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On March 17 2017 10:14 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2017 10:09 Calix wrote:On March 17 2017 10:07 darthfoley wrote:On March 17 2017 09:19 Malongo wrote:On March 17 2017 09:15 darthfoley wrote:
Salutations friends! May the odds be ever in our favor because we have such wonderful mods! I hate that quote. ##vote darthfoley Reading the thread enough to vote, but not posting anything of substance. #LurkModeInitiated Is Raynpelikoneet also scummy to you? If not, why? About as null as possible. The few times I have played with rayn, he's been NK N0/1, so maybe this trolling style is a way of furthering himself in the game. You equated his playstyle with Koshi's in the scum QT last game, and I can kinda see the similarities: brash, in your face, takes charge etc. He's also quite good at it, so I don't really understand the scum!rayn motivation to trolling early on, unless he just doesn't give a shit for some reason. I always feel like mafia is in the best position if they control the topic of conversation, which he hasn't even tried to do. He's also not helping town at all, so although I have some theorycraft of optimal mafia play, he's super null
I also see it as null, just mildly annoying. It would be an extremely lame scum tactic but that's about it.
You seem to remember the scum Skype chat better than I do. I can't remember what I said in that, lol.
Also I'm pretty sure I am already hitting three pages with this post. I should probably go to bed soon and stop spamming.
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On March 17 2017 17:49 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2017 08:48 Calix wrote:On March 17 2017 08:45 Koshi wrote:
disformation hasn't made a really bad post yet. Damdred made 2. Who needs one really bad post when you can have a generally crappy overall filter? Kinda surprised you haven't picked up on how incredibly defensive disformation was tbqh. His opening posts were blendy, then he segued into a hard-to-follow discussion, then reacted poorly to my 'questioning' and then fucked off. I don't see how Damdred is comparable. I have a huge problem with this post, as none of that makes me scum and calix knows this. context: she was a cohost in my last town game where I was super defensive and reacting bad to pressure a lot. I actually nuked myself in the end. I kinda like that she put '' around the questioning, because the whole line of that was posting something about me that was not true and then scumreading me, when I call her out on that. + Show Spoiler +On March 17 2017 07:43 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2017 07:42 disformation wrote:On March 17 2017 07:37 Calix wrote:On March 17 2017 07:34 disformation wrote:On March 17 2017 07:28 Damdred wrote:
What Eden did though is wifom right up his alley, soon kind of ignores it and will wait patiently for him to come back and interact with.
What do you think of it though dis? Scum? Bad town? Obviously you have an opinion who? eden or xata? dont think i have played with eden before. opening is 50/50. tries to give the thread something to work with and gtfos. it is mechanical/setup talk though, so easy to do as scum. xata biting immediately is only something i found after reading his posts like 3 times with a "why could he be scum" mindset. That's a lot of words for "his claim is NAI" fam. Why is Xat's response more likely scum than town? Where did I say that Xat's response is more likely scum? I said I read his filter with a "why could he be scum" mindset, to see where damdred could be coming from. -.- You said earlier that the only thing you found was the smiley thing so when you made the Xat comment, I assumed that was a scum-read. But since you're not claiming that, you might as well explain what you DID get from his filter. On March 17 2017 07:46 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2017 07:44 disformation wrote:On March 17 2017 07:43 Calix wrote:On March 17 2017 07:42 disformation wrote:On March 17 2017 07:37 Calix wrote:On March 17 2017 07:34 disformation wrote:On March 17 2017 07:28 Damdred wrote:
What Eden did though is wifom right up his alley, soon kind of ignores it and will wait patiently for him to come back and interact with.
What do you think of it though dis? Scum? Bad town? Obviously you have an opinion who? eden or xata? dont think i have played with eden before. opening is 50/50. tries to give the thread something to work with and gtfos. it is mechanical/setup talk though, so easy to do as scum. xata biting immediately is only something i found after reading his posts like 3 times with a "why could he be scum" mindset. That's a lot of words for "his claim is NAI" fam. Why is Xat's response more likely scum than town? Where did I say that Xat's response is more likely scum? I said I read his filter with a "why could he be scum" mindset, to see where damdred could be coming from. -.- You said earlier that the only thing you found was the smiley thing so when you made the Xat comment, I assumed that was a scum-read. But since you're not claiming that, you might as well explain what you DID get from his filter. wtf that smiley thing was damdy and I already explained what i got from the filter. Your tone seems hostile here which is uncalled for since all I did was ask if you had anything from your Xatalos filter-dive. I don't see how that warrants your 'wtf' Can you guys explain your TR on her? Cause I think her push on me is a scum push and otherwise she only has posted a bunch, most of which ended in her calling everyone town or going nowhere.
