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On January 11 2017 05:45 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2017 05:42 MichaelEhrmantraut wrote:On January 11 2017 05:29 Calix wrote:
ME's post also does not make a great deal of sense. I'll admit to only skimming that one but any 'case' with that many quotes needed is going to be mediocre at best.
Also for the love of Christ, can people please spoiler the text walls if you're gonna respond to them? Ok. On January 11 2017 05:34 Calix wrote:
This is actually readable, thank God.
Talking about people mentioning RL/ activity reasons/ etc is NOT something that should be used to determine someone's alignment. It really gets on my nerves when people speculate whether someone is lying about their RL issues because all that does is piss off the suspect in question and it does NOTHING.
Re: the actual read here, how do those posts 'try to look useful'?
I don't see an apology there so I do not understand your jump to your last line, nor do I see how any of this is AI. ok, noted, but I don't think people should keep mentioning RL activity. What do you mean by you don't see an apology there ? "If you are contributing for quality over quantity, would you not already point out holes in ika's argument rather than come up with an apology." Where is the apology you refer to? There isn't one in the quote you referenced when you wrote that line.
Do you actually have to say 'Sorry' for it to count as an apology. Look at the tone of his posts earlier, now suddenly he goes on to say that, I'll re-read, if he wants to contribute with quality over quantity ( which frankly should be everyone's goal ), shouldn't he already be on top of that post. He doesn't throw shade at it later, doesn't explain why he changed his opinion, when he had questioned it earlier.
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On January 11 2017 05:53 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2017 05:49 MichaelEhrmantraut wrote:On January 11 2017 05:45 Calix wrote:On January 11 2017 05:42 MichaelEhrmantraut wrote:On January 11 2017 05:29 Calix wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
ME's post also does not make a great deal of sense. I'll admit to only skimming that one but any 'case' with that many quotes needed is going to be mediocre at best.
Also for the love of Christ, can people please spoiler the text walls if you're gonna respond to them?
Ok. On January 11 2017 05:34 Calix wrote:
This is actually readable, thank God.
Talking about people mentioning RL/ activity reasons/ etc is NOT something that should be used to determine someone's alignment. It really gets on my nerves when people speculate whether someone is lying about their RL issues because all that does is piss off the suspect in question and it does NOTHING.
Re: the actual read here, how do those posts 'try to look useful'?
I don't see an apology there so I do not understand your jump to your last line, nor do I see how any of this is AI. ok, noted, but I don't think people should keep mentioning RL activity. What do you mean by you don't see an apology there ? "If you are contributing for quality over quantity, would you not already point out holes in ika's argument rather than come up with an apology." Where is the apology you refer to? There isn't one in the quote you referenced when you wrote that line. Do you actually have to say 'Sorry' for it to count as an apology. Look at the tone of his posts earlier, now suddenly he goes on to say that, I'll re-read, if he wants to contribute with quality over quantity ( which frankly should be everyone's goal ), shouldn't he already be on top of that post. He doesn't throw shade at it later, doesn't explain why he changed his opinion, when he had questioned it earlier. Uh, yes? I have no idea what the rest of this says and I've probably lost brain cells trying to comprehend this.
What can you not understand, here I'll fucking BULLET IT FOR YOU :
1. reps squishy is SCUM
2. reps squishy said : I value quality not quantity
3. reps squishy questions ika's read on Silverwolf77, ika says SW is town.
4. ika says did you read my arguments
5. reps says ' yes, but i'll have to re-read them'
6. why does reps have to re-read them when his earlier stated philosophy is : ' quality over quantity'
7. why is he not on top of ika, questioning his arguments
8. why does he not say why he changed his opinion on ika's read whne he questioned him earlier
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On January 11 2017 06:24 SilverWolf77 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On January 11 2017 06:19 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2017 06:12 SilverWolf77 wrote:On January 11 2017 06:00 Calix wrote:On January 11 2017 05:56 darthfoley wrote:On January 11 2017 05:55 Calix wrote:
I can literally feel a headache coming on from trying to understand what half of these posts the past two pages are even saying. What do you make of SW's response to btdt, considering my post ^ I found it hard to read but when I actually look at the contents of the entire post, you're right. It's an awful lot of words for a defense which isn't needed and most of the defense is not even that good. I didn't find any of the points compelling is what I mean there. Why do you think the defense isn't needed? If you feel this way, why didn't you ask me about it or comment on it until darthfoley brought it up? I've never seen you have trouble reading posts or understanding them before. This seems really odd for you. Not so much the actual having a defense as it is the timing and level of effort put into it as the case was poor and BTDT has not flipped yet so you don't know whether you wasted time on responding in that much depth (if he's mafia and you're town) when you could have acknowledged it in a few sentences. I didn't pay it much attention because I was focusing on the more questionable players who were posting. It's not odd for me to have trouble comprehending multitudes of bad arguments and I'm having a hard time having it all sink in. I'll have to reread them later when I'm not in the fray. Fair enough. I do like the way you are questioning ME on his case on ika. It's really bad and I think he's struggling to make it make sense or be logical.
