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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
January 19 2017 19:06 GMT
#1301
On January 20 2017 03:49 Hapahauli wrote:
I still don't understand the "damage control" bit. Why does town Slam need to damage control?

Wait

Are you assuming that I am so self-absorbed that any time I say damage control, I am referring to my own image?
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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 19 2017 19:08 GMT
#1302
On January 20 2017 02:22 Hapahauli wrote:
HF because he has a lot of activity but isn't pushing the game anywhere. The only thing I remember him really "leading" this game is his vote on Damdred early day 1. Other than that, he followed Vivax on his Damdred pressure, followed me on my pressure of Vivax, followed me again on my pressure on Slam with this:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2017 12:29 Holyflare wrote:
On January 18 2017 12:26 Hapahauli wrote:
First post was 30 minutes out from deadline.

Next two posts were 15-10 or so.

Anyway here are the series of posts he has at deadline. Keep in mind the first post (particularly the underlined/bolded part) as you read the rest of it.
On January 18 2017 00:58 Alakaslam wrote:
I have caught up and. Prices something earlier, that coupled with recent events makes Rels town.

I will invite-

However, if HF flips green we have to lynch Hapa. I think this is just a terrible idea day1.

But ultimately, I'd rather lose HF than Hapa. HF is not the best player here, he is the other of the greats.

I will not lynch him today. If you all do that fine, I will find who I think is scum.

On January 18 2017 01:03 Alakaslam wrote:
On January 18 2017 00:59 Vivax wrote:
On January 18 2017 00:58 Alakaslam wrote:
I have caught up and. Prices something earlier, that coupled with recent events makes Rels town.

I will invite-

However, if HF flips green we have to lynch Hapa. I think this is just a terrible idea day1.

But ultimately, I'd rather lose HF than Hapa. HF is not the best player here, he is the other of the greats.

I will not lynch him today. If you all do that fine, I will find who I think is scum.


That's nonsense. If HF flips green it doesn't automatically point you to another lynch.

Pretty selfish of you to act that way, too. Maybe remember others like to play this game more seriously than you do?

This is actually serious play. It's selfish to work within my own means rather than just sheep? Please tell me why; it would take far less effort to go "whoooo let's lynch HF"

Like isn't that what I'd usually do anyway? Your reaction is confusing me big time:

On January 18 2017 01:06 Alakaslam wrote:
The reason is that if Hapa is scum and he is lynching Holyflare, he will dominate. End of story.

But we would have to wait for him to survive night

I just realized this is more wifom then I had thought. Vivax is right.

Dammit I hate this situation so bad

On January 18 2017 01:08 Alakaslam wrote:
On January 18 2017 01:05 Vivax wrote:
On January 18 2017 01:03 Alakaslam wrote:
On January 18 2017 00:59 Vivax wrote:
On January 18 2017 00:58 Alakaslam wrote:
I have caught up and. Prices something earlier, that coupled with recent events makes Rels town.

I will invite-

However, if HF flips green we have to lynch Hapa. I think this is just a terrible idea day1.

But ultimately, I'd rather lose HF than Hapa. HF is not the best player here, he is the other of the greats.

I will not lynch him today. If you all do that fine, I will find who I think is scum.


That's nonsense. If HF flips green it doesn't automatically point you to another lynch.

Pretty selfish of you to act that way, too. Maybe remember others like to play this game more seriously than you do?

This is actually serious play. It's selfish to work within my own means rather than just sheep? Please tell me why; it would take far less effort to go "whoooo let's lynch HF"

Like isn't that what I'd usually do anyway? Your reaction is confusing me big time:


It's selfish to risk a no lynch, is what I mean. You can scumhunt on your own disregarding our opinions all you like but please slam, don't let us slide into a no lynch. What you wrote sounds like you will waste your vote if it suits you.

Aaand I forgot it was this type.

If HF is the only wagon, and needs a vote to be lynched, I will hammer.

On January 18 2017 01:12 Alakaslam wrote:
On January 18 2017 01:09 Vivax wrote:
On January 18 2017 01:06 Alakaslam wrote:
The reason is that if Hapa is scum and he is lynching Holyflare, he will dominate. End of story.

But we would have to wait for him to survive night

I just realized this is more wifom then I had thought. Vivax is right.

Dammit I hate this situation so bad


What do you think of Damdred? I think both him and HF have an equal shot at flipping mafia but I have to make compromises if we want to lynch, so right now I don't have a preference for HF, but others do.

