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Given the new content he provided, I decided to read kmatt's posts because he's pretty hard to read and he keeps pinging me because his posts are obviously polished (which isn't AI in this context but I have to keep telling myself that because it bugs me every time he posts) and well different from his other games. His reads in his list were also confusing and weren't transparent at all. But even with that in mind, I think he fared well when he came out of his shell a bit and started interacting more since he seemed to be posting more off-the-cuff/ naturally compared to posting a list and popping off again.
Wait, just realised. So he has that reads list. Why would he say "I'm focusing on one (scum) read, no point making excess calls" or whatever in the same breath that he makes reads on everyone when he could have been doing the focusing on that scum-read? That doesn't mesh together.
But then he also agrees with me that Boston is scummy so I'm not so sure. But he got two of his reads mixed up (I think) so I'm not sure if he means Boston or if he's just not paying attention there. Man he is a mess.
So he's back at null, not because he's done nothing AI but because I don't know whether the scum aspects outweigh the potential town motivations.
SW, what's your take on him? (also goes to anyone else popping in)
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Boston is just in his own little world, detached from the thread and floating by without a single fuck given for all the other stuff going on. His entrance was terrible and his follow-up just reinforces my read. He is too hung up on a player who hasn't DONE anything and is relatively inactive with no reason given and doesn't talk about anything else. Furthermore, he's not actually following through on his Onegu read or vote with anything substantial or trying to convince people or caring much. He's just there.
If we're going for someone low-activity then this is the most likely to hit scum atm.
##vote B0stonSC
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On January 07 2017 07:32 B0stonSC wrote: Okay, so after catching up, I have a few things to respond on.
First, as to why I am not more active, is that I have not a whole lot of time to play mafia during the week, so what I am doing is catching up, responding to everything I feel needs a response, giving my reads, then getting back off. You may flame me for this, but unless it's the weekend this will be how I play. I do have a life you know, but mafia is a lot of fun (which is why I wanted to play it).
As to why I voted Onegu (asked three times, by my count), he has made a claim (with the first post of the game) and then posted a non informative post. That's all he has done. I wanted to see what happens if he gets a bit of pressure on him, but after this amount of time I feel that he is just inactive.
On to my reads, Kmatt feels very much a scummy player to me becuase he is posting quite a bit now, but it doesn't feel like he is accomplishing anything. DarthFoley seems waaaay too defensive, so that seems odd, but I'll keep looking at him so I can get a more solid read. Vivax and MichaelEhrmantraut seem a bit off. Nothing suspicious, but just a bit not quite correct to me. This is more of a gut read than anything else, so I'll be doing a reread (probably today) for just them to see what's up.
Good timing.
I am dubious of you calling the Onegu vote a pressure vote since you didn't give him anything to respond to nor did you try to convince other people about it.
Assuming you're being truthful, are you considering switching your vote or are you wanting to continue this 'pressure' and why?
I'll await the better reads then. You get points for not rambling on about a bunch of town reads - newb!scum would be more likely to TMI there or just scum-read their partners.
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I don't give a fuck about how many times someone posts or if they're inactive. It's what you said and did when you weren't inactive that's scummy.
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On January 07 2017 07:40 SilverWolf77 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2017 07:17 Calix wrote: Given the new content he provided, I decided to read kmatt's posts because he's pretty hard to read and he keeps pinging me because his posts are obviously polished (which isn't AI in this context but I have to keep telling myself that because it bugs me every time he posts) and well different from his other games. His reads in his list were also confusing and weren't transparent at all. But even with that in mind, I think he fared well when he came out of his shell a bit and started interacting more since he seemed to be posting more off-the-cuff/ naturally compared to posting a list and popping off again.
Wait, just realised. So he has that reads list. Why would he say "I'm focusing on one (scum) read, no point making excess calls" or whatever in the same breath that he makes reads on everyone when he could have been doing the focusing on that scum-read? That doesn't mesh together.
But then he also agrees with me that Boston is scummy so I'm not so sure. But he got two of his reads mixed up (I think) so I'm not sure if he means Boston or if he's just not paying attention there. Man he is a mess.
So he's back at null, not because he's done nothing AI but because I don't know whether the scum aspects outweigh the potential town motivations.
