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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 11 2016 14:33 GMT
#9
/in
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 19 2016 08:36 GMT
#68
##Vote: Alakaslam

Best plynch. Also most mafia entry.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 19 2016 10:15 GMT
#71
It's a plynch 99%. Don't worry about the 1% because it is bad.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 19 2016 10:43 GMT
#73
On December 19 2016 19:35 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2016 19:15 Koshi wrote:
It's a plynch 99%. Don't worry about the 1% because it is bad.

Not a girlmore girls fan I guess? :p

Gossip girl?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 19 2016 12:13 GMT
#80
On December 19 2016 19:45 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2016 19:43 Koshi wrote:
On December 19 2016 19:35 disformation wrote:
On December 19 2016 19:15 Koshi wrote:
It's a plynch 99%. Don't worry about the 1% because it is bad.

Not a girlmore girls fan I guess? :p

Gossip girl?

was referring to the video slam posted :p

ahhh I can't see that @ work. Well... I can but then I got to press the "this is for work button" which I don't press first thing in the morning on a youtube video.


I thought it had something to do with 1% and 99%. Already found it odd.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 19 2016 12:17 GMT
#81
I was wrong. Alakaslam tried to connect with the thread with his question. It is not that mafia after all.

The person who didn't tried to do anything should be the plynch.

##unvote
##vote Kmatt
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 19 2016 12:19 GMT
#82
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 19 2016 16:15 GMT
#111
On December 20 2016 00:42 ExO_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2016 00:40 Kmatt wrote:
On December 20 2016 00:36 ExO_ wrote:
On December 20 2016 00:31 Kmatt wrote:
On December 20 2016 00:27 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 20 2016 00:22 Kmatt wrote:
On December 20 2016 00:21 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 20 2016 00:15 Kmatt wrote:
On December 20 2016 00:06 sicklucker wrote:
kill lightning strike. via night kill preferably


Wait what? Are you just sarcastically scumbaiting or do we not like LS? If you're asking for a night kill aren't you assuming he's town? Or is it that you think he's a bad town and will get himself lynched if left alive?

What your opinion on this Kmatt? Do you think think he was being sarcastic about me or do you think he scumslipped this early or what?


My assumption is that he thinks you're a bad town and wants you gone before you waste a lynch vote.

Honestly if I was a bad town I surprised he would night kill me when he's scum because it would mean he thinks I was a threat on finding his team.


I'm willing to bet that was sarcasm.

SL any input here? I'd rather not have to speak on your behalf when we're in this thread together.


"in this thread together"

I wish I had a buddy in the thread with me


That's a little too opportunistic/innocuous of an entry without contributing to a discussion.

##vote ExO_


speaking of opportunistic voting

Nothing wrong with his vote.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 19 2016 16:17 GMT
#112
On December 20 2016 00:53 ExO_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2016 00:47 Kmatt wrote:
On December 20 2016 00:42 ExO_ wrote:
On December 20 2016 00:40 Kmatt wrote:
On December 20 2016 00:36 ExO_ wrote:
On December 20 2016 00:31 Kmatt wrote:
On December 20 2016 00:27 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 20 2016 00:22 Kmatt wrote:
On December 20 2016 00:21 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 20 2016 00:15 Kmatt wrote:
[quote]

Wait what? Are you just sarcastically scumbaiting or do we not like LS? If you're asking for a night kill aren't you assuming he's town? Or is it that you think he's a bad town and will get himself lynched if left alive?

What your opinion on this Kmatt? Do you think think he was being sarcastic about me or do you think he scumslipped this early or what?


My assumption is that he thinks you're a bad town and wants you gone before you waste a lynch vote.

Honestly if I was a bad town I surprised he would night kill me when he's scum because it would mean he thinks I was a threat on finding his team.


I'm willing to bet that was sarcasm.

SL any input here? I'd rather not have to speak on your behalf when we're in this thread together.


"in this thread together"

I wish I had a buddy in the thread with me


That's a little too opportunistic/innocuous of an entry without contributing to a discussion.

##vote ExO_


speaking of opportunistic voting


Your post was cherry-picking a reply as to not be inactive but still be out of sight for the last 12 hours. Mine is acknowledging low-hanging fruit. And you still aren't questioning/analyzing/posting reads so


Cherry-picking? Are you fucking kidding me?

I just woke up, haven't even rolled out of bed yet. Saying something about a buddy in a game with this few players is a bit interesting don't you think? I'd think no town player is so ready to befriend anybody else as you are with that post. Accusing me of posting to not appear inactive is completely ridiculous. I just got into the thread, just realized the game started.

Don't be so comvatitive. At least the guy is trying to do shit. If he does nothing it is worse for town. So him voting you and rustling your jimmies is propper play at this stage of the game.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 19 2016 16:23 GMT
#115
For some reason my officescan is going ham on tl. Something with ajax.googleapis. Annoying cuz now I have to use phone.


Anyway. Consider my vote off Kmatt and on Exo.

I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 19 2016 16:31 GMT
#118
On December 20 2016 01:23 LightningStrike wrote:
So Koshi what are your thoughts atm bro?

Everybody is potential mafia. I trust nobody. Yet, I am willing to work with people to flush out the mafias.

At this point I cannot lynch based on content and am limited to lynch on activity.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 19 2016 16:45 GMT
#125
On December 20 2016 01:34 ExO_ wrote:
so somehow koshi/kmatt are going to come into the thread, scum reading me for some stupid ass reason. kmatt ignores my comment about him buddying, as any scum would. and both koshi/kmatt ignore disinformation pseudo defending me. If I'm scummy, why isn't disinfo scummy too hmm koshi/kmatt?

It's not that I think you are scummier than random other person x. It is that you come in the thread with a rather ambitious read, that you dont explain your read causing confusion rather than pushing the game forward, that you then throw a little tantrum and leave the thread.

Free vote from me.


Also this little observation you made on disformation doesnt impress me at all. Especially the feeling I get behind it bothers me, as if you are throwing on the ground right before me a cookie and I should be happy... lol.

Play the game. Be happy. Lynch mafia with your townie friends.

I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 19 2016 16:47 GMT
#126
On December 20 2016 01:39 ExO_ wrote:
I'm fairly certain in past games Koshi has said something roughly along the lines of wasting inactive players is a waste of time, and we should focus on finding scum instead. Why is he so ready to lynch inactives now?

When there is content to discuss, sitting on your hands and lynching inactives is bad.

Is that what I am doing Exo? What am I doing Exo? Can you tell me what I am doing?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 19 2016 16:49 GMT
#127
Feels like you are playing a game against this thread Exo.

Kmatt buddying
Disinfo defending
Koshi also mafia?

It's weird
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 19 2016 16:56 GMT
#134
On December 20 2016 01:53 ExO_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2016 01:47 Koshi wrote:
On December 20 2016 01:39 ExO_ wrote:
I'm fairly certain in past games Koshi has said something roughly along the lines of wasting inactive players is a waste of time, and we should focus on finding scum instead. Why is he so ready to lynch inactives now?

When there is content to discuss, sitting on your hands and lynching inactives is bad.

Is that what I am doing Exo? What am I doing Exo? Can you tell me what I am doing?


You and evidently kmatt think that the first post I make into the thread, because it's literally one of the first things I noticed when I realized the game started is making a huge case. I posted one sentence, and suddenly thats a case against kmatt? If you want to talk about overreaction, that's a huge overreaction. He immediately omgus me. I was literally still in bed and it tilted me a bit.

And you hop on in support of him right away, and then suggestion we should vote off an inactive. You won't commit to voting me, but I don't see you discussing anything else right now

I am fully committing voting you. Just cba to do it on phone.

I can only do so much. You are top priority atm. Pls answer my questions truthfully. You are on thin ice.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 19 2016 16:57 GMT
#135
On December 20 2016 01:54 ExO_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2016 01:49 Koshi wrote:
Feels like you are playing a game against this thread Exo.

Kmatt buddying
Disinfo defending
Koshi also mafia?

It's weird


I don't think disinfo is scum, I'm saying you guys not finding him suspicious if you think I'm scum, is suspicious.

O rly? Can you explain why?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 19 2016 17:02 GMT
#139
On December 20 2016 01:59 ExO_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2016 01:57 Koshi wrote:
On December 20 2016 01:54 ExO_ wrote:
On December 20 2016 01:49 Koshi wrote:
Feels like you are playing a game against this thread Exo.

Kmatt buddying
Disinfo defending
Koshi also mafia?

It's weird


I don't think disinfo is scum, I'm saying you guys not finding him suspicious if you think I'm scum, is suspicious.

O rly? Can you explain why?


I don't have a fucking reason to think he's scum yet. Especially when kmatt is over here omgusing me at the first thing I say and you are defending him like crazy.

Do I already need to have a 5 page analysis on why I think every player is town? I'm not going to operate from the assumption that everyone is scum, that's fucking retarded. I'll scum read someone when I have a reason to think they are scum

You are focussing on the wrong part of that sentence.

[/b]I'm saying you guys not finding him suspicious if you think I'm scum, is suspicious.[/b]
Why?



Goddamn each refresh is a new red alert from my virusthingie.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 19 2016 17:45 GMT
#164
On December 20 2016 02:08 ExO_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2016 02:02 Koshi wrote:
On December 20 2016 01:59 ExO_ wrote:
On December 20 2016 01:57 Koshi wrote:
On December 20 2016 01:54 ExO_ wrote:
On December 20 2016 01:49 Koshi wrote:
Feels like you are playing a game against this thread Exo.

Kmatt buddying
Disinfo defending
Koshi also mafia?

It's weird


I don't think disinfo is scum, I'm saying you guys not finding him suspicious if you think I'm scum, is suspicious.

O rly? Can you explain why?


I don't have a fucking reason to think he's scum yet. Especially when kmatt is over here omgusing me at the first thing I say and you are defending him like crazy.

Do I already need to have a 5 page analysis on why I think every player is town? I'm not going to operate from the assumption that everyone is scum, that's fucking retarded. I'll scum read someone when I have a reason to think they are scum

You are focussing on the wrong part of that sentence.

I'm saying you guys not finding him suspicious if you think I'm scum, is suspicious.
Why?



Goddamn each refresh is a new red alert from my virusthingie.


If you think I'm a scum:

Kmatt comes into the thread and votes me. Disinfo basically brushes off the case saying I'm not a morning person and tries to redirect the conversation elsewhere. If you think I'm scum, why are you both ignoring disinfo doing this?

Either you (and kmatt) don't really think I'm scum, or are ignoring disinfo here for some reason I cannot fathom.

your turn

Why aren't you scum reading him if you think I'm scum?
[/b][/b]
I don't have strong feeling about anybody at all atm. I just poke around a bit.

Disformation his morning joke was because you were so angry for seemingly no reason. That was never ever an attempt to redirect pressure of you.


Ugh. I have such a difficult time understanding your thought process here. Not only did you think we were hard scumreading you, you also think we should have association read somebody else scummy for defending you. That is so farfetched...
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 19 2016 17:55 GMT
#176
On December 20 2016 02:47 ExO_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2016 02:45 Koshi wrote:
On December 20 2016 02:08 ExO_ wrote:
On December 20 2016 02:02 Koshi wrote:
On December 20 2016 01:59 ExO_ wrote:
On December 20 2016 01:57 Koshi wrote:
On December 20 2016 01:54 ExO_ wrote:
On December 20 2016 01:49 Koshi wrote:
Feels like you are playing a game against this thread Exo.

Kmatt buddying
Disinfo defending
Koshi also mafia?

It's weird


I don't think disinfo is scum, I'm saying you guys not finding him suspicious if you think I'm scum, is suspicious.

O rly? Can you explain why?


I don't have a fucking reason to think he's scum yet. Especially when kmatt is over here omgusing me at the first thing I say and you are defending him like crazy.

Do I already need to have a 5 page analysis on why I think every player is town? I'm not going to operate from the assumption that everyone is scum, that's fucking retarded. I'll scum read someone when I have a reason to think they are scum

You are focussing on the wrong part of that sentence.

I'm saying you guys not finding him suspicious if you think I'm scum, is suspicious.
Why?



Goddamn each refresh is a new red alert from my virusthingie.


If you think I'm a scum:

Kmatt comes into the thread and votes me. Disinfo basically brushes off the case saying I'm not a morning person and tries to redirect the conversation elsewhere. If you think I'm scum, why are you both ignoring disinfo doing this?

Either you (and kmatt) don't really think I'm scum, or are ignoring disinfo here for some reason I cannot fathom.

your turn

Why aren't you scum reading him if you think I'm scum?

I don't have strong feeling about anybody at all atm. I just poke around a bit.

Disformation his morning joke was because you were so angry for seemingly no reason. That was never ever an attempt to redirect pressure of you.


Ugh. I have such a difficult time understanding your thought process here. Not only did you think we were hard scumreading you, you also think we should have association read somebody else scummy for defending you. That is so farfetched...


He voted me, and you said you were going to vote me.

I'll be sure to take that as town-leaning scum reads, instead of actual scum reads, in the future.

Because I said I would and am home now.
##unvote
##vote Exo


Yes I was voting people to get the ball rolling and if the ball didn't roll I would still be ok with my vote.
HF was correct, I voted you because you came in with the wrong emotions and I wanted to pressure you to see if you were mafia. I will have to reread the last 2-4 pages to see what you exactly replied and reconsider if you are really mafia.

You came in aggressive and I used that against you to see if I could get an easy townread. I don't think that happened but like I said. Need to reread.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 19 2016 18:01 GMT
#179
On December 20 2016 02:41 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2016 02:35 Kmatt wrote:
Actually HFs bit about mafia skating by makes sense. Still standing by that Exo is scummy.

yeah, it is the first actual/decent point HF has made on me. :D

Because the Exo wagon is not the cool kids wagon anymore I am voting this guy.

