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Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 16 2017 15:16 GMT
#298
On January 16 2017 23:39 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2017 23:18 Rels wrote:
On January 16 2017 23:10 Vivax wrote:
Rels do you still think that Damdred could be mafia for his bad reasons on LS? If so, why?

not really. I want him to talk about it.


Why did you stop thinking that?

Cause he pressured LS into giving an explanation. When I was prepared to see him talking to LS like a conf town.
+ now that apaprently he never townread LS that early as scum, my meta stuff about scum!Damdred hard townreading LS to ride his meta read and pocket him is out.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 16 2017 15:53 GMT
#303
Hapa you're boring. And probably scum.
All of this "I'm doing stuff to force reaction" smells like bullshit.
Your few reads are boring.
Do something.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 16 2017 15:54 GMT
#304
Slam I hate seeing you not post like last game, where you also didn't have much time but posted great feeling posts that made you an easy townread and made my scumgame very hard
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 16 2017 16:03 GMT
#312
On January 17 2017 00:58 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2017 21:39 Rels wrote:
Slam any feelings about the game ?

Ya!

HF is looking like a badass by running around discrediting people till he lynches them, and if they was town it's their fault for being bad, if scum it is because he is badass

Hapa running around being high tier, and generally sheepable and conftown IMSO.

Damdred and LS saying stuff that I think people putting too much stock in, u coming in here and being generally wise but also making too much of HF and Hapa, with regard to H8 HF just because he sez stuff that is aggro

OK. Hapa being sheepable and conftown is not true. He spent the majority of his time talking about stuff that didn't advance the game further. His stuff where he calls people town or scum are obvious surface things that do'nt make people town or scum
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 16 2017 16:10 GMT
#320
On January 17 2017 01:07 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2017 01:03 Hapahauli wrote:
On January 17 2017 00:58 Alakaslam wrote:
On January 16 2017 21:39 Rels wrote:
Slam any feelings about the game ?

Ya!

HF is looking like a badass by running around discrediting people till he lynches them, and if they was town it's their fault for being bad, if scum it is because he is badass

Hapa running around being high tier, and generally sheepable and conftown IMSO.

Damdred and LS saying stuff that I think people putting too much stock in, u coming in here and being generally wise but also making too much of HF and Hapa, with regard to H8 HF just because he sez stuff that is aggro


How am I sheepable when the only public read I've stuck with is a town read on Vivax?

Because for once, you are someone who has used reason over emotion here.

What do you mean by "for once" ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 16 2017 16:13 GMT
#327
On January 17 2017 01:07 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2017 01:02 Hapahauli wrote:
On January 16 2017 05:39 Damdred wrote:
On January 16 2017 05:25 Hapahauli wrote:
On January 16 2017 05:16 Damdred wrote:
Here is the thing hapa I already have a pretty solid read on me currently. And that he is probably town at this point moving forward.

How did I get here? Why thank you for asking!

You see it starts with me having bad reasons that are correct. LS makes a meta point about my play and how I react to him, ( ie of I legit push him as scum and he flips town im scum as I read him like 100%). Town point.

States things that are clear as day at points even jokes. Town point (really lacks much of this as scum).

And seems to be able to give ok if not lower thought process on current events. So he's just town.

And that went on longer than I wanted


Okay.

Is this a case you would make on other townies, or is there something meta-specific here about LS? How confident is this read, scale of 1 to 10?



It's something meta specific to ls. He's incredibly lazy, isn't really confrontational and lays super low as scum.

He can get past these of his partner is someone he lives and pushed his buttons and rides him hard.

I would give it an 7-8 atm. Probably halfway through the day I can lock in depending. But some nice meta things on ls.


Damdred, update me on this. Right now, I'm seeing the bolded from LS.


I actually see differently after I looked at his filter and read the thread. Yeah hes not super in tune yet with his reads being present but hes going out of his way to find examples of previous games where certain situations have occured.

Mainly dealing with me, but I think its a good sign that he is doing things like that. I think it shows the opposite of being lazy, not many people would bother to comb throughg ames to find examples of what hes talking about.

Wouldn't lynch today at all, but i think hes pretty towny currently.

I'm not convinced by that. LS was specifically asked for games where you pushed his mislynched as scum, so him listing them is not "not being lazy".
Actually the fact that he took the time to dig up 3 games might be a good point.
meh IDK
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 16 2017 16:14 GMT
#329
On January 17 2017 01:11 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2017 01:10 Rels wrote:
On January 17 2017 01:07 Alakaslam wrote:
On January 17 2017 01:03 Hapahauli wrote:
On January 17 2017 00:58 Alakaslam wrote:
On January 16 2017 21:39 Rels wrote:
Slam any feelings about the game ?

Ya!

HF is looking like a badass by running around discrediting people till he lynches them, and if they was town it's their fault for being bad, if scum it is because he is badass

Hapa running around being high tier, and generally sheepable and conftown IMSO.