SW, what's your take on him? (also goes to anyone else popping in) I don't know anything about how he usually plays but I do like his follow up answers to your questioning about his reads. He did a good job of explaining them and his thought process seems transparent enough. I would lean town on him. I also like darthfoley's latest posts and re-reading him I would lean town as well. This is more tone and gut. Still have ika, Calix, KelsierSC as town as well for previous stated reasons. Vivax I explained what I don't like. I also don't care for B0stonSC but that's because he is not answering any questions, just posting filler type posts and then leaves, doing nothing to advance the gamestate or scumhunt. ME-same thing. He pops in, gives the minimal answers to ika's questions, then complains things are too confusing and leaves. I consider them both nervous and unsure about themselves and scummier than the other null people as a result. reps, grack, btdt, Onegu are all null and I'd like them to post more
I don't have a lot of strong reads because I only really started to filter-dive now but this is where I'm at:
Town-lean: SW, DF, ika Null: BTDT (hasn't posted), kmatt (see previous posts), Onegu (done nothing AI) Need to read: Grack (don't remember anything he's posted), reps (I remember thinking that he's one of the least-worst newbs), KSC (need to reread/ evaluate) Scum-lean: Vivax (poor reactions to SW/ ika/ Vivax debacle + discrepancy with reads vs actions around them), Boston (bad entrance + detached from thread + Onegu vote), ME (bad entrance, then popped in later to do nothing. Not as sure here though)
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Where does DF say that he doesn't like ika making troll posts? I found him saying "ika's play is more trolly than I prefer" which isn't the same thing.
I don't consider troll openings to be AI on this site, sadly, so I'm not sure I follow on your first point. Is it the exclamation marks that rub you the wrong way or something?
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On January 07 2017 08:26 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2017 07:28 Calix wrote: Boston is just in his own little world, detached from the thread and floating by without a single fuck given for all the other stuff going on. His entrance was terrible and his follow-up just reinforces my read. He is too hung up on a player who hasn't DONE anything and is relatively inactive with no reason given and doesn't talk about anything else. Furthermore, he's not actually following through on his Onegu read or vote with anything substantial or trying to convince people or caring much. He's just there.
If we're going for someone low-activity then this is the most likely to hit scum atm.
##vote B0stonSC I thought you agreed with my point that B0ston's entrance, albeit awkward, was more likely to come from town!newb than scum!newb? I don't understand why this post is super uber aggressive when nothing really had changed. I know you said you're waiting on his reads but I disagree with your conclusion that he's most likely scum out of the low activity posters. Why not make the same argument against Onegu, for example?
I did but that reasoning isn't strong enough to excuse the rest of my case.
I read Boston's filter just before making that post and realised how awful it is.
Onegu has not done anything AI at all. Claiming a role at the start of the game means nothing.
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On January 07 2017 08:31 darthfoley wrote: @Calix Like do you really expect every player who goes AFK for a period of time to provide a reason why? If so, I can wait for the impending doom for btdt and Onegu lol
I don't know what you're referring to here since I explicitly said that I didn't care about AFKing on its own.
Who exactly do you want lynched if not Boston or what have you?
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On January 07 2017 08:48 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2017 08:36 Calix wrote:On January 07 2017 08:31 darthfoley wrote: @Calix Like do you really expect every player who goes AFK for a period of time to provide a reason why? If so, I can wait for the impending doom for btdt and Onegu lol I don't know what you're referring to here since I explicitly said that I didn't care about AFKing on its own. Who exactly do you want lynched if not Boston or what have you? Well I think ME has done everything you're accusing B0ston of, but worse. I like reps' questions but I dont remember him having any concrete reads yet, which concerns me. I'm also waiting for Onegu/Kelsier/btdt to catch up and/post anything. I don't know why people are town reading Kelsier, he's a scum read for me at the moment
Yeah and I have a scum-lean on ME although I don't get how he can do worse when he just exists. Actually read my posts so I don't have to repeat myself. I'm tired.
Oh? For what reason?
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Before I say anything else, can I just make one thing clear?
Being proud that you're a stubborn arsehole ISN'T A GOOD THING. It just leads to these retarded arguments that we have to slog through.
This is coming from me here.
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On January 07 2017 15:33 SilverWolf77 wrote: @Calix-Last game you played with Grack was it similar to this and what was his alignment then?
I've only ever seen him as town.
Last game we played, he seemed more engaged with the thread events than he is here and had better points against his scum-reads (e.g., Koshi). However that game wasn't over the holiday period and I got into a shit-fight with him so I would have to reread.
Then there was a game before that but I don't recall a lot about his play aside from his attempts to lynch HF as a counter-wagon to TT (D1 ML).
