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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
March 22 2017 08:43 GMT
#2281
Why wouldnt it?
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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 22 2017 08:45 GMT
#2282
Hmm... Where does that read? Can't find the order of actions.

But if that's the case then at least if you hit RB he can't block the Cop.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
March 22 2017 08:47 GMT
#2283
Well i thought that was 100% clear. Like if vigi shoots and dies ofc the shot goes through.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
March 22 2017 08:52 GMT
#2284
Coyld you post your updated scumreads Xatalos?
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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 22 2017 08:53 GMT
#2285
Vigi is a bit of a special case though. But I guess that makes sense.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 22 2017 08:55 GMT
#2286
If I had to shoot 2 people right at this moment it'd be AMG+Onegu. Neither helped getting Eden lynched, AMG even pushed against it, and POE doesn't leave much room elsewhere.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 22 2017 09:00 GMT
#2287
If the scumteam is really Eden+Onegu+AMG then it's real a disaster for them. Especially if AMG hadn't replaced.... In any case if ray is town and we have a Cop I don't see how we can ever lose.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
March 22 2017 09:17 GMT
#2288
Why did you want to lynch tumble d1? Where had that read gone?
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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 22 2017 09:23 GMT
#2289
Tumble's play was just weak and disinterested D1 from what I remember. At some point there I also went theoretizing about a rayn+Tumble team and got stuck in that mindset. After D1 I slowly started to reconsider and ended up with him being too disinterested in his or appearance, rather than disinterested in general, which made me feel better. That and his actions at EOD (at least with town rayn making little sense).
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 22 2017 09:24 GMT
#2290
Little sense as scum*
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
March 22 2017 09:47 GMT
#2291
I have a big problem with this:
On March 19 2017 04:20 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2017 04:15 Calix wrote:
On March 19 2017 04:12 Xatalos wrote:
On March 19 2017 04:07 Calix wrote:
Xatalos, did you find the arguments for Tweedledumb's townieness unconvincing? Just wondering since you are still voting for him and I can't remember if you responded to those or not.


Hm? I've probably missed/forgot something since I was reading on my phone in fast sessions all day. Didn't you just recently call him scummy though? At least some hours ago.


Yeah I did but then Rayn made this town case and Tweedledumb responded with some paranoia on Rayn (the only person who really town-reads him) which looked townie to me. Pretty sure disformation picked up on it too.

As for your point about the stale wagon, I would be inclined to agree but none of today's wagons have 'picked up' really. Disformation's took a while to get going while Damdred's has been sitting with 2-3 votes all day. I don't think it means a lot.

If Malongo flips town then it becomes a lot more interesting though. But I don't see any reason in his posts to think that, he's been talked about a lot and he hasn't done anything. He's the superior lynch for today by miles.


Hmmm.... In the case of rayn/Tumble scum it would make sense though, to distance from rayn without losing/risking anything...?

But if we assume rayn is town, then it's probably not very sensible for Tumble to accuse rayn here..

Here you suggest that if i am mafia then Tumble is my scumbuddy (you talk more about this later). If i am town then it's extremely unlike Tumble is mafia.

Now the next thing you do baffles me a great deal. You suggest a switch on Tumble. That is something you should never be doing since his alignment is connected to mine, not the other way around. You should always lynch me first!! And yes, you suggested a switch on tumble before a switch on me.
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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 22 2017 09:50 GMT
#2292
I started switching to you around that time, I think. Anyways the connection thing wasn't initially as strong in my mind as later on.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
March 22 2017 09:55 GMT
#2293
On March 22 2017 18:50 Xatalos wrote:
I started switching to you around that time, I think. Anyways the connection thing wasn't initially as strong in my mind as later on.

I am thinking you realized what i just said and went to damage control.
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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 22 2017 09:56 GMT
#2294
?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 22 2017 09:58 GMT
#2295
Ah. But you're nitpicking again. I wasn't immediately confident to lynch you over Tumble, maybe, but I didn't push Tumble either. I said something like "maybe we should lynch Tumble"?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
March 22 2017 10:02 GMT
#2296
Why did you switch back to Malongo at :59?
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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 22 2017 10:09 GMT
#2297
Didn't really matter at that point. Since I wasn't confident enough to push you in the end, it would feel hypocritical to leave my vote somewhere else. And I did think he had an OK chance to flip scum.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 22 2017 10:42 GMT
#2298
seems im stuck on phone for a while. so quoting n shit hard. so ill try to be concise n shit.
On March 22 2017 07:01 beentheredonethat wrote:
D2 Final Vote Count


raynpelikoneet (0) xatalos, calix, koshi
eden1892 (6): damdred, disformation, raynpelikoneet,koshi, onegu, xatalos, darthfoley, Calix, raynpelikoneet
disformation (1): Calix, darthfoley, xatalos, Tumblewood
AMG (0): Tumblewood
Koshi (0): Tumblewood
Xatalos (3): raynpelikoneet, AMG, Koshi, raynpelikoneet

Not voting (1): Eden1892


so:
ignoring tumble:
as mentioned earlier:
id say 2 scum on efen or 1 scum on eden 1 on xata.
with tumble it can be tumble +1 eden. or tumble and 1 xata.

looking at the xata wagon:

rayn: given his read progression and everything it makes a lot of sense for him. also first on a wagon that makes a lot of sense for him to be on. not much to see.

koshi:
[-] hard flip of his read on xata.
[+] posted good reasons to scum read xata
[--] timing. koshi flipping the xata read and voting xata brought the votes to 4 eden, 3 disf, 3 xata. like he flipped vote and read precisely at a time where the xata train got a bit of steam and it seemed it might take of. so if xata is town this might point to a scum koshi.

reminds me that i wanted to filter dive him.

amg:
a fuckton of wifom here. strangely more focused on defending eden than getting a specific person lynched. hard to tell if he just really thought eden is town or went for a huge wifom play.
tinfoil sick play: xata/amg/eden for max wtf.
would have liked it more if he had more actively tried to get a scumread lynched.
so overall meh.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
March 22 2017 10:50 GMT
#2299
AMG who are your current scummers?
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
March 22 2017 11:39 GMT
#2300
goddamnit I lost my fucking post...
I had a good night of sleep.
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