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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 25 2017 21:45 GMT
#2881
Well, rayn could have blocked the RB, but it wouldn't matter in that case since the GF would still kill DF and stop him from actually performing his action (reporting the check).
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 25 2017 21:47 GMT
#2882
Well I guess Koshi isn't completely in the clear... DF made okay points. "The switch" had bothered me before as well.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 25 2017 21:48 GMT
#2883
On March 26 2017 06:47 Xatalos wrote:
Well I guess Koshi isn't completely in the clear... DF made okay points. "The switch" had bothered me before as well.

It's not the switch it's the reasons for it.
table for two on a tv tray
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 25 2017 21:48 GMT
#2884
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Where do you find these images ROFL

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"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 25 2017 21:51 GMT
#2885
On March 26 2017 06:30 darthfoley wrote:
[...]
I find his reasons to switch off Eden onto Xata to be relatively poor, then it's even weirder that he switches back on to Eden late for no explanation.

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On March 22 2017 06:05 Koshi wrote:
Hmm the Eden lynch is set in stone. TW/rayn/Damdred/Calix are lock town then. If 1 is mafia this is over. I can live with that.


Weird wording... why does it matter if the lynch is set in stone if you truly believe Xata is mafia? He even says he made 3 posts about Xata being mafia. Yet...

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On March 22 2017 06:18 Koshi wrote:
I'll explain myself better. I take a risk on Damdred and TW but I cba to fucking even doubts to reads anymore if Eden flips town. It is your own fucking fault they become untouchable.
[...]

Like he is fine with Eden being lynched because Eden is mafia but then he is angry because if Eden is mafia and some other person is town it's someone's fault????

It doesn't make much sense.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 25 2017 21:51 GMT
#2886
If Eden flips town*
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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 25 2017 21:52 GMT
#2887
On March 26 2017 06:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2017 06:47 Xatalos wrote:
Well I guess Koshi isn't completely in the clear... DF made okay points. "The switch" had bothered me before as well.

It's not the switch it's the reasons for it.


Hmm... I did sort of get the feeling that he just latched onto my wagon and justified it somehow afterwards. There's a reasonable scum motive in there - being prepared to bus Eden, but when seeing the chance to get a mislynch before him, jumping onto it with force. I don't think the reasoning he thought up was super bad in itself, just the timing / the way how he went about it.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 25 2017 21:54 GMT
#2888
I gotta sleep. I will be here for the whole day tomorrow.
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disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 25 2017 21:56 GMT
#2889
On March 26 2017 06:52 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2017 06:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 26 2017 06:47 Xatalos wrote:
Well I guess Koshi isn't completely in the clear... DF made okay points. "The switch" had bothered me before as well.

It's not the switch it's the reasons for it.


Hmm... I did sort of get the feeling that he just latched onto my wagon and justified it somehow afterwards. There's a reasonable scum motive in there - being prepared to bus Eden, but when seeing the chance to get a mislynch before him, jumping onto it with force. I don't think the reasoning he thought up was super bad in itself, just the timing / the way how he went about it.

also him moving to you made the votes like 4:3:3. i remember talking about that before.
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 25 2017 23:49 GMT
#2890
On March 26 2017 06:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
did you read anything i said last page? :D
Tumble.

the part about you jailing me? yeah
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 26 2017 05:47 GMT
#2891
since thread is dead I will post my plan of action and you can yell at me if you want
since we have 3 lynches to hit 2 scum, we lynch amg, disfo, damdred, in that order. if xata and koshi are town (most likely pair imo) then we win. if we wrote off one of those two too early we lose, but that's a chance we have to take
good times for all
AMG
Profile Joined March 2013
Australia298 Posts
March 26 2017 06:19 GMT
#2892
Its 5v2 right now. We get 2 lynches and if we managed to hit 1, we buy ourselves another.

I'd rather not lynch down a list.

Tumble, tell me your updated reads on disinformation and damdred. I'd like to know if anything has changed since D2.

Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 26 2017 06:45 GMT
#2893
On March 26 2017 15:19 AMG wrote:
Its 5v2 right now. We get 2 lynches and if we managed to hit 1, we buy ourselves another.