##unvote
##vote disformation


I don't think he replied to HF his point when he made it initially. Replying here is a bit off maybe.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 19 2016 18:04 GMT
#181
disfo your filter looks horrible.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 19 2016 18:08 GMT
#184
On December 20 2016 03:05 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2016 03:01 Koshi wrote:
On December 20 2016 02:41 disformation wrote:
On December 20 2016 02:35 Kmatt wrote:
Actually HFs bit about mafia skating by makes sense. Still standing by that Exo is scummy.

yeah, it is the first actual/decent point HF has made on me. :D

Because the Exo wagon is not the cool kids wagon anymore I am voting this guy.

##unvote
##vote disformation


I don't think he replied to HF his point when he made it initially. Replying here is a bit off maybe.

huh? his intial reasons to SR meh were super meh and he just posted the newer/decent ones, when Kmatt replied to it.

if its you and HF, can you guys kill me n1 again? :D

:D

+ Show Spoiler +
completely not funny though. 1) I think HF is playing pretty well atm and 2) I can't imagine why somebody would think I am mafia atm.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 19 2016 18:15 GMT
#187
Kmatt don't be disconnected to what is happening right now.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 19 2016 18:29 GMT
#198
wow this feels like 2 years back and playing with rayn.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 19 2016 18:33 GMT
#204
On December 20 2016 03:31 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2016 03:29 Koshi wrote:
wow this feels like 2 years back and playing with rayn.

Wtf is Ryan gone?

gone but not yet dead.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 19 2016 18:35 GMT
#206
On December 20 2016 03:34 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2016 03:29 Koshi wrote:
wow this feels like 2 years back and playing with rayn.


What does this even mean?

I am Will Smith and you are the other guy?
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 19 2016 18:41 GMT
#210
On December 20 2016 03:39 Holyflare wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
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Jaden Smith?

No I meant the other black guy in Bad Boys. But you can be the old white guy from MiB. Maybe that fits better.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 19 2016 18:47 GMT
#213
On December 20 2016 03:46 Holyflare wrote:
You guys are boring, I'm gonna get shot like crazy tonight

nha this time they will medic dodge and shoot me.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 19 2016 19:12 GMT
#220
I still don't like you.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 19 2016 19:18 GMT
#225
On December 20 2016 04:15 disformation wrote:
good point I prop should look at him again anyways.
cause I have like no scum reads and a bunch of ppl I don't want to lynch.

like i dont want to lynch hf, kmatt, ls and koshi.
me is town.
I like the latest batch of slam posts.

by pure poe i am down to rels, exo and sl.

Why is slam out of your PoE?

I hope it is a really good reason.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 19 2016 19:24 GMT
#230
On December 20 2016 04:19 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2016 04:18 Koshi wrote:
On December 20 2016 04:15 disformation wrote:
good point I prop should look at him again anyways.
cause I have like no scum reads and a bunch of ppl I don't want to lynch.

like i dont want to lynch hf, kmatt, ls and koshi.
me is town.
I like the latest batch of slam posts.

by pure poe i am down to rels, exo and sl.

Why is slam out of your PoE?

I hope it is a really good reason.

Probably not. :D
Liked this post:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2016 03:31 Alakaslam wrote:
On December 20 2016 01:18 Kmatt wrote:
I didn't have much weight in SL's post having much meaning, just wanted to "explain the joke". No one would obviously scumslip that easily (at least not by accident) so I don't find anything scummy on him. Town enough for now.

LS seems town. Nothing groundbreaking but certainly nothing damning out of him.

I was ready to unvote ExO_ if he came in with some good responses (obviously we all sleep, not a huge deal) but from seeing his kneejerk reaction to me pointing a finger and nothing else makes me more confident in my call.

Alakaslam/Koshi/Holyflame are still ambiguous. I have to go take a final so I'll be back later.

Lol why am I in this list I may as well have been inactive


Yeah your reasoning is terrible. It's not because it is slam you shouldn't hold him to a high standard.
Everything slam did is well within his scum meta. It is not because he is simpler to understand this game that he is town. That's not how it works. Pretty easy post for scum!slam to make.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 19 2016 19:28 GMT
#234
Nha I don't think disformation is town.
Kmatt probably is.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 19 2016 19:36 GMT
#237
disformation. Your problem is that your reads boil down to "everybody is town unless I have something bad to say about them."

You have called somebody town 3 times this game when the correct read is null.
You have not been pushing the game forward.
You feel absent but are lurking.
You said once too many that you have no reads, or that it is hard to gain reads.
You called HF & me mafia.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 19 2016 19:42 GMT
#240
9.disformation
2.ExO_
6.Rels
5.sicklucker
1.Alakaslam
8. Kmatt
4.LightningStrike
7.Holyflare

I have to reread ExO but I am going to call it a day for now.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 19 2016 22:39 GMT
#265
Well. disformation might be looking scummy. At this rate I can't lynch him.

##unvote
##vote sicklucker
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 19 2016 22:44 GMT
#267
Oh boi
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 19 2016 22:46 GMT
#268
Depending on how Rels will play:
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
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December 19 2016 22:46 GMT
#270
On December 20 2016 07:46 disformation wrote:
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On December 20 2016 07:39 Koshi wrote:
Well. disformation might be looking scummy. At this rate I can't lynch him.

##unvote
##vote sicklucker

Huh? Care to explain? Either i'm scummy and you are lynching me, or I am not scummy and you are not lynching me.

You are scummy but I am not lynching you.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 19 2016 22:53 GMT
#273
On December 20 2016 07:49 disformation wrote:
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On December 20 2016 07:46 Koshi wrote:
On December 20 2016 07:46 disformation wrote:
On December 20 2016 07:39 Koshi wrote:
Well. disformation might be looking scummy. At this rate I can't lynch him.

##unvote
##vote sicklucker

Huh? Care to explain? Either i'm scummy and you are lynching me, or I am not scummy and you are not lynching me.

You are scummy but I am not lynching you.

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There is a reason why we don't lynch mafia each D1. For some reason some townies can play scummier than the scummers. I am not yet sure that is you. I would still put you on the scumpile of things, really near the top, but I have a feeling I am going to be happier having you around D2 than sicklucker.

Like... I prefer to take the 60/40% odds I am currently feeling on sicklucker, over the 70/30% odd I have on you. Simply because I feel you will keep going up and down pretty volatile during the next days, while sicklucker is dogshit.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 19 2016 22:54 GMT
#274
I also still have to reread Exo. I think he is probably the best lynch out of the bunch. Combative in the discussions and happy to be out of the thread.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 19 2016 23:55 GMT
#285
Rels if you have time can you look at disformation. I am going to bed now but he is mafia but made some townie posts. But the problem is that good but not great mafia players make a couple good looking posts to avoid the lynch.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 20 2016 08:32 GMT
#298
ExO try to make posts on why other people are mafia now.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
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December 20 2016 09:05 GMT
#299
I reread Exo and the first 10 pages of the game and nothing Exo did is showing any mafia mindset. I think the case on him boils down to "odd town play".

The case Rels makes on Exo, I don't know if that makes him mafia, it is a very odd play for mafia to constantly push such a deep idea while defending.
"If you think I am mafia you should also think disformation is mafia, but you don't think disformation is mafia so you are mafia".

I am reading Exo more like odd town than cornered mafia.


So currently I still don't like disinformation, sicklucker, Alakaslam & Rels. I might really not like Rels.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 20 2016 09:07 GMT
#301
Disformation / Rels should maybe be lynched into. Sicklucker as backup?
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
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December 20 2016 09:19 GMT
#303
On December 20 2016 18:08 Rels wrote:
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On December 20 2016 18:05 Koshi wrote:
I reread Exo and the first 10 pages of the game and nothing Exo did is showing any mafia mindset. I think the case on him boils down to "odd town play".

The case Rels makes on Exo, I don't know if that makes him mafia, it is a very odd play for mafia to constantly push such a deep idea while defending.
"If you think I am mafia you should also think disformation is mafia, but you don't think disformation is mafia so you are mafia".

I am reading Exo more like odd town than cornered mafia.


So currently I still don't like disinformation, sicklucker, Alakaslam & Rels. I might really not like Rels.

Why ?

If you are asking why I don't like you. I don't know yet. But my feels say you are potential mafia.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 20 2016 09:24 GMT
#305
On December 20 2016 18:22 Rels wrote:
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On December 20 2016 18:19 Koshi wrote:
On December 20 2016 18:08 Rels wrote:
On December 20 2016 18:05 Koshi wrote:
I reread Exo and the first 10 pages of the game and nothing Exo did is showing any mafia mindset. I think the case on him boils down to "odd town play".

The case Rels makes on Exo, I don't know if that makes him mafia, it is a very odd play for mafia to constantly push such a deep idea while defending.
"If you think I am mafia you should also think disformation is mafia, but you don't think disformation is mafia so you are mafia".

I am reading Exo more like odd town than cornered mafia.


So currently I still don't like disinformation, sicklucker, Alakaslam & Rels. I might really not like Rels.

Why ?

If you are asking why I don't like you. I don't know yet. But my feels say you are potential mafia.

That is what I'm asking about and this doesn't statisfy me.
Why is SL anything other than null ?

PoE makes his mafia chance higher.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 20 2016 09:25 GMT
#306
Because I like you are here I shall read the latest pages as well. Maybe my feels are off. (wouldn't hope on it)
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
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December 20 2016 10:05 GMT
#312
I disagree. That post is extremely easy to make as scum. He made shitpost after shitpost, didn't do jack shit the entire time this was being discussed "live", and then at some later point in time he makes a recap post on Exo.

Really not impressed by that.


There are 2 things speaking in disformation his favor:
1) he was quite quickly poe'ed on the right people.
2) his tone is consistently terrible.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 20 2016 10:06 GMT
#313
On December 20 2016 19:03 Alakaslam wrote:
Rels is too unsure in the wrong places.

Just a vibe; vibes fail me a lot.


Just tossing it out there because fish, mc chicken, I'm voting the vibe. So this vote isn't technically a ninja vote.

(I did this at 2AM but whatever.)

On December 20 2016 19:04 Alakaslam wrote:
##Vote: Rels


Ty slam. This is really good. Ty.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
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December 20 2016 10:09 GMT
#317
On December 20 2016 19:09 Alakaslam wrote:
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On December 20 2016 19:06 Koshi wrote:
On December 20 2016 19:03 Alakaslam wrote:
Rels is too unsure in the wrong places.

Just a vibe; vibes fail me a lot.


Just tossing it out there because fish, mc chicken, I'm voting the vibe. So this vote isn't technically a ninja vote.

(I did this at 2AM but whatever.)

On December 20 2016 19:04 Alakaslam wrote:
##Vote: Rels


Ty slam. This is really good. Ty.

it is shit but whatever

No it is really good.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
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December 20 2016 10:13 GMT
#320
On December 20 2016 19:11 Rels wrote:
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On December 20 2016 19:05 Koshi wrote:
I disagree. That post is extremely easy to make as scum. He made shitpost after shitpost, didn't do jack shit the entire time this was being discussed "live", and then at some later point in time he makes a recap post on Exo.

Really not impressed by that.


There are 2 things speaking in disformation his favor:
1) he was quite quickly poe'ed on the right people.
2) his tone is consistently terrible.

He made a recap post that resulted at NO conclusion, when he was under pressured for being waffled. This is NOT easy to make as scum, not the recap part, the not taking position part.

Is this opposite world?
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
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December 20 2016 10:19 GMT
#326
On December 20 2016 19:16 Rels wrote:
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On December 20 2016 19:13 Koshi wrote:
On December 20 2016 19:11 Rels wrote:
On December 20 2016 19:05 Koshi wrote:
I disagree. That post is extremely easy to make as scum. He made shitpost after shitpost, didn't do jack shit the entire time this was being discussed "live", and then at some later point in time he makes a recap post on Exo.

Really not impressed by that.


There are 2 things speaking in disformation his favor:
1) he was quite quickly poe'ed on the right people.
2) his tone is consistently terrible.

He made a recap post that resulted at NO conclusion, when he was under pressured for being waffled. This is NOT easy to make as scum, not the recap part, the not taking position part.

Is this opposite world?

Nope.
But if they're partners though everything I've just said doesn't hold weight actually.

1) Exo was being attacked by the thread and disformation lurked.
2) Exo leaves the thread and the thread leaves Exo
3) Disformation recaps Exo posts that confuses him.


How is does that look good for Disformation? Because he in the end doesn't really have a read on Exo? lol.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 20 2016 10:23 GMT
#329
On December 20 2016 19:18 Rels wrote:
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On December 20 2016 19:15 Alakaslam wrote:
On December 20 2016 19:09 Rels wrote:
On December 20 2016 19:03 Alakaslam wrote:
Rels is too unsure in the wrong places.

Just a vibe; vibes fail me a lot.


Just tossing it out there because fish, mc chicken, I'm voting the vibe. So this vote isn't technically a ninja vote.

(I did this at 2AM but whatever.)

What does that mean ? What am I unsure wrongly about ?

some of your stances on disformation, some of your ideas regarding who would be scum why, that kind of thing.

I find it odd though, what could I have meant? I find that I am really unclear, even in IRL with people. That probably explains lots of people's confusion with me on here. I am just a really bad communicator.

Like I would assume people would get what I meant from what I said, that they'd see the subtleties I intended rather than others. So I wouldn't think the subtleties through

like what could I even mean

wat

he made an excellent observation. I saw it as well but currently I don't know if I am talking to the N1 Rels from last game or mafia Rels.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 20 2016 10:23 GMT
#330
On December 20 2016 19:22 Rels wrote:
The thing is, he was pressured to take a stance and he made a big post with qutoes in it, to have no conclusion. It's so obviously scummy that I have doubts scum!disfo would post it without changing the conclusion to be "exo could be scum maybe" or whatever.

