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Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 11 2017 23:59 GMT
#1312
idk Boston is a good shot to, his reasoning aroudn the grack lynch was really weird. He was town reading Grack but never really stopped to consider that it was btdt fake claiming and just voted his town read. Really weird.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 12 2017 00:04 GMT
#1315
Thats interesting.

Town read on Ika, Calix, DF

Meh: Onegu

Scum Lean: Squishy and boston


I left Kmatt out here since he claimed vig but now woudl be a decent time to cc if you are a vet basically.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 12 2017 00:06 GMT
#1319
On January 11 2017 10:08 SilverWolf77 wrote:
What do people say to Calix, darthfoley, Onegu scumteam?



If you mean this. I am not sure tbh, why leave the vig alive in what is 100% mylo at this point?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 12 2017 00:07 GMT
#1323
On January 12 2017 09:05 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2017 08:59 Damdred wrote:
idk Boston is a good shot to, his reasoning aroudn the grack lynch was really weird. He was town reading Grack but never really stopped to consider that it was btdt fake claiming and just voted his town read. Really weird.


Thanks for reminding me, I was gonna ask what your thoughts on Boston are as I don't recall you filtering him.

His filter's dreadful and the tone of his posts read like he feels hunted and the main reason I was doubting myself was because BTDT made that horrendous case against him. But since BTDT was town and Boston has not done anything to redeem himself then he is likely mafia.

I would have to reread though to see if there's any town motivation for the things he's done.


I don't see a lot of town motivation really especially for his votes, he clearly states town read but never questions the other person who claimed. Seems like it was a run away train for grack lynch and he just hopped on for easy lynch without calling himself out at that point since btdt was next up anyway.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 12 2017 00:12 GMT
#1327
On January 12 2017 09:08 reps)squishy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2017 08:47 Damdred wrote:
Also squishy is that all really alignment indicative? Sheeping isn't necessarily just something mafia or town does right?

It is NAI on its own. But if you connect the dots that he does not lead or push his own reads; it makes me feel weird. Since you are not seeing eye to eye with me it may just be my gut telling me then. But I feel he is trying to fly below the radar, and be another number in these townie lynches, rather than make his own arguments and risk being questioned.


I'm nto sure, sheeping isn't necessarily a scummy trait or following someone you think is town.

What do you think about his postings during hte night so far? Don't see any town indicators in it?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 12 2017 00:15 GMT
#1329
On January 12 2017 09:09 ika42 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2017 09:07 Calix wrote:
On January 12 2017 09:06 Damdred wrote:
On January 11 2017 10:08 SilverWolf77 wrote:
What do people say to Calix, darthfoley, Onegu scumteam?



If you mean this. I am not sure tbh, why leave the vig alive in what is 100% mylo at this point?


This is a good point.


you of all people should know this one calix...


What about why Vivax was killed then? You have him coming around on darth, he thinks onegu is town and he wasn't really scum reading Calix I believe at that point?

Right now gut feels like silver was killed cause he was the most town read person atm in the game.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 12 2017 00:21 GMT
#1332
By oh its auto you mean onegu saying that right?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 12 2017 00:25 GMT
#1335
On January 12 2017 09:22 ika42 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2017 09:21 Damdred wrote:
By oh its auto you mean onegu saying that right?


yes


Yeah but it was auto and I mean he could do that as either alignment.

Honestly I think Vivax was killed for his squishy read currently (probably because we thought the same thing). And I don't know if I believe thats the 100% scum team here. Darth especially I think has been somewhat insightful this night. And his filter is actually rather big for what would be his second scum game i think.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 12 2017 00:26 GMT
#1336
On January 12 2017 09:21 reps)squishy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2017 09:12 Damdred wrote:
On January 12 2017 09:08 reps)squishy wrote:
On January 12 2017 08:47 Damdred wrote:
Also squishy is that all really alignment indicative? Sheeping isn't necessarily just something mafia or town does right?

It is NAI on its own. But if you connect the dots that he does not lead or push his own reads; it makes me feel weird. Since you are not seeing eye to eye with me it may just be my gut telling me then. But I feel he is trying to fly below the radar, and be another number in these townie lynches, rather than make his own arguments and risk being questioned.


I'm nto sure, sheeping isn't necessarily a scummy trait or following someone you think is town.

What do you think about his postings during hte night so far? Don't see any town indicators in it?


I believe his night posts were NAI

Anyway although I think DF is scummy, Onegu is my main read and I think it is way worse letting him go under the radar so
##Vote: Onegu


Would you really want to risk the game killing onegu today and him being town? Like I understand frustration with someone not really playing that much. But i'm not sure if him not necessarily playing in this situation is super indicative.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 12 2017 00:27 GMT
#1337
For the record currently I am voting B0ston I think he needs a bit of attention and how he acted aroudn the grack lynch and the game in general is indicative of scum.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 12 2017 00:34 GMT
#1343
I'll be bak soon my head is hurting a bit
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 12 2017 03:00 GMT
#1413
I just think that calix is town here and i'm unsure what to make of whats goign to happen today. Like I don't think anyone is going to cc Kmatt and I probably wouldn't believe Boston at this point since hes the only one who hasn't been in thread today. I am going to sleep early and shoudl be back to actually scum hunt. But looking at the vote count makes me feel a bit strange, like squish has to be scum if boston is scum and that would be a weird mylo at the end. anyway be back
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 12 2017 16:31 GMT
#1422
On January 12 2017 18:52 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2017 12:00 Damdred wrote:
I just think that calix is town here and i'm unsure what to make of whats goign to happen today. Like I don't think anyone is going to cc Kmatt and I probably wouldn't believe Boston at this point since hes the only one who hasn't been in thread today. I am going to sleep early and shoudl be back to actually scum hunt. But looking at the vote count makes me feel a bit strange, like squish has to be scum if boston is scum and that would be a weird mylo at the end. anyway be back


Does it feel weird because Boston is the leading wagon? Because I was thinking about whether that was AI and I came back empty-handed.