Using a game where I already knew your alignment is retarded, especially as I am more used to seeing you in obs QT and not in-game. I also don't see how this makes you town as opposed to it being NAI.
I don't want an answer to that btw. Just stop bitching/ OMGUSing and actually contribute something. This would literally address half of my case against you which is that you're responding to people but not doing anything.
FWIW I picked up on you because it initially felt like you were blending, then when I was reading the chat, you stuck out to me due to your tone compared to everyone else and I pushed there. Simple stuff.
"most of which ended in her calling everyone town"
Explain scum motivation for calling multiple people town this early on and stating that I do not want to lynch them today. I'd like to see the inevitable bullshit which is sure to come.
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On March 17 2017 18:03 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2017 17:58 Calix wrote:On March 17 2017 17:49 disformation wrote:On March 17 2017 08:48 Calix wrote:On March 17 2017 08:45 Koshi wrote:
disformation hasn't made a really bad post yet. Damdred made 2. Who needs one really bad post when you can have a generally crappy overall filter? Kinda surprised you haven't picked up on how incredibly defensive disformation was tbqh. His opening posts were blendy, then he segued into a hard-to-follow discussion, then reacted poorly to my 'questioning' and then fucked off. I don't see how Damdred is comparable. I have a huge problem with this post, as none of that makes me scum and calix knows this. context: she was a cohost in my last town game where I was super defensive and reacting bad to pressure a lot. I actually nuked myself in the end. I kinda like that she put '' around the questioning, because the whole line of that was posting something about me that was not true and then scumreading me, when I call her out on that. + Show Spoiler +On March 17 2017 07:43 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2017 07:42 disformation wrote:On March 17 2017 07:37 Calix wrote:On March 17 2017 07:34 disformation wrote:On March 17 2017 07:28 Damdred wrote:
What Eden did though is wifom right up his alley, soon kind of ignores it and will wait patiently for him to come back and interact with.
What do you think of it though dis? Scum? Bad town? Obviously you have an opinion who? eden or xata? dont think i have played with eden before. opening is 50/50. tries to give the thread something to work with and gtfos. it is mechanical/setup talk though, so easy to do as scum. xata biting immediately is only something i found after reading his posts like 3 times with a "why could he be scum" mindset. That's a lot of words for "his claim is NAI" fam. Why is Xat's response more likely scum than town? Where did I say that Xat's response is more likely scum? I said I read his filter with a "why could he be scum" mindset, to see where damdred could be coming from. -.- You said earlier that the only thing you found was the smiley thing so when you made the Xat comment, I assumed that was a scum-read. But since you're not claiming that, you might as well explain what you DID get from his filter. On March 17 2017 07:46 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2017 07:44 disformation wrote:On March 17 2017 07:43 Calix wrote:On March 17 2017 07:42 disformation wrote:On March 17 2017 07:37 Calix wrote:On March 17 2017 07:34 disformation wrote:On March 17 2017 07:28 Damdred wrote:
What Eden did though is wifom right up his alley, soon kind of ignores it and will wait patiently for him to come back and interact with.