Damdred and LS saying stuff that I think people putting too much stock in, u coming in here and being generally wise but also making too much of HF and Hapa, with regard to H8 HF just because he sez stuff that is aggro


How am I sheepable when the only public read I've stuck with is a town read on Vivax?

Because for once, you are someone who has used reason over emotion here.

What do you mean by "for once" ?

I mean for the first time I have observed on this site since my returning.

I'm calling bullshit on that. I used very logical arguments last game and you still correctly call me scum 'cause I was boring.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 16 2017 16:18 GMT
#334
On January 17 2017 01:17 Hapahauli wrote:
We'll have to wait for Slam to get back I guess. Entrance doesn't look great.

New line of questioning. Rels - when you were reading the thread this morning, at what point in your readthrough did you start reading LS as mafia?

the end
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 16 2017 16:20 GMT
#336
Slam, your reason to call Hapa conf town is horrible. It doesn't make sense. Even in the weird way you post. Actually, especially with the weird way you post. Someone using logic doesn't mean they're town. That's actually the opposite
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 16 2017 16:21 GMT
#337
On January 17 2017 01:19 Hapahauli wrote:
?

is this for me ? If you want me to be more specific, just before finishing catching up. I didn't like his answer to Damdred
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 16 2017 16:23 GMT
#340
Vivax you are fucking dumb. Reread everything. Then if it's not clear I'll do a post by post defense where I'll explain exactly what's my LS read. But that is so useless that I don't want to waste time doing that. The basic is that I ddin't find LS scummy when I read that Damred post, then I found LS scummy when I finished reading the thread. The end.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 16 2017 16:24 GMT
#341
On January 17 2017 01:23 Hapahauli wrote:
It was for you Rels - what do you mean by "the end"?

"at waht point in your catchup ?" "the end"
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 16 2017 16:26 GMT
#342
I think I'm OK with LS. Him taking the time to dig up games that he didn't need to + showing up when being attacked immediately instead of waiting a little bit to see what happens is townie. I'm also OK with Damdred probably.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 16 2017 16:28 GMT
#344
yeah Slam is the lynch
##vote Alakaslam
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 16 2017 16:30 GMT
#346
On January 17 2017 01:28 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2017 01:23 Rels wrote:
Vivax you are fucking dumb. Reread everything. Then if it's not clear I'll do a post by post defense where I'll explain exactly what's my LS read. But that is so useless that I don't want to waste time doing that. The basic is that I ddin't find LS scummy when I read that Damred post, then I found LS scummy when I finished reading the thread. The end.


Give me a break dude. If you post stuff as you catch on while having a conversation then one never has an idea if you're changing opinion cause you're being confronted with accusations or cause you're absorbing new content. But then it's your fault for posting too early not mine for finding it scummy.

I also reserve the right to lynch you without being called fucking dumb. I don't have any beef with you I just think you're not being townie.

Well now that you know the fucking facts you can stop being a pain in the ass
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 16 2017 16:35 GMT
#349
On January 17 2017 01:33 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2017 01:30 Rels wrote:
On January 17 2017 01:28 Vivax wrote:
On January 17 2017 01:23 Rels wrote:
Vivax you are fucking dumb. Reread everything. Then if it's not clear I'll do a post by post defense where I'll explain exactly what's my LS read. But that is so useless that I don't want to waste time doing that. The basic is that I ddin't find LS scummy when I read that Damred post, then I found LS scummy when I finished reading the thread. The end.


Give me a break dude. If you post stuff as you catch on while having a conversation then one never has an idea if you're changing opinion cause you're being confronted with accusations or cause you're absorbing new content. But then it's your fault for posting too early not mine for finding it scummy.

I also reserve the right to lynch you without being called fucking dumb. I don't have any beef with you I just think you're not being townie.

Well now that you know the fucking facts you can stop being a pain in the ass


By facts you mean the wrong meta information you have spewed with complete confidence to excuse your reads not making sense?

Sure. If that makes me scum in your head so go ahead
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 16 2017 16:36 GMT
#351
On January 17 2017 01:34 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2017 01:14 Rels wrote:
On January 17 2017 01:11 Alakaslam wrote:
On January 17 2017 01:10 Rels wrote:
On January 17 2017 01:07 Alakaslam wrote:
On January 17 2017 01:03 Hapahauli wrote:
On January 17 2017 00:58 Alakaslam wrote:
On January 16 2017 21:39 Rels wrote:
Slam any feelings about the game ?

Ya!

HF is looking like a badass by running around discrediting people till he lynches them, and if they was town it's their fault for being bad, if scum it is because he is badass

Hapa running around being high tier, and generally sheepable and conftown IMSO.

Damdred and LS saying stuff that I think people putting too much stock in, u coming in here and being generally wise but also making too much of HF and Hapa, with regard to H8 HF just because he sez stuff that is aggro


How am I sheepable when the only public read I've stuck with is a town read on Vivax?

Because for once, you are someone who has used reason over emotion here.

