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Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
April 01 2017 22:29 GMT
#3461
On April 02 2017 03:08 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2017 02:06 Damdred wrote:
Disfo why does d2 just point to xata being scum? Like say you are town, Eden is scum and xata is scum.

Xata gets 3 votes, you get three votes and eden has 4.

Why wouldn't koshi jump off Eden and into disf (you) and make it a virtual tie and save a team mmate for another day?

I mean the logic you used to paint scum on xata is flawed because it can be directly road to you as well.

Also why were you so adament about Eden on lynch day but before that point you were wishy washy really?

not sure i 100% understand this.
koshi was already part of creating the 4-3-3 scenario with his vote on xata?
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2017 06:10 beentheredonethat wrote:
Vote count


raynpelikoneet (0) xatalos, calix, koshi
eden1892 (6): damdred, disformation, raynpelikoneet,koshi, onegu, xatalos, darthfoley, Calix
disformation (1): Calix, darthfoley, xatalos, Tumblewood
AMG (0): Tumblewood
Koshi (0): Tumblewood
Xatalos (3): raynpelikoneet, AMG, Koshi

Not voting (1): Eden1892


Currently, eden1892 is set to be lynched!

i think it was:
eden (4): damdy, disfo, oneg, xata
disfo (3): calix, df, tw
xata (3): rayn, amg, koshi

so koshi switching to me still would have been a dead eden. thread consent was also not that much behind lynching me (see by df and calix switching off me later). both xata and koshi switching to me and pushing hard could have worked, but would have been fairly suspicious imo. as in two ppl trying to get the lynch of scum pretty hard.
the xata bus by koshi was less risky (since they also control one of the votes/Pushes on xata and gave xata a metric fuckton of town points.

@eden:
was wishy washy on eden d1.
eden posts a horribly scummy post n1.
the guy pointing out why/how that post was super scummy dies.
guy who did the scummy post doesnt show up.
how do you not vote that?


And the reason youbdidnt gain ground was because it felt like couldn't get another wagon traction. If let's say ou get into a dead heat with Eden wagon.

(CONJECTURE) Calix and xata probably never move which meand rayn decides lynch.

Which btw this theory of xata and eden being prefered lynch targets would mean mafia wanted to lynch 0 town that day
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
April 01 2017 23:58 GMT
#3462
On April 02 2017 07:21 Damdred wrote:
Also voting xata for clarity ^^. Teehee


I bet that caused some tables to be flipped in ObsQT roflmao

+ Show Spoiler +
Almost choked myself for a bit. But immediately went to check the actual voting thread since the vote didn't seem to match with your posts at all.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
April 02 2017 00:01 GMT
#3463
In any case..... I guess the game is over. I salute you, disfo, for putting up a nice fight today.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
April 02 2017 00:04 GMT
#3464
On April 02 2017 07:24 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2017 06:57 Xatalos wrote:
On April 01 2017 23:23 Damdred wrote:
Xata what was the point in going after rayn so early d2 over Eden really?

Like ritoky does has a good case on eden, I have a ok case that stretches two days on eden. So why not look at Eden more oor lynch him before rayn?

Disf why are you always so hesitant to really do things on your own the whole game without being prodded really? Your votes are also really stagnant even though you are here eod with shenanigans going to happen.

And how was it a backstab koshi voting you? I hate that wording you used because backstab implies friend/same team instead of an unknown meh.

Super annoying I thought i would be dead, kinda implies that disf is scum cause angbwould of been stupid easy lylo for xata


Not sure if I remember my D2 thoughts completely anymore, but I think I was most concerned about rayn at D2 start. He's hard to catch as scum, and he had already shown behavior related to his scumplay (pushing several weak cases with (fake?) confidence through D1 etc.), so I was pretty alarmed. I guess objectively looking Eden was the worst, and definitely deserved to be lynched, but there was still a chance he could flip town and in that case a huge single wagon on Eden would have been a giant waste of time. That being the case, I thought rayn was the most deserving of being the second wagon - until he claimed. Then the second wagon switched to me and I felt that was pretty fine, actually, so I focused mostly on how people pushed me rather than thinking of a third wagon (pretty pointless to have more than two). Koshi's attitude to me was definitely the most out of place, and it should have dropped him lower in my reads, but there was also what AMG, rayn etc were doing so that split my attention in several directions. In the end, I didn't reap the full benefits of the flow of D2 (=Koshi practically scumclaiming by going hard after me to save Eden), but it was still an OK day all around.


Yeah I can see that.

Alsovi have a theory why rayn wasn't blocked n2 but really meh.


The theory being? disfo and Koshi being away or something? Not sure if they were around at that time.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
April 02 2017 00:07 GMT
#3465
Well, disfo was posting during N2. Maybe they tried to RB the Cop instead and hoped rayn would do something useless (since his reads were quite a bit off or something?).
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
April 02 2017 00:08 GMT
#3466
At least rayn seemed to have Koshi and disfo as lock town during N2....
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
April 02 2017 00:10 GMT
#3467
So maybe the idea would have been something like: he's not going to target us (disfo/Koshi) - he might even target the Cop - and a protective jailing no longer makes sense, so it would be safe to kill a townie poster anyway? Kind of makes sense I guess.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
April 02 2017 00:11 GMT
#3468
And then rayn ended up jailing me.. rofl
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
April 02 2017 00:12 GMT
#3469
Too bad. If he had made a ninja move and jailed disfo, the game would have been over (I assume disfo carried the KP since Koshi was roleblocking).
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
April 02 2017 00:25 GMT
#3470
That's the basic idea.

