between Xata, Calix, rayn, Damdred, Eden etc but Koshi only pops in with a few one liners.


Now why did you say this?

And why do you defend yourself against me by using quotes of me from AFTER YOU MADE THIS FUCKING COMMENT?


I said this because I don't like a game where everyone TRs you (or anyone really) early on and stays out of the limelight for awhile. Now, me making the comment triggered you into this frenzy of insults at me, but you're also talking about other people more, which I like. Now correlation doesn't equal causation, but I'll internally take a bit of credit for having the nerve to dare insinuate you aren't playing a perfect game (well i know you aren't because you're wrong about me) and that people should still think about you-- and then boom super active Koshi comes back into the fray.

First of all, the first two comments I cited were from before my post, so kindly take your LightningStrike CAPSLOCK somewhere else. The subsequent one liners support what i'm saying, from my pov. I'm allowed to be unimpressed by your pushes D1 outside of the refereeing you did during the whole Damdred vs Disformation thing.
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