What do you mean by "for once" ?

I mean for the first time I have observed on this site since my returning.

I'm calling bullshit on that. I used very logical arguments last game and you still correctly call me scum 'cause I was boring.

Was this chezinu?

I don't remember doing this. If it was before the island, well, 3/4 year can do a lot to change someone.

On December 20 2016 19:03 Alakaslam wrote:
Rels is too unsure in the wrong places.

Just a vibe; vibes fail me a lot.


Just tossing it out there because fish, mc chicken, I'm voting the vibe. So this vote isn't technically a ninja vote.

(I did this at 2AM but whatever.)

On December 20 2016 19:15 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2016 19:09 Rels wrote:
On December 20 2016 19:03 Alakaslam wrote:
Rels is too unsure in the wrong places.

Just a vibe; vibes fail me a lot.


Just tossing it out there because fish, mc chicken, I'm voting the vibe. So this vote isn't technically a ninja vote.

(I did this at 2AM but whatever.)

What does that mean ? What am I unsure wrongly about ?

some of your stances on disformation, some of your ideas regarding who would be scum why, that kind of thing.

I find it odd though, what could I have meant? I find that I am really unclear, even in IRL with people. That probably explains lots of people's confusion with me on here. I am just a really bad communicator.

Like I would assume people would get what I meant from what I said, that they'd see the subtleties I intended rather than others. So I wouldn't think the subtleties through

like what could I even mean

Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 16 2017 16:40 GMT
#355
On January 17 2017 01:38 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2017 01:36 Rels wrote:
On January 17 2017 01:34 Alakaslam wrote:
On January 17 2017 01:14 Rels wrote:
On January 17 2017 01:11 Alakaslam wrote:
On January 17 2017 01:10 Rels wrote:
On January 17 2017 01:07 Alakaslam wrote:
On January 17 2017 01:03 Hapahauli wrote:
On January 17 2017 00:58 Alakaslam wrote:
On January 16 2017 21:39 Rels wrote:
Slam any feelings about the game ?

Ya!

HF is looking like a badass by running around discrediting people till he lynches them, and if they was town it's their fault for being bad, if scum it is because he is badass

Hapa running around being high tier, and generally sheepable and conftown IMSO.

Damdred and LS saying stuff that I think people putting too much stock in, u coming in here and being generally wise but also making too much of HF and Hapa, with regard to H8 HF just because he sez stuff that is aggro


How am I sheepable when the only public read I've stuck with is a town read on Vivax?

Because for once, you are someone who has used reason over emotion here.

What do you mean by "for once" ?

I mean for the first time I have observed on this site since my returning.

I'm calling bullshit on that. I used very logical arguments last game and you still correctly call me scum 'cause I was boring.

Was this chezinu?

I don't remember doing this. If it was before the island, well, 3/4 year can do a lot to change someone.

On December 20 2016 19:03 Alakaslam wrote:
Rels is too unsure in the wrong places.

Just a vibe; vibes fail me a lot.


Just tossing it out there because fish, mc chicken, I'm voting the vibe. So this vote isn't technically a ninja vote.

(I did this at 2AM but whatever.)

On December 20 2016 19:15 Alakaslam wrote:
On December 20 2016 19:09 Rels wrote:
On December 20 2016 19:03 Alakaslam wrote:
Rels is too unsure in the wrong places.

Just a vibe; vibes fail me a lot.


Just tossing it out there because fish, mc chicken, I'm voting the vibe. So this vote isn't technically a ninja vote.

(I did this at 2AM but whatever.)

What does that mean ? What am I unsure wrongly about ?

some of your stances on disformation, some of your ideas regarding who would be scum why, that kind of thing.

I find it odd though, what could I have meant? I find that I am really unclear, even in IRL with people. That probably explains lots of people's confusion with me on here. I am just a really bad communicator.

Like I would assume people would get what I meant from what I said, that they'd see the subtleties I intended rather than others. So I wouldn't think the subtleties through

like what could I even mean


I stand corrected, and return that it was mid/late game, with a different roster, not d1 with Hapa. HF was in that game though

this makes some kind of weird sense. Do you have an history with Hapa ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 16 2017 16:55 GMT
#359
On January 17 2017 01:38 Hapahauli wrote:

You make all three of these posts last night basically back to back to back.
- In post 1, you say you are "partial" to people defending you, which implies that you liked my defense of you. You ultimately conclude that my posting was at the very least non-alignment indicative.
- In post 2, merely 4 minutes later, this you call me mafia for the same reasons as in post 1.
- In post 3, 20 minutes later, you talk about me a ton, but waffle between calling my actions scummy and calling them excusable.

I don't understand this train of thought at all.

Don't see how that's scummy. Townie being unsure, especially early game, is not weird
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 16 2017 16:56 GMT
#361
Hapa I might be tunneled. But again all of these questions seem pointless to me. They look good but won't add anything meaningful. Not the Vivax one, but the other two
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