TBH I struggle to read Damdred. He was most active during a time when I was inactive, then left the site on my return.

I mostly read by meta tbh.the capability I have for logic other than on-the-spot is pretty time consuming, and I just don't have it.

On January 18 2017 01:13 Alakaslam wrote:
I would far rather lynch Damdred but in majority I have to compromise to get a lynch.


He makes a bunch of posts, he's clearly active. Does it look to you like he's trying to find mafia (as he said he would early on)? He just waffles around, posts a bunch, does nothing, and arrives at the conclusion that he'd support a Damdred lynch despite having misgivings on Damdred.

That's not scumhunting.


Well that's different. You only linked 2 posts before, pretty much the same as onegu but more waffle. Would lynch.


He's also being really, really thick about certain things, and I don't think OMGUS explains all of that away.

Lastly, I think Rels really hit the nail on the head here:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2017 01:26 Rels wrote:
leaving work. I've said what I think. Only thing new is that HF seems prone to try and shitfight while claiming he wanna end the fight. Maybe.
See you tomorrow if I'm alive


Each is probably individually excusable. All together points to mafia HF IMO.


U fooking wut m8? Could that be gross misrepresentation I see over thar?
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 19 2017 19:08 GMT
#1303
Yes, that's what I was assuming.

What are your reads on the game right now? Who's above suspicion? Who would you lynch?
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 19 2017 19:09 GMT
#1304
HF OMGUS inc.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
January 19 2017 19:10 GMT
#1305
On January 20 2017 04:08 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2017 02:22 Hapahauli wrote:
HF because he has a lot of activity but isn't pushing the game anywhere. The only thing I remember him really "leading" this game is his vote on Damdred early day 1. Other than that, he followed Vivax on his Damdred pressure, followed me on my pressure of Vivax, followed me again on my pressure on Slam with this:
On January 18 2017 12:29 Holyflare wrote:
On January 18 2017 12:26 Hapahauli wrote:
First post was 30 minutes out from deadline.

Next two posts were 15-10 or so.

Anyway here are the series of posts he has at deadline. Keep in mind the first post (particularly the underlined/bolded part) as you read the rest of it.
On January 18 2017 00:58 Alakaslam wrote:
I have caught up and. Prices something earlier, that coupled with recent events makes Rels town.

I will invite-

However, if HF flips green we have to lynch Hapa. I think this is just a terrible idea day1.

But ultimately, I'd rather lose HF than Hapa. HF is not the best player here, he is the other of the greats.

I will not lynch him today. If you all do that fine, I will find who I think is scum.

On January 18 2017 01:03 Alakaslam wrote:
On January 18 2017 00:59 Vivax wrote:
On January 18 2017 00:58 Alakaslam wrote:
I have caught up and. Prices something earlier, that coupled with recent events makes Rels town.

I will invite-

However, if HF flips green we have to lynch Hapa. I think this is just a terrible idea day1.

But ultimately, I'd rather lose HF than Hapa. HF is not the best player here, he is the other of the greats.

I will not lynch him today. If you all do that fine, I will find who I think is scum.


That's nonsense. If HF flips green it doesn't automatically point you to another lynch.

Pretty selfish of you to act that way, too. Maybe remember others like to play this game more seriously than you do?

This is actually serious play. It's selfish to work within my own means rather than just sheep? Please tell me why; it would take far less effort to go "whoooo let's lynch HF"

Like isn't that what I'd usually do anyway? Your reaction is confusing me big time:

On January 18 2017 01:06 Alakaslam wrote:
The reason is that if Hapa is scum and he is lynching Holyflare, he will dominate. End of story.

But we would have to wait for him to survive night

I just realized this is more wifom then I had thought. Vivax is right.

Dammit I hate this situation so bad

On January 18 2017 01:08 Alakaslam wrote:
On January 18 2017 01:05 Vivax wrote:
On January 18 2017 01:03 Alakaslam wrote:
On January 18 2017 00:59 Vivax wrote:
On January 18 2017 00:58 Alakaslam wrote:
I have caught up and. Prices something earlier, that coupled with recent events makes Rels town.

I will invite-

However, if HF flips green we have to lynch Hapa. I think this is just a terrible idea day1.

But ultimately, I'd rather lose HF than Hapa. HF is not the best player here, he is the other of the greats.

I will not lynch him today. If you all do that fine, I will find who I think is scum.


That's nonsense. If HF flips green it doesn't automatically point you to another lynch.

