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On February 14 2017 19:16 Superbia wrote:
Vivax seems to be the only one who's actually evaluating me as possible town, which is why I'm just willing to ride or die with him until the end of game.
Surprise surprise!!!
Vivax says Super = resistance -> conclusion: super thinks vivax = resistance
RTani says Super = not sure/leaning towards spy -> conclusion: super thinks rt = spy
Hahaha
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On February 14 2017 19:15 Superbia wrote:
Because people seem to be incredibly content to keep reading me mafia. Even after "thinking" I proposed AND voted on an all-town team, people still seemed to think I'm mafia.
Nothing wrong there.
i can understand the frustration. as either alignment really. lol >< my first resistance game (voice) i was in vivax's spot and new i was town, but everyone just assumed i was scum because the first mission passed without ever questioning it. admittedly that may be one of the reasons i really don't care for resistance. played this game cause of lex
but i digress...my issue with you (not 100% on what lex said, the week started and this was his show again lol ><) is not that i'm certain you're scum/spy/whatever in the slightest. it's that i can't get a resistance read off you. i don't trust you. i'm not sure what it would take me to get there, if you are resistance, but working out how we see the game may help. and again, i realize i'm a bit disconnected so please don't get annoyed if i ask you things you've already spoken about
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On February 14 2017 19:16 RtaniSoul wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2017 19:11 Superbia wrote:
TW's slot was super mafia, and all LS has done is "I'm town and I voted pass". so correct me if i'm wrong; your saying that you don't understand our read is actually that you didn't agree with it? we've already discussed tumble with you because we didn't agree with you, and i personally did not find your response to match how strong your read was as for ls now, i don't know. tonally i find it kinda town but i'm reluctant to go with that gut feel when i know that i have a soft spot - maybe even a blind spot - for ls, and lex also thought that ls was pretty quick with his reads...i forget who mentioned that first; maybe it was you. i think it was sorry, he got frustrated and went out walking, and i've been doing reading for class so if i'm not really plugged in to the conversation at present, that's why
Okay, so: I'm considering you guys because:
1. There's probably mafia on this team.
2. We've had a lot of disagreements read-wise.
3. You seem to be content in keeping me status-quo mafia throughout the game.
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On February 14 2017 19:20 sharkie wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2017 19:16 Superbia wrote:
Vivax seems to be the only one who's actually evaluating me as possible town, which is why I'm just willing to ride or die with him until the end of game. Surprise surprise!!! Vivax says Super = resistance -> conclusion: super thinks vivax = resistance RTani says Super = not sure/leaning towards spy -> conclusion: super thinks rt = spy Hahaha
if you're resistance this is not helping
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On February 14 2017 19:20 sharkie wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2017 19:16 Superbia wrote:
Vivax seems to be the only one who's actually evaluating me as possible town, which is why I'm just willing to ride or die with him until the end of game. Surprise surprise!!! Vivax says Super = resistance -> conclusion: super thinks vivax = resistance RTani says Super = not sure/leaning towards spy -> conclusion: super thinks rt = spy Hahaha
Changing reads is a town-trait.
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On February 14 2017 19:21 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2017 19:16 RtaniSoul wrote:On February 14 2017 19:11 Superbia wrote:
TW's slot was super mafia, and all LS has done is "I'm town and I voted pass". so correct me if i'm wrong; your saying that you don't understand our read is actually that you didn't agree with it? we've already discussed tumble with you because we didn't agree with you, and i personally did not find your response to match how strong your read was as for ls now, i don't know. tonally i find it kinda town but i'm reluctant to go with that gut feel when i know that i have a soft spot - maybe even a blind spot - for ls, and lex also thought that ls was pretty quick with his reads...i forget who mentioned that first; maybe it was you. i think it was sorry, he got frustrated and went out walking, and i've been doing reading for class so if i'm not really plugged in to the conversation at present, that's why Okay, so: I'm considering you guys because: 1. There's probably mafia on this team. 2. We've had a lot of disagreements read-wise. 3. You seem to be content in keeping me status-quo mafia throughout the game.
agreed on points 1 and 2
what makes you think point 3?