I don't think him being stubborn is AI in this case if that's what you're asking. I think the way he's being stubborn this game is more overt than what I've seen because other than the argument we had in CM (which was mostly me accusing him, not the other way around), I don't recall him dragging out an issue to epic proportions.
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It is insane how much spam there is to wade through despite the general inactivity.
That argument was a massive time-waster and Grack did a great job with derailing the conversation and dragging out an irrelevant topic into a bigger thing than it should have been. Given that he didn't actually defend Vivax properly or do anything other than bicker with ika about "burden of proof" or what the fuck ever, this looks more like scumplay than a townie being a shitter.
All of that could have been saved with a conclusive "Vivax is town because this post shows XYZ town motivations" and done, but instead we had like five pages dedicated to this. Not gonna lie, I started skimming midway through and don't think I missed any new information re: Grack, ika, SW.
However I don't think that Grack/ Vivax are a scum team because it doesn't make sense for scum!Grack to be so stubborn about explaining his town-read on his team mate and do it so poorly (since it would convince nobody to switch off Vivax). I still think that the points against Vivax hold strong but Grack's defense (which doesn't actually do a good job at defending Vivax) is giving me cold feet.
I'm currently thinking that there's a scummer among those two so I'll be rereading Vivax before EOD.
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Also noticed that this dude was posting at the same time.
On January 07 2017 13:08 reps)squishy wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2017 13:04 Grackaroni wrote:On January 07 2017 12:47 Onegu wrote: She is town because she was the first to call Boston out. And then the back and forth with Vivax doesnt come from scum. Never Never Never. More so in a newbie game as someone who never played with most of the people in this game. Let me just point out that this does not satisfy the requirements set forth, that you have now failed to meet the burden of proof, and you are dodging the question entirely. Grack are you trying to cause conflict deliberately. This looks like a scum thing to do because it causes disorder and chaos. Instead of trying to get leads it devolves into a huge argument over burden of proof. I argue to any townie please do not fall into this trap.
Townpile.
I like his posting, especially against Grack. Not necessarily in the sense that I 100% agree with him (although in this incident, I do agree that Grack's behaviour is chaos-causing). It's more because he's trying to engage with the thread events instead of avoiding them and the way he gives his reads is straightforward and clear. You get a good idea of how he operates when it comes to scum-hunting.
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On January 07 2017 14:02 Grackaroni wrote: Calix is going to laugh when she sees this. Then she's going to be all smug.
Calix was right about something? Shocking.
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On January 07 2017 10:09 ika42 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2017 10:02 ika42 wrote: so now that im caught up heres my read list that i have compiled
1) reps)squishy - sligth town 2) Kmatt - slight town 3) MichaelEhrmantraut - lean scum 4) ika42 -town 5) SilverWolf77 - town 6) B0stonSC - -null
Vets 1) beentheredonethat - null 2) Grackaroni- null 3) KelsierSC - scum 4) Onegu - claims VT 5) darthfoley - town lean 6) Calix -null 7) Vivax - scum lean
i have way too many nulls for my liking overall. updated after running iso on the newbs im gonna get food bbl
Why is Boston a null to you?
Speaking more generally to you and DF, what's the rationale behind voting for KSC? I found DF's post to be interesting as an observation but I wouldn't vote for KSC based on that. Meanwhile I'm not seeing why you think KSC is scum or much talk about him from you. You call out Grack for not trying to convince people to lynch his scum-reads but you're being unclear with your KSC scum-read also.
I think KSC's wagon is the most pure atm so pls explain where you're coming from in more detail.
On January 07 2017 10:59 Grackaroni wrote: Ika please prove to me that you are not scum.
As for the Grack thing, this was the initial response. Another example of snarky responses to reasonable questions. I fail to see town motivation for being stubborn for the sake of it when it comes to explaining a town-read that nobody agrees with. He later claims that he thinks the entire thing is stupid but given that he helped fuel the argument into a 5-page fiasco, that reasoning looks fake to me. People who think things are stupid don't continue to focus on the stupid thing when they could spend their time better on something more productive or just leave the thread.
On January 07 2017 11:21 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2017 11:19 ika42 wrote:On January 07 2017 11:05 Grackaroni wrote: Which of your posts are townie? Can you tell me why they are townie? Love the avoiding of my question and instead deflect it back to me. It goes straight to the heart of the question. If you cannot quote some posts to prove yourself town to me then surely I cannot do so to convince you that Vivax is town I've already given an answer that I find satisfactory. I like the effort he's putting into the game. I like the angles that he's pushing. I like his attitude and response to being pressured.
