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Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
January 07 2017 22:13 GMT
#781
Why would you want to end the day early though?
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
January 07 2017 22:14 GMT
#782
Vote Count

Grackaroni (9) : KelsierSC, Kmatt, reps)squishy, SilverWolf77, ika42, beentheredonethat, ika42, Calix, Onegu, B0stonSC, reps)squishy
KelsierSC (2) : ika42, darthfoley, Vivax
MichaelEhrmantraut (1) : Vivax, Grackaroni
B0stonSC (0) : Calix, Onegu, beentheredonethat, reps)squishy
Calix (0) : beentheredonethat
Vivax (0) : SilverWolf77, beentheredonethat, Calix

Not voting (1) : MichaelEhrmantraut

Currently, Grackaroni is set to be lynched!
The day phase will end at Sunday, Jan 08 12:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), about 2 hours from this post.
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Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
January 07 2017 22:14 GMT
#783
On January 08 2017 07:10 B0stonSC wrote:
well I think that since Grackaroni was Counter Claimed I best put my vote on him. Shame as I was leaning town on him.

##Vote Grackaroni

And yes I'll be much more active now that it is the weekend.

Why were you town leaning on me?
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
January 07 2017 22:15 GMT
#784
I've been town reading Grack for a while and I don't think his response to Btdt's CC has been scummy at all

Now everyone is off Boston for the same reason: paranoia???

watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
January 07 2017 22:15 GMT
#785
On January 08 2017 07:09 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2017 06:59 Vivax wrote:
But I'm going to chill and just leave it at that impression cause I feel like I'd be jumping the gun calling you scum just for a single post.


Isn't that exactly what you did with me? Why are you giving him a pass?


I feel like you are posting like scum still, occasionally popping in to dump a post but not really seeming engaged. I can't get into some people's thick skulls though and stop them from lynching Grack, so might as well sit back and wait until they get what they want and fail at it. I'm already posting enough and flailing won't help when I have to get into a head made of concrete.
B0stonSC
Profile Joined November 2016
United States59 Posts
January 07 2017 22:16 GMT
#786
Thank you, good to know.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
January 07 2017 22:17 GMT
#787
On January 08 2017 07:15 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2017 07:09 darthfoley wrote:
On January 08 2017 06:59 Vivax wrote:
But I'm going to chill and just leave it at that impression cause I feel like I'd be jumping the gun calling you scum just for a single post.


Isn't that exactly what you did with me? Why are you giving him a pass?


I feel like you are posting like scum still, occasionally popping in to dump a post but not really seeming engaged. I can't get into some people's thick skulls though and stop them from lynching Grack, so might as well sit back and wait until they get what they want and fail at it. I'm already posting enough and flailing won't help when I have to get into a head made of concrete.


Can't remember if you talked about him but speaking of disengaged posting, what do you make of how kmatt posts?
Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
January 07 2017 22:18 GMT
#788
Let the record show that I totally called something silly happening. There's one issue I have with the doc counterclaim: Mafia is told the setup, and only 2 of 4 PRs are in play.

Let's say I'm scum. If I need a last resort to swing votes off of me, I would always claim a PR that isn't in play (so if this game has Doc/Vig I could claim Cop). By claiming a role that mafia is fully aware is in play, they leave that loophole open for a counterclaim. Between a 3 man mafia team and coaches, I just can't see such and not obvious detail be overlooked. Either scum!Grack and his team are morons or BTDT just verified the guy's claim.

Or am I missing some key detail here?
We CAN have nice things
B0stonSC
Profile Joined November 2016
United States59 Posts
January 07 2017 22:19 GMT
#789
And I was town reading Grack mostly because I didn't notice anything overly suspicious other than creating confusion. This isn't something that I normally lynch people for.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
January 07 2017 22:20 GMT
#790
On January 08 2017 07:19 B0stonSC wrote:
And I was town reading Grack mostly because I didn't notice anything overly suspicious other than creating confusion. This isn't something that I normally lynch people for.

That's not a reason to town read me though that's a reason not to scum read me.

Is there anything I had done that you had liked?
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
January 07 2017 22:23 GMT
#791
On January 08 2017 07:18 Kmatt wrote:
Let the record show that I totally called something silly happening. There's one issue I have with the doc counterclaim: Mafia is told the setup, and only 2 of 4 PRs are in play.

Let's say I'm scum. If I need a last resort to swing votes off of me, I would always claim a PR that isn't in play (so if this game has Doc/Vig I could claim Cop). By claiming a role that mafia is fully aware is in play, they leave that loophole open for a counterclaim. Between a 3 man mafia team and coaches, I just can't see such and not obvious detail be overlooked. Either scum!Grack and his team are morons or BTDT just verified the guy's claim.

Or am I missing some key detail here?