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On February 14 2017 19:22 RtaniSoul wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2017 19:21 Superbia wrote:On February 14 2017 19:16 RtaniSoul wrote:On February 14 2017 19:11 Superbia wrote:
TW's slot was super mafia, and all LS has done is "I'm town and I voted pass". so correct me if i'm wrong; your saying that you don't understand our read is actually that you didn't agree with it? we've already discussed tumble with you because we didn't agree with you, and i personally did not find your response to match how strong your read was as for ls now, i don't know. tonally i find it kinda town but i'm reluctant to go with that gut feel when i know that i have a soft spot - maybe even a blind spot - for ls, and lex also thought that ls was pretty quick with his reads...i forget who mentioned that first; maybe it was you. i think it was sorry, he got frustrated and went out walking, and i've been doing reading for class so if i'm not really plugged in to the conversation at present, that's why Okay, so: I'm considering you guys because: 1. There's probably mafia on this team. 2. We've had a lot of disagreements read-wise. 3. You seem to be content in keeping me status-quo mafia throughout the game. agreed on points 1 and 2 what makes you think point 3?
It's the feeling I have had throughout the game. It may be unfair to just point you out, as it definitely it not the two of you. The only time I feel like you've really evaluated me is when you guys had the disagreement on d1.
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On February 14 2017 19:22 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2017 19:20 sharkie wrote:On February 14 2017 19:16 Superbia wrote:
Vivax seems to be the only one who's actually evaluating me as possible town, which is why I'm just willing to ride or die with him until the end of game. Surprise surprise!!! Vivax says Super = resistance -> conclusion: super thinks vivax = resistance RTani says Super = not sure/leaning towards spy -> conclusion: super thinks rt = spy Hahaha Changing reads is a town-trait.
that's not what he's saying anyway super. he's on his people read others as they read them kick, which is 1) not helpful to keep pointing out and 2) a blatant oversimplification of most of our reads which i personally do not appreciate
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On February 14 2017 19:22 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2017 19:20 sharkie wrote:On February 14 2017 19:16 Superbia wrote:
Vivax seems to be the only one who's actually evaluating me as possible town, which is why I'm just willing to ride or die with him until the end of game. Surprise surprise!!! Vivax says Super = resistance -> conclusion: super thinks vivax = resistance RTani says Super = not sure/leaning towards spy -> conclusion: super thinks rt = spy Hahaha Changing reads is a town-trait.
Oh really? Then we must have 8 resistance players. XD
Anyway, that was not my point. My point was you guys change reads BASED on how people read you lol.
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On February 14 2017 19:24 RtaniSoul wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2017 19:22 Superbia wrote:On February 14 2017 19:20 sharkie wrote:On February 14 2017 19:16 Superbia wrote:
Vivax seems to be the only one who's actually evaluating me as possible town, which is why I'm just willing to ride or die with him until the end of game. Surprise surprise!!! Vivax says Super = resistance -> conclusion: super thinks vivax = resistance RTani says Super = not sure/leaning towards spy -> conclusion: super thinks rt = spy Hahaha Changing reads is a town-trait. that's not what he's saying anyway super. he's on his people read others as they read them kick, which is 1) not helpful to keep pointing out and 2) a blatant oversimplification of most of our reads which i personally do not appreciate
I don't include you in that generalization. You have actual analysis working behind your theories and don't really care how people read you.
But people like super, SL say "he townreads me so no matter what I townread him to the end"
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On February 14 2017 19:24 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2017 19:22 RtaniSoul wrote:On February 14 2017 19:21 Superbia wrote:On February 14 2017 19:16 RtaniSoul wrote:On February 14 2017 19:11 Superbia wrote:
TW's slot was super mafia, and all LS has done is "I'm town and I voted pass". so correct me if i'm wrong; your saying that you don't understand our read is actually that you didn't agree with it? we've already discussed tumble with you because we didn't agree with you, and i personally did not find your response to match how strong your read was as for ls now, i don't know. tonally i find it kinda town but i'm reluctant to go with that gut feel when i know that i have a soft spot - maybe even a blind spot - for ls, and lex also thought that ls was pretty quick with his reads...i forget who mentioned that first; maybe it was you. i think it was sorry, he got frustrated and went out walking, and i've been doing reading for class so if i'm not really plugged in to the conversation at present, that's why Okay, so: I'm considering you guys because: 1. There's probably mafia on this team. 2. We've had a lot of disagreements read-wise. 3. You seem to be content in keeping me status-quo mafia throughout the game. agreed on points 1 and 2 what makes you think point 3? It's the feeling I have had throughout the game. It may be unfair to just point you out, as it definitely it not the two of you. The only time I feel like you've really evaluated me is when you guys had the disagreement on d1.