Pretty selfish of you to act that way, too. Maybe remember others like to play this game more seriously than you do?

This is actually serious play. It's selfish to work within my own means rather than just sheep? Please tell me why; it would take far less effort to go "whoooo let's lynch HF"

Like isn't that what I'd usually do anyway? Your reaction is confusing me big time:


It's selfish to risk a no lynch, is what I mean. You can scumhunt on your own disregarding our opinions all you like but please slam, don't let us slide into a no lynch. What you wrote sounds like you will waste your vote if it suits you.

Aaand I forgot it was this type.

If HF is the only wagon, and needs a vote to be lynched, I will hammer.

On January 18 2017 01:12 Alakaslam wrote:
On January 18 2017 01:09 Vivax wrote:
On January 18 2017 01:06 Alakaslam wrote:
The reason is that if Hapa is scum and he is lynching Holyflare, he will dominate. End of story.

But we would have to wait for him to survive night

I just realized this is more wifom then I had thought. Vivax is right.

Dammit I hate this situation so bad


What do you think of Damdred? I think both him and HF have an equal shot at flipping mafia but I have to make compromises if we want to lynch, so right now I don't have a preference for HF, but others do.

TBH I struggle to read Damdred. He was most active during a time when I was inactive, then left the site on my return.

I mostly read by meta tbh.the capability I have for logic other than on-the-spot is pretty time consuming, and I just don't have it.

On January 18 2017 01:13 Alakaslam wrote:
I would far rather lynch Damdred but in majority I have to compromise to get a lynch.


He makes a bunch of posts, he's clearly active. Does it look to you like he's trying to find mafia (as he said he would early on)? He just waffles around, posts a bunch, does nothing, and arrives at the conclusion that he'd support a Damdred lynch despite having misgivings on Damdred.

That's not scumhunting.


Well that's different. You only linked 2 posts before, pretty much the same as onegu but more waffle. Would lynch.


He's also being really, really thick about certain things, and I don't think OMGUS explains all of that away.

Lastly, I think Rels really hit the nail on the head here:
On January 19 2017 01:26 Rels wrote:
leaving work. I've said what I think. Only thing new is that HF seems prone to try and shitfight while claiming he wanna end the fight. Maybe.
See you tomorrow if I'm alive


Each is probably individually excusable. All together points to mafia HF IMO.


U fooking wut m8? Could that be gross misrepresentation I see over thar?

Ohai there.

See if this were still D1 I would be in DMV control mode but now I am in "Filter these two" mode
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 19 2017 19:11 GMT
#1306
Why are you saying I'm not pushing anything when I literally spent the entirety of day 1 pushing things hapa? That's the most full of crap post I've seen in a long time.
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
January 19 2017 19:13 GMT
#1307
On January 20 2017 04:08 Hapahauli wrote:
Yes, that's what I was assuming.

What are your reads on the game right now? Who's above suspicion? Who would you lynch?

I have to read more closely.

I remember flipping my read on Rels. Btw Hapa did anyone say "the dead hate slam" or anything like that?

I felt this NK was to set up for my lynch. I was going to see if that metric worked.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 19 2017 19:13 GMT
#1308
Yes, only when you were forced in a position where you *had* to do something.

My point is that you have no initiative.
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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 19 2017 19:14 GMT
#1309
On January 20 2017 03:45 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2017 03:39 Hapahauli wrote:
What do you mean by "damage control mode?"

Also, "he was the most likely alternative" doesn't mean very much. You thought he was mafia? You thought he was a non-HF candidate that could plausibly be lynched?

I felt he was the most likely alternative to HF. He was a non-HF candidate that could be lynched. I don't see a definitions difference:

And, I believe others are better readers than I. Let me just lay your own words before you; that sometimes town needs to be willing to sheep so that experienced players can pull their lynches off.

Sure, you have the most experience here and you wanted to kill HF, but I wasn't ready for that and I think we will see that pay off. Because that would not be optimal.

To get in my head a little, you have to remember that I recognize my own relative inability to read until I get a really good one. If I don't have the epic read yet, I will look and act passively scummy.


Who the fuck says this?
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 19 2017 19:14 GMT
#1310
On January 20 2017 04:13 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2017 04:08 Hapahauli wrote:
Yes, that's what I was assuming.

What are your reads on the game right now? Who's above suspicion? Who would you lynch?

I have to read more closely.

I remember flipping my read on Rels. Btw Hapa did anyone say "the dead hate slam" or anything like that?