If he's town then it's pretty simple, the scum are happily letting him get MLed.

If he's scum then it gets messy. For starters, we have only lynched among the counter-claimers so there's little to be gleaned from VCA on both days. So you can't infer whether the Boston wagon progression on D1 means a lot since that was the only time that he was at risk of being lynched and you can't see if anyone was making an effort to subtly deflect off Boston the following days.

Also hard to tell much from the votes since the main suspect is MIA, the other suspect is voting for the guy he's been scum-reading for the past few cycles and everyone else agrees that both of them are scummy. If those two are on a team (which is possible interactions-wise) then there isn't going to be a lot of resistance to them dying since the third guy is more likely to bus hard and try to stick it out in a 4v2/ 3v1 than risk going down on a sinking ship.

In short, there's not enough information to know what the situation is.

Did Boston even turn up during the night phase?


Like right now i'm not super sold on Onegu or kmatt being super lock town. So yeah i'm going to be a little meh, which if ika is town (which I think so at least) we need to convince him that going elsewhere is a horrible way to play mylo.

You know D1 lynch was interesting though because everyone jumped on grack but nobody even really looked at btdt like i really want to look at that vote real fast before i say why its interesting. Ill be back.

But i still think boston is the best lynch so far.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 12 2017 16:39 GMT
#1423
Like I love hedging btw, i think its one of my great flaws in a mafia game.

I have this long spill about why Kmatt could be scum fake claiming, but the simplest answer is hes a newb that did a bad thing and now we are in this situation.

Which btw would take an extraordinary amount of balls to pull off the play Kmatt did. To claim a shot on vivax when he could get cc by another vig or a cop. (If boston is the cop here i'm really dissapointed he didn't claim d2 with a check and basically a red check on kmatt). Which basically means that Kmatt is confirmed at this point and we really shouldn't even think about CC in this situation as they really do not matter overall.

Kmatt play doesn't make total sense but town is more likely to make calculated gambles/mistakes on weird reasoning than scum who likes to have things just so and neat.

So yeah
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 12 2017 16:47 GMT
#1425
On January 12 2017 17:24 ika42 wrote:
I don't see much of a reason to overall.

I mean from your and my pov we know there must be one scum in the dam/calix/1g grouping

So I'm weary of just voting there outright to begin with. Will I prob
Vote it in the end? Yes

I just don't have much motivation right now


I'm not so sure if there is one scum in that grouping at all though. The fight between you and calix just screams t v t right now, both of you are a bit BM to an extent. And honestly what do you think about B0ston that hes town? You would have to believe that if you 100% go with the list that was left.

But why when there is actually good evidence to the contrary you are sort of ignoring at this juncture?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 12 2017 16:49 GMT
#1426
On January 13 2017 01:45 darthfoley wrote:
lol there's no way Kmatt is scum fake claiming vigi because the real vig or the cop would have come out by now and we would have a somewhat easy cc battle

It's pointless to talk about him tbh


Eh not to pointless to talk out my thoughts in thread tbh, if i was the cop (which i'm not) I would of 100% waited for my second check to reveal adn basically have a solved game. ME sort of would of messed that plan up though.

In any case i don't think Kmatt would do such a risky play, hes just a bit underwhelming i suppose and if he did fake claim he did really good at it, especially claiming rb today i suppose.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 12 2017 16:57 GMT
#1429
Well lets say B0Ston flips scum who else do you think DF?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 12 2017 17:00 GMT
#1433
On January 13 2017 01:59 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2017 01:39 Damdred wrote:
Like I love hedging btw, i think its one of my great flaws in a mafia game.

I have this long spill about why Kmatt could be scum fake claiming, but the simplest answer is hes a newb that did a bad thing and now we are in this situation.

Which btw would take an extraordinary amount of balls to pull off the play Kmatt did. To claim a shot on vivax when he could get cc by another vig or a cop. (If boston is the cop here i'm really dissapointed he didn't claim d2 with a check and basically a red check on kmatt). Which basically means that Kmatt is confirmed at this point and we really shouldn't even think about CC in this situation as they really do not matter overall.

Kmatt play doesn't make total sense but town is more likely to make calculated gambles/mistakes on weird reasoning than scum who likes to have things just so and neat.

So yeah



What bad thing? The claim or the shot?


I think the shot was bad, the claim wasn't to bad it came within decent time and was reasonable besides the shot.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 12 2017 17:07 GMT
#1434
Basically i'm in a spot where I have one to many town reads

B0ston I think is obvious, Squishy is the second I think.

The problem comes in on the third

Ika, Calix, Onegu, DF

I've excluded myself and Kmatt as I won't think about lynching either ^_-.

I think Onegu is the lynch of choice for mafia here unless some mega bussing is going on which probably just makes him town and mafia thought was an easy hit.

Ika kind of looks the weirdest just locking into the list and fighting iwth his scum read instead of trying to really convince the thread.

DF makes some decent posts and has good activity.

The problem lies all three of these people (calix, df and ika) have really good activity. The thing about Ika here is that not really wanting to switch to B0ston and the weird post about one scum inbetween onegu/Damdred/Calix when just before was thinking the scum team was exactly Calix/Onegu/DF I believe.

The more I think about it the more I don't like it, but first B0ston.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 12 2017 17:28 GMT
#1440
I'm here now! just playing with my puppy mwhaha i'll be in and out for a bit though.

it makes onegu town. So that leave (to you) 3 of the most active people in the game as the last scum besides squishy what do you think about the ika stuff?
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