lol i'm trying >< help me help myself. also help me help lex. you may not have noticed, but he finds it highly offensive to be scumread when he's trying so hard. it's not a rational thing he does, but personally i'd prefer to not take time out of all the work i have to do to get him back on an even keel over a forum game lol ><
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On February 14 2017 19:26 sharkie wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2017 19:24 RtaniSoul wrote:On February 14 2017 19:22 Superbia wrote:On February 14 2017 19:20 sharkie wrote:On February 14 2017 19:16 Superbia wrote:
Vivax seems to be the only one who's actually evaluating me as possible town, which is why I'm just willing to ride or die with him until the end of game. Surprise surprise!!! Vivax says Super = resistance -> conclusion: super thinks vivax = resistance RTani says Super = not sure/leaning towards spy -> conclusion: super thinks rt = spy Hahaha Changing reads is a town-trait. that's not what he's saying anyway super. he's on his people read others as they read them kick, which is 1) not helpful to keep pointing out and 2) a blatant oversimplification of most of our reads which i personally do not appreciate I don't include you in that generalization. You have actual analysis working behind your theories and don't really care how people read you. But people like super, SL say "he townreads me so no matter what I townread him to the end"
that can come from a townie mindset, to be fair. if you're resistance in this game, and everyone is reading you as spy, it actually is to a spy's advantage to keep that presumption going. also often those statements aren't serious. context is important
also you did say it about us >> i remember. cause it annoyed me that it was inaccurate. i try not to argue every time i see an inaccuracy though, or this thread would be much, much longer
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On February 14 2017 19:28 RtaniSoul wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2017 19:26 sharkie wrote:On February 14 2017 19:24 RtaniSoul wrote:On February 14 2017 19:22 Superbia wrote:On February 14 2017 19:20 sharkie wrote:On February 14 2017 19:16 Superbia wrote:
Vivax seems to be the only one who's actually evaluating me as possible town, which is why I'm just willing to ride or die with him until the end of game. Surprise surprise!!! Vivax says Super = resistance -> conclusion: super thinks vivax = resistance RTani says Super = not sure/leaning towards spy -> conclusion: super thinks rt = spy Hahaha Changing reads is a town-trait. that's not what he's saying anyway super. he's on his people read others as they read them kick, which is 1) not helpful to keep pointing out and 2) a blatant oversimplification of most of our reads which i personally do not appreciate I don't include you in that generalization. You have actual analysis working behind your theories and don't really care how people read you. But people like super, SL say "he townreads me so no matter what I townread him to the end" that can come from a townie mindset, to be fair. if you're resistance in this game, and everyone is reading you as spy, it actually is to a spy's advantage to keep that presumption going. also often those statements aren't serious. context is important also you did say it about us >> i remember. cause it annoyed me that it was inaccurate. i try not to argue every time i see an inaccuracy though, or this thread would be much, much longer
Ah yeah I did when you switched from vivax spy to grack spy.