THAT IS NOT HOW THIS GAME WORKS.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
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December 20 2016 10:24 GMT
#331
You are creating a narrative that is completely retarded and not based on any facts.
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Koshi
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December 20 2016 10:25 GMT
#333
And the conclusion is "exo could be scum maybe"


Like what the fuck are you even doing Rels?
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 20 2016 10:27 GMT
#334
##unvote
##vote disformation


This is the correct lynch. Sicklucker is a good lynch as well, but a bigger bet.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
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December 20 2016 10:28 GMT
#335
I really don't know between sicklucker and disformation. I guess they will post and I can decide easier.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
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December 20 2016 10:53 GMT
#360
On December 20 2016 19:48 Rels wrote:
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On December 20 2016 19:46 Alakaslam wrote:
On December 20 2016 19:44 Rels wrote:
On December 20 2016 19:43 Alakaslam wrote:
^^ ok

See vote thread

Goodnight people

On December 20 2016 19:35 Rels wrote:
On December 20 2016 19:15 Alakaslam wrote:
On December 20 2016 19:09 Rels wrote:
On December 20 2016 19:03 Alakaslam wrote:
Rels is too unsure in the wrong places.

Just a vibe; vibes fail me a lot.


Just tossing it out there because fish, mc chicken, I'm voting the vibe. So this vote isn't technically a ninja vote.

(I did this at 2AM but whatever.)

What does that mean ? What am I unsure wrongly about ?

some of your stances on disformation, some of your ideas regarding who would be scum why, that kind of thing.

I find it odd though, what could I have meant? I find that I am really unclear, even in IRL with people. That probably explains lots of people's confusion with me on here. I am just a really bad communicator.

Like I would assume people would get what I meant from what I said, that they'd see the subtleties I intended rather than others. So I wouldn't think the subtleties through

like what could I even mean

Now that the thing on disfo is settled, please expand on the bolded.


Expand on it?

I read your stuff earlier today and I found it to be unnatural

That's a read of sorts. It's how some of us work, less concrete you might say.

I have a direct opposite experience with playing with saitamaofonepunch p:

You started 3 posts in this game (2 on disformation, 1 on Exo with major waffles).
It is odd.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
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December 20 2016 11:12 GMT
#369
On December 20 2016 08:34 Rels wrote:
I was disliking the push on ExO at first because I witnessed first hand that ExO can be heavily tilted as town. But exo might be scum actually.

On December 20 2016 09:19 Rels wrote:
I'm caught up. disfo might be scum maybe, I didn't like his posts on SL and Slam these last few pages. But if the lynch was right now I would 1000% lynch exo.

On December 20 2016 18:57 Rels wrote:
I don't know if I want to lynch disfo. There are things in his filter might indicate him as scum (not his hedging, he's known to do that as town): his first post, his "HF point on me is good" post, his very bad reasonning on SL on Slam. But there are things that are good like this post:

These things. Mafia has a though time thinking things through as a townie would.

The first step figuring things out is easy for a townie, it instant happens in his brain, then the second step is thinking further and proving your initial gutfeeling.

You are not doing that, you are stuck on step 1 and making boring as fuck posts about that.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
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December 20 2016 11:14 GMT
#371
On December 20 2016 20:13 disformation wrote:
one thing confuses me about slam.
He jumps into the thread, with an bad vibe on rels and votes him, over rels post on me. Which I can kinda understand.
Then Rels changes the conclusion on me and Slam unvotes Rels and votes me. I don't think Slam has ever mentioned me besides "yo rels I dont like your stuff on disfo"?

Your point?
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 20 2016 11:26 GMT
#374
On December 20 2016 20:16 disformation wrote:
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On December 20 2016 20:14 Koshi wrote:
On December 20 2016 20:13 disformation wrote:
one thing confuses me about slam.
He jumps into the thread, with an bad vibe on rels and votes him, over rels post on me. Which I can kinda understand.
Then Rels changes the conclusion on me and Slam unvotes Rels and votes me. I don't think Slam has ever mentioned me besides "yo rels I dont like your stuff on disfo"?

Your point?

*sigh* should probably said so the first time. xD

I am not 100% sure cause his points on rels arent bad and I might be biased.
But I get a bit of an opportunistic feeling of of this. As in: he might not be looking for scum, but for an ml.

Such a drag with you this game...

Again.. Why would he move his vote from Rels to you if he is mafia? Why bother? Clearly something happened and he liked it and decided to move his vote, knowing I was fighting about you with Rels there is a big chance something did change for him and he swapped his vote around.

It is more likely he is town for this, than mafia. Also, the way Alakaslam came in the thread voting Rels with actual reasoning is pretty good stuff. It is true that Rels is a wafflemaster this game and that there is a very prudent feeling behind his posts and that we all like our shit easy. Posts like "I think X is obvious mafia and reason Y and Z proof that". Nothing like that from Rels. Alakaslam saw that and voted Rels. I am ok with it.



Anyway. Why you can't make thoughtful posts bothers me. Light some fireworks in your ass and type things that are out there. So I can see you are actually thinking about things.


On December 20 2016 20:01 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2016 19:46 Alakaslam wrote:
On December 20 2016 19:44 Rels wrote:
On December 20 2016 19:43 Alakaslam wrote:
^^ ok

See vote thread

Goodnight people

On December 20 2016 19:35 Rels wrote:
On December 20 2016 19:15 Alakaslam wrote:
On December 20 2016 19:09 Rels wrote:
On December 20 2016 19:03 Alakaslam wrote:
Rels is too unsure in the wrong places.

Just a vibe; vibes fail me a lot.


Just tossing it out there because fish, mc chicken, I'm voting the vibe. So this vote isn't technically a ninja vote.

(I did this at 2AM but whatever.)

What does that mean ? What am I unsure wrongly about ?

some of your stances on disformation, some of your ideas regarding who would be scum why, that kind of thing.

I find it odd though, what could I have meant? I find that I am really unclear, even in IRL with people. That probably explains lots of people's confusion with me on here. I am just a really bad communicator.

Like I would assume people would get what I meant from what I said, that they'd see the subtleties I intended rather than others. So I wouldn't think the subtleties through

like what could I even mean

Now that the thing on disfo is settled, please expand on the bolded.


Expand on it?

I read your stuff earlier today and I found it to be unnatural

That's a read of sorts. It's how some of us work, less concrete you might say.

So I guess I am disagreeing with slam here. Imo Rels posts sounded good until he starts talking about me.

Also the bolded........ Almost nothing there except 1 post about Kmatt maybe being town which was fine. But the other post was him completely ignoring my bad "town case" on Exo and asking why I had a feeling he could be mafia....... While Exo is his nr 1 "certain" scumread.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 20 2016 11:26 GMT
#375
On December 20 2016 20:21 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2016 20:01 disformation wrote:
On December 20 2016 19:46 Alakaslam wrote:
On December 20 2016 19:44 Rels wrote:
On December 20 2016 19:43 Alakaslam wrote:
^^ ok

See vote thread

Goodnight people

On December 20 2016 19:35 Rels wrote:
On December 20 2016 19:15 Alakaslam wrote:
On December 20 2016 19:09 Rels wrote:
On December 20 2016 19:03 Alakaslam wrote:
Rels is too unsure in the wrong places.

Just a vibe; vibes fail me a lot.


Just tossing it out there because fish, mc chicken, I'm voting the vibe. So this vote isn't technically a ninja vote.

(I did this at 2AM but whatever.)

What does that mean ? What am I unsure wrongly about ?

some of your stances on disformation, some of your ideas regarding who would be scum why, that kind of thing.

I find it odd though, what could I have meant? I find that I am really unclear, even in IRL with people. That probably explains lots of people's confusion with me on here. I am just a really bad communicator.

Like I would assume people would get what I meant from what I said, that they'd see the subtleties I intended rather than others. So I wouldn't think the subtleties through

like what could I even mean

Now that the thing on disfo is settled, please expand on the bolded.


Expand on it?

I read your stuff earlier today and I found it to be unnatural

That's a read of sorts. It's how some of us work, less concrete you might say.

So I guess I am disagreeing with slam here. Imo Rels posts sounded good until he starts talking about me.

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On December 20 2016 20:16 disformation wrote:
On December 20 2016 20:14 Koshi wrote:
On December 20 2016 20:13 disformation wrote:
one thing confuses me about slam.
He jumps into the thread, with an bad vibe on rels and votes him, over rels post on me. Which I can kinda understand.
Then Rels changes the conclusion on me and Slam unvotes Rels and votes me. I don't think Slam has ever mentioned me besides "yo rels I dont like your stuff on disfo"?

Your point?

*sigh* should probably said so the first time. xD

I am not 100% sure cause his points on rels arent bad and I might be biased.
But I get a bit of an opportunistic feeling of of this. As in: he might not be looking for scum, but for an ml.

What the fuck am I even doing this game. xD

scumclaiming in my eyes. It's really annoying.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 20 2016 11:30 GMT
#376
On December 20 2016 18:07 Koshi wrote:
Disformation / Rels should maybe be lynched into. Sicklucker as backup?

Who are the terrible towns?
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
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December 20 2016 11:30 GMT
#377
pls stahp being terrible.
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Koshi
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December 20 2016 11:35 GMT
#379
On December 20 2016 20:32 disformation wrote:
hardclaiming terrible town. maybe the others can cc me and we fight to the death?

Good job going for the easy answer on that post and completely ignore the analysis I made on Alakaslam being more likely town for that change of vote. Which is the opposite conclusion you had on that "event".


Such a drag.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 20 2016 12:05 GMT
#400
I am not pushing you. Last games you can always be mafia and therefore always up for lynch. It's the baddies that leave you alone for "meta reasons".
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
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December 20 2016 12:25 GMT
#415
On December 20 2016 21:22 sicklucker wrote:
but you are voting me over scum reads. literraly pushing me

pressure and pushing is something completely different.
And I would not shed a tear if you would die.
Although this mindmeld thing with Rels is interesting.

Now I can lynch you before Rels.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
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December 20 2016 12:26 GMT
#416
On December 20 2016 21:23 sicklucker wrote:
koshi I dont mean to be mean but your the worst person at reading me. in my first 3 games against you I was mafia in all of them and you gave me strong town reads. Since then with the exception of last game I have always been town and you always think im mafia at some point ;p

These are probably lies so I don't give a fuck.

Last game you were mafia and I correctly put you near the top of my list. The games before that I was 3 times mafia and it was you who townread me. And then the games before that are already 8 months ago so fuck off.
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Koshi
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December 20 2016 12:26 GMT
#417
Ohno. I was even 4 times mafia in a row.
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Koshi
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December 20 2016 12:30 GMT
#418
9.disformation
5.sicklucker
2.ExO_
8. Kmatt
6.Rels
7.Holyflare
1.Alakaslam
4.LightningStrike


I am here atm.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
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December 20 2016 12:33 GMT
#419
I am also pretty suspicious that sicklucker is bullshitting about this mindmeld thing. I feel like his posts don't add up chronologically.
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Koshi
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December 20 2016 12:34 GMT
#420
On December 20 2016 21:19 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2016 20:12 Koshi wrote:
On December 20 2016 08:34 Rels wrote:
I was disliking the push on ExO at first because I witnessed first hand that ExO can be heavily tilted as town. But exo might be scum actually.

On December 20 2016 09:19 Rels wrote:
I'm caught up. disfo might be scum maybe, I didn't like his posts on SL and Slam these last few pages. But if the lynch was right now I would 1000% lynch exo.

On December 20 2016 18:57 Rels wrote:
I don't know if I want to lynch disfo. There are things in his filter might indicate him as scum (not his hedging, he's known to do that as town): his first post, his "HF point on me is good" post, his very bad reasonning on SL on Slam. But there are things that are good like this post:

These things. Mafia has a though time thinking things through as a townie would.

The first step figuring things out is easy for a townie, it instant happens in his brain, then the second step is thinking further and proving your initial gutfeeling.

You are not doing that, you are stuck on step 1 and making boring as fuck posts about that.



your right thats why my rels holyfalre and kmatt are town and your just a bad scummer =]

On December 20 2016 21:19 sicklucker wrote:
or just a bad!

On December 20 2016 21:20 sicklucker wrote:
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On December 20 2016 20:30 Koshi wrote:
pls stahp being terrible.


Calling me mafia into the double backdown. good stuff.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
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December 20 2016 12:34 GMT
#421
Like who is mafia with Exo at this point?
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Koshi
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December 20 2016 12:58 GMT
#426
On December 20 2016 21:37 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2016 21:34 Koshi wrote:
Like who is mafia with Exo at this point?

More likely someone not voting ExO_

ughhhh. you keep doing this thing in which you refuse to play the game and think further. Why can't you give some fucking analysis instead of this shitty one liner.

Or

Can't you go look if sicklucker his posts add up around Rels. I feel like he already read everything before he "mindmelded" with Rels.
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Koshi
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December 20 2016 13:07 GMT
#429
Everything is wrong on Disformation. It's insane.
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December 20 2016 13:11 GMT
#430
I can see so many easy partners with disformation as well.

How Rels waffled 2 times on disformation, and even in his Exo vote said something about disformation. Or was that another post?

Sicklucker same. He just forces the pressure away from disformation and puts it somewhere else on a very unnatural way .


I had the feeling the lynch needed to be within these 3 names quite early and for some reason they all 3 can't push away the feeling they are mafia. Rels was the closest.
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Koshi
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December 20 2016 13:21 GMT
#433
disformation, if you are not mafia, there is without a single piece of doubt, mafia within Rels/Sicklucker. Maybe even both.


I stopped believing Exo is mafia.
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Koshi
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December 20 2016 13:26 GMT
#436
On December 20 2016 22:23 disformation wrote:
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On December 20 2016 22:11 Koshi wrote:
I can see so many easy partners with disformation as well.

