Thanks. That leads me to the point. Why did LS get lynched? Cause there was one less vote on HF, or cause people actually believed LS is scum based on some random lazy posts by Damdred and HF?

From Hapa POV, it makes total sense. And it's kinda true too. I think if you stay on HF HF gets lynched yesterday. On the grand scheme of things, OK your switch shouldn't have been the reason a player is not lynched. But in this game I don't think HF escapes lynch if you don't switch.
On that post Hapa says he's staying on HF even if you're voting him:

On January 18 2017 02:20 Hapahauli wrote:
No bargains. I'm on Holyflare until the bitter end.

Then he's forced tro switch to LS. That's where his madness comes from. It's understandable. After talking to you he again changed his mind. It's not hard to understand. His mindset makes sense.

Rels

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January 18 2017 15:44 GMT

#1114

On January 19 2017 00:34 Holyflare wrote:
rels can I get you expert opinion? can you translate what vivax is saying for me since you seemed to agree with him d1?

Why do you not understand ? Vivax is clear on why he's suspecting you. On one argument (Vivax voted LS) you claim he read a sentence wrong. On the other (the Damdred TMI stuff) you claim it doesn't make sense.

Rels

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January 18 2017 15:53 GMT

#1121

On January 19 2017 00:45 Holyflare wrote:

Show nested quote +

I get the sentence thing because I badly worded it.

I don't get the damdred thing at all. That's what I want you to explain to me.

It's been explained a lot. That's still why I'm not confident calling you town TBF.
LS says scum!Damdred never hard townread him.
Hapa ignores that fact 'cause it is not a good thing to take into account for him.
You attacked him saying he should have take it into account.
That's weird. But what's even weirder is that you don't take it into account yourself. Or if you do like you later said you did, it's not strong at all. So it's weird that it makes Hapa scum in your mind.

Rels

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January 18 2017 16:02 GMT

#1128

HF why Slam over damdred ?

Rels

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January 18 2017 16:03 GMT

#1130

On January 19 2017 00:58 Vivax wrote:
So Rels what do you say about HF calling Slam scum? To me Onegu scum looks like the road of least resistance for a mafia but then again, it could be cuz I'm scumreading HF.

Nothing. Depends on why he thinks Slam is scum.

Rels

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January 18 2017 16:09 GMT

#1136

On January 19 2017 01:05 Holyflare wrote:

Show nested quote +

because damdred voted ls with me and I liked that he did (pretty sure he saw the contradiction at the same time as me) whereas slam promised to do some scum hunting and has followed the same sentiment as onegu about "leaving the good people alive" but not actually taking stances on their alignment. Slam also said not to lynch any of us but immediately was fine jumping onto me when I'm pretty sure I already had majority and he was complaining about it whilst doing nothing.

It heavily hints to him knowing I'm town and complaining pre-flip about something that he doesn't want to change to get a mislynch.

And it doesn't bother you that Damdred had 3 posts before deadline, voting LS who he supposedly read very well, then goes "I was wrong" and GTFO ?

Rels

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January 18 2017 16:26 GMT

#1148

leaving work. I've said what I think. Only thing new is that HF seems prone to try and shitfight while claiming he wanna end the fight. Maybe.
See you tomorrow if I'm alive

Rels

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January 23 2017 17:37 GMT

#1817

so obvious

Rels

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January 23 2017 17:38 GMT

#1820

wp HF on getting the lynch off you D1 & getting Hapa lynched D2. Pretty good play

Rels

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January 23 2017 18:16 GMT

#1827

On one hand hf played well to Lynch HAPA d2 when it should not have been possible. On the other hand I felt he was super scummy all game

Rels

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January 23 2017 18:37 GMT

#1831

Haha

Rels

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January 24 2017 11:04 GMT

#1885

On January 24 2017 08:44 iamperfection wrote:
Onegu- mvp
Holyflare- 80
Bill Murray- 25
Vivax - 10
Rels- 10
LightningStrike - 10
Hapahauli- 0
Damdred - 0
Alakaslam- 0

i gave the points that i took away from the mod kills and self voters to holyflare. Im pretty sure holyflare wins this game easily if his partner was anyone but alakaslam or damdred.

updated standings

1.Holyflare- 105
2.sicklucker- 50
3. Bill Murray- 25
4.LightningStrike- 20
4.Rels- 20
5.Alakaslam-10
5.ExO_-10
5.Kmatt-10
5.disformation-10
5.Vivax - 10

I have so many problems with that.
IMO Hapa or Vivax should get MVP. They caught HF D1 with really nice logic. Hapa in particular. And HF didn't get lynched D1 because BM Slam Damdred and Onegu resisted the lynch, then followed by Vivax. In another town HF gets lynched D1 there.
Then Hapa gets mad D2. And he was kidna right to be mad. He was obvious town, he was pusing both scum. And he got counter pushed by HF and Onegu for very, very bad reasons. So bad I thought Onegu & HF were the team for sure. And Hapa did too.
During LYLO though Onegu and BM were super good. But in a normal game it would have been too late. Especially if Damdred didn't get modkilled, no way he isn't lynched during LYLO. The stars aligned (scum + super scummy lurker modkilled) to create that LYLO where BM and Onegu could shine.
To conclude I think Onegu getting the MVP for only his last day play is not fair. He played well the last day, but it shouldn't have mattered. He was part of the reason HF didn't get lynch D1, then "obvious town" Hapa got mad and lynched D2.

Rels

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January 24 2017 11:04 GMT

#1886

Don't think we have access to the scum QT ?

Rels

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January 24 2017 12:02 GMT

#1892

Yeah I didn't talk about BM cause he received more points than other already. But I agree he played really well. He managed to get townread by everyone with very few posts during d1 and made the right call in lylo.

Rels

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January 24 2017 16:50 GMT

#1919

On January 25 2017 01:21 Damdred wrote:
I like to think if i was able to be active unlike what rels thinks I wouldn't of been lynch bait in lylo. I am kinda good at the game when I am able to focus which didn't happen. Damdred who indeed

Oh I don't disagree on that. But since Onegu was hard scumreading you during D2, I think it would have been a really hard battle to not get lynched D3 if you didn't get modkilled. And even if you managed that the lynch still needed to fall on HF instead of Onegu or BM. Seems unlikely.

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