I'd rather not lynch down a list.

Tumble, tell me your updated reads on disinformation and damdred. I'd like to know if anything has changed since D2.


we can lynch down a list of the list is 3 people. if the scumteam is within those 3 we win and if it's not we lose, no matter what order we go
and I said in that order because I think Damdred has the best chance of proving his towniness for sure given some extra days, and also the best chance of being town.
since I did the association thing I have eliminated a few pairs involving disfo/damdred but looking at their filters is like reading the tax code
good times for all
AMG
Profile Joined March 2013
Australia298 Posts
March 26 2017 06:48 GMT
#2894
Right... and you place me at the top of your list, primarily due to the case you posted on me a couple pages back?
AMG
Profile Joined March 2013
Australia298 Posts
March 26 2017 06:49 GMT
#2895
Why are you so resigned to ruling out Koshi and Xata? If they're scum, saying "well played they win" is complete ass, the game is only half way done.
AMG
Profile Joined March 2013
Australia298 Posts
March 26 2017 06:53 GMT
#2896
On March 26 2017 15:45 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2017 15:19 AMG wrote:
Its 5v2 right now. We get 2 lynches and if we managed to hit 1, we buy ourselves another.

I'd rather not lynch down a list.

Tumble, tell me your updated reads on disinformation and damdred. I'd like to know if anything has changed since D2.


we can lynch down a list of the list is 3 people. if the scumteam is within those 3 we win and if it's not we lose, no matter what order we go
and I said in that order because I think Damdred has the best chance of proving his towniness for sure given some extra days, and also the best chance of being town.
since I did the association thing I have eliminated a few pairs involving disfo/damdred but looking at their filters is like reading the tax code


We don't just lynch down a damn list and if we win, we win. If you want to play a game that's already decided before you start, go find a pack of cards. We use every new piece of information and change our reads accordingly..


Rayn... I hope you appear soon. Tell me if i'm wasting my time speaking to this one.
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 26 2017 07:39 GMT
#2897
On March 26 2017 15:49 AMG wrote:
Why are you so resigned to ruling out Koshi and Xata? If they're scum, saying "well played they win" is complete ass, the game is only half way done.

what makes you think the list is absolutely not changing for the rest of the game? it's not likely to, but that is how townreads work
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 26 2017 07:42 GMT
#2898
words, as intended: guys I think we win if we do this. (so let's do it)
words, as interpreted by amg: ahhh, made a list. now I can kick back, relax, and change nothing ever

if you disagree with the list that's one thing, but stop arguing over the very idea of a list
good times for all
AMG
Profile Joined March 2013
Australia298 Posts
March 26 2017 07:54 GMT
#2899
On March 26 2017 16:42 Tumblewood wrote:
words, as intended: guys I think we win if we do this. (so let's do it)
words, as interpreted by amg: ahhh, made a list. now I can kick back, relax, and change nothing ever

if you disagree with the list that's one thing, but stop arguing over the very idea of a list



If you plan to change the list as you lynch down it, then whats the point of even posting a list in the first place. Just post the first name at the top and say that's where you want to start.

On March 26 2017 14:47 Tumblewood wrote:
since we have 3 lynches to hit 2 scum, we lynch amg, disfo, damdred, in that order. if xata and koshi are town (most likely pair imo) then we win. if we wrote off one of those two too early we lose, but that's a chance we have to take


On March 26 2017 15:45 Tumblewood wrote:
we can lynch down a list of the list is 3 people. if the scumteam is within those 3 we win and if it's not we lose, no matter what order we go


You're completely discounting lynching outside of the 3 of us. Don't put words in my mouth.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 26 2017 12:29 GMT
#2900
So rayn, what's your opinion on today's lynch?

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I have a mighty urge to just sheep you, so I hope you're right


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Personally I'd maybe lean towards AMG, but not sure. Should probably try to see which teams within AMG/Koshi/disfo/Tumble make sense. I very highly doubt Damdred is ever scum, for previously mentioned reasons, so the options are limited to those four now I guess.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
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