I felt this NK was to set up for my lynch. I was going to see if that metric worked.


Mmmm no. Rels died being suspicious of Onegu/Damdred, whilst being pretty "meh" on Holyflare.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
January 19 2017 19:18 GMT
#1311
On January 20 2017 04:14 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2017 03:45 Alakaslam wrote:
On January 20 2017 03:39 Hapahauli wrote:
What do you mean by "damage control mode?"

Also, "he was the most likely alternative" doesn't mean very much. You thought he was mafia? You thought he was a non-HF candidate that could plausibly be lynched?

I felt he was the most likely alternative to HF. He was a non-HF candidate that could be lynched. I don't see a definitions difference:

And, I believe others are better readers than I. Let me just lay your own words before you; that sometimes town needs to be willing to sheep so that experienced players can pull their lynches off.

Sure, you have the most experience here and you wanted to kill HF, but I wasn't ready for that and I think we will see that pay off. Because that would not be optimal.

To get in my head a little, you have to remember that I recognize my own relative inability to read until I get a really good one. If I don't have the epic read yet, I will look and act passively scummy.


Who the fuck says this?

Me! :D
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
January 19 2017 19:18 GMT
#1312
(What is your point HF?)
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 19 2017 19:19 GMT
#1313
On January 20 2017 04:13 Hapahauli wrote:
Yes, only when you were forced in a position where you *had* to do something.

My point is that you have no initiative.


Is this a joke? Push damdred, go to bed, wake up push hapa. At what point did I have to be forced to do something? There was no break between your bs posts and me pushing them.

You call it omgus yet the entirety of my push on you had legitimate reasons. And, now, what's the most hilarious of them all is that AT NIGHT you have now completely 180d on damdred!!!! So, what I called you out for that you now agree was correct or at least a better point of view by virtue of you changing your damdred read has somehow been diminished to just omgus!

Answer me hapa. What's different between slam afking and not defending himself in the space of time from night to this morning that was different about damdred? You only gave damdred 4 hours at best.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 19 2017 19:20 GMT
#1314
And by the way. I take back my town read of you. The more I think about a hapa mind the more I dislike that you can even call me mafia after literally saving your life.

Unlucky.
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
January 19 2017 19:20 GMT
#1315
On January 20 2017 04:14 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2017 04:13 Alakaslam wrote:
On January 20 2017 04:08 Hapahauli wrote:
Yes, that's what I was assuming.

What are your reads on the game right now? Who's above suspicion? Who would you lynch?

I have to read more closely.

I remember flipping my read on Rels. Btw Hapa did anyone say "the dead hate slam" or anything like that?

I felt this NK was to set up for my lynch. I was going to see if that metric worked.


Mmmm no. Rels died being suspicious of Onegu/Damdred, whilst being pretty "meh" on Holyflare.

Oh. I fell behind I guess.

Then I need to filter those folks and you two before I form any reads.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 19 2017 19:24 GMT
#1316
On January 20 2017 04:18 Alakaslam wrote:
(What is your point HF?)


Do you super strong town read me day 1?
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 19 2017 19:30 GMT
#1317
Here's an example HF.

Yesterday you post a case on Onegu, based on a tell that Rels had already pointed out (the "martyr" thing). I come in, post a case on Slam, and you literally go "looks wishy washy, would lynch."

Today, not a peep about Onegu, and 100% on Slam. Onegu's even been in the thread, and you haven't bothered to ask him anything, or even post anything about him beyond asking other people what they think about his alignment.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 19 2017 19:31 GMT
#1318
On January 20 2017 04:20 Holyflare wrote:
And by the way. I take back my town read of you. The more I think about a hapa mind the more I dislike that you can even call me mafia after literally saving your life.

Unlucky.


You already explained in your filter why the bolded doesn't make any sense.
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
January 19 2017 19:31 GMT
#1319
On January 20 2017 04:24 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2017 04:18 Alakaslam wrote:
(What is your point HF?)


Do you super strong town read me day 1?

That and I don't consider you for lynch, in the context of this game.

That's done now but I srs feel that if you and Hapa would shut up about each other and agree to disagree and find your lynches this game would be over quick. I tiwnread both of you ATM.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 19 2017 19:32 GMT
#1320
I wasn't around when onegu was and slam was the latest post on the page, what's next?

Also how did rels post the martyr thing first? That's a lie. I called out his posts and added him to The List™ and then rels did so afterwards.

Nice try though. I'm biding my time on onegu.
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