Grack's later argument here, which I am inferring to be that explaining town-reads is pointless because it won't convince people, would be fine taken by itself. However when I look at his filter, it doesn't fit. Firstly, his filter has a load of town-reads in it and few scum-reads (and the two scum-reads he has suck because they don't show actual scum motivation). If he doesn't think that explaining town-reads will convince people then why would he spend so much time posting about them?
Secondly, what's the point of saying "I'll explain my read once you've explained your town-read on SW" when he doesn't think that he can convince people of his read anyway and doesn't scum-read SW? Poor priorities at best, busywork at worst. Given everything else, I don't think he really believes what he's posting here.
Thirdly, his filter is a lot worse than I thought it was going to be. Most of it is devoted to the argument and his posts before that were weak town-reads and off-topic posts which don't do anything. I would vote for him over Vivax since Vivax was at least pushing the game forward when he was here while Grack hasn't.
As for Boston, my reads here still apply so I'd like people to talk about him more before he comes back as the Grack argument sucked the air out of the room in terms of discussion focus.
+ Show Spoiler +On January 06 2017 15:53 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2017 11:48 B0stonSC wrote: Hello! Sorry, hadn't realized this has started. Let me read through everything, and then I'll post thoughts This post pings me but I can't really figure out why. Like he posts this 2-4 hours-ish into the game and starts off by apologising for not being around here earlier which is pretty weird for town to do. I can't imagine myself saying sorry for something as a first post kind of deal so I don't get why he would is what I'm getting at. On January 07 2017 07:28 Calix wrote: Boston is just in his own little world, detached from the thread and floating by without a single fuck given for all the other stuff going on. His entrance was terrible and his follow-up just reinforces my read. He is too hung up on a player who hasn't DONE anything and is relatively inactive with no reason given and doesn't talk about anything else. Furthermore, he's not actually following through on his Onegu read or vote with anything substantial or trying to convince people or caring much. He's just there.
If we're going for someone low-activity then this is the most likely to hit scum atm.
##vote B0stonSC
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I am way too lazy to read the OP. Good thing that DF is here to regurgitate stuff from it and save me the bother.
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On January 08 2017 02:08 ika42 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2017 21:58 Calix wrote:On January 07 2017 10:09 ika42 wrote:On January 07 2017 10:02 ika42 wrote: so now that im caught up heres my read list that i have compiled
1) reps)squishy - sligth town 2) Kmatt - slight town 3) MichaelEhrmantraut - lean scum 4) ika42 -town 5) SilverWolf77 - town 6) B0stonSC - -null
Vets 1) beentheredonethat - null 2) Grackaroni- null 3) KelsierSC - scum 4) Onegu - claims VT 5) darthfoley - town lean 6) Calix -null 7) Vivax - scum lean
i have way too many nulls for my liking overall. updated after running iso on the newbs im gonna get food bbl Why is Boston a null to you? Speaking more generally to you and DF, what's the rationale behind voting for KSC? I found DF's post to be interesting as an observation but I wouldn't vote for KSC based on that. Meanwhile I'm not seeing why you think KSC is scum or much talk about him from you. You call out Grack for not trying to convince people to lynch his scum-reads but you're being unclear with your KSC scum-read also. I think KSC's wagon is the most pure atm so pls explain where you're coming from in more detail. On January 07 2017 10:59 Grackaroni wrote: Ika please prove to me that you are not scum. As for the Grack thing, this was the initial response. Another example of snarky responses to reasonable questions. I fail to see town motivation for being stubborn for the sake of it when it comes to explaining a town-read that nobody agrees with. He later claims that he thinks the entire thing is stupid but given that he helped fuel the argument into a 5-page fiasco, that reasoning looks fake to me. People who think things are stupid don't continue to focus on the stupid thing when they could spend their time better on something more productive or just leave the thread. On January 07 2017 11:21 Grackaroni wrote:On January 07 2017 11:19 ika42 wrote:On January 07 2017 11:05 Grackaroni wrote: Which of