What do you think of it though dis? Scum? Bad town? Obviously you have an opinion who? eden or xata? dont think i have played with eden before. opening is 50/50. tries to give the thread something to work with and gtfos. it is mechanical/setup talk though, so easy to do as scum. xata biting immediately is only something i found after reading his posts like 3 times with a "why could he be scum" mindset. That's a lot of words for "his claim is NAI" fam. Why is Xat's response more likely scum than town? Where did I say that Xat's response is more likely scum? I said I read his filter with a "why could he be scum" mindset, to see where damdred could be coming from. -.- You said earlier that the only thing you found was the smiley thing so when you made the Xat comment, I assumed that was a scum-read. But since you're not claiming that, you might as well explain what you DID get from his filter. wtf that smiley thing was damdy and I already explained what i got from the filter. Your tone seems hostile here which is uncalled for since all I did was ask if you had anything from your Xatalos filter-dive. I don't see how that warrants your 'wtf' Can you guys explain your TR on her? Cause I think her push on me is a scum push and otherwise she only has posted a bunch, most of which ended in her calling everyone town or going nowhere. Using a game where I already knew your alignment is retarded, especially as I am more used to seeing you in obs QT and not in-game. I also don't see how this makes you town as opposed to it being NAI. I don't want an answer to that btw. Just stop bitching/ OMGUSing and actually contribute something. This would literally address half of my case against you which is that you're responding to people but not doing anything. FWIW I picked up on you because it initially felt like you were blending, then when I was reading the chat, you stuck out to me due to your tone compared to everyone else and I pushed there. Simple stuff. "most of which ended in her calling everyone town" Explain scum motivation for calling multiple people town this early on and stating that I do not want to lynch them today. I'd like to see the inevitable bullshit which is sure to come. btdt did the same thing (seeing that i am very defensive / don't react to pressure very well as host/cohost and then using it against me as scum) so i dont think it is retarded at all. shitty pushes on me generally come from scum more often that from town. i thought your case against me was that you dont like my tone? where do you say that your problem is me not contributing anything?
K but I'm not pushing you to make you tilt. If you read, you'll see that I am literally asking you to contribute. Nice try at avoiding my request, can't answer it?
I said early on that you 'were on the defense a lot'. Looking at that now, I guess that doesn't really convey my "you're not contributing much of your own" point though.
+ Show Spoiler +Explain scum motivation for calling multiple people town this early on and stating that I do not want to lynch them today. I'd like to see the inevitable bullshit which is sure to come.
Are you scum-reading DF, for example? Do you have any opinions on Xatalos and Damdred? Damdred's train? Malongo not voting on the main trains? raynpelikoneet's latest post??? Like come on, this is basic-bitch-tier.
Seriously, you have 2 pages of filter and you have yet to do anything game-solving. Amazing. Meanwhile I - the supposed ""mafia"" - am running circles around your bitch arse.
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On March 17 2017 18:05 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2017 17:58 Calix wrote:
Explain scum motivation for calling multiple people town this early on and stating that I do not want to lynch them today. I'd like to see the inevitable bullshit which is sure to come. 1) Push someone weak so you have a scum read 2) get lazy and give the rest lazy town reads 3) "look how much work i already did" if shit happens you can still easily backtrack, since its early and the trs where fairly weak in the first place
You've never been mislynched and you know I know this yet you're trying to claim that you're 'weak'.
Calling bullshit. I was 100% the first person to scum-read you and the only person who really agrees with me is Xatalos.
The rest of your reasons are painting my actions in a scummy light with no backing. Try again.
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On March 17 2017 18:07 disformation wrote:Brings me to another point: for me being fairly NAI which you admitted here: Show nested quote +On March 17 2017 08:01 Calix wrote:On March 17 2017 07:58 disformation wrote:On March 17 2017 07:56 Calix wrote:On March 17 2017 07:54 disformation wrote:
*sigh*
Like xata had like 3 posts at this time, so the only reason (imo) damdy could have had to SR xata would have been in the reaction about the setup stuff. which is possible to come from scum. i personally went bleh.
which is why went like "well its better than smilies, but still crap" (which is why i didnt do anything about it)
in the opposite direction is the question whether damdies "push" on xata could be a scum push, but upon his explanation and no vote being in the voting thread I think its more likely damdy wanted to get some discussion/shit started. Okay, I'm starting to think you're mafia from your reactions here. Nothing to do with what you're saying, really, it's more that you sound very tense and defensive and like you have a massive stick up your arse for no real reason once people started engaging with you. It's a different vibe from what I get from Damdred and Xatalos who seem more chill and willing to get shit done. ##vote disformation #selfmeta: read any of my games. they are found in my profile. =D Sure, it's possible I am just misreading you based on something that's NAI for you...but I feel like the chat was more chill and then you disrupted that vibe and you're on the defense a lot. So I'm more inclined to think you're mafia until you actually do something, lol. You seem pretty bend on calling me scum, without room for consideration.