How Rels waffled 2 times on disformation, and even in his Exo vote said something about disformation. Or was that another post?

Sicklucker same. He just forces the pressure away from disformation and puts it somewhere else on a very unnatural way .


I had the feeling the lynch needed to be within these 3 names quite early and for some reason they all 3 can't push away the feeling they are mafia. Rels was the closest.

since I am town. that should make them more town, since they legit dont know my aligment?
doesnt make much sense for them to waffle about me as scum right? just line me up as a ML?
though rels is kinda doing that with his waffling...

If you are town. This is what is happening:

Town is pushing a ml (Koshi and HF)
Mafia is pushing a ml (Exo)


Now mafia can still be within many names. Some more likely than others.



But it is fucking time to put on your big boy shoes and somehow show that you are solving this game. And you do that by showing that every post you make, even if it is only 1-2 lines.
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Koshi
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December 20 2016 13:26 GMT
#437
On December 20 2016 22:25 Holyflare wrote:
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On December 20 2016 22:21 Koshi wrote:
disformation, if you are not mafia, there is without a single piece of doubt, mafia within Rels/Sicklucker. Maybe even both.


I stopped believing Exo is mafia.


That's a terrible thing to do.

Sure, but I need to live in that world right now.
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Koshi
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December 20 2016 13:27 GMT
#438
EBWOP 2 posts up

Town (Koshi and HF) is pushing a ml (disformation)
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Koshi
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December 20 2016 15:22 GMT
#477
wow you 2 are not horrible after all. Good page.
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Koshi
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December 20 2016 15:24 GMT
#478
Could Kmatt and Exo be mafia partners? That little outburst at the start? Was it odd?
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Koshi
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December 20 2016 15:49 GMT
#483
##unvote
##Vote Exo


meh we will see.
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Koshi
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December 20 2016 15:51 GMT
#485
I can only see a bus or Slam being mafia with Exo. Because Exo took destructive battering from everywhere.
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Koshi
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December 20 2016 17:15 GMT
#501
On December 21 2016 02:14 Rels wrote:
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On December 20 2016 20:12 Koshi wrote:
On December 20 2016 08:34 Rels wrote:
I was disliking the push on ExO at first because I witnessed first hand that ExO can be heavily tilted as town. But exo might be scum actually.

On December 20 2016 09:19 Rels wrote:
I'm caught up. disfo might be scum maybe, I didn't like his posts on SL and Slam these last few pages. But if the lynch was right now I would 1000% lynch exo.

On December 20 2016 18:57 Rels wrote:
I don't know if I want to lynch disfo. There are things in his filter might indicate him as scum (not his hedging, he's known to do that as town): his first post, his "HF point on me is good" post, his very bad reasonning on SL on Slam. But there are things that are good like this post:

These things. Mafia has a though time thinking things through as a townie would.

The first step figuring things out is easy for a townie, it instant happens in his brain, then the second step is thinking further and proving your initial gutfeeling.

You are not doing that, you are stuck on step 1 and making boring as fuck posts about that.

BS. The posts you quoted are actually all great indicators of my thought process.
I don't understand your logic on me. You know you don't read me well, I usually (always ?) fool you as scum, and you usually scumread me early game as town. Why are you so focus on me in this game ? It's nothing like last game, in which you gave me time to do stuff.

dnu
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Koshi
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December 20 2016 17:40 GMT
#510
On December 21 2016 02:24 Rels wrote:
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On December 20 2016 21:33 Koshi wrote:
I am also pretty suspicious that sicklucker is bullshitting about this mindmeld thing. I feel like his posts don't add up chronologically.

SL does not play like that. SL as scum does not lie about stuff like that. Why do you not know that SL as scum do not lie about stuff like that ?

I don't know why. But I thought he talked about you before he made the mindconnection thing.

SL was pretty townie when talking to disformation. But not before. Not yet.
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Koshi
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December 20 2016 17:43 GMT
#514
If Exo flips town this game might be interesting. Till then. Adieu.

+ Show Spoiler +
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Koshi
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December 20 2016 17:44 GMT
#515
Oh wait. Deadline is on an ungodlike hour. Ok. Till tomorrow.
Will lurk.
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Koshi
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December 20 2016 21:30 GMT
#587
Well.. I don't know.
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Koshi
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December 20 2016 21:31 GMT
#589
On December 21 2016 06:26 Holyflare wrote:
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On December 21 2016 06:01 LightningStrike wrote:
Okay I still don't think ExO is mafia based on meta and I still didn't see any real case on disformation unless I missed it somewhere in my skim. I pretty sure HF and Koshi are very likely town with their interactions with other people with their questioning. Dunno about sicklucker though seems very trollish early into not doing much. Kinda want to talk to him when he gets back to get a better read on him. Rels seems pretty townie too for his questioning and trying to push discussion on disformation but didn't see a real case on him :\


What??? There's literally a meta case saying he's exactly mafia.

It is quite obvious he meant his own meta case.
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Koshi
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December 20 2016 21:33 GMT
#593
I think everybody but Kmatt and ExO made a post or series of posts that I liked.

Disformation and Rels in addition made many posts I thought were pretty shit.

Alakaslam and sicklucker could be mafia but don't think I lynch them today.
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Koshi
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December 20 2016 21:35 GMT
#597
The problem I currently have is that LS forgot to find mafia and is superfixated on ExO.
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Koshi
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December 20 2016 21:35 GMT
#599
Hmm cool. 3 people thinking LS is odd at the same time. Interesting
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Koshi
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December 20 2016 21:36 GMT
#601
On December 21 2016 06:35 ExO_ wrote:
actually point of note is Koshi played with me on the scum team the only time I was scum here on TL.

Tell me Koshi what similarities are you seeing here that makes you think I'm scum?

I can't say you are mafia / not mafia. You didn't play enough.
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Koshi
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December 20 2016 21:39 GMT
#606
On December 21 2016 06:37 ExO_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2016 06:36 Koshi wrote:
On December 21 2016 06:35 ExO_ wrote:
actually point of note is Koshi played with me on the scum team the only time I was scum here on TL.

Tell me Koshi what similarities are you seeing here that makes you think I'm scum?

I can't say you are mafia / not mafia. You didn't play enough.


And yet you jumped on me immediately and have kept that vote.

You really think this is your best lynch for day 1?

Don't lie. That is stupid.

I jumped on you to pressure you. I jumped on many people after that.
I devil advocate defended you during the day. I tried considering you are confirmed town and find other answers. I said for a long time mafia was within disinf/Rels/Sicklucker.

So don't say dumb things.
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Koshi
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December 20 2016 21:41 GMT
#612
On December 21 2016 06:37 ExO_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2016 06:36 Koshi wrote:
On December 21 2016 06:35 ExO_ wrote:
actually point of note is Koshi played with me on the scum team the only time I was scum here on TL.

Tell me Koshi what similarities are you seeing here that makes you think I'm scum?

I can't say you are mafia / not mafia. You didn't play enough.


And yet you jumped on me immediately and have kept that vote.

You really think this is your best lynch for day 1?

Like I said. At this point I don't know who is the best lynch and if you are not mafia the real mafia played well somewhere in this game. But I think Slam/Kmatt and LS have been hiding in the shadows a bit more than others.

But Rels/Disinfo and sicklucker came out to play and convinced me they could be town.
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Koshi
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December 20 2016 21:44 GMT
#619
On December 21 2016 06:41 ExO_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2016 06:39 Koshi wrote:
On December 21 2016 06:37 ExO_ wrote:
On December 21 2016 06:36 Koshi wrote:
On December 21 2016 06:35 ExO_ wrote:
actually point of note is Koshi played with me on the scum team the only time I was scum here on TL.

Tell me Koshi what similarities are you seeing here that makes you think I'm scum?

I can't say you are mafia / not mafia. You didn't play enough.


And yet you jumped on me immediately and have kept that vote.

You really think this is your best lynch for day 1?

Don't lie. That is stupid.

I jumped on you to pressure you. I jumped on many people after that.
I devil advocate defended you during the day. I tried considering you are confirmed town and find other answers. I said for a long time mafia was within disinf/Rels/Sicklucker.

So don't say dumb things.


Nothing I've said is lying, are you kidding me? You literally voted me almost immediately and kept your vote there. Regardless what the motivation for the vote was, it IS what happened.

And I've been pressured. I'm sitting here posting. What exactly do you want before you can make a call whether or not I'm scum? You can't hide behind that now. Either you think I'm scum and vote me, or you should explain why you are continuing to vote me if you don't think I'm scum

Maybe I forgot to change my vote in the vote thread but if you actually read the thread I defended you for multiple hours and pressured other people.

Anyway. It isn't important.

You didn't play enough bro. You were here but decided to not look for mafia. And even now you are just naming the other potential lynchbaits and showing activity. I have not read really good reasoning why somebody is mafia. If you can't provide that, you need to play throughout the phase more.
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Koshi
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December 20 2016 21:46 GMT
#622
On December 21 2016 06:46 sicklucker wrote:
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On December 21 2016 06:43 disformation wrote:
Uh. My memory says Koshi was like one of the only ones to look at other ppl and throw votes at other ppl?
Think he had at least SL and me at some point.
Think he was at least considering rels at an other point?

so at the very least he didnt keep his vote on you


koshi just voted exo when it was obvious exo was the lynch. if koshis his partner hes not trying very hard to hide it

Well I voted Exo because you and disformation showed some brainactivity and you harddefended Rels so there was nothing much left for me to do.
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Koshi
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December 20 2016 21:50 GMT
#626
Meh. Ignore ExO. If he is mafia he does a great job keeping the votes on him. Even his vote on HF is weird if you look it survival wise.
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Koshi
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December 20 2016 21:51 GMT
#628
On December 21 2016 06:50 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2016 06:46 Koshi wrote:
On December 21 2016 06:46 sicklucker wrote:
On December 21 2016 06:43 disformation wrote:
Uh. My memory says Koshi was like one of the only ones to look at other ppl and throw votes at other ppl?
Think he had at least SL and me at some point.
Think he was at least considering rels at an other point?

so at the very least he didnt keep his vote on you


koshi just voted exo when it was obvious exo was the lynch. if koshis his partner hes not trying very hard to hide it

Well I voted Exo because you and disformation showed some brainactivity and you harddefended Rels so there was nothing much left for me to do.


i still dont see why you townread me for those disinfo posts I thought they were bad but ill take it

"townread"

You just made some not horrible posts.
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Koshi
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December 20 2016 21:52 GMT
#629
On December 21 2016 06:51 Holyflare wrote:
If he's town I have a feeling kmatt slipped it and made a wall of irrelevant case text to hide it.

kmatt made 2 really bad posts this game. If he is mafia with disinformation he slipped twice.
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Koshi
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December 20 2016 21:56 GMT
#632
Maybe we lynch the Slamfish?
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Koshi
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December 20 2016 21:56 GMT
#633
Is there a world in which we don't lynch him?
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Koshi
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December 20 2016 22:00 GMT
#638
##unvote
##vote Alakaslam


Not sure if he is mafia. But ExO made 20 posts in an hour. If he finds time tomorrow maybe we can read him better. I also respect LS his read on him. I also think too many people called him mafia.

If Exo is mafia I think we will figure it out anyway. And the path looks pretty good from there.

If Slam is town we just play 5 vs 2 tomorrow with 4ish townreads.
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Koshi
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December 20 2016 22:02 GMT
#639
Is Slam ever not going to be a questionmark though? And 5 vs 2 will be more fun anyway. Imagine Exo is mafia and we let him live. Going to be much more fun tomorrow. And potentially more information. Or maybe a smarter bus :0
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Koshi
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December 20 2016 22:06 GMT
#645
On December 21 2016 07:05 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2016 07:04 Rels wrote:
On December 21 2016 06:27 ExO_ wrote:
On December 21 2016 06:24 sicklucker wrote:
On December 21 2016 06:22 ExO_ wrote:
SL seems entirely uninterested in engaging me. Why?


tbf rels koshi and others wont even be here for deadline and altho I am open to listening you out it seems pointless and I want to watch a movie =[


It's not about switching votes at this point. It's about getting the perspective of a townie. Anything I say you know will be motivated not from a scum perspective, but from my own VT perspective. I'd love it if the lynch changed but assholes like HF are so self-confident that there won't be any movement in time.

And then they'll just blame me in the end. Honestly fuck HF

I thought HF was scum in your head ? Why are you insulting him if you think he's scum.


Also exactly this.

Meh. His play is so odd. I am just not sure it is mafia. If he flips mafia I probably shrug and say, ok, that was pretty terrible mafia play, but if he flips town I will feel regret and think, that was pretty terrible town play.
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Koshi
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December 20 2016 22:07 GMT
#646
Like... What has mafia ExO been doing? The guy is not stupid.
What was his plan?
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Koshi
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December 20 2016 22:09 GMT
#649
On December 21 2016 07:07 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2016 07:06 Koshi wrote:
On December 21 2016 07:05 Holyflare wrote:
On December 21 2016 07:04 Rels wrote:
On December 21 2016 06:27 ExO_ wrote:
On December 21 2016 06:24 sicklucker wrote:
On December 21 2016 06:22 ExO_ wrote:
SL seems entirely uninterested in engaging me. Why?


tbf rels koshi and others wont even be here for deadline and altho I am open to listening you out it seems pointless and I want to watch a movie =[


It's not about switching votes at this point. It's about getting the perspective of a townie. Anything I say you know will be motivated not from a scum perspective, but from my own VT perspective. I'd love it if the lynch changed but assholes like HF are so self-confident that there won't be any movement in time.

And then they'll just blame me in the end. Honestly fuck HF

I thought HF was scum in your head ? Why are you insulting him if you think he's scum.


Also exactly this.

Meh. His play is so odd. I am just not sure it is mafia. If he flips mafia I probably shrug and say, ok, that was pretty terrible mafia play, but if he flips town I will feel regret and think, that was pretty terrible town play.

