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ika42
Profile Joined January 2017
260 Posts
January 07 2017 19:25 GMT
#521
On January 08 2017 04:13 Calix wrote:


If you have a legit problem then take it to PMs instead of talking about it in the game thread of a different game.



ika42
Profile Joined January 2017
260 Posts
January 07 2017 19:26 GMT
#522
ty. post came afetr

BTDT could you give a overall read list once you catch up?
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
January 07 2017 19:27 GMT
#523
On January 08 2017 04:26 ika42 wrote:
ty. post came afetr

BTDT could you give a overall read list once you catch up?

Ya sure
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
January 07 2017 19:28 GMT
#524
On January 08 2017 04:10 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2017 04:06 Calix wrote:
On January 08 2017 04:02 Vivax wrote:
Been tempted a few times to put the thought out there that we might be dealing with an active, disruptive mafia (Calix), but then that thought shouldn't be pursued too early, especially by me or I end up tinfoiling the entire game.
So it's a thought on hold maybe I'll find something positive to take from her posts at some point. For now she doesn't look sheepable to me.

I think for today I would be content with a PL on ME, otherwise I still have my eyes on Kelsier and DF mostly as I might have been onto something at the start of the day, but today I feel like shit and am lazy to go dig for something and make a case, to be completely honest.


What makes you think that?

It would be good if you could expand on your reads at some point.


Kelsier for not seeming to care at this point and his negative comment about the game at the beginning. It's the sort of thing I saw Palmar going after people for and successfully catching mafia with it. So I think it could be a nice heuristic for catching mafia.

Foley for what I posted about him. Doesn't need expanding as it's in my filter.

As for you, I said I don't want to pursue that thought for now as you are still one of the most active players if not the most active player.


Well I'm glad you haven't bothered to reread my filter or rethink your opinion of me after latching into my first gut read. Real town motivation there.

I think your re entry to the thread after getting pressure then deflecting/disappearing is scummy. Except you agree with me on KSC. Hmmm
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
January 07 2017 19:29 GMT
#525
On January 06 2017 09:02 KelsierSC wrote:
yeeeehhhhhhh booooiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

ksc most likely town for this.

he hates playing scum afaik.
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
January 07 2017 19:31 GMT
#526
On January 06 2017 09:25 ika42 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2017 09:06 Kmatt wrote:
On January 06 2017 09:00 Onegu wrote:
VT claim


Could you not


lets act like ive never played mafia for a min: why? and i dont want to hear the "oh it narrows PR" crap (yes this is a vaild reason but anyone will argue this). Yes it is sub optimal in general but why are you opposed to it?

...

Why would you advocate bad play?
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
January 07 2017 19:31 GMT
#527
On January 08 2017 04:22 ika42 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2017 04:14 Grackaroni wrote:
On January 08 2017 04:07 ika42 wrote:
On January 08 2017 03:59 Grackaroni wrote:
On January 08 2017 03:45 Calix wrote:
Given the mass inactivity, trying to use the bigger picture is a very bad idea that's going to lead to faulty conclusions.

That wasn't really my point. I'm concerned with how much of a circle jerk the thread is when there's a good chance that Swika is wrong on a lot of things. It's hard for me to pick out scum from sheep if everyone's opinion follows their sentiment.



Why are you not trying to convince us we are wrong then? Why are you not trying to move the game state forward and try to convince others?

Could you not? Thanks.


Not what? Show that your complaining about a game state and how you are basically admitting to not doing anything to fix the suppose problem?

Now you're just being antagonizing.
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
January 07 2017 19:34 GMT
#528
On January 06 2017 09:36 SilverWolf77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2017 09:25 ika42 wrote:

now onto something i want everyone to answer

are you town?
how long have you played mafia?
do you play elsewhere and if so where?
What is your typical play style?
how do you scumhunt/townhunt?
do you know anyone here that you can read very well?


-yes

-off and on about 2 years

-I have played a couple at Mafia Universe and a few at SC2

-It depends on the gamestate, my role, etc.