I've said about three times now that I am willing to reconsider if you ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING.
You keep painting me as scum...instead of doing the something.
Given this, I really don't see how this makes sense from town POV.
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This is kinda where I am at with reads.
Damdred
Xatalos
DeepBlueSea89
Koshi
+ Show Spoiler +Even if you think Damdred/ Xatalos are mafia, they're still doing stuff and that's better than 90% of the players so killing them on D1 is sub-optimal play.
raynpelikoneet + Show Spoiler +Mostly for his Batman post where he takes some stances on the players.
Malongo + Show Spoiler +Initially liked his paranoia over the trains (having two tight wagons this early is notable) but would have to see more elaboration on this idea to tell for sure.
[Eden1892/ Onegu/ Rels] + Show Spoiler +I don't consider claims to be AI.
Tumblewood + Show Spoiler +I feel like his posts have more mafia motivation than the other nulls (e.g., popping in, giving some easy town-reads and then criticising Damdred's town circle - it's more of a mafia narrative than a town one atm but nothing definitive).
darthfoley + Show Spoiler +I'm biased towards scum-reading darthfoley so I'll try to give him a fair shot when he appears again.
disformation + Show Spoiler +Same here. I am going to let disformation do whatever and focus elsewhere for the time being.
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On March 17 2017 21:20 disformation wrote:
back to working.
random thought on xata though:
i dont think it would make sense for both xata and calix to be scum and go ham on me like that.
Question.
You have similar reads to myself. Has this factored into your analysis and if not, why?
Some of them are weirdly similar. Your TW read is almost identical to mine.
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On March 17 2017 22:40 Damdred wrote:
I think mal posts are suspect and I think he ignored my post about who the scum were on dis and my wagons at the time having an easy time. Id put him in the scummy category.
Tumble is interesting I think, chides me for trying to form a town circle when that's exactly what I do early every game and I'm almost always right. I think it's just super weird way to go about it especially without explaining why I'm wrong on the vets I wanted to town read. Bottom of null for me.
As for your question xata, he just has no deviation from his story idk if I see scum doing it without trying to backtrack meh.
Also where did deep go, just kinda peace out once people stopped suspecting him and hasn't been back. Not saying lunch able just worrying.
On March 17 2017 22:51 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2017 22:40 Damdred wrote:
I think mal posts are suspect and I think he ignored my post about who the scum were on dis and my wagons at the time having an easy time. Id put him in the scummy category.
Tumble is interesting I think, chides me for trying to form a town circle when that's exactly what I do early every game and I'm almost always right. I think it's just super weird way to go about it especially without explaining why I'm wrong on the vets I wanted to town read. Bottom of null for me.
As for your question xata, he just has no deviation from his story idk if I see scum doing it without trying to backtrack meh.
Also where did deep go, just kinda peace out once people stopped suspecting him and hasn't been back. Not saying lunch able just worrying. mal is fairly 50/50 to me. On one hand I kinda like him coming in being like "your wagons suck, imma make my own wagon with black jack and coke", on the other nothing he really says has a whole lot of substance. Like incredible hard to tell if he is town, really not liking the wagons, or if he is scum not wanting to comment on them.
Do you have any other reasons to scum-read DF outside of him ignoring your discussion? I would like to see DF/ Malongo get stuck in more but that is about it.
On the one hand, deviating from the status quo gets Malongo attention. On the other hand, he's just voting for raynpelikoneet because of his early-game trolling (which reminds him of another game). So he's not risking much there since there's no pressure for him to persuade people to vote in that direction and it doesn't help his stated "don't lynch Damdred/ disformation" goal. It's weak.
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On March 17 2017 23:20 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2017 22:56 Calix wrote:On March 17 2017 22:40 Damdred wrote:
I think mal posts are suspect and I think he ignored my post about who the scum were on dis and my wagons at the time having an easy time. Id put him in the scummy category.
Tumble is interesting I think, chides me for trying to form a town circle when that's exactly what I do early every game and I'm almost always right. I think it's just super weird way to go about it especially without explaining why I'm wrong on the vets I wanted to town read. Bottom of null for me.
As for your question xata, he just has no deviation from his story idk if I see scum doing it without trying to backtrack meh.