A good point. However I think you're overlooking that scum might want to draw out a PR before they die, especially a Protective (means nothing stops scum from killing who they want, after all). People were starting to be wary of a Boston lynch and votes were starting to go on Grack at the time.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
January 07 2017 22:24 GMT
#792
On January 08 2017 07:17 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2017 07:15 Vivax wrote:
On January 08 2017 07:09 darthfoley wrote:
On January 08 2017 06:59 Vivax wrote:
But I'm going to chill and just leave it at that impression cause I feel like I'd be jumping the gun calling you scum just for a single post.


Isn't that exactly what you did with me? Why are you giving him a pass?


I feel like you are posting like scum still, occasionally popping in to dump a post but not really seeming engaged. I can't get into some people's thick skulls though and stop them from lynching Grack, so might as well sit back and wait until they get what they want and fail at it. I'm already posting enough and flailing won't help when I have to get into a head made of concrete.


Can't remember if you talked about him but speaking of disengaged posting, what do you make of how kmatt posts?


Gut says town. His posts come off natural.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
January 07 2017 22:25 GMT
#793
On January 08 2017 07:23 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2017 07:18 Kmatt wrote:
Let the record show that I totally called something silly happening. There's one issue I have with the doc counterclaim: Mafia is told the setup, and only 2 of 4 PRs are in play.

Let's say I'm scum. If I need a last resort to swing votes off of me, I would always claim a PR that isn't in play (so if this game has Doc/Vig I could claim Cop). By claiming a role that mafia is fully aware is in play, they leave that loophole open for a counterclaim. Between a 3 man mafia team and coaches, I just can't see such and not obvious detail be overlooked. Either scum!Grack and his team are morons or BTDT just verified the guy's claim.

Or am I missing some key detail here?


A good point. However I think you're overlooking that scum might want to draw out a PR before they die, especially a Protective (means nothing stops scum from killing who they want, after all). People were starting to be wary of a Boston lynch and votes were starting to go on Grack at the time.

There can only be one of vet/doc and one of vig/cop. If I was scum and claimed veteran then I would still be counterclaimed by the doctor.
Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
January 07 2017 22:26 GMT
#794
On January 08 2017 07:23 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2017 07:18 Kmatt wrote:
Let the record show that I totally called something silly happening. There's one issue I have with the doc counterclaim: Mafia is told the setup, and only 2 of 4 PRs are in play.

Let's say I'm scum. If I need a last resort to swing votes off of me, I would always claim a PR that isn't in play (so if this game has Doc/Vig I could claim Cop). By claiming a role that mafia is fully aware is in play, they leave that loophole open for a counterclaim. Between a 3 man mafia team and coaches, I just can't see such and not obvious detail be overlooked. Either scum!Grack and his team are morons or BTDT just verified the guy's claim.

Or am I missing some key detail here?


A good point. However I think you're overlooking that scum might want to draw out a PR before they die, especially a Protective (means nothing stops scum from killing who they want, after all). People were starting to be wary of a Boston lynch and votes were starting to go on Grack at the time.


Damn it that's also a possibilty. Curse you game theory.
We CAN have nice things
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
January 07 2017 22:26 GMT
#795
On January 08 2017 07:25 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2017 07:23 Calix wrote:
On January 08 2017 07:18 Kmatt wrote:
Let the record show that I totally called something silly happening. There's one issue I have with the doc counterclaim: Mafia is told the setup, and only 2 of 4 PRs are in play.

Let's say I'm scum. If I need a last resort to swing votes off of me, I would always claim a PR that isn't in play (so if this game has Doc/Vig I could claim Cop). By claiming a role that mafia is fully aware is in play, they leave that loophole open for a counterclaim. Between a 3 man mafia team and coaches, I just can't see such and not obvious detail be overlooked. Either scum!Grack and his team are morons or BTDT just verified the guy's claim.

Or am I missing some key detail here?


A good point. However I think you're overlooking that scum might want to draw out a PR before they die, especially a Protective (means nothing stops scum from killing who they want, after all). People were starting to be wary of a Boston lynch and votes were starting to go on Grack at the time.

There can only be one of vet/doc and one of vig/cop. If I was scum and claimed veteran then I would still be counterclaimed by the doctor.


I don't get how that counters what I said or what your point is. Pls clarify.
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
January 07 2017 22:26 GMT
#796
I honestly don't think Grack is the right lynch here. But I'm also voting for my scum read with another one of my scum reads so who the fuck knows

Did everyone leave the Boston lynch ONLY because of the claim cc thing?
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
January 07 2017 22:27 GMT
#797
On January 08 2017 07:26 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2017 07:25 Grackaroni wrote:
On January 08 2017 07:23 Calix wrote:
On January 08 2017 07:18 Kmatt wrote:
Let the record show that I totally called something silly happening. There's one issue I have with the doc counterclaim: Mafia is told the setup, and only 2 of 4 PRs are in play.