Why are you so focused on ika ? She's questioning my case on reps, not on ika. She didn't even question my case on ika, she dismissed it almost immediately.
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What ninja vote ? I didn't want to vote Grack and I voted Grack, I am not repeating my mistake. I vote for somebody who's high on my scum list. I am not going to give all of my scum reads. When I give one, people interact and give me more information. And the ninja-vote thing was brought up by Onegu who said people will look at it as a ninja vote and then go on you, and here we have someone do exactly that.
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On January 11 2017 09:28 B0stonSC wrote:
I'm with SW on this one. Maybe ME should be the next on our list? He sure is high on mine.
Oh, you come in and now you go on me with SW ? You just said that SW and ika are playing us, like if that's your first thought, then probably you should hold this one.
On January 11 2017 09:22 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2017 09:17 MichaelEhrmantraut wrote:
What ninja vote ? I didn't want to vote Grack and I voted Grack, I am not repeating my mistake. I vote for somebody who's high on my scum list. I am not going to give all of my scum reads. When I give one, people interact and give me more information. And the ninja-vote thing was brought up by Onegu who said people will look at it as a ninja vote and then go on you, and here we have someone do exactly that. "People" will call a spade a spade? Shocking. Uh, you voted for someone off the BTDT wagon without explaining why you scum-read that person at all which contradicts your "not giving away scum-reads" idea (even though there's no actual purpose to hiding reads in a normal save). Explain pls.
It doesn't, I said I am not giving all my scum reads at the same time, so I post a few of my scum reads then I see how SW is reacting in the thread, not just to my reads, so can't I change my read of her. Is that a crime now ?
On January 11 2017 09:23 SilverWolf77 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2017 09:17 MichaelEhrmantraut wrote:
What ninja vote ? I didn't want to vote Grack and I voted Grack, I am not repeating my mistake. I vote for somebody who's high on my scum list. I am not going to give all of my scum reads. When I give one, people interact and give me more information. And the ninja-vote thing was brought up by Onegu who said people will look at it as a ninja vote and then go on you, and here we have someone do exactly that. You went on and on about ika and Reps and never mentioned me. I come out with a case on you and bam you vote me in the voting thread without saying anything about it here. If you aren't scum then I don't know what to think of this damn game anymore.
You hadn't come out with a case on me until then, just quote it here if you had. All you are saying is ' cannot make a watertight scum read' , 'arguments are weak against ika and reps'. I don't see any case against me. Oh, yeah please lynch me.
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On January 12 2017 02:33 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2017 02:27 Calix wrote:On January 12 2017 02:19 Damdred wrote:On January 12 2017 02:17 Calix wrote:
I'm here but not feeling very well. Tried to filter-dive earlier but nothing will sink in -.- Hi calix, what do you think of squishy just as a knee jerk? or what I posted about him etc? (i've sort of missed you btw) Thanks, I didn't totally hate playing with you in the past either <3 I don't agree with most of your squishy reasons because they could be explained by him being new/ not knowing how people play here. Using strange logic is NAI, questioning why someone votes for a scum-read is NAI and I don't think his Onegu read by itself means a lot. Your point about him following thread sentiment is something I think holds true but you buried that among a lot of fluff points. I would like to hear your ME bad-town reason because he's one of my stronger scum-reads atm. His posts don't have a clear thought process and he admits to wanting to hide information with his vote which I don't see town motive for at all and nobody has given one. Can you explain your jump from Onegu maybe scum to Onegu prolly town? I don't have strong feelings on him - he just pops in, fires out some posts and then fucks off again and none of those posts have strong town or scum motivations imo. Yeah its a bit fluffy tbh, his grack vote though is bad vivax saw it first so i wont' claim the idea. I think hes a decent scum lean though. As for ME its so horrible, he asked the host in thread if people who die do the thread know who killed them etc. Its horrible reasoning but if he was scum he would just ask in his qt instead of hte thread more than likely or his scum coach would tel him. Totally horrible reasoning though, besides that he has a few scum signals though I remembered something about onegu, the more useful onegu is early in the game the more likely he is scum really. Its difficult to pinpoint his alignment though later in the game hes easier to read if you can get him to put work in. But its more a gut feeling with how hes approaching the game and not really caring.