Also where did deep go, just kinda peace out once people stopped suspecting him and hasn't been back. Not saying lunch able just worrying. On March 17 2017 22:51 disformation wrote:On March 17 2017 22:40 Damdred wrote:
I think mal posts are suspect and I think he ignored my post about who the scum were on dis and my wagons at the time having an easy time. Id put him in the scummy category.
Tumble is interesting I think, chides me for trying to form a town circle when that's exactly what I do early every game and I'm almost always right. I think it's just super weird way to go about it especially without explaining why I'm wrong on the vets I wanted to town read. Bottom of null for me.
As for your question xata, he just has no deviation from his story idk if I see scum doing it without trying to backtrack meh.
Also where did deep go, just kinda peace out once people stopped suspecting him and hasn't been back. Not saying lunch able just worrying. mal is fairly 50/50 to me. On one hand I kinda like him coming in being like "your wagons suck, imma make my own wagon with black jack and coke", on the other nothing he really says has a whole lot of substance. Like incredible hard to tell if he is town, really not liking the wagons, or if he is scum not wanting to comment on them. Do you have any other reasons to scum-read DF outside of him ignoring your discussion? I would like to see DF/ Malongo get stuck in more but that is about it. On the one hand, deviating from the status quo gets Malongo attention. On the other hand, he's just voting for raynpelikoneet because of his early-game trolling (which reminds him of another game). So he's not risking much there since there's no pressure for him to persuade people to vote in that direction and it doesn't help his stated "don't lynch Damdred/ disformation" goal. It's weak. Well, it gives df a higher chance at being scum than tw or mal, so yes. Not sure about the mal stuff, are you saying it is more likely scum than 50/50, or are you agreeing on the 50/50?
Now that I'm not in OMGUSville, I'm not as sure on DF as I was.
I was considering whether Malongo's words line up with his actions and concluded no, so the former.
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On March 17 2017 23:24 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2017 15:10 Xatalos wrote:On March 17 2017 11:29 Tumblewood wrote:On March 17 2017 08:54 Damdred wrote:
As for your reads Calix yeah I agree.
Koshi, xata, calix, deep, damdred is a strong town base right now.
Deeps follow up postings (while I strongly disagree what he says makes me scum), have been pretty thoughtful. And pretty good. ik damdred likes town circles but come on this is too early to read vets calix and deepblue are eh but who am i to criticize that. just xata/koshi/damdy/ rayn are way too early to read Rayn, in town circle? Hasn't he been just null/scum read by everyone? What were your reads on me/Koski/Damdred then? ya but he's still too early to read I was null on all of them. there are reasons I could claim scum/town on one of them but they are pretty lame
Since the dead pigeon outside my window has done more scum-hunting than you have, don't hold back then.
Going "it's too early to read XYZ" is anti-town.
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On March 18 2017 01:18 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2017 00:56 darthfoley wrote:On March 18 2017 00:54 Tumblewood wrote:
you can poke holes in my TvT argument but I know I'm right, I've never missed a read like this. and if you are baffled by how else disfo could respond to an accusation, look at what I've done all game can you summarize your thoughts on the game atm: lynch trains/reads/no lynch circle for you, etc? calix & disfo are town I liked dbs but that read's back to null again after a disappointing continuation malongo is a slight town lean I like rayn and xata by gut buuut I can't explain why Damdred is ok? Koshi too no one who is actually playing is striking me as scummy so I might just park my vote on onegu
Skimming the thread while catching up but TW might be town for that last line. I'm having similar thoughts about the thread too TBH.
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I hate it when I skim-read to catch up because there's like, six pages in ~1 hour and most of it turns out to be a rehash of the Xat/ disfo miscommunication thing so you'll have to reread again.
What I did get out of that was disfo doing shit without needing someone ramming a stick up his arse, at least.
##unvote
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PSA: Eden actually posted in that mess.
On March 18 2017 00:19 darthfoley wrote:
on page 15 but I don't like how disformation is scum reading me for one one-liner early game when I realized I was wrong about something.
also the fact that I am somewhat suspicious of calix, disformation brings up kinda the same points on her, then scum reads both of us. just weird progression overall.