-I like to look for motivation in posts and I also check for a few other things I'd like to keep to myself for now, I do both townhunt and scumhunt in most games

-I know Calix from SC2, she's a good player but I've only played in like 2-3 games so I can't say I can read her well, I know ika very well and am usually accurate in reading him when he's town, if he's scum it might take me a little longer to figure him out

What's townhunt
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
January 07 2017 19:35 GMT
#529
On January 06 2017 09:39 Grackaroni wrote:
I'll answer the questions.

1) I'm always town.
2) 5 years
3) no
4) spammy
5) We'll have to find out.
6) Probably Calix.

Answer to 5) is really interesting here. If you choose to answer those questions, I think you could as well be honest about year meta. Because if you play to your alignment meta, it's really easy to identify if you are the opposite alignment (wow my wording is poor) so I'm wondering why Grack is not revealing what his meta is?
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
January 07 2017 19:35 GMT
#530
On January 08 2017 04:34 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2017 09:36 SilverWolf77 wrote:
On January 06 2017 09:25 ika42 wrote:

now onto something i want everyone to answer

are you town?
how long have you played mafia?
do you play elsewhere and if so where?
What is your typical play style?
how do you scumhunt/townhunt?
do you know anyone here that you can read very well?


-yes

-off and on about 2 years

-I have played a couple at Mafia Universe and a few at SC2

-It depends on the gamestate, my role, etc.

-I like to look for motivation in posts and I also check for a few other things I'd like to keep to myself for now, I do both townhunt and scumhunt in most games

-I know Calix from SC2, she's a good player but I've only played in like 2-3 games so I can't say I can read her well, I know ika very well and am usually accurate in reading him when he's town, if he's scum it might take me a little longer to figure him out

What's townhunt


Looking for townies as opposed to scum, typically for POE.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
January 07 2017 19:36 GMT
#531
On January 08 2017 04:29 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2017 09:02 KelsierSC wrote:
yeeeehhhhhhh booooiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

ksc most likely town for this.

he hates playing scum afaik.


That's a bad read and you should know that
ika42
Profile Joined January 2017
260 Posts
January 07 2017 19:37 GMT
#532
On January 08 2017 04:31 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2017 09:25 ika42 wrote:
On January 06 2017 09:06 Kmatt wrote:
On January 06 2017 09:00 Onegu wrote:
VT claim


Could you not


lets act like ive never played mafia for a min: why? and i dont want to hear the "oh it narrows PR" crap (yes this is a vaild reason but anyone will argue this). Yes it is sub optimal in general but why are you opposed to it?

...

Why would you advocate bad play?


I dont, I just find it that using that reason alone is the most obvious on why not to do it.

I wanted more then just the generic one
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
January 07 2017 19:37 GMT
#533
Yeah I feel like Kelsier is town.

also I think Grackaroni is scum.
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
January 07 2017 19:38 GMT
#534
On January 08 2017 04:37 ika42 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2017 04:31 beentheredonethat wrote:
On January 06 2017 09:25 ika42 wrote:
On January 06 2017 09:06 Kmatt wrote:
On January 06 2017 09:00 Onegu wrote:
VT claim


Could you not


lets act like ive never played mafia for a min: why? and i dont want to hear the "oh it narrows PR" crap (yes this is a vaild reason but anyone will argue this). Yes it is sub optimal in general but why are you opposed to it?

...

Why would you advocate bad play?


I dont, I just find it that using that reason alone is the most obvious on why not to do it.

I wanted more then just the generic one

But if there is a reason to not do something as town, then why do you do it?
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
January 07 2017 19:38 GMT
#535
On January 08 2017 04:36 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2017 04:29 beentheredonethat wrote:
On January 06 2017 09:02 KelsierSC wrote:
yeeeehhhhhhh booooiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

ksc most likely town for this.

he hates playing scum afaik.


That's a bad read and you should know that


Is this implying a scum-read?

