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Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 19 2017 22:01 GMT
#1181
Eden is the scummiest person in the thread.

The case on calix not really involved in the game. Or even worrying about new things and just focusing on old.

Bunk idea about why he put his vote on me.

No clue what his reads even are at this point in the game (nai really)

His largest post during night wastrashed by multiple people and all his logic doesn't come from town will come from scum.

Tone is way off with his complaining about a lynch he really had no impact on. His case on calix was thrown to the waysidebecause no one cares even though he doesn't reallyb push or even try to push it in his reentry to the thread.

He just isn't comi mg from abhelpful town space and scum motivated in miatb of the things he does.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 19 2017 22:03 GMT
#1182
I wouldn't be against having rayn vs Eden wagons today. Wouldn't even surprise me if they're both scum.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 19 2017 22:04 GMT
#1183
On March 20 2017 06:59 disformation wrote:
would like to write something up on eden, but i feel like it would only end up as a weaker/worse version of ritoky's stuff.

also want to look at rayn, öiked koshis recent posts on him.

hope rels finds some time to finally do something this phase.

thats an eden vote btw.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
March 19 2017 22:05 GMT
#1184
On March 20 2017 07:03 Xatalos wrote:
I wouldn't be against having rayn vs Eden wagons today. Wouldn't even surprise me if they're both scum.


I'm not super-convinced here but two wagons is always a good idea so I'll help with this endeavour.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 19 2017 22:06 GMT
#1185
Who is scum calix?
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 19 2017 22:08 GMT
#1186
On March 20 2017 07:05 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2017 07:03 Xatalos wrote:
I wouldn't be against having rayn vs Eden wagons today. Wouldn't even surprise me if they're both scum.


I'm not super-convinced here but two wagons is always a good idea so I'll help with this endeavour.


Yeah, I like having 2 wagons. It's bound to be a treasure trove of information if there's scum included in there.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 19 2017 22:08 GMT
#1187
And a lot of time remains to decide on the correct lynch (feeling rayn atm though).
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
March 19 2017 22:09 GMT
#1188
On March 20 2017 07:06 Damdred wrote:
Who is scum calix?


Three of Eden, disformation, Onegu, Rels and as of late, rayn. You and Koshi are also possible but not a priority by any means and Koshi's latest posts were decent.

Kinda POE since I think I have decent reasons for town-reading everyone else.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 19 2017 22:12 GMT
#1189
I kind of feel like Onegu could be town though. Seems to really say whatever is on his mind, especially at end of N1?

disformation... dunno still. Probably not today's worry though.

Rels is impossible to say.

Damdred and Koshi lean town for me so far.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 19 2017 22:12 GMT
#1190
So for instance tumble is above koshi and me?

I don't think I understand how you are reading this game. And it seems you were worried about the game being super easy and going for lynch bait people earlier.

You have two lynch bait by your definition in your list atm. And if you aren't super convinced about either rayn or eitojy wagon why are they even in your top four instead of with koshi and i.

You just seem mega passive atm and more wanting to argue people town instead of finding scum.

Calix your bugging me atm...
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
March 19 2017 22:17 GMT
#1191
On March 20 2017 07:12 Damdred wrote:
So for instance tumble is above koshi and me?

I don't think I understand how you are reading this game. And it seems you were worried about the game being super easy and going for lynch bait people earlier.

You have two lynch bait by your definition in your list atm. And if you aren't super convinced about either rayn or eitojy wagon why are they even in your top four instead of with koshi and i.

You just seem mega passive atm and more wanting to argue people town instead of finding scum.

Calix your bugging me atm...


The only reason I spent so much time arguing about town!Tumble was because people were still not getting it. And I think my case for him being town was quite good. I did point out flaws in your theory which you never responded to, after all.

I don't care if I 'look passive' because I prefer this way of playing to my old style and don't want to be some Town Leader. Less stressful and I don't have to put a shit-load of effort in as town and be super-obviously innocent just to be called mafia at the end of it regardless.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 19 2017 22:19 GMT
#1192
As an aside to xata I think if rayn is scum it clears tumble slightly.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 19 2017 22:20 GMT
#1193
But you haven't scum hunted almost at all lately and you keep hinting that you think scum is in the top players and lynch bait your scared of. (Besides rels)

But none of them are in your posts and you don't seem to want to question then stm
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
March 19 2017 22:23 GMT
#1194
On March 20 2017 07:20 Damdred wrote:
But you haven't scum hunted almost at all lately and you keep hinting that you think scum is in the top players and lynch bait your scared of. (Besides rels)

But none of them are in your posts and you don't seem to want to question then stm


Yes, that's because it's a recent theory, barely a few hours old, hardly any of the players in question have been around and I haven't gotten around to filter-diving the players in question to investigate.

Because of that, I am going along with Xatalos' plan in the meanwhile.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 19 2017 22:24 GMT
#1195
On March 20 2017 07:19 Damdred wrote:
As an aside to xata I think if rayn is scum it clears tumble slightly.


Hm? I think it's the opposite. If rayn flips scum, then Tumble could be scum with some confidence?

Considering that Tumble's hesitation wasn't very logical in case of scum Tumble / town rayn. In that case scum Tumble should be easily willing to just continue going for rayn and look better after Malongo flips?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 19 2017 22:26 GMT
#1196
On March 20 2017 07:24 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2017 07:19 Damdred wrote:
As an aside to xata I think if rayn is scum it clears tumble slightly.


Hm? I think it's the opposite. If rayn flips scum, then Tumble could be scum with some confidence?

Considering that Tumble's hesitation wasn't very logical in case of scum Tumble / town rayn. In that case scum Tumble should be easily willing to just continue going for rayn and look better after Malongo flips?


I disagree, I think rayn might of spewed tw town early (maybe) with how tr based on bad reasoning. And even his tr now on tw doesn't feel like one on a partner necessarily
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
March 19 2017 22:31 GMT
#1197
On March 20 2017 07:26 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2017 07:24 Xatalos wrote:
On March 20 2017 07:19 Damdred wrote:
As an aside to xata I think if rayn is scum it clears tumble slightly.


Hm? I think it's the opposite. If rayn flips scum, then Tumble could be scum with some confidence?

Considering that Tumble's hesitation wasn't very logical in case of scum Tumble / town rayn. In that case scum Tumble should be easily willing to just continue going for rayn and look better after Malongo flips?


I disagree, I think rayn might of spewed tw town early (maybe) with how tr based on bad reasoning. And even his tr now on tw doesn't feel like one on a partner necessarily


Question. Why criticise me for town-reading/ defending TW (using his posts) and then go on to argue that TW is more likely town...using pre-flip associations? That's even LESS helpful because we don't know what rayn's alignment is.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 19 2017 22:34 GMT
#1198
Spewed tw town how?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 19 2017 22:35 GMT
#1199
On March 20 2017 07:20 Damdred wrote:
But you haven't scum hunted almost at all lately and you keep hinting that you think scum is in the top players and lynch bait your scared of. (Besides rels)

But none of them are in your posts and you don't seem to want to question then stm


I mean I think that's a reasonable conclusion considering how D1 went, the NK, etc. I also think Calix is more likely to be town than not because I agree with her that TW is playing like lynch bait, waffly town rather than super careless mafia, and she didn't really go after him when given the opportunity.
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 19 2017 22:36 GMT
#1200
Although I agree that Calix could be doing more pushing than she currently is on some of the people in her master plan scenario
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
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