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On February 14 2017 19:26 RtaniSoul wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2017 19:24 Superbia wrote:On February 14 2017 19:22 RtaniSoul wrote:On February 14 2017 19:21 Superbia wrote:On February 14 2017 19:16 RtaniSoul wrote:On February 14 2017 19:11 Superbia wrote:
TW's slot was super mafia, and all LS has done is "I'm town and I voted pass". so correct me if i'm wrong; your saying that you don't understand our read is actually that you didn't agree with it? we've already discussed tumble with you because we didn't agree with you, and i personally did not find your response to match how strong your read was as for ls now, i don't know. tonally i find it kinda town but i'm reluctant to go with that gut feel when i know that i have a soft spot - maybe even a blind spot - for ls, and lex also thought that ls was pretty quick with his reads...i forget who mentioned that first; maybe it was you. i think it was sorry, he got frustrated and went out walking, and i've been doing reading for class so if i'm not really plugged in to the conversation at present, that's why Okay, so: I'm considering you guys because: 1. There's probably mafia on this team. 2. We've had a lot of disagreements read-wise. 3. You seem to be content in keeping me status-quo mafia throughout the game. agreed on points 1 and 2 what makes you think point 3? It's the feeling I have had throughout the game. It may be unfair to just point you out, as it definitely it not the two of you. The only time I feel like you've really evaluated me is when you guys had the disagreement on d1. lol i'm trying >< help me help myself. also help me help lex. you may not have noticed, but he finds it highly offensive to be scumread when he's trying so hard. it's not a rational thing he does, but personally i'd prefer to not take time out of all the work i have to do to get him back on an even keel over a forum game lol ><
You can't blame me for being paranoid though. x;
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i can't remember ever being particularly good at reading you super :/
your current theory is us, correct? well, it's not us, though we may be scum-siding. in fact, since we liked that team, we definitely are, presuming it failed
help me understand why tumble's early play was definitely scum to you? as i said earlier, your previous explanation seemed very...uncertain...for such a certain read. i remember (unless i'm attributing this to the wrong player) you coming back and just announcing tumble was scum. that seemed like a really hard read. but your explanation just seemed more uncertain, and that still seems to be one of your strongest reads in the game
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On February 14 2017 19:26 sharkie wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2017 19:24 RtaniSoul wrote:On February 14 2017 19:22 Superbia wrote:On February 14 2017 19:20 sharkie wrote:On February 14 2017 19:16 Superbia wrote:
Vivax seems to be the only one who's actually evaluating me as possible town, which is why I'm just willing to ride or die with him until the end of game. Surprise surprise!!! Vivax says Super = resistance -> conclusion: super thinks vivax = resistance RTani says Super = not sure/leaning towards spy -> conclusion: super thinks rt = spy Hahaha Changing reads is a town-trait. that's not what he's saying anyway super. he's on his people read others as they read them kick, which is 1) not helpful to keep pointing out and 2) a blatant oversimplification of most of our reads which i personally do not appreciate I don't include you in that generalization. You have actual analysis working behind your theories and don't really care how people read you. But people like super, SL say "he townreads me so no matter what I townread him to the end"
LS is town-reading me as well?
I feel like Vivax's townread on me is probably genuine and he's one of the only ones to do it. So it makes sense to give him townpoints for that.
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On February 14 2017 19:31 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2017 19:26 RtaniSoul wrote:On February 14 2017 19:24 Superbia wrote:On February 14 2017 19:22 RtaniSoul wrote:On February 14 2017 19:21 Superbia wrote:On February 14 2017 19:16 RtaniSoul wrote:On February 14 2017 19:11 Superbia wrote:
TW's slot was super mafia, and all LS has done is "I'm town and I voted pass". so correct me if i'm wrong; your saying that you don't understand our read is actually that you didn't agree with it? we've already discussed tumble with you because we didn't agree with you, and i personally did not find your response to match how strong your read was as for ls now, i don't know. tonally i find it kinda town but i'm reluctant to go with that gut feel when i know that i have a soft spot - maybe even a blind spot - for ls, and lex also thought that ls was pretty quick with his reads...i forget who mentioned that first; maybe it was you. i think it was sorry, he got frustrated and went out walking, and i've been doing reading for class so if i'm not really plugged in to the conversation at present, that's why Okay, so: I'm considering you guys because: 1. There's probably mafia on this team. 2. We've had a lot of disagreements read-wise. 3. You seem to be content in keeping me status-quo mafia throughout the game. agreed on points 1 and 2 what makes you think point 3? It's the feeling I have had throughout the game. It may be unfair to just point you out, as it definitely it not the two of you. The only time I feel like you've really evaluated me is when you guys had the disagreement on d1. lol i'm trying >< help me help myself. also help me help lex. you may not have noticed, but he finds it highly offensive to be scumread when he's trying so hard. it's not a rational thing he does, but personally i'd prefer to not take time out of all the work i have to do to get him back on an even keel over a forum game lol >< You can't blame me for being paranoid though. x;
i don't lol >< the only think i'm blaming you for is interrupting other things i should be doing ^^ if you knew lex you'd know we were 100% town just by how upset he's getting. i'm perfectly capable of faking emotion and most things as scum, mostly cause i hate it when people claim i'm cheating by being emotional as town. he is not. ego lol ><
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On February 14 2017 19:32 RtaniSoul wrote:
i can't remember ever being particularly good at reading you super :/
your current theory is us, correct? well, it's not us, though we may be scum-siding. in fact, since we liked that team, we definitely are, presuming it failed
help me understand why tumble's early play was definitely scum to you? as i said earlier, your previous explanation seemed very...uncertain...for such a certain read. i remember (unless i'm attributing this to the wrong player) you coming back and just announcing tumble was scum. that seemed like a really hard read. but your explanation just seemed more uncertain, and that still seems to be one of your strongest reads in the game
I have multiple theories at this point in time.