Also when are you going to respond to my post? I just figured you had fucked off.
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
January 07 2017 19:39 GMT
#536
On January 08 2017 04:36 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2017 04:29 beentheredonethat wrote:
On January 06 2017 09:02 KelsierSC wrote:
yeeeehhhhhhh booooiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

ksc most likely town for this.

he hates playing scum afaik.


That's a bad read and you should know that

Explain it to me then? Maybe I should not apply meta reads with people I haven't played with
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
ika42
Profile Joined January 2017
260 Posts
January 07 2017 19:39 GMT
#537
On January 08 2017 04:31 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2017 04:22 ika42 wrote:
On January 08 2017 04:14 Grackaroni wrote:
On January 08 2017 04:07 ika42 wrote:
On January 08 2017 03:59 Grackaroni wrote:
On January 08 2017 03:45 Calix wrote:
Given the mass inactivity, trying to use the bigger picture is a very bad idea that's going to lead to faulty conclusions.

That wasn't really my point. I'm concerned with how much of a circle jerk the thread is when there's a good chance that Swika is wrong on a lot of things. It's hard for me to pick out scum from sheep if everyone's opinion follows their sentiment.



Why are you not trying to convince us we are wrong then? Why are you not trying to move the game state forward and try to convince others?

Could you not? Thanks.


Not what? Show that your complaining about a game state and how you are basically admitting to not doing anything to fix the suppose problem?

Now you're just being antagonizing.


If i wanted to be antagonizing i would bring back up burden of proof.

You are complaining that me/SW are running the show and nobody doing anything. I am asking you what have you done or are going to do to fix that? If you dont have an answer i would think its just scum trying to do something for the sake of something.
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
January 07 2017 19:41 GMT
#538
On January 06 2017 14:13 Vivax wrote:
Is there anyone here who actually didn't play mafia before, or just very very little?

Show nested quote +
On January 06 2017 11:31 darthfoley wrote:
On January 06 2017 10:43 Calix wrote:
I sense I'll have an aneurysm at this rate.

DF, you seem sensible. What else have you noticed so far?


I actually feel weird about ika. Asked the kinda useless questionnaire and has basically been bs'ing a bit since. Not a real read but I find his opening a little off


This read looks forced. I mean, you will say it isn't a read I know, but we both know it kind of is. And to me it just looks like you were looking for someone to make look guilty easily to fulfill Calix demand.

Fend yourself, Foley.

This is really weird. Why do you ask the first question?

Then you say "bla looks forced" with a complicated reasoning which feels rather constructed? Also I think basically the same that darthfoley said about ikea so I don't think it's forced.
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
January 07 2017 19:41 GMT
#539
Vivax who are your scumreads even because from your filter, I can't clearly deduce any.
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
ika42
Profile Joined January 2017
260 Posts
January 07 2017 19:42 GMT
#540
On January 08 2017 04:38 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2017 04:37 ika42 wrote:
On January 08 2017 04:31 beentheredonethat wrote:
On January 06 2017 09:25 ika42 wrote:
On January 06 2017 09:06 Kmatt wrote:
On January 06 2017 09:00 Onegu wrote:
VT claim


Could you not


lets act like ive never played mafia for a min: why? and i dont want to hear the "oh it narrows PR" crap (yes this is a vaild reason but anyone will argue this). Yes it is sub optimal in general but why are you opposed to it?

...

Why would you advocate bad play?


I dont, I just find it that using that reason alone is the most obvious on why not to do it.

I wanted more then just the generic one

But if there is a reason to not do something as town, then why do you do it?


I don't? The thing i was talking about is the claim right off the bat. When i first started out (about 4-5 years ago) it was what i would do cus i didn't give a damn. Now i would complain about someone doing it out of the gate. But not becasue "it narrows PR"

Its more on the fact that it breeds out bad play in geenral and turns a site meta to shit and will almost always end up having day 1 be a debate about what is good and what is bad
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