I agree with those who said Tumblewood's entrance was scummy. His initial reasoning for any reads seemed pretty bleh
A not-terrible post from darthfoley. #371 (post about Mal) is also similar to what I am thinking. Maybe too similar? Dunno, I feel like I am agreeing with too many people this game already or vice versa, lol.
2. I get so fucking triggered anytime one of you fuckers uses anal/cursing/emotion to town read someone. It's literally the easiest thing to do over forum mafia. ASK LIGHTNINGSTRIKE THEN ASK ME AND RELS IF IT IS A TOWN TELL
Ahahahahaha
+ Show Spoiler +On March 18 2017 00:31 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2017 23:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:Okay i'll stop because i don't like put 1 hr effort into my posts that could be written in 5 minutes. First of all there is this: On March 17 2017 07:28 Damdred wrote:
What Eden did though is wifom right up his alley, soon kind of ignores it and will wait patiently for him to come back and interact with.
What do you think of it though dis? Scum? Bad town? Obviously you have an opinion Now the red part doesn't make any sense since the green part is the correct answer here. There is absolutely no reason to ask disformation WHAT he thinks of what Eden did. You either call him mafia for making something out of something NAI (which disformation didn't) or you realize it doesn't mean anything. If you want to ask something, you ask "why are you making something out of a thing that's completely not alignment indigative?". Basically what Damdred did is he gave disformation a question where every answer disformation can possibly give is wrong. And that's not what townies do. On March 17 2017 22:40 Damdred wrote:
Also where did deep go, just kinda peace out once people stopped suspecting him and hasn't been back. Not saying lunch able just worrying. Also this is very much bs right here. He is either saying: - DBS is a suspect because he hasn't posted for 12 hrs (which is jsut bullshit), or - it's not actually alignment indicative (which makes the "read" bullshit)
Second order of business is this post: On March 17 2017 10:18 Malongo wrote:On March 17 2017 10:06 darthfoley wrote:
Oh! Also don't like Malongo I think we are in the same team tbh. You quote still sucks anyways.My general read is pretty weak at this point. I don´t like how fast Damdred and disformation are piling up ealry. I would rather find a third way because we may be making mafia life too easy. So I propose lynching Ryan. Not that I find him specially scummy but I don´t want to play with a troll for a second time. ##ryanpelikoneetEverything else es just nonsense for me at this point. I have huge problems with the red parts in this post. Last game Malongo played he went straight to scumhunting. This game (which is also closer to his last scumgame here). The red flags are: - There is no reason to call Darthfoley town just because he is calling Malongo mafia - There is no reason to assume disformation and Damdred are town just because there are people voting for them The same thing appears in Malongo's scumgame. He finds some NAI narrative that makes no sense at all and makes "reads" based on it. He isn't basically trying to find mafia. He is just talking nonsense. The third thing that sticks out to me is Xatalos. There are a couple of problems in his posting: - He thinks i am trolling (which he should know i never am), well not really trolling, he thought i wasn't saying anything when clearly i was in every single one of my posts - I don't see any sort of direction in his posting, basically i don't understand what he is doing - He has somehow come to a conclusion that everyone is scum/null reading me which is not true since only Malongo is "scum"reading me and Koshi is clearly townreading me
Other than that: DBS is quite clearly town Koshi is town Calix is most likely just over-eager town I don't have any problems with disformation I don't have any problems with Darthfoley I don't have any problems with Tumblewood Onegu is his basic non-entity-self I somehow thought Eden could possibly be town for his opener but i am not sure why anymore. So idk about him. I don't like this post much. It basically feels like forced/fake aggro. Pushing a pool of players with any reason, no matter how (in)significant, just to push them. 1) The Damdred part is very weak. First of all, it's a bit too much to say that Eden's opening was obviously 100% NAI. In addition, even if it was 100% NAI, it's not a scummy thing to ask people for opinions on a sudden "big event". Their reaction could be possibly more significant than the event itself. Especially if there isn't much else to talk about yet. 2) On second thoughts, the Malongo part isn't that bad. Just not strong/convincing. 3) As for the points on me... I'm not sure how not decrypting his roleplaying posts or "not having an agenda" are scummy things to do. I would think the scum team would be much more likely to do either of those. I assumed the votes were troll votes since they were unreasoned and accompanied by Murloc sounds. (Rayn: I must have missed Koshi town reading you. Not sure if it was before my post though. In any case, an exception doesn't overrule the general sentiment.) -> At first I was half-convinced rayn was scum, but now I'm not sure again.