Isnt that how it goes most of the time with D1?

bad one liner.

Do you think ExO would come back to the thread like this as mafia? We can agree he at least wasn't lurking and came back with a plan right?
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Koshi
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December 20 2016 22:09 GMT
#651
On December 21 2016 07:09 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2016 06:56 Koshi wrote:
Maybe we lynch the Slamfish?

Not over exo

Who do we lynch over Exo?
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Koshi
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December 20 2016 22:10 GMT
#653
On December 21 2016 07:10 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2016 07:09 Koshi wrote:
On December 21 2016 07:09 Rels wrote:
On December 21 2016 06:56 Koshi wrote:
Maybe we lynch the Slamfish?

Not over exo

Who do we lynch over Exo?

nobody

then just stay quiet and enjoy the ml.
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Koshi
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December 20 2016 22:10 GMT
#654
@LighteningStrike

If you want to help me here? I go to bed soonish and the time to make a play to save ExO is now.
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Koshi
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December 20 2016 22:11 GMT
#657
On December 21 2016 07:11 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2016 07:07 Koshi wrote:
Like... What has mafia ExO been doing? The guy is not stupid.
What was his plan?


Feel bad for his team mate and do a last ditched attempt to not get lynched?

Pfff. Didn't feel like it.
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Koshi
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December 20 2016 22:13 GMT
#663
On December 21 2016 07:13 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2016 07:11 Koshi wrote:
On December 21 2016 07:11 Holyflare wrote:
On December 21 2016 07:07 Koshi wrote:
Like... What has mafia ExO been doing? The guy is not stupid.
What was his plan?


Feel bad for his team mate and do a last ditched attempt to not get lynched?

Pfff. Didn't feel like it.

Why would he be angry at HF and scumreading him at the same time if he's town ?

Because he is town and being lost. His best post in the thread was about disinfo and LS being mafia.
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Koshi
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December 20 2016 22:15 GMT
#665
On December 21 2016 07:13 Holyflare wrote:
I'd lynch kmatt for the lolz if you really think exo is town though :p

I forgot about his WoT list post earlier. NU did it as mafia as well last game around that time D1. Bought cred with it.

Same thing here?
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Koshi
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December 20 2016 22:17 GMT
#668
On December 21 2016 07:15 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2016 07:13 Koshi wrote:
On December 21 2016 07:13 Rels wrote:
On December 21 2016 07:11 Koshi wrote:
On December 21 2016 07:11 Holyflare wrote:
On December 21 2016 07:07 Koshi wrote:
Like... What has mafia ExO been doing? The guy is not stupid.
What was his plan?


Feel bad for his team mate and do a last ditched attempt to not get lynched?

Pfff. Didn't feel like it.

Why would he be angry at HF and scumreading him at the same time if he's town ?

Because he is town and being lost. His best post in the thread was about disinfo and LS being mafia.

then he voted HF ? That doesn't make any sense

Look dude. If you are mafia and play with a mafia buddy you enter the thread with an exit plan.

Exo did not do that. Exo also replied to a lot of people quickly and made some insightful comments. (now those comments were kinda horrible because it seems like he didn't even read the thread carefully, but that is totally NAI)

What was mafia ExO doing? And with who is he mafia? Either his buddy is bussing him hard and on top of that ExO has no problem talking to him or about him. Or it is LS/Alakaslam.
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Koshi
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December 20 2016 22:20 GMT
#673
On December 20 2016 21:30 Koshi wrote:
9.disformation
5.sicklucker
2.ExO_
8. Kmatt
6.Rels
7.Holyflare
1.Alakaslam
4.LightningStrike


I am here atm.

Well this list is fucking garbage.
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Koshi
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December 20 2016 22:21 GMT
#674
On December 21 2016 07:20 LightningStrike wrote:
Guys I really do think Slam is the better lynch here over ExO since I had read some of ExO's past games and ExO seems to be playing his town meta and Slam hasn't done much other than agreeing with people on stuff outside of his talk about rels and some stuff in that post but that was it. We should really lynch Slam over ExO due to my reasoning.

LS give me your top 4 names that could be mafia please.
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Koshi
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December 20 2016 22:23 GMT
#677
On December 21 2016 07:21 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2016 07:17 Koshi wrote:
On December 21 2016 07:15 Rels wrote:
On December 21 2016 07:13 Koshi wrote:
On December 21 2016 07:13 Rels wrote:
On December 21 2016 07:11 Koshi wrote:
On December 21 2016 07:11 Holyflare wrote:
On December 21 2016 07:07 Koshi wrote:
Like... What has mafia ExO been doing? The guy is not stupid.
What was his plan?


Feel bad for his team mate and do a last ditched attempt to not get lynched?

Pfff. Didn't feel like it.

Why would he be angry at HF and scumreading him at the same time if he's town ?

Because he is town and being lost. His best post in the thread was about disinfo and LS being mafia.

then he voted HF ? That doesn't make any sense

Look dude. If you are mafia and play with a mafia buddy you enter the thread with an exit plan.

Exo did not do that. Exo also replied to a lot of people quickly and made some insightful comments. (now those comments were kinda horrible because it seems like he didn't even read the thread carefully, but that is totally NAI)

What was mafia ExO doing? And with who is he mafia? Either his buddy is bussing him hard and on top of that ExO has no problem talking to him or about him. Or it is LS/Alakaslam.

This is generic shit, he could be the type of scum that think surviving is posting stuff in the thread. He played scum with you in the dota game, how did he play there ?

I can't compare it from memory. I reread it earlier but I am pretty sure he always weaseled himself out of the thread and just focussed on big ideas. Like he tunneled somebody and then kept doing that.

The big difference for sure is how open minded and clueless he is.
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Koshi
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December 20 2016 22:25 GMT
#679
On December 21 2016 07:23 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2016 07:21 Koshi wrote:
On December 21 2016 07:20 LightningStrike wrote:
Guys I really do think Slam is the better lynch here over ExO since I had read some of ExO's past games and ExO seems to be playing his town meta and Slam hasn't done much other than agreeing with people on stuff outside of his talk about rels and some stuff in that post but that was it. We should really lynch Slam over ExO due to my reasoning.

LS give me your top 4 names that could be mafia please.

Slam, Kmatt, sicklucker if doesn't prove he is town by day 3, then idk honestly I been asking people what the case was on dis since everyone talked about him being scummy and all but no one mention a case.

I think Rels is more likely mafia than sicklucker. Maybe.
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Koshi
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December 20 2016 22:26 GMT
#680
I still think the phrase ExO used to defend himself the first time was pretty odd for mafia.

If you think I am mafia you should also think disinformation is mafia. Why don't you think that?

Seems townie.
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Koshi
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December 20 2016 22:28 GMT
#682
Also if Exo flips mafia. Who do we lynch next? Slam right?
If Exo flips town. Who do we lynch next? Slam probably?

So why not lynch the player who is more likely to be unreadable first?




Nha I convinced myself. I am lynching Slam first.





Exo dug his own hole but too many people wanted to kill him while he was afk and I think he could be town. We should lynch a questionmark in Slam. There is still information when Slam flips town.
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Koshi
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December 20 2016 22:29 GMT
#683
On December 21 2016 07:26 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2016 07:25 Koshi wrote:
On December 21 2016 07:23 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 21 2016 07:21 Koshi wrote:
On December 21 2016 07:20 LightningStrike wrote:
Guys I really do think Slam is the better lynch here over ExO since I had read some of ExO's past games and ExO seems to be playing his town meta and Slam hasn't done much other than agreeing with people on stuff outside of his talk about rels and some stuff in that post but that was it. We should really lynch Slam over ExO due to my reasoning.

LS give me your top 4 names that could be mafia please.

Slam, Kmatt, sicklucker if doesn't prove he is town by day 3, then idk honestly I been asking people what the case was on dis since everyone talked about him being scummy and all but no one mention a case.

I think Rels is more likely mafia than sicklucker. Maybe.

Hmm why you don't like Rels? I might of skimmed over it when I did my catch up post.

He is a dumbass.
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Koshi
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December 20 2016 22:31 GMT
#685
On December 21 2016 07:29 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2016 07:26 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 21 2016 07:25 Koshi wrote:
On December 21 2016 07:23 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 21 2016 07:21 Koshi wrote:
On December 21 2016 07:20 LightningStrike wrote:
Guys I really do think Slam is the better lynch here over ExO since I had read some of ExO's past games and ExO seems to be playing his town meta and Slam hasn't done much other than agreeing with people on stuff outside of his talk about rels and some stuff in that post but that was it. We should really lynch Slam over ExO due to my reasoning.

LS give me your top 4 names that could be mafia please.

Slam, Kmatt, sicklucker if doesn't prove he is town by day 3, then idk honestly I been asking people what the case was on dis since everyone talked about him being scummy and all but no one mention a case.

I think Rels is more likely mafia than sicklucker. Maybe.

Hmm why you don't like Rels? I might of skimmed over it when I did my catch up post.

He is a dumbass.

For example when he was defending disinformation with a completely retarded reason which on top of that was incorrect because he didn't read carefully enough.

Problem is I think the entity rels/sicklucker is more likely both town than both mafia. But 1 mafia/1 retarded seems more likely.
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December 20 2016 22:34 GMT
#687
On December 21 2016 07:33 Rels wrote:
I'm gonna go to bed soon so let's reach a consensus soon please

I am never ever voting ExO today. My points on lynching slam first are excellent.
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December 20 2016 22:34 GMT
#689
I don't think there is any drawback from lynching town first, mafia after.
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#691
On December 21 2016 07:34 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2016 07:31 Koshi wrote:
On December 21 2016 07:29 Koshi wrote:
On December 21 2016 07:26 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 21 2016 07:25 Koshi wrote:
On December 21 2016 07:23 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 21 2016 07:21 Koshi wrote:
On December 21 2016 07:20 LightningStrike wrote:
Guys I really do think Slam is the better lynch here over ExO since I had read some of ExO's past games and ExO seems to be playing his town meta and Slam hasn't done much other than agreeing with people on stuff outside of his talk about rels and some stuff in that post but that was it. We should really lynch Slam over ExO due to my reasoning.

LS give me your top 4 names that could be mafia please.

Slam, Kmatt, sicklucker if doesn't prove he is town by day 3, then idk honestly I been asking people what the case was on dis since everyone talked about him being scummy and all but no one mention a case.

I think Rels is more likely mafia than sicklucker. Maybe.

Hmm why you don't like Rels? I might of skimmed over it when I did my catch up post.

He is a dumbass.

For example when he was defending disinformation with a completely retarded reason which on top of that was incorrect because he didn't read carefully enough.

Problem is I think the entity rels/sicklucker is more likely both town than both mafia. But 1 mafia/1 retarded seems more likely.

You think I'm more careful as town than as scum ?

What?
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December 20 2016 22:35 GMT
#693
Oh yeah, majority lynch. Another great reason to kill the most unreliable player first.
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December 20 2016 22:37 GMT
#696
On December 21 2016 07:36 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2016 07:34 Koshi wrote:
On December 21 2016 07:33 Rels wrote:
I'm gonna go to bed soon so let's reach a consensus soon please

I am never ever voting ExO today. My points on lynching slam first are excellent.

I stand the same about voting slam over exo. But one of us is gonna move to the majority before leaving because the setup include a fucking majority vote.

Well ExO should be lurking. If he fucks up and doesn't come back before deadline and causes a no lynch he can die in a fire tomorrow.
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December 20 2016 22:37 GMT
#697
Also HF could be mafia with Slam but not with Exo.
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December 20 2016 22:39 GMT
#699
On December 21 2016 07:37 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2016 07:35 Koshi wrote:
On December 21 2016 07:34 Rels wrote:
On December 21 2016 07:31 Koshi wrote:
On December 21 2016 07:29 Koshi wrote:
On December 21 2016 07:26 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 21 2016 07:25 Koshi wrote:
On December 21 2016 07:23 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 21 2016 07:21 Koshi wrote:
On December 21 2016 07:20 LightningStrike wrote:
Guys I really do think Slam is the better lynch here over ExO since I had read some of ExO's past games and ExO seems to be playing his town meta and Slam hasn't done much other than agreeing with people on stuff outside of his talk about rels and some stuff in that post but that was it. We should really lynch Slam over ExO due to my reasoning.

LS give me your top 4 names that could be mafia please.

Slam, Kmatt, sicklucker if doesn't prove he is town by day 3, then idk honestly I been asking people what the case was on dis since everyone talked about him being scummy and all but no one mention a case.

I think Rels is more likely mafia than sicklucker. Maybe.

Hmm why you don't like Rels? I might of skimmed over it when I did my catch up post.

He is a dumbass.

For example when he was defending disinformation with a completely retarded reason which on top of that was incorrect because he didn't read carefully enough.

Problem is I think the entity rels/sicklucker is more likely both town than both mafia. But 1 mafia/1 retarded seems more likely.

You think I'm more careful as town than as scum ?

What?

You say it's suspicious that I defended disfo using a post that I did'nt read carefully. Which I find to be a wrong thing to say about me, unless you think I'm more careful as town than as scum ?

scum tends to not read post very carefully because they are not scumhunting. But yeah you were pretty good last game as mafia but it has been so long I don't know.
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December 20 2016 22:40 GMT
#701
On December 21 2016 07:37 Koshi wrote:
Also HF could be mafia with Slam but not with Exo.

I say this solely because HF is the only person who became less townie over the last 15 hours. With disformation, rels and sicklucker becoming more townie.
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#702
On December 21 2016 07:40 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2016 19:06 Koshi wrote:
On December 20 2016 19:03 Alakaslam wrote:
Rels is too unsure in the wrong places.

Just a vibe; vibes fail me a lot.


Just tossing it out there because fish, mc chicken, I'm voting the vibe. So this vote isn't technically a ninja vote.