As for tumble, it mainly comes down to:
1. People are townreading me.
2. TW comes into the thread and attempts to devalue the townread while giving no read on me. This is an obvious mafia play.
3. I pressure him and he concludes I'm mafia based on (iirc) nothing. Like I'm just suddenly mafia.
4. TW is then just perpetually afk throughout the game.
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On February 14 2017 19:33 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2017 19:26 sharkie wrote:On February 14 2017 19:24 RtaniSoul wrote:On February 14 2017 19:22 Superbia wrote:On February 14 2017 19:20 sharkie wrote:On February 14 2017 19:16 Superbia wrote:
Vivax seems to be the only one who's actually evaluating me as possible town, which is why I'm just willing to ride or die with him until the end of game. Surprise surprise!!! Vivax says Super = resistance -> conclusion: super thinks vivax = resistance RTani says Super = not sure/leaning towards spy -> conclusion: super thinks rt = spy Hahaha Changing reads is a town-trait. that's not what he's saying anyway super. he's on his people read others as they read them kick, which is 1) not helpful to keep pointing out and 2) a blatant oversimplification of most of our reads which i personally do not appreciate I don't include you in that generalization. You have actual analysis working behind your theories and don't really care how people read you. But people like super, SL say "he townreads me so no matter what I townread him to the end" LS is town-reading me as well? I feel like Vivax's townread on me is probably genuine and he's one of the only ones to do it. So it makes sense to give him townpoints for that.
LS is not town reading you.
And TW never did
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On February 14 2017 19:34 RtaniSoul wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2017 19:31 Superbia wrote:On February 14 2017 19:26 RtaniSoul wrote:On February 14 2017 19:24 Superbia wrote:On February 14 2017 19:22 RtaniSoul wrote:On February 14 2017 19:21 Superbia wrote:On February 14 2017 19:16 RtaniSoul wrote:On February 14 2017 19:11 Superbia wrote:
TW's slot was super mafia, and all LS has done is "I'm town and I voted pass". so correct me if i'm wrong; your saying that you don't understand our read is actually that you didn't agree with it? we've already discussed tumble with you because we didn't agree with you, and i personally did not find your response to match how strong your read was as for ls now, i don't know. tonally i find it kinda town but i'm reluctant to go with that gut feel when i know that i have a soft spot - maybe even a blind spot - for ls, and lex also thought that ls was pretty quick with his reads...i forget who mentioned that first; maybe it was you. i think it was sorry, he got frustrated and went out walking, and i've been doing reading for class so if i'm not really plugged in to the conversation at present, that's why Okay, so: I'm considering you guys because: 1. There's probably mafia on this team. 2. We've had a lot of disagreements read-wise. 3. You seem to be content in keeping me status-quo mafia throughout the game. agreed on points 1 and 2 what makes you think point 3? It's the feeling I have had throughout the game. It may be unfair to just point you out, as it definitely it not the two of you. The only time I feel like you've really evaluated me is when you guys had the disagreement on d1. lol i'm trying >< help me help myself. also help me help lex. you may not have noticed, but he finds it highly offensive to be scumread when he's trying so hard. it's not a rational thing he does, but personally i'd prefer to not take time out of all the work i have to do to get him back on an even keel over a forum game lol >< You can't blame me for being paranoid though. x; i don't lol >< the only think i'm blaming you for is interrupting other things i should be doing ^^ if you knew lex you'd know we were 100% town just by how upset he's getting. i'm perfectly capable of faking emotion and most things as scum, mostly cause i hate it when people claim i'm cheating by being emotional as town. he is not. ego lol ><
Well, I got a reaction and I feel like what you are saying is genuine. I'm scared to look at silver.
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