Honestly unless you are going for ultimate swag over me Which is dumb xata if that's the case. There is no way amg should be the kkill.

If you are scum which I don't think atm xata would of been 100×Sadie with amg and afk meh.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
April 02 2017 00:26 GMT
#3471
I was actually hoping that one of amg I you xata was scum and would shoot me for arguing thebother way meh.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
April 02 2017 08:15 GMT
#3472
On April 02 2017 07:29 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2017 03:08 disformation wrote:
On April 02 2017 02:06 Damdred wrote:
Disfo why does d2 just point to xata being scum? Like say you are town, Eden is scum and xata is scum.

Xata gets 3 votes, you get three votes and eden has 4.

Why wouldn't koshi jump off Eden and into disf (you) and make it a virtual tie and save a team mmate for another day?

I mean the logic you used to paint scum on xata is flawed because it can be directly road to you as well.

Also why were you so adament about Eden on lynch day but before that point you were wishy washy really?

not sure i 100% understand this.
koshi was already part of creating the 4-3-3 scenario with his vote on xata?
On March 22 2017 06:10 beentheredonethat wrote:
Vote count


raynpelikoneet (0) xatalos, calix, koshi
eden1892 (6): damdred, disformation, raynpelikoneet,koshi, onegu, xatalos, darthfoley, Calix
disformation (1): Calix, darthfoley, xatalos, Tumblewood
AMG (0): Tumblewood
Koshi (0): Tumblewood
Xatalos (3): raynpelikoneet, AMG, Koshi

Not voting (1): Eden1892


Currently, eden1892 is set to be lynched!

i think it was:
eden (4): damdy, disfo, oneg, xata
disfo (3): calix, df, tw
xata (3): rayn, amg, koshi

so koshi switching to me still would have been a dead eden. thread consent was also not that much behind lynching me (see by df and calix switching off me later). both xata and koshi switching to me and pushing hard could have worked, but would have been fairly suspicious imo. as in two ppl trying to get the lynch of scum pretty hard.
the xata bus by koshi was less risky (since they also control one of the votes/Pushes on xata and gave xata a metric fuckton of town points.

@eden:
was wishy washy on eden d1.
eden posts a horribly scummy post n1.
the guy pointing out why/how that post was super scummy dies.
guy who did the scummy post doesnt show up.
how do you not vote that?


And the reason youbdidnt gain ground was because it felt like couldn't get another wagon traction. If let's say ou get into a dead heat with Eden wagon.

(CONJECTURE) Calix and xata probably never move which meand rayn decides lynch.

Which btw this theory of xata and eden being prefered lynch targets would mean mafia wanted to lynch 0 town that day

not sure i understand correctly.
i aldo thonk rayn was the preferred mafia lynch for that dsy. but he claimed.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
April 02 2017 08:19 GMT
#3473
On April 01 2017 23:40 Damdred wrote:
Also super hard as scum to go after a claimed powerrole you know is true as you and up looking worse. Point in xata favor for sure.

Hrm

Have seen scum do that before. think it was in nsm full metal alchemist.
was also their lynch target if i remember correctly.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
April 02 2017 14:38 GMT
#3474
Idk just tell me xata is scum disf. And if xata is scum why did scum decide that xata should be the second wagon over you when they had the chance?

And honestly what makes xata reaction to the wagon come from scum instead of town?
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
April 02 2017 17:16 GMT
#3475


Will be good to see the ObsQt and ScumQt.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
April 02 2017 17:42 GMT
#3476
Disf if your scum just tell me bro we can work this out so I can spite lynch xata today for past mistakes ^^.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
April 02 2017 17:43 GMT
#3477
Really do hope disf comes back though seriously kinda want to hhear what he has to say
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
April 02 2017 17:49 GMT
#3478
On April 03 2017 02:42 Damdred wrote:
Disf if your scum just tell me bro we can work this out so I can spite lynch xata today for past mistakes ^^.


Ouch. That would ruin my 10+ game record (I think?) of not being mislynched as town... At least I haven't been in a long, long time.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
April 02 2017 17:52 GMT
#3479
On April 03 2017 02:43 Damdred wrote:
Really do hope disf comes back though seriously kinda want to hhear what he has to say


Well, not sure what there is to be said at this point. Everything kind of fits with disfo being scum. Why rayn wasn't blocked (sort of makes sense since rayn was townreading disfo/Koshi), why I was pushed over Eden/disfo by Koshi (obviously to save his scummates) etc. etc.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
April 02 2017 17:59 GMT
#3480
Final Day Vote Count


disformation (2): Xatalos, Damdred
Xatalos (1): disformation

Not voting (0): -

Currently, disformation is set to be lynched in (at Sunday, Apr 02 9:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)).

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