Umm why can't I ask the host something in thread if its not clarified in the rules ? Get lost, when I hold activity and dumb posts, against people, like ' OH I AM IN THE HOSTPIAL ' , ' OH NOW I AM TITLED NOW ' ' OH NOW I AM GETTING SCREWED OVER BY MY CAR', I get called out for it, but when I ask questions when the rules are unclear, you want to go on about it. This looks so scummy to me.
Do all Mafia have to agree on a kill to make the kill pass ? Thank you.
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On January 12 2017 07:38 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2017 07:33 MichaelEhrmantraut wrote:On January 12 2017 02:33 Damdred wrote:On January 12 2017 02:27 Calix wrote:On January 12 2017 02:19 Damdred wrote:On January 12 2017 02:17 Calix wrote:
I'm here but not feeling very well. Tried to filter-dive earlier but nothing will sink in -.- Hi calix, what do you think of squishy just as a knee jerk? or what I posted about him etc? (i've sort of missed you btw) Thanks, I didn't totally hate playing with you in the past either <3 I don't agree with most of your squishy reasons because they could be explained by him being new/ not knowing how people play here. Using strange logic is NAI, questioning why someone votes for a scum-read is NAI and I don't think his Onegu read by itself means a lot. Your point about him following thread sentiment is something I think holds true but you buried that among a lot of fluff points. I would like to hear your ME bad-town reason because he's one of my stronger scum-reads atm. His posts don't have a clear thought process and he admits to wanting to hide information with his vote which I don't see town motive for at all and nobody has given one. Can you explain your jump from Onegu maybe scum to Onegu prolly town? I don't have strong feelings on him - he just pops in, fires out some posts and then fucks off again and none of those posts have strong town or scum motivations imo. Yeah its a bit fluffy tbh, his grack vote though is bad vivax saw it first so i wont' claim the idea. I think hes a decent scum lean though. As for ME its so horrible, he asked the host in thread if people who die do the thread know who killed them etc. Its horrible reasoning but if he was scum he would just ask in his qt instead of hte thread more than likely or his scum coach would tel him. Totally horrible reasoning though, besides that he has a few scum signals though I remembered something about onegu, the more useful onegu is early in the game the more likely he is scum really. Its difficult to pinpoint his alignment though later in the game hes easier to read if you can get him to put work in. But its more a gut feeling with how hes approaching the game and not really caring. Umm why can't I ask the host something in thread if its not clarified in the rules ? Get lost, when I hold activity and dumb posts, against people, like ' OH I AM IN THE HOSTPIAL ' , ' OH NOW I AM TITLED NOW ' ' OH NOW I AM GETTING SCREWED OVER BY MY CAR', I get called out for it, but when I ask questions when the rules are unclear, you want to go on about it. This looks so scummy to me. Do all Mafia have to agree on a kill to make the kill pass ? Thank you. This is one of the reasons why questions generally aren't allowed in the thread to a mod and why you should communicate privately. And generally speaking a kill is agreed upon by a team but sometimes a "head" mafia person just selects the kill as in the dominant player just picks it. Someone suggest it and everyone goes hey bro ok. In any sense basically you asking certain questions to the host in thread gives the sense of you not having information the mafia would have. And literally i'm sitting here going man its shitty but it probably makes him town and you say thats scummy? Lol
What do you mean they are not allowed ? Did you read the rules ? It specifically says they are allowed. Can someone get me out of this game. PLEASE.
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Please modkill me, I am tired of this game. I don't know why you allowed two people who are living together in this game, Its tilting me and has resulted in a large bias. I cannot play this game anymore. I didn't read the thread, or I would've withdrawn earlier.
I can't play this game when two people who share the same house are playing the game. Plus they are circle-jerking each other for most of the game and half of their posts are of the same tone, 'ooh i am ill' 'ooh i am in the fucking hospital' 'ooh i am tilted'. Its annoying to me, its almost like they are making excuses all the time for screwing up somewhere in their posts, and at this point I think all my posts are going to be in the same tone until the end of this game. This has been a very annoying experience for me. I am happy with whatever ban you want to hand me.
And this new guy, damn him, if he's going to question my asking questions in a newbie game, or draw any conclusions from it. I am not playing after this post.
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