(I did this at 2AM but whatever.)

On December 20 2016 19:04 Alakaslam wrote:
##Vote: Rels


Ty slam. This is really good. Ty.


?

Yes. The reasoning for that is in the thread.
Why are you discrediting me to discredit this Slam wagon?
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December 20 2016 22:41 GMT
#704
If you think I am mafia with ExO just let me know bro.
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December 20 2016 22:41 GMT
#705
On December 21 2016 07:40 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2016 07:37 Koshi wrote:
Also HF could be mafia with Slam but not with Exo.

You shut your whore mouth. I am never mafia in this game ever.

I am trying to save you from being shot tonight.

Clearly no respect.
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December 20 2016 22:43 GMT
#709
On December 21 2016 07:40 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2016 19:06 Koshi wrote:
On December 20 2016 19:03 Alakaslam wrote:
Rels is too unsure in the wrong places.

Just a vibe; vibes fail me a lot.


Just tossing it out there because fish, mc chicken, I'm voting the vibe. So this vote isn't technically a ninja vote.

(I did this at 2AM but whatever.)

On December 20 2016 19:04 Alakaslam wrote:
##Vote: Rels


Ty slam. This is really good. Ty.


?

And tbf. That is maybe a reason to give him a townie point. But I can give townie points to all players this game. The least are without doubt Exo slam and Kmatt.

People who gathered mafia points are disinformation and Kmatt.



I don't think I am going to bother going for Kmatt atm.
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December 20 2016 22:44 GMT
#712
On December 21 2016 07:42 Holyflare wrote:
I want to lynch exo and I think your reasoning that mafoa has to have a plan other than "survive hopefully" is bad.

If you think he's town then I'm extremely questioning your motivation to lynch slam the question mark over kmatt the guy who posted reasoning his own lynch could be wrong and looked like he slipped.

Yes. Like I said. I am just typing out ideas to get the ball rolling.
But I also feel there could be truth in it.
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December 20 2016 22:45 GMT
#713
On December 21 2016 07:44 Holyflare wrote:
I do kind of see your reasoning for an exo town though because I saw glimpses.

Ughhhhhh

Slam or Kmatt switch? Or not? You can actually decide this game. If you are wrong you give up town mvp award.
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Koshi
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December 20 2016 22:46 GMT
#716
There is a game in which the host (it was raynpelikoneet) fucked up that had an immensly impressive mafia slam.
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December 20 2016 22:47 GMT
#718
On December 21 2016 07:47 Holyflare wrote:
Can someone link the kmatt mafia game?

Can you decide in 5 mins or less?
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December 20 2016 22:50 GMT
#723
meh. tbh I also feel bad about lynching slam. It's literally a 50/50 based on his posts.
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December 20 2016 22:51 GMT
#724
I just prefer it for future days.
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December 20 2016 22:51 GMT
#725
So Rels? Do we stick on ExO?
HF can't decide so he can go sit on a dick.
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Koshi
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December 20 2016 23:04 GMT
#738
Well I am ok on Slam.
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December 20 2016 23:07 GMT
#742
On December 21 2016 08:06 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2016 08:04 Koshi wrote:
Well I am ok on Slam.

Does that mean you dont want to lynch him anympre? did something cause this change of heart?

No I am ok sitting on him till the EoD1
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December 20 2016 23:13 GMT
#753
Well. I think it is weird no more people switch.
I am off.
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December 20 2016 23:16 GMT
#757
I also think it is unlikely kmatt and exo are mafia together. And therefore slam is also best lynch.

And mafia prefers town!slam in game than town!exo most likely.


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December 20 2016 23:18 GMT
#762
Oh and hf is not mafia with exo. Rels also not mafia with exo.
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December 21 2016 08:28 GMT
#869
On December 21 2016 11:13 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2016 10:23 Kmatt wrote:
How you don't know is beyond me unless you skipped 39 pages.

I voted him on his first post, he went super defensive/reactionary and kind of flailed about as pressure mounted. Since then he hasn't done anything constructive and continues to insist how he's VT and how HF is a meaniehead.

This told me sooooooo much

Can you explain this a bit more? Why can't scum!Kmatt think that?

I can see scum!Kmatt lurking and analyse that line out of ExO his defense.
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December 21 2016 08:29 GMT
#870
On December 21 2016 11:21 Holyflare wrote:
Right so you're just playing a white knight in a game you haven't read in a situation you know nothing about and a scenario that didn't occur. Okay Slam have fun preaching.

He is making extremely good posts between that. Dnu what you are doing.
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December 21 2016 08:31 GMT
#871
On December 21 2016 11:43 Alakaslam wrote:
Are EL S was saying some stuff, I can't remember squat I just remember being suspicious of him

/orgasm

You are confirmed town.
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December 21 2016 08:32 GMT
#872
Ok so mafia just thought it was better to lynch ExO over Slam.


For me mafia team is Rels/Kmatt atm.



Disformation might be town.
Sicklucker is confirmed really bad at the game.
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Koshi
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December 21 2016 08:33 GMT
#873
6.Rels
8. Kmatt
5.sicklucker

9.disformation

7.Holyflare
1.Alakaslam
4.LightningStrike



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December 21 2016 08:47 GMT
#874
The bottom 3 I would accept losing to if I had to eliminate 4 players this moment in time. They played really well as mafia and good as town.

Disformation made a bunch of terrible posts and should be mafia for that. But he then made a bunch of decent posts so I need 72 more hours.

Top 3 is bad town, little bit better mafia tier. Sicklucker made some posts that might resemble townie posts, so he is the lowest.
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December 21 2016 08:53 GMT
#875
In theorie the game is in a really good state for town now.
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December 21 2016 10:25 GMT
#881
On December 21 2016 19:20 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2016 17:47 Koshi wrote:
The bottom 3 I would accept losing to if I had to eliminate 4 players this moment in time. They played really well as mafia and good as town.

Disformation made a bunch of terrible posts and should be mafia for that. But he then made a bunch of decent posts so I need 72 more hours.

Top 3 is bad town, little bit better mafia tier. Sicklucker made some posts that might resemble townie posts, so he is the lowest.

STFU I'm not bad town

Yes you are.
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Koshi
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December 21 2016 10:27 GMT
#882
On December 21 2016 19:22 Rels wrote:
k I'm caught up. But I'll be super inactive all day, I'm preparing my exam. I'll have some time to play tonight to reread stuff and state my thoughts in case I die.

Analysis:
+ Excuses
+ Delusional
- Scumhunting


What is there even to reread if you are caught up? Game is extremely straight forward.
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Koshi
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December 21 2016 12:14 GMT
#883
fun game guis
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December 21 2016 12:15 GMT
#884
can mafia leave me alive pls? I am quite excited to see who out of the 4 is mafia.
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December 21 2016 13:31 GMT
#887
kmatt rels is indeed most likely for me atm.
sicklucker might be mafia though.


I really want to be alive tomorrow.
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December 21 2016 14:26 GMT
#889
On December 21 2016 23:24 Holyflare wrote:
I'm not ruling out kmatt disfo. He seemed pretty weird around the disfo wagon "all the points on disfo are great but this wagon I'm repeatedly having cold feet about is better!"

I am not ruling out LS/HF. But it's pretty low on my probability list.
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December 21 2016 14:36 GMT
#891
On December 21 2016 23:28 Holyflare wrote:
Cool statement

ty
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December 21 2016 14:41 GMT
#893
I do agree it is annoying that Rels and SL are while they are good players, confirmed town to each other.

Especially because their mindmeld was due to suspicion from Rels against Kmatt and disformation that sicklucker shared.


It's pretty brilliant if those 2 end up being mafia.
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December 21 2016 14:48 GMT
#894
The over the top reaction on the Exo townflip creeped me out. Was it super sarcastic or something?
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December 21 2016 16:57 GMT
#904
On December 22 2016 01:06 disformation wrote:
So looking at filters for votes and stuff. part 1.

Slam starts pushing and voting Rels over Rels having a strange/wrong read on me. Rels rectifies his read on me and points out a pretty scummy post by me. Slam votes me and just returns b4 the deadline. still would liked for him to say something about why he was voting me, but in context it makes sense.

Slam has the luck that people don't expect too much from him.

But

Everything he wrote this game was with a clear town mindset looking for mafia. Brilliant stuff from time to time. That does not mean he was right all the time, but I could perfectly see what a town!Slam was doing to find mafia.
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December 21 2016 16:57 GMT
#905
On December 22 2016 01:30 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2016 23:41 Koshi wrote:
I do agree it is annoying that Rels and SL are while they are good players, confirmed town to each other.

Especially because their mindmeld was due to suspicion from Rels against Kmatt and disformation that sicklucker shared.


It's pretty brilliant if those 2 end up being mafia.


when rels gets nked tonight your gonna feel pretty dumb

I am going to feel only pure joy.
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Koshi
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December 21 2016 18:04 GMT
#912
On December 22 2016 02:25 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2016 23:48 Koshi wrote:
The over the top reaction on the Exo townflip creeped me out. Was it super sarcastic or something?

Whose?


On December 21 2016 10:35 Kmatt wrote:
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Damn it all why didn't you morons talk me out of this.


WE LOST
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December 21 2016 18:07 GMT
#913
On December 22 2016 02:21 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2016 17:28 Koshi wrote:
On December 21 2016 11:13 Alakaslam wrote:
On December 21 2016 10:23 Kmatt wrote:
How you don't know is beyond me unless you skipped 39 pages.

I voted him on his first post, he went super defensive/reactionary and kind of flailed about as pressure mounted. Since then he hasn't done anything constructive and continues to insist how he's VT and how HF is a meaniehead.

This told me sooooooo much

Can you explain this a bit more? Why can't scum!Kmatt think that?

I can see scum!Kmatt lurking and analyse that line out of ExO his defense.

Because if he were scum, he wouldn't gladly inform me I think. He'd yell at me for being go-

Wait

Town would do that

Kmatt is a bit questionable. I got townfeels though.

exactly. He is neutral towards you and safely states why ExO is on the lynchblock. It could easily have come from mafia taking some towncred because "is helping".
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December 21 2016 18:12 GMT
#914
On December 22 2016 02:57 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2016 02:21 Alakaslam wrote:
On December 21 2016 17:28 Koshi wrote:
On December 21 2016 11:13 Alakaslam wrote:
On December 21 2016 10:23 Kmatt wrote:
How you don't know is beyond me unless you skipped 39 pages.

I voted him on his first post, he went super defensive/reactionary and kind of flailed about as pressure mounted. Since then he hasn't done anything constructive and continues to insist how he's VT and how HF is a meaniehead.

This told me sooooooo much

Can you explain this a bit more? Why can't scum!Kmatt think that?

I can see scum!Kmatt lurking and analyse that line out of ExO his defense.

Because if he were scum, he wouldn't gladly inform me I think. He'd yell at me for being go-

Wait

Town would do that

Kmatt is a bit questionable. I got townfeels though.

Aight. Let's see it is not Kmatt. Who is it then?

It is Rels and sicklucker for him. If you want to converse with the slamfish you need to make your questions better, so when he answers it isn't pointless.
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December 21 2016 18:15 GMT
#915
Yeah Kmatt his WoT bought him too much kred. Bad play by me.


Something is wrong on his top 3 townreads though. I don't know if disformation is mafia with him atm. I think there is info there.
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Koshi
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December 21 2016 18:18 GMT
#916
Holy fuck. His entrance was also the only one that just showed activity and nothing else. Fuck. I saw that. Why did he get off my radar so hard. And why didn't the only person who saw him being mafia (HF) not point it out harder?
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December 21 2016 18:19 GMT
#917
Kmatt
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December 21 2016 18:20 GMT
#918
I am extremely upset I didn't see that earlier. But it is set in stone now.
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December 21 2016 18:31 GMT
#921
This means Rels is confirmed town status for now. Pushing SL up by quite a lot. And HF weirdly enough.
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December 21 2016 18:32 GMT
#924
8. Kmatt

5.sicklucker

7.Holyflare
9.disformation
4.LightningStrike

6.Rels
1.Alakaslam
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December 21 2016 18:35 GMT
#928
Yes sorry. I thought Rels made a case on him during the day. But he didn't at all and then swapped his read around when it was safe to do so. I remember now because that is why Kmatt was off my radar.
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December 21 2016 18:37 GMT
#931
On December 22 2016 03:32 Koshi wrote:
8. Kmatt

6.Rels
5.sicklucker

4.LightningStrike

7.Holyflare
9.disformation
1.Alakaslam

Hmmmpff. I am on an identity crisis atm.
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December 21 2016 18:39 GMT
#932
Is LS playing us?
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December 21 2016 18:40 GMT
#933
fuck call me buddied.
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December 21 2016 18:40 GMT
#934
8. Kmatt

4.LightningStrike

6.Rels
5.sicklucker

7.Holyflare
9.disformation
1.Alakaslam




I am sorry buddy.
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December 21 2016 18:42 GMT
#936
One out of Rels/Sicklucker need to tell me the other one is mafia.
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December 21 2016 19:11 GMT
#945
On December 22 2016 03:48 sicklucker wrote:
koshi if you dont like getting nked maybe dont scum hunt at night

No because I make progression at night as well.
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December 21 2016 19:12 GMT
#946
On December 22 2016 03:59 LightningStrike wrote:
Sorry I was just way to pissed off that ExO still got lynched despite me and Koshi tried to start the wagon on Slam :\ I fine with a Kmatt lynch since Slam does look a bit better post lynch. Kmatt's early game talk is so weird around sicklucker which me and HF pointed out. Hopefully this game will get easier tonight.

