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Alright AMG. Xatalos. What's your opinion on this:
On March 20 2017 23:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:Bulletpoints why Xatalos is mafia: - The whole claim thing as just explained
- Very very terrible reasoned read on Tumblewood (aka easy lynch)
- Not pushing me over Malongo (when he said himself he thought we are BOTH (with Tumble) more likely to be mafia than Malongo is) -- And no, sitting on his scumread for 47h 45mins and then making a half-arsed attempt is not "pushing a lynch on rayn" while i can perfectly underrstand why he tries it there -- i will never have a chance to respond (i can show you examples on when town!Xatalos thinks i am mafia, how he pushes the lynch if you don't believe me)
- See above, how strong do you think his scumread on me was when on D2 i claim and he cannot be even arsed to think there is a possibility of me being town?
- Go read his filter and see what he "pushes". He is not even wanting to lynch scum, there are no actual case, no nothing. He is just trying to find counter-wagons for everything?!?!?!? If someone is scum why do you need a counter-wagon? Why is just looking for counter-wagons?
- Mrrgrlgrlgllllll !!!!!!!!!
Furthermore there are two other things. Basically this game the way Xatalos has acted towards me in a competely unreasonable manner. When i first made my case on Damdred (and Malongo - but mostly on Damdred) on D1, he doesn't even try to understand where i am coming from. It's very clearly seen from his responses he didn't (1) get what i was saying and (2) didn't even try to understand what i am saying, he jsut trashed on the read for no real reason. Same trend continues on D2. Like now he is at least acting in a manner he sees me most likely town. Why is he still jsut trashing me and not even TRYING to communicate with me in any reasonable manner? It doesn't matter if i call him mafia, look at for example Koshi - Koshi is not calling me scum, Koshi is not trashing me all the time when i am not even in thread. Xatalos on the other hand is. Koshi is letting me do my thing. There is a huge difference between those two and i don't understand why Xatalos as town would act like that especially now on D2 if he was town. It doesn't make any sense because he has to know i can be an asset to the town. He isn't trying to even communicate, he just discredits.
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The other thing is i don't really see why Xatalos thinks Damdred has said smart things in this game, because he hasn't. Look at for example DBS' read on Koshi. That's a smart thing - that's sorta read i would expect from Damdred especially early game because he does that a lot when he is town. What he does instead was that completely mindless question to disformation and jsut laying out a list of townreads. Meeeeehhhhhhhh.... Obviously there are games (especially lately) where Damdred just afk's the fuck out of the game but this is not one. Hell i can't even tell what half of his posts say ?!?!?!? And that's smart posting? The only thing even remotely "smart" is the Tumblewood contradiction read at the start of N1 but even that fucking vanished in hours for idk what reason. Suddenly Tumblewood wasn't mafia anymore when just a while ago Damdred was so proud of finding something that "absolutely made someone mafia"..
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My view of Damdred's play this game is he is not here to find mafia, he is here trying to make friends.
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Darthfoley. Do you remember who said this is somewhat good reasoning to scumread Malongo?
On March 18 2017 00:36 darthfoley wrote:The only part of rayn's post that I like is the Malongo read. I feel like his play so far has been forced Show nested quote +On March 17 2017 12:27 Malongo wrote:On March 17 2017 10:57 darthfoley wrote:On March 17 2017 10:18 Malongo wrote:On March 17 2017 10:06 darthfoley wrote:
Oh! Also don't like Malongo I think we are in the same team tbh. You quote still sucks anyways. My general read is pretty weak at this point. I don´t like how fast Damdred and disformation are piling up ealry. I would rather find a third way because we may be making mafia life too easy. So I propose lynching Ryan. Not that I find him specially scummy but I don´t want to play with a troll for a second time. ##ryanpelikoneetEverything else es just nonsense for me at this point. Why do you think we're on the same team i.e. why are you town reading me? Just a first impression. Mostly because your position about null reading ryan and because you are calling me out. Don´t expect me to post substance anyways. My goal today is not to lynch Damdred/disformation. The bolded I can actually understand from a town POV. The problem is that he hasn't done anything that amounts to scum hunting to really try to start another wagon. Yea sure, he voted on rayn but not for actual scum hunting reasons: Show nested quote +On March 17 2017 10:18 Malongo wrote:On March 17 2017 10:06 darthfoley wrote:
Oh! Also don't like Malongo I think we are in the same team tbh. You quote still sucks anyways. My general read is pretty weak at this point. I don´t like how fast Damdred and disformation are piling up ealry. I would rather find a third way because we may be making mafia life too easy. So I propose lynching Ryan. Not that I find him specially scummy but I don´t want to play with a troll for a second time.##ryanpelikoneetEverything else es just nonsense for me at this point. This reasoning is just so bad to me, plus the fact that he doesn't actually try to push the wagon at all, or ask rayn/anyone else questions. He's not actually interacting with anyone
I remember the same dude said my reasoning is bad but that's literally my reasoning, just in different words. 