your posts are townie? Can you tell me why they are townie? Love the avoiding of my question and instead deflect it back to me. It goes straight to the heart of the question. If you cannot quote some posts to prove yourself town to me then surely I cannot do so to convince you that Vivax is town I've already given an answer that I find satisfactory. I like the effort he's putting into the game. I like the angles that he's pushing. I like his attitude and response to being pressured. Grack's later argument here, which I am inferring to be that explaining town-reads is pointless because it won't convince people, would be fine taken by itself. However when I look at his filter, it doesn't fit. Firstly, his filter has a load of town-reads in it and few scum-reads (and the two scum-reads he has suck because they don't show actual scum motivation). If he doesn't think that explaining town-reads will convince people then why would he spend so much time posting about them? Secondly, what's the point of saying "I'll explain my read once you've explained your town-read on SW" when he doesn't think that he can convince people of his read anyway and doesn't scum-read SW? Poor priorities at best, busywork at worst. Given everything else, I don't think he really believes what he's posting here. Thirdly, his filter is a lot worse than I thought it was going to be. Most of it is devoted to the argument and his posts before that were weak town-reads and off-topic posts which don't do anything. I would vote for him over Vivax since Vivax was at least pushing the game forward when he was here while Grack hasn't. As for Boston, my reads here still apply so I'd like people to talk about him more before he comes back as the Grack argument sucked the air out of the room in terms of discussion focus. + Show Spoiler +On January 06 2017 15:53 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2017 11:48 B0stonSC wrote: Hello! Sorry, hadn't realized this has started. Let me read through everything, and then I'll post thoughts This post pings me but I can't really figure out why. Like he posts this 2-4 hours-ish into the game and starts off by apologising for not being around here earlier which is pretty weird for town to do. I can't imagine myself saying sorry for something as a first post kind of deal so I don't get why he would is what I'm getting at. On January 07 2017 07:28 Calix wrote: Boston is just in his own little world, detached from the thread and floating by without a single fuck given for all the other stuff going on. His entrance was terrible and his follow-up just reinforces my read. He is too hung up on a player who hasn't DONE anything and is relatively inactive with no reason given and doesn't talk about anything else. Furthermore, he's not actually following through on his Onegu read or vote with anything substantial or trying to convince people or caring much. He's just there.
If we're going for someone low-activity then this is the most likely to hit scum atm.
##vote B0stonSC I said it earlier on why i scum read him. I dunno the post but what pinged me off was the bolded Show nested quote +On January 06 2017 10:59 KelsierSC wrote:On January 06 2017 10:57 SilverWolf77 wrote:On January 06 2017 10:55 KelsierSC wrote:
so how you reading ika atm? Slight townread based on posting the questions to get us talking and his activity and interest in the game so far. But he may be just copying his town meta so I'm keeping an eye on him still. yeh...like if i was you that is what I would be thinking if I was town. i have to go into work tomorrow unfortunately but only for like 1hr so should be on tomorrow. I know it seems like i've just been jerking off in the thread, and whilst this is true I think Calix, silver and ika are probably town and everyone else is kind of blegh. Grak is mafia though, im pretty happy with my vote at the moment. he gives implications that he himself is not town when referring to it in general. bost i had as town at first but then saw it was the one you were gut reading and i agreed on and after running an iso, i would vote it in a heatbeat becasue of the over abundance of excuses. Silverwolf does this a lot as scum and i have seen countless games of this crap done by scum
Good catch with KSC. I hesitate to call it a scum slip (as most of those tend to be wrong FME) but it shows a detached mentality for sure.
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On January 08 2017 02:12 ika42 wrote: calix if you had to name the scum team right now who would it be? i don't care for reasons i just want a gun to head
I don't do teams until a scummer's flipped and even then, but Boston, ME and one of Vivax/ Grackaroni is where I'm at with scum-reads.