Rels is going to go ham.
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December 21 2016 19:12 GMT
#947
poor poor ls
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December 21 2016 20:19 GMT
#957
On December 22 2016 04:36 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2016 04:34 Holyflare wrote:
On December 22 2016 04:32 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 22 2016 04:12 Koshi wrote:
On December 22 2016 03:59 LightningStrike wrote:
Sorry I was just way to pissed off that ExO still got lynched despite me and Koshi tried to start the wagon on Slam :\ I fine with a Kmatt lynch since Slam does look a bit better post lynch. Kmatt's early game talk is so weird around sicklucker which me and HF pointed out. Hopefully this game will get easier tonight.

Rels is going to go ham.

What you mean by going to go ham?


He typod. He meant he's going to get ham from the supermarket.

You sure he meant that?

It's the smiley.

It is known that smiley is made by mafia way more often than town.

It is known.
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December 21 2016 20:28 GMT
#959
Last game NU made it as well.
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December 21 2016 22:42 GMT
#971
Well. If that isn't bad town I don't know what is.
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Koshi
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December 21 2016 22:57 GMT
#973
nha. I don't think Rels is this incredible retarded even when he is drunk.

Probably mafia.
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Koshi
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December 21 2016 22:58 GMT
#974
Kmatt/Rels
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Koshi
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December 21 2016 23:06 GMT
#975
I am so scared of the fact Rels called Kmatt town. That really scares me.
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Koshi
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December 21 2016 23:06 GMT
#976
I need 48 more hours.
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Koshi
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December 21 2016 23:52 GMT
#981
Yes. How far gone are you when a working theory is that "Koshi is setting up a ml on Kmatt to frame Rels"?

AND

To top that off. My mafia buddy is SL, the one that would never lie about mindmelting with Rels.





It's not that my opinion on Rels town play is high lately. But I don't think town Rels is capable of this.
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Koshi
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December 21 2016 23:57 GMT
#983
I am sure this game isn't solved. Something is off.
Oh well.
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Koshi
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December 21 2016 23:59 GMT
#984
On December 22 2016 08:57 disformation wrote:
I think he is trying to say that I am either a partner with kmatt, rels or you and am setting up a ML on Rels after we lynch kmatt tomorrow. regardless of what kmatt flips.

ah yeah. you are he.
still.
Horrible.
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Koshi
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December 22 2016 00:02 GMT
#985
ahh now I understand. He is still upset about that post you made about Rels and Kmatt.


Pretty rich calling somebody out on TMI and setting up a ml while your defense is an omgus case based on the same TMI.
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Koshi
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December 22 2016 00:04 GMT
#986
I wonder if that little correction is him realizing that mistake and covering it up changing TMI with false info
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Koshi
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December 22 2016 00:04 GMT
#987
meh I am too tired.
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Koshi
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December 22 2016 00:40 GMT
#991
1 more thing in case I die.

HF and disformation are both town. Equally sure about both. Disfo picked up his game nicely and people who still call him mafia are braindead or mafia.

Slam is town hero.
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Koshi
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December 22 2016 08:24 GMT
#1022
Can we discuss how Rels thinks that him dieing N1 somehow means that I am mafia?
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Koshi
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December 22 2016 09:42 GMT
#1028
I have already explained that and quoted the posts.

You are too unsure about your scumreads and are not pushing them at all.
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Koshi
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December 22 2016 09:44 GMT
#1029
On December 20 2016 09:19 Rels wrote:
I'm caught up. disfo might be scum maybe, I didn't like his posts on SL and Slam these last few pages. But if the lynch was right now I would 1000% lynch exo. He's fighting very differently from the last game I played with him; in that one he OMGUSd every player that pushed him. Here he stated a reason for suspecting Koshi and Kmatt and repeated it over and

This reads like shit.
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Koshi
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December 22 2016 09:45 GMT
#1030
And I liked it so much because I saw it but didn't say anything about it because I was like "meh w.e rels is bad anyway", but then when Alakaslam said the same thing I was very happy.
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Koshi
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December 22 2016 09:46 GMT
#1031
btw if you really dislike me calling you bad every chance I get you might want to say something and I will tone it down.

I don't want a second VE moment.


But if you can't hold yourself. Just don't post scum QT while you rage quit.
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Koshi
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December 22 2016 09:50 GMT
#1032
Also Rels, if you want to gain any townpoints.

1) Explain how you dieing means I am mafia? Why you? You didn't pressure me at all before saying that, why would I kill you, why not HF or sicklucker?

2) Accept the fact disformation is town. And give me extra reasoning why he is town. But accept it fully. I want you to write it down so you can't waffle around it anymore today.

3) Do you think HF is lock town for at least another day?
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Koshi
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December 22 2016 09:52 GMT
#1035
Oh and in addition.

You did the same on Kmatt (first mafia, then town, both reads very weak and waffly) and on Exo you also made a very unconvincing post on why he was mafia.

I can see from reading your posts you don't really believe what you write.
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Koshi
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December 22 2016 09:53 GMT
#1036
On December 22 2016 18:52 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2016 18:46 Koshi wrote:
btw if you really dislike me calling you bad every chance I get you might want to say something and I will tone it down.

I don't want a second VE moment.


But if you can't hold yourself. Just don't post scum QT while you rage quit.

Nothing can get me down today (= but no worries I'm town and I won't get lynched. I'm just getting started. With no kill tonight game is gonna be EZ

I don't know what math you people are all using. But the no lynch literally does nothing xcept maybe open up a shot of gaining a ml later.
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Koshi
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December 22 2016 09:57 GMT
#1038
On December 22 2016 18:51 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2016 18:45 Koshi wrote:
And I liked it so much because I saw it but didn't say anything about it because I was like "meh w.e rels is bad anyway", but then when Alakaslam said the same thing I was very happy.

But he's not the post you quoted, he's just repeating that he had a bad feeling about me earlier in the game.

Yes. because it felt really natural how he first gave reads and then went "oh shit, there is also rels who I thought was mafia once, maybe he is mafia"

That shit was good.


Mafia slam might have been caught up in what he said earlier and wanted to keep his story straight or something. This was way more likely town slam.
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Koshi
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December 22 2016 10:00 GMT
#1041
On December 22 2016 18:55 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2016 18:50 Koshi wrote:
Also Rels, if you want to gain any townpoints.

1) Explain how you dieing means I am mafia? Why you? You didn't pressure me at all before saying that, why would I kill you, why not HF or sicklucker?

2) Accept the fact disformation is town. And give me extra reasoning why he is town. But accept it fully. I want you to write it down so you can't waffle around it anymore today.

3) Do you think HF is lock town for at least another day?

YOU CANT TELL ME WHAT TO DO
1) I had this thought while I was drinking, that everybody else would kill HF or you, but if you're scum you wouldn't kill HF 'cause he's in your pocket
2) nope
3) probably

...

See.

Who said ExO was very likely town the entire day? Koshi.
Who was convinced he was a bad lynch when he came back. Koshi.
Who said the opposite. Rels

Who is saying Disformation is looking extremely townie lately. Koshi
Who is saying the opposite. Rels.

Who said Alakaslam his first voteswap from Rels to Disinformation was more likely to come from town and gave awesome reasoning? Koshi
Who is saying Alakaslam has been showing an extremely townie mindset in every post he makes. Koshi
Who said the opposite. Rels



...

...

...


What game are you playing?
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Koshi
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December 22 2016 10:02 GMT
#1042
On December 22 2016 18:57 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2016 18:52 Koshi wrote:
Oh and in addition.

You did the same on Kmatt (first mafia, then town, both reads very weak and waffly) and on Exo you also made a very unconvincing post on why he was mafia.

I can see from reading your posts you don't really believe what you write.

well since you always think that of me early game unless I find a scum and destroy him, I dont care

Well seems like you need to up your early game.
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Koshi
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December 22 2016 10:02 GMT
#1043
On December 22 2016 18:57 Rels wrote:
Koshi you ever played with scum disfo ?

Probably not.
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Koshi
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December 22 2016 10:02 GMT
#1044
Ok I ll make a towncase on disformation.
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Koshi
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December 22 2016 10:08 GMT
#1047
took page 8:

On December 21 2016 11:12 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2016 10:49 disformation wrote:
ExO_ (5): Kmatt, Holyflare, Koshi, Rels, sicklucker, disformation, Koshi
Alakaslam (2): Koshi, Koshi, LightningStrike
disformation (1): Holyflare, Koshi, Koshi, Alakaslam
Holyflare (1): ExO_
Kmatt (0): sicklucker
sicklucker (0): Koshi
Rels (0): Alakaslam

Bit of stuff planned tomorrow. Will try to find some time and look at reasons/timings behind the votes.

okay general thoughts:
at least 1 scum on exo.
i know im town. i think hf is town (let me look at his filter tomorrow).
so at least one in: kmatt, sl, rels.
if its two its not rels and sl. dont think they would hard tr each other over that mindmeld stuff.

out of the three remaining players slam obv sticks out the most. and he apparently thought the deadline was later, so he didnt have time to "fix" that.

one of ls and koshi might have the tmi factor going, but need to reread.

but yeah tomorrow is filter time

Correct analysis. Nothing here is being held back or is pushing an agenda.

On December 21 2016 21:24 disformation wrote:
I think its kmatt +1.

partially because I think that the exo vs kmatt thing was not tvt.
another thing is how he approached the exo wagon the whole day and then made quite a few strange posts right before eod after being "Nah exo didnt post anything that changed my mind".

something is def. wrong surrounding rels. like the sl mindmeld on him, with rels tring sl super hard. the whole approach on me. he was also pretty waffly on exo at the start right?

will be back later to look at some filters in more detail.

tbh I am super looking forward to see, who the suspects are going to want to lynch themselves.

Super townie sentence. Rest of the post is ok.

On December 21 2016 21:26 disformation wrote:
especially after slam looks a lot better now.

shows he uses PoE in his head.


On December 22 2016 01:06 disformation wrote:
So looking at filters for votes and stuff. part 1.

LS (see my last post): looks more town than scum. not impossible to be scum. like if his partner is on exo and slam is town, he could have been trying to come up with a decent reason to not be on the same wagon. but I dont think his behaviour/tone match up with that.

Slam starts pushing and voting Rels over Rels having a strange/wrong read on me. Rels rectifies his read on me and points out a pretty scummy post by me. Slam votes me and just returns b4 the deadline. still would liked for him to say something about why he was voting me, but in context it makes sense.

I loved that part from the LS read here. Again shows that he in his head is putting a lot of value in the Vote Analysis.
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Koshi
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December 22 2016 10:15 GMT
#1048
http://www.liquiddota.com/forum/mafia/498635-dark-tournament-mini-mafia?user=disformation&page=13
shitty page. Nothing like here.

http://www.liquiddota.com/forum/mafia/498635-dark-tournament-mini-mafia?user=disformation&page=12
Meh.

http://www.liquiddota.com/forum/mafia/498635-dark-tournament-mini-mafia?user=disformation&page=11
there is a case on disformation on page 11. Just proofs apathy.

Page 10 another big case on somebody.
disformation scum loves his sarcasm and opportunistic shade trowing. Sometimes combined.
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Koshi
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December 22 2016 10:22 GMT
#1051
On December 20 2016 23:49 disformation wrote:
Thing is you seem to be super aware that the mindmeld might sound constructed or something.
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2016 21:09 sicklucker wrote:
so ya me and rels both had independently the same idea unless you think im bullshitting about not reading the thread. easy town reads boys

Show nested quote +
On December 20 2016 21:15 sicklucker wrote:
Like I dont even care if exos town and we mislynch. im never voting rels for the rest of the game.

I give you my word 100% this coincidence of reads is too sick to ignore. Since I posted my reads after you psoted your probably just gonna be paranoid and think this is some ploy but from my perspective you had already posted this shit I just diddnt reaD it and then I posted the same shit before reading it


Another thing is that, aside from the mindmeld, you like rels for posts that a lot of ppl called him out for (slam, koshi, hf).

Nothing sarcastic, not opportunistic. Reads genuine.


On December 21 2016 00:00 disformation wrote:
well doesnt need to be planned. you just saw his posts and then decide to do that mindmeld thing.

granted it would be super strange if you are town and he is scum.

so that should mean either both of you are town or you are scum and he is town.

like i dont think it would be impossible for you as scum to fake that mindmeld to like pocket him and push a ml or two together.

i dont like that part where you say you dont care if ExO_ is a ML:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2016 21:15 sicklucker wrote:
Like I dont even care if exos town and we mislynch. im never voting rels for the rest of the game.

I give you my word 100% this coincidence of reads is too sick to ignore. Since I posted my reads after you psoted your probably just gonna be paranoid and think this is some ploy but from my perspective you had already posted this shit I just diddnt reaD it and then I posted the same shit before reading it

though I am not sure scum would post it like this. you actually sound pretty happy/excited about having a 100% tr D1.

Nothing sarcastic, not opportunistic. Reads genuine.

On December 21 2016 00:04 disformation wrote:
Am I not sure if this plan would be great as scum, but as you said you dont really plan. xD

Posts like this are really different than his scumgame. In which he always made big cases to convince himself somebody was mafia. Here he applies pressure and can back off. But in the last mafia game he would have even in this sentence tried to convince the thread sicklucker is mafia. People change ofc.


On December 21 2016 00:34 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2016 00:24 Koshi wrote:
Could Kmatt and Exo be mafia partners? That little outburst at the start? Was it odd?

There was def. something off in that exchange. It is like a reaction bait into a reaction bait into ExO_ being super pissed. And it def. doesnt read super natural. So I am thinking there is probably a scummer in there.
Since ExO_ didnt come back to play, but only to fish for feels I am assuming the one scummer is him.

For both to be scum I think they have to be cool with Kmatt getting enough cred off that to carry? Or they went to far and dont have the motivation to salvage it?
Like Kmatt didnt have a huge thread presence in his other game either, so I dont think him going carry is like a plan.

Unless they are like sicklucker and just wanted to do it. Like exo points out a mehish point on Kmatt for disassociation, Kmatt goes right back at him and either ExO_ gets pissed by that, or he tries to fake the game I linked?