Let's say I'm scum. If I need a last resort to swing votes off of me, I would always claim a PR that isn't in play (so if this game has Doc/Vig I could claim Cop). By claiming a role that mafia is fully aware is in play, they leave that loophole open for a counterclaim. Between a 3 man mafia team and coaches, I just can't see such and not obvious detail be overlooked. Either scum!Grack and his team are morons or BTDT just verified the guy's claim.

Or am I missing some key detail here?


A good point. However I think you're overlooking that scum might want to draw out a PR before they die, especially a Protective (means nothing stops scum from killing who they want, after all). People were starting to be wary of a Boston lynch and votes were starting to go on Grack at the time.

There can only be one of vet/doc and one of vig/cop. If I was scum and claimed veteran then I would still be counterclaimed by the doctor.


I don't get how that counters what I said or what your point is. Pls clarify.

I'm just trying to help you understand how the setup works. There's no option for me to claim a role that can't be counterclaimed.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
January 07 2017 22:28 GMT
#798
On January 08 2017 07:26 darthfoley wrote:
I honestly don't think Grack is the right lynch here. But I'm also voting for my scum read with another one of my scum reads so who the fuck knows

Did everyone leave the Boston lynch ONLY because of the claim cc thing?


Uh no. The Boston wagon became weirdly popular shortly beforehand and it was making me uneasy.

Given the events since then, I'm probably just overthinking that part of the thread.
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
January 07 2017 22:28 GMT
#799
On January 08 2017 07:23 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2017 07:18 Kmatt wrote:
Let the record show that I totally called something silly happening. There's one issue I have with the doc counterclaim: Mafia is told the setup, and only 2 of 4 PRs are in play.

Let's say I'm scum. If I need a last resort to swing votes off of me, I would always claim a PR that isn't in play (so if this game has Doc/Vig I could claim Cop). By claiming a role that mafia is fully aware is in play, they leave that loophole open for a counterclaim. Between a 3 man mafia team and coaches, I just can't see such and not obvious detail be overlooked. Either scum!Grack and his team are morons or BTDT just verified the guy's claim.

Or am I missing some key detail here?


A good point. However I think you're overlooking that scum might want to draw out a PR before they die, especially a Protective (means nothing stops scum from killing who they want, after all). People were starting to be wary of a Boston lynch and votes were starting to go on Grack at the time.


Yea but as Onegu and I have mentioned I don't think the claim happened at a time where it was clear Grack was good omg to be the lynch
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
MichaelEhrmantraut
Profile Joined December 2016
35 Posts
January 07 2017 22:35 GMT
#800
On January 06 2017 11:14 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2017 09:53 Calix wrote:
On January 06 2017 09:37 MichaelEhrmantraut wrote:
Checking In.

On January 06 2017 09:25 ika42 wrote:
On January 06 2017 09:06 Kmatt wrote:
On January 06 2017 09:00 Onegu wrote:
VT claim


Could you not


lets act like ive never played mafia for a min: why? and i dont want to hear the "oh it narrows PR" crap (yes this is a vaild reason but anyone will argue this). Yes it is sub optimal in general but why are you opposed to it?

also obligatory vote silverwolf

now onto something i want everyone to answer

are you town?
how long have you played mafia?
do you play elsewhere and if so where?
What is your typical play style?
how do you scumhunt/townhunt?
do you know anyone here that you can read very well?

to answer my own:
yes
about 4-5 years now on and off now
my typical style is to kinda talk to people and interact with others to try to get reads. most times it helps to have someone i know so i can quickly bounce with someone if they are town or lynch them if they are scum (hi silver)
kinda said as above, but to summarize it i hunt though interactions most of the time
yes, i can read silverwolf very well though watching and having interactions.


1. no
2. back in the day
3. no
4. ?
5. ?
6. nope

obligatory qeustion : why the vote ?




I'm flagging up this post because I think it's a possible example of an inexperienced scum player struggling to enter the thread. I didn't even notice this dude had posted.

- Using an easy way of entering the thread (via questionnaire thing) to make a post which doesn't tell us anything
- Adds a completely useless question about the vote (the 'obligatory' part pings me here)
- Does nothing afterwards

I'd say the opposite of this. I think if he was a nervous, inexperienced scum player he would put more effort into trying to make his first post look good.


So now that you are getting lynched, you changed your vote to me. Beats me.
I hate how spammy this game is especially with Calix and BTDT posting literally single-line posts for 3 pages, its better to not talk than to just spew absolute BS which is what has been happening all game. Also with B0stonSC bandwagon-ing onto someone's scum-read of me, when all I have done is posted thrice.
Also I don't understand why that questionnaire is being used as a way to scum-read me. Everyone who is/isn't town is obviously going to 'Yes' on the town thing. And i absolutely didn't know what to say on the rest of the questions. I am holding my vote until the deadline.
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