I thought this post by Xatalos was really townie since his progression from "rayn's mafia" to "wait, not so sure" throughout the post seems genuine.
This disfo/ Xat thing seems incredibly overblown. I hope we're finished with that now, lol.
Anyway, I'm a bit conflicted at the moment. On the one hand, most players seem townie and are agreeing with each other, having similar thoughts, etc. I can see TW, DF, disformation, etc, being townies. On the other hand, it seems too easy for the low-posters to have the majority of the scummers. Stellar logic here, I know, but whatever.
Dunno, maybe I am just paranoid.
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On March 18 2017 02:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Maybe Calix is mafia after all. Or Tumblewood. Idk.
I find it quite irritating he got out of her scumread on disformation and then has nothing to say about anything in thread. Like there LITERALLY has to be mafia posting in the thread even in case of Rels + Onegu being 2/3 scum.
I was catching up again as I said in my post?
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The way the post was structured in terms of how he viewed you. So he has a general idea of how he views you, then he goes through your points and then expresses doubt. He didn't tailor his post to paint you as scum or revise the first few lines to fit his 'new' conclusion or anything like that.
I think that's way more likely to come from town unless Xatalos consciously chose to structure his post that way as mafia.
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On March 18 2017 02:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2017 02:29 Calix wrote:
The way the post was structured in terms of how he viewed you. So he has a general idea of how he views you, then he goes through your points and then expresses doubt. He didn't tailor his post to paint you as scum or revise the first few lines to fit his 'new' conclusion or anything like that.
I think that's way more likely to come from town unless Xatalos consciously chose to structure his post that way as mafia. Yes, but he called me possible mafia after that.
I don't think that's relevant. I found that a really townie post. Not much more to say about it.
I'm not expecting you to agree with my logic though. I just tend to pick up on individual posts.
Going back to your earlier point, you're correct that I need to revise my reads. Having 3/4 of the scummers among Malongo/ Eden/ Rels/ Onegu is extremely unlikely which means I'm being too lenient with my town-reads. But I would still lynch among those four right now since none of them have town potential atm.
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Eh, I don't agree. I feel like you sometimes conflate illogical posts/ actions with them being scummy when town are also illogical, say stupid shit, don't read properly, have preconceived biases, etc.
So I don't see how Damdred asking a dumb question alone makes him mafia. You've made your point but it lacks that "this is how it helps mafia" point for me to find it persuasive.
And I don't see how Xatalos saying that is mafia by itself either. Being wrong isn't a scum tell unless it's done to push some kind of agenda and I don't see that.
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On March 18 2017 02:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2017 02:34 Calix wrote:On March 18 2017 02:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 18 2017 02:29 Calix wrote:
The way the post was structured in terms of how he viewed you. So he has a general idea of how he views you, then he goes through your points and then expresses doubt. He didn't tailor his post to paint you as scum or revise the first few lines to fit his 'new' conclusion or anything like that.
I think that's way more likely to come from town unless Xatalos consciously chose to structure his post that way as mafia. Yes, but he called me possible mafia after that. I don't think that's relevant. I found that a really townie post. Not much more to say about it. I'm not expecting you to agree with my logic though. I just tend to pick up on individual posts. Going back to your earlier point, you're correct that I need to revise my reads. Having 3/4 of the scummers among Malongo/ Eden/ Rels/ Onegu is extremely unlikely which means I'm being too lenient with my town-reads. But I would still lynch among those four right now since none of them have town potential atm. Then at least vote for Malongo.
Sure.
##vote Malongo
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So he asked a meaningless question which didn't advance the conversation then?
I think I get your point but I don't get how it makes him mafia and I'm not sure that I'm going to. To save you the bother of explaining yourself yet again, I will keep your posts in mind when I filter-dive later.
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On March 18 2017 02:50 Calix wrote:
So he asked a meaningless question which didn't advance the conversation then?
I think I get your point but I don't get how it makes him mafia and I'm not sure that I'm going to. To save you the bother of explaining yourself yet again, I will keep your posts in mind when I filter-dive later.
^^this was about Damdred
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