I guess it is not impossible, but it sounds fairly far fetched for me.

Is this mafia being super opportunistic and setting up a double misslynch? Doesn't read like that.
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Koshi
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December 22 2016 10:23 GMT
#1052
On December 22 2016 19:21 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2016 19:08 Koshi wrote:
took page 8:

On December 21 2016 11:12 disformation wrote:
On December 21 2016 10:49 disformation wrote:
ExO_ (5): Kmatt, Holyflare, Koshi, Rels, sicklucker, disformation, Koshi
Alakaslam (2): Koshi, Koshi, LightningStrike
disformation (1): Holyflare, Koshi, Koshi, Alakaslam
Holyflare (1): ExO_
Kmatt (0): sicklucker
sicklucker (0): Koshi
Rels (0): Alakaslam

Bit of stuff planned tomorrow. Will try to find some time and look at reasons/timings behind the votes.

okay general thoughts:
at least 1 scum on exo.
i know im town. i think hf is town (let me look at his filter tomorrow).
so at least one in: kmatt, sl, rels.
if its two its not rels and sl. dont think they would hard tr each other over that mindmeld stuff.

out of the three remaining players slam obv sticks out the most. and he apparently thought the deadline was later, so he didnt have time to "fix" that.

one of ls and koshi might have the tmi factor going, but need to reread.

but yeah tomorrow is filter time

Correct analysis. Nothing here is being held back or is pushing an agenda.

On December 21 2016 21:24 disformation wrote:
I think its kmatt +1.

partially because I think that the exo vs kmatt thing was not tvt.
another thing is how he approached the exo wagon the whole day and then made quite a few strange posts right before eod after being "Nah exo didnt post anything that changed my mind".

something is def. wrong surrounding rels. like the sl mindmeld on him, with rels tring sl super hard. the whole approach on me. he was also pretty waffly on exo at the start right?

will be back later to look at some filters in more detail.

tbh I am super looking forward to see, who the suspects are going to want to lynch themselves.

Super townie sentence. Rest of the post is ok.

On December 21 2016 21:26 disformation wrote:
especially after slam looks a lot better now.

shows he uses PoE in his head.


On December 22 2016 01:06 disformation wrote:
So looking at filters for votes and stuff. part 1.

LS (see my last post): looks more town than scum. not impossible to be scum. like if his partner is on exo and slam is town, he could have been trying to come up with a decent reason to not be on the same wagon. but I dont think his behaviour/tone match up with that.

Slam starts pushing and voting Rels over Rels having a strange/wrong read on me. Rels rectifies his read on me and points out a pretty scummy post by me. Slam votes me and just returns b4 the deadline. still would liked for him to say something about why he was voting me, but in context it makes sense.

I loved that part from the LS read here. Again shows that he in his head is putting a lot of value in the Vote Analysis.

If you read the dark tournamenet filter you'll see that these types of posts is actually what he does as scum. General nice looking posts about the game and that fits with the thread leaders'view of the game. I was pocketed for the entire game in Dark Tournament and I'm seeing this in this game
k let me show you

oh boi.
Teach me sensei.
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Koshi
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December 22 2016 10:34 GMT
#1054
On December 22 2016 19:32 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2016 18:29 Rels wrote:
disfo. I wanna talk about how you read my entire filter to see if I talked about Kmatt but missed the two psots where (1) I ask you about it and (2) I read the filter and said my mind about it

I think I remembered it coming up which was why I was looking for it, but for some reason I missed your answer on it.

It was late, I got sloppy, I fucked up, sorry.
But dont you think I would be more careful as scum? =D

No I hate that excuse.
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Koshi
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December 22 2016 10:34 GMT
#1056
and it is not even true. People fuck up reading as scum as well.
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Koshi
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December 22 2016 10:49 GMT
#1061
On December 22 2016 19:48 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2016 16:26 disformation wrote:
On August 11 2016 04:50 Lunaticman wrote:
So can we start speculating on who the two mafia buddies are if GB flips scum?

It feels like that is better than the whole thread being afk for 30 hours.

complaining about nothing going on, while doing nothing himself into gtfoing for 11h plus.
also there was actuslly kinda stuff going on, as hf pointed out.

classy as fuck.

you really need to stop these sarcastic/opportunistic attempts to make people look like mafia.

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Koshi
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December 22 2016 10:50 GMT
#1063
On December 22 2016 19:37 disformation wrote:
Yeah it was an attempt at a joke (hence the smiley) cause:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2016 07:34 Rels wrote:
On December 21 2016 07:31 Koshi wrote:
On December 21 2016 07:29 Koshi wrote:
On December 21 2016 07:26 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 21 2016 07:25 Koshi wrote:
On December 21 2016 07:23 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 21 2016 07:21 Koshi wrote:
On December 21 2016 07:20 LightningStrike wrote:
Guys I really do think Slam is the better lynch here over ExO since I had read some of ExO's past games and ExO seems to be playing his town meta and Slam hasn't done much other than agreeing with people on stuff outside of his talk about rels and some stuff in that post but that was it. We should really lynch Slam over ExO due to my reasoning.

LS give me your top 4 names that could be mafia please.

Slam, Kmatt, sicklucker if doesn't prove he is town by day 3, then idk honestly I been asking people what the case was on dis since everyone talked about him being scummy and all but no one mention a case.

I think Rels is more likely mafia than sicklucker. Maybe.

Hmm why you don't like Rels? I might of skimmed over it when I did my catch up post.

He is a dumbass.

For example when he was defending disinformation with a completely retarded reason which on top of that was incorrect because he didn't read carefully enough.

Problem is I think the entity rels/sicklucker is more likely both town than both mafia. But 1 mafia/1 retarded seems more likely.

You think I'm more careful as town than as scum ?


Good joke. My mistake.
Anger reaches my brain faster and blocks out other inputs.
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Koshi
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December 22 2016 10:53 GMT
#1064
On December 22 2016 19:45 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2016 19:32 disformation wrote:
On December 22 2016 18:29 Rels wrote:
disfo. I wanna talk about how you read my entire filter to see if I talked about Kmatt but missed the two psots where (1) I ask you about it and (2) I read the filter and said my mind about it

I think I remembered it coming up which was why I was looking for it, but for some reason I missed your answer on it.

It was late, I got sloppy, I fucked up, sorry.
But dont you think I would be more careful as scum? =D

Funny dude. I'm writing a big post on you. Light my lantern on one thing please: why did you find Kmatt townie during the early game, he's in one of your town list, you liked my post about him being townie, then when HF mentionned him before deadline you reread his filter but suddenly he's almost as scummy as exo, who is super scummy in your mind ?

If you are writing a town case add that into it. I am extremely sad I didn't take more time to read Kmatt EoD1 and got wrongfully focused on Slam.
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Koshi
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December 22 2016 10:55 GMT
#1065
Also why is it wrong to read Kmatt his filter and think he is scummy?
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Koshi
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December 22 2016 10:55 GMT
#1066
Can you explain that Rels?
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Koshi
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December 22 2016 10:56 GMT
#1067
Like... I really am afraid of the fact Rels operates under the assumption Kmatt is town.
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Koshi
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December 22 2016 10:57 GMT
#1068
And Rels literally has 2 posts in his filter stating he was wrong on Kmatt and that Kmatt looked townie... So how he is now accusing Disformation for thinking Kmatt was town early and then mafia later on is just beyond my comprehension.

Who did not think Kmatt was potential town and now thinks the guy is mafia as fuck?
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Koshi
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December 22 2016 10:59 GMT
#1071
On December 22 2016 19:58 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2016 19:55 Koshi wrote:
Also why is it wrong to read Kmatt his filter and think he is scummy?

Cause he read his fitler and finds it townie. Then Kmatt had a good big post. Then way later HF mentions that he might be willing to swithc to Kmatt. Then disfo rereads his filter and finds Kmatt scummy but not-quite up to exo level.

Yes and?

You did the same thing. Exactly the same.
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Koshi
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December 22 2016 11:01 GMT
#1073
On December 22 2016 19:58 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2016 19:49 Rels wrote:
On December 22 2016 19:48 disformation wrote:
On December 22 2016 19:45 Rels wrote:
On December 22 2016 19:32 disformation wrote:
On December 22 2016 18:29 Rels wrote:
disfo. I wanna talk about how you read my entire filter to see if I talked about Kmatt but missed the two psots where (1) I ask you about it and (2) I read the filter and said my mind about it

I think I remembered it coming up which was why I was looking for it, but for some reason I missed your answer on it.

It was late, I got sloppy, I fucked up, sorry.
But dont you think I would be more careful as scum? =D

Funny dude. I'm writing a big post on you. Light my lantern on one thing please: why did you find Kmatt townie during the early game, he's in one of your town list, you liked my post about him being townie, then when HF mentionned him before deadline you reread his filter but suddenly he's almost as scummy as exo, who is super scummy in your mind ?

[scum]
Kmatt

Rels
SL
LS
[town]

Though I am currently somewhat confused by you tbh.

This is not an answer to the question

Actually you asked multiple questions and I had to go back and remember my thoughts at the time.

I think my early stuff on Kmatt was based on that I didn't like ExO_ and that gave Kmatt a good chance at being decently town. In the list you referring to, Kmatt is even still at the bottom of town.
I liked his wall you liked his wall. I think everyone did so.

Near EoD when HF brings him up I realize that he basically has done nothing, but pushing ExO_. I even remember talking to HF about that being more likely scum than town. Kmatt also had super bad posts around EoD.

EXACTLY. exactly how it happened in my head as well. ExO decided to be a scummy fucker and I wrongfully made his counterpart town for that.
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Koshi
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December 22 2016 11:03 GMT
#1074
On December 22 2016 20:00 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2016 19:59 Koshi wrote:
On December 22 2016 19:58 Rels wrote:
On December 22 2016 19:55 Koshi wrote:
Also why is it wrong to read Kmatt his filter and think he is scummy?

Cause he read his fitler and finds it townie. Then Kmatt had a good big post. Then way later HF mentions that he might be willing to swithc to Kmatt. Then disfo rereads his filter and finds Kmatt scummy but not-quite up to exo level.

Yes and?

You did the same thing. Exactly the same.

What I didn't do is follow that pattern in every post of my filter

lol
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Koshi
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December 22 2016 11:05 GMT
#1075
If this case on disformation is nothing more than massive reaching and trying to convince yourself he is mafia just pretend you deleted it right before you pressed "post".
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Koshi
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December 22 2016 11:18 GMT
#1078
On December 22 2016 20:12 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2016 20:05 Koshi wrote:
If this case on disformation is nothing more than massive reaching and trying to convince yourself he is mafia just pretend you deleted it right before you pressed "post".

The more I'm quoting stuff the more I'm convinced. Disfo actions were always after someone else did something. He has no idea what to do and he's copying
It's actually possible to match almost every one of his posts with a post by someone else that was made before.

Ok. If that is true. Maybe he is mafia.
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Koshi
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December 22 2016 11:19 GMT
#1079
On December 22 2016 20:18 Holyflare wrote:
Let the man do his work

I am impatient.
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Koshi
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December 22 2016 12:07 GMT
#1089
On December 22 2016 21:02 Holyflare wrote:
Yeh I see no point putting in any work when you scum read someone and they just decide to afk for the cycle. That's not fun.

I was thinking about the sl thing tbh. Kmatt posted in his wall of text that sl is scummy and should be lynched if exo flips town but hasn't said a peep about sl or anything. Find it a bit odd.

But I guess he hasn't been here at all either sooooo.

Your certainty + lack of finding other mafia is disturbing.

Maybe you are mafia after all.
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Koshi
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December 22 2016 12:11 GMT
#1093
Ok. Good strategy as scum imo.
Really well executed as well.

Just copy literally every good idea and you do as much as all other people combined.
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Koshi
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December 22 2016 12:13 GMT
#1094
##Vote disformation

Sure why not.
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Koshi
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December 22 2016 12:25 GMT
#1101
Lighteningstrike is an easy option as well.
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Koshi
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December 22 2016 12:25 GMT
#1103
##unvote

I can't keep this up.

##vote Lighteningstrike
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Koshi
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December 22 2016 12:26 GMT
#1105
On December 22 2016 21:25 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2016 21:07 Koshi wrote:
On December 22 2016 21:02 Holyflare wrote:
Yeh I see no point putting in any work when you scum read someone and they just decide to afk for the cycle. That's not fun.

I was thinking about the sl thing tbh. Kmatt posted in his wall of text that sl is scummy and should be lynched if exo flips town but hasn't said a peep about sl or anything. Find it a bit odd.

But I guess he hasn't been here at all either sooooo.

Your certainty + lack of finding other mafia is disturbing.

Maybe you are mafia after all.


What posts of mine have sounded certain? I literally even posted I hope he comes back and is super towny.

It's ok. I am just saying random things.
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Koshi
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December 22 2016 12:38 GMT
#1107
what do you mean?
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December 22 2016 12:45 GMT
#1111
On December 22 2016 21:42 disformation wrote:
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On December 22 2016 03:59 LightningStrike wrote:
Sorry I was just way to pissed off that ExO still got lynched despite me and Koshi tried to start the wagon on Slam :\ I fine with a Kmatt lynch since Slam does look a bit better post lynch. Kmatt's early game talk is so weird around sicklucker which me and HF pointed out. Hopefully this game will get easier tonight.

Why did LS want to lynch slam together with Koshi and not Kmatt with HF then EoD? Like yes he thought Slam was the betterest lynch, but he was super hard defending ExO_... so if slam wasnt happening, wouldnt try to get 5 on kmatt instead make sense?
He even has Kmatt in his PoE?
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On December 21 2016 07:23 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 21 2016 07:21 Koshi wrote:
On December 21 2016 07:20 LightningStrike wrote:
Guys I really do think Slