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On March 18 2017 01:39 Xatalos wrote: Ohhh. So you were talking about what Damdred might have been thinking of me? bingo! | ||
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I know it's annoying when host wants to be lazy and use a voting thread but it's not much effort from us to put votes here too. | ||
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On March 18 2017 01:26 Tumblewood wrote: ah yes I forgot that part where townies normally agree with me and like me! you are saying smart shit, sometimes, and actively hunting, mostly, but I have no evidence so I am still cautious Thats not what i asked. | ||
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- Vets are too hard to read at this point - People who rayn is calling scum i think are town How do you come to conclsuion i am leaning town? | ||
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On March 18 2017 01:56 Xatalos wrote: I'll refresh myself from the brainfuck for a while. I'll be back later tonight. Damdred will lynch you for this, beware! | ||
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I find it quite irritating he got out of her scumread on disformation and then has nothing to say about anything in thread. Like there LITERALLY has to be mafia posting in the thread even in case of Rels + Onegu being 2/3 scum. | ||
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On March 18 2017 02:25 Calix wrote: [/spoiler]I don't like this post much. It basically feels like forced/fake aggro. Pushing a pool of players with any reason, no matter how (in)significant, just to push them. 1) The Damdred part is very weak. First of all, it's a bit too much to say that Eden's opening was obviously 100% NAI. In addition, even if it was 100% NAI, it's not a scummy thing to ask people for opinions on a sudden "big event". Their reaction could be possibly more significant than the event itself. Especially if there isn't much else to talk about yet. 2) On second thoughts, the Malongo part isn't that bad. Just not strong/convincing. 3) As for the points on me... I'm not sure how not decrypting his roleplaying posts or "not having an agenda" are scummy things to do. I would think the scum team would be much more likely to do either of those. I assumed the votes were troll votes since they were unreasoned and accompanied by Murloc sounds. (Rayn: I must have missed Koshi town reading you. Not sure if it was before my post though. In any case, an exception doesn't overrule the general sentiment.) -> At first I was half-convinced rayn was scum, but now I'm not sure again. I thought this post by Xatalos was really townie since his progression from "rayn's mafia" to "wait, not so sure" throughout the post seems genuine. [/QUOTE] Why? He called me scum after. | ||
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The point was if you're tunneling one person as mafia (which isn't unreasonable for a scum person to do) you don't focus on other people's posting. I know because i do that as mafia myself sometimes, well used to. And got caught for it. So it fits you being mafia (not saying you're mafia for it). | ||
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On March 18 2017 02:29 Calix wrote: The way the post was structured in terms of how he viewed you. So he has a general idea of how he views you, then he goes through your points and then expresses doubt. He didn't tailor his post to paint you as scum or revise the first few lines to fit his 'new' conclusion or anything like that. I think that's way more likely to come from town unless Xatalos consciously chose to structure his post that way as mafia. Yes, but he called me possible mafia after that. | ||
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I don't like this post much. It basically feels like forced/fake aggro. Pushing a pool of players with any reason, no matter how (in)significant, just to push them. IS completely untrue unless he explains how i am doing wht he says i am. | ||
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Things like "feels like forced/fake aggro", "just to push people for pushing them", "scummy tone", "this post is scummy", it doesn't make any sense" etc etc.. Those things do not mean anything unless you explain HOW the person is acting in such a way. Which is something Xatalos does not. Sure he comes to a "different" conclusion in the end but it still doesn't make any sense unexplained and i would like him to explain it. Because when not explained it's all just fluff. In a same way i could say "Calix is mafia because of scummy tone and one of her posts is scummy". Those can be scum traits but unless i tell people why, what's the point? | ||
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On March 18 2017 02:34 Calix wrote: I don't think that's relevant. I found that a really townie post. Not much more to say about it. I'm not expecting you to agree with my logic though. I just tend to pick up on individual posts. Going back to your earlier point, you're correct that I need to revise my reads. Having 3/4 of the scummers among Malongo/ Eden/ Rels/ Onegu is extremely unlikely which means I'm being too lenient with my town-reads. But I would still lynch among those four right now since none of them have town potential atm. Then at least vote for Malongo. | ||
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On March 18 2017 02:38 Calix wrote: Eh, I don't agree. I feel like you sometimes conflate illogical posts/ actions with them being scummy when town are also illogical, say stupid shit, don't read properly, have preconceived biases, etc. So I don't see how Damdred asking a dumb question alone makes him mafia. You've made your point but it lacks that "this is how it helps mafia" point for me to find it persuasive. And I don't see how Xatalos saying that is mafia by itself either. Being wrong isn't a scum tell unless it's done to push some kind of agenda and I don't see that. I have never said Damdred asked a dumb question. I said Damdred asked a question that he should already know the answer to (in regards of what it makes of disformation's alignment). The question can never achieve anything because he should be able to make a judgement call on disfo's alignment even without the question. If i asked you "How old are you? Plz answer this is an alignment indigative question." that's basically the same thing Damdred did (except Damdred's question was worse because the possible answers he "gave out" were all wrong). Nothing you say can possibly help me figure out your alignment in case i am town. On March 18 2017 02:39 Tumblewood wrote: magic + Show Spoiler + the EXTREMELY ELABORATE thought process is basically that. "oh, hm rayn's pushing for info. that seems pretty reasonable, he might be town" also I stated vets were too hard to read when we were 4 hours into the game okay, makes sense. | ||
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