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On March 21 2017 22:49 Onegu wrote:
Would like to point out after I point out rayn and koshi not scum reading me they scum read me.
Play the game if you're town. You're fucking useless and more mafia than mafia is even if you are town rn.
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On March 21 2017 22:52 AMG wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2017 22:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
My view of Damdred's play this game is he is not here to find mafia, he is here trying to make friends. Hes hasn't taken to making friends with me. In fact hes done a great job of shitting on every thought I've put into the thread so far. As I've already said in my previous interaction with him, I really do not think day 2 has panned out as everyone seems to think, being : Scum Eden shot Ritoky to save his life and get him off his case... only to go completely AFK and the town collectively wanders up and dumps their vote on AFK scum Eden while the team do very little/nothing to try to persuade it onto someone contributing equally as much... Onegu.. my slot up to that point.. there were options. Rather than entertain the idea that Eden might be town, hes adamant that scum are gifting us this one as a bus. For what. For town credit? what town credit is there to be had from being on Eden wagon even if he flips scum? (almost..) everyone seems to be in agreeance here that Eden is scum so the "town credit" is next to nil.
The thing with Eden here is that it's possibly not what mafia expected. I was hard-defending Eden during the night. If i am still hard-defending Eden during the day is it better ritoky is dead or not? Also look at how the day started, there were no votes on Eden, there was this retarded wagon on me instead. I was the one who (by claiming) constructed the wagon on Eden. If Eden is town, why does mafia not wagon Eden in the first place? Also it's not like it's 100% certain Eden has said "well guys i will afk for D2", there might be more to that because people don't tend to 100% afk unless something comes up in irl, or if they are caught as mafia and no chance of surviving.
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The only one who voted for Eden was Damdred.
There was a counter-wagon on me (bigger than Eden).
There STILL is a counter-wagon on disformation for idk what fucking reason.
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I am actually going to have to read Calix' filter and re-evaluate her. I have no idea why she was voting for me at the start of D2.
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On March 20 2017 06:22 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2017 06:21 Xatalos wrote:
Notable also that rayn's suspect list stayed the through the whole D1 (me/Damdred/Malongo). Even now it's mostly the same, after Malongo flipped town. This is actually a good point. And you didn't even need meta for that 
Holy fuck what a fucking bunch of bull-fucking-shit.... OH MY FUCKING GOD.
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There are too many mafia in this game. 
I am almost gonna say i will never read anything Calix posts and she is town but i am not 100% sure if that's a retarded town post or mafia post.
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##unvote
##vote: Xatalos
Well i am voting for mafia.
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He cannot be town in this game.
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On March 20 2017 06:21 Xatalos wrote:
Notable also that rayn's suspect list stayed the through the whole D1 (me/Damdred/Malongo). Even now it's mostly the same, after Malongo flipped town.
SERIOUSLY LOOK AT THIS BULLSHIT!!?!?!?!?
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I will give you all a challenge. Go read ANY of my towngames EVER. The read this again. If you manage to hit maybe 1 of 70 that doesn't follow the opposite sentiment, read another one.
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Don't forget i am scum too!
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Not really in what he writes but easily seem from how he writes.
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Koshi my see the light and i only had to say that like 5 times.
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On March 21 2017 23:05 AMG wrote:
Im surprised you even felt the need to claim.
Rayn of old would have just barked at the thread until making it unreadable.
Eden and yourself were going vote for vote, you hit 3 after Calix jumped on, but Eden had already accumulated 2 votes courtesy of Damdred and disinfo. Then you claimed and it all shifted to Eden.
In the world I live in, where you're both town, you made yourself untouchable, and they defaulted onto the next best option, an AFKer who'd already got a few votes.
I know but i literally don't care often times anymore.
But in the last couple of years i have been lynched for like eight times, a couple of them i totally deserved, one was retarded game overall and the last five times i have only called out mafia. I quit for a couple of times already because of that (amongst other things). When the game of logical deduction doesn't include logic anymore i don't really find much fun in it, except for if i am right or not. I decided i wanna have presence for the longest amount of time since i don't usually do as well in obs/following than i do in-game. And Koshi was being a dick and switching his "lynch rayn D3" into D2 (srsly Koshi that's super fucking annoying and the only times you have lynched me i have ONLY FUCKING VOTED FOR MAFIA ALL FUCKING GAME).
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On March 21 2017 23:28 AMG wrote:Post 369Just feels.... off. He thinks you're showing forced/fake agression, calls all your cases unconvincing and weak, and finishes it off with "At first I was half-convinced rayn was scum, but now I'm not sure again.If someone I was "half-convinced" was scum started pulling that crap in my eyes, id probably find myself more convinced they're scum.
Ahahahahah i didn't even see that earlier.
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