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On January 08 2017 02:57 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2017 02:14 Calix wrote:On January 08 2017 02:08 ika42 wrote:On January 07 2017 21:58 Calix wrote:On January 07 2017 10:09 ika42 wrote:On January 07 2017 10:02 ika42 wrote: so now that im caught up heres my read list that i have compiled
1) reps)squishy - sligth town 2) Kmatt - slight town 3) MichaelEhrmantraut - lean scum 4) ika42 -town 5) SilverWolf77 - town 6) B0stonSC - -null
Vets 1) beentheredonethat - null 2) Grackaroni- null 3) KelsierSC - scum 4) Onegu - claims VT 5) darthfoley - town lean 6) Calix -null 7) Vivax - scum lean
i have way too many nulls for my liking overall. updated after running iso on the newbs im gonna get food bbl Why is Boston a null to you? Speaking more generally to you and DF, what's the rationale behind voting for KSC? I found DF's post to be interesting as an observation but I wouldn't vote for KSC based on that. Meanwhile I'm not seeing why you think KSC is scum or much talk about him from you. You call out Grack for not trying to convince people to lynch his scum-reads but you're being unclear with your KSC scum-read also. I think KSC's wagon is the most pure atm so pls explain where you're coming from in more detail. On January 07 2017 10:59 Grackaroni wrote: Ika please prove to me that you are not scum. As for the Grack thing, this was the initial response. Another example of snarky responses to reasonable questions. I fail to see town motivation for being stubborn for the sake of it when it comes to explaining a town-read that nobody agrees with. He later claims that he thinks the entire thing is stupid but given that he helped fuel the argument into a 5-page fiasco, that reasoning looks fake to me. People who think things are stupid don't continue to focus on the stupid thing when they could spend their time better on something more productive or just leave the thread. On January 07 2017 11:21 Grackaroni wrote:On January 07 2017 11:19 ika42 wrote:On January 07 2017 11:05 Grackaroni wrote: Which of your posts are townie? Can you tell me why they are townie? Love the avoiding of my question and instead deflect it back to me. It goes straight to the heart of the question. If you cannot quote some posts to prove yourself town to me then surely I cannot do so to convince you that Vivax is town I've already given an answer that I find satisfactory. I like the effort he's putting into the game. I like the angles that he's pushing. I like his attitude and response to being pressured. Grack's later argument here, which I am inferring to be that explaining town-reads is pointless because it won't convince people, would be fine taken by itself. However when I look at his filter, it doesn't fit. Firstly, his filter has a load of town-reads in it and few scum-reads (and the two scum-reads he has suck because they don't show actual scum motivation). If he doesn't think that explaining town-reads will convince people then why would he spend so much time posting about them? Secondly, what's the point of saying "I'll explain my read once you've explained your town-read on SW" when he doesn't think that he can convince people of his read anyway and doesn't scum-read SW? Poor priorities at best, busywork at worst. Given everything else, I don't think he really believes what he's posting here. Thirdly, his filter is a lot worse than I thought it was going to be. Most of it is devoted to the argument and his posts before that were weak town-reads and off-topic posts which don't do anything. I would vote for him over Vivax since Vivax was at least pushing the game forward when he was here while Grack hasn't. As for Boston, my reads here still apply so I'd like people to talk about him more before he comes back as the Grack argument sucked the air out of the room in terms of discussion focus. + Show Spoiler +On January 06 2017 15:53 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2017 11:48 B0stonSC wrote: Hello! Sorry, hadn't realized this has started. Let me read through everything, and then I'll post thoughts This post pings me but I can't really figure out why. Like he posts this 2-4 hours-ish into the game and starts off by apologising for not being around here earlier which is pretty weird for town to do. I can't imagine myself saying sorry for something as a first post kind of deal so I don't get why he would is what I'm getting at. On January 07 2017 07:28 Calix wrote: Boston is just in his own little world, detached from the thread and floating by without a single fuck given for all the other stuff going on. His entrance was terrible and his follow-up just reinforces my read. He is too hung up on a player who hasn't DONE anything and is relatively inactive with no reason given and doesn't talk about anything else. Furthermore, he's not actually following through on his Onegu read or vote with anything substantial or trying to convince people or caring much. He's just there.
If we're going for someone low-activity then this is the most likely to hit scum atm.
##vote B0stonSC I said it earlier on why i scum read him. I dunno the post but what pinged me off was the bolded On January 06 2017 10:59 KelsierSC wrote:On January 06 2017 10:57 SilverWolf77 wrote:On January 06 2017 10:55 KelsierSC wrote:
so how you reading ika atm? Slight townread based on posting the questions to get us talking and his activity and interest in the game so far. But he may be just copying his town meta so I'm keeping an eye on him still. yeh...like if i was you that is what I would be thinking if I was town. i have to go into work tomorrow unfortunately but only for like 1hr so should be on tomorrow. I know it seems like i've just been jerking off in the thread, and whilst this is true I think Calix, silver and ika are probably town and everyone else is kind of blegh. Grak is mafia though, im pretty happy with my vote at the moment. he gives implications that he himself is not town when referring to it in general. bost i had as town at first but then saw it was the one you were gut reading and i agreed on and after running an iso, i would vote it in a heatbeat becasue of the over abundance of excuses. Silverwolf does this a lot as scum and i have seen countless games of this crap done by scum Good catch with KSC. I hesitate to call it a scum slip (as most of those tend to be wrong FME) but it shows a detached mentality for sure. What do you mean about a detached mentality Calix?
The way he phrased his opinion with "if I was town" is detached is what I mean there. Seems like a cold observation more than an opinion in terms of tone, if that makes sense.
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It looks like all the active people have similar opinions so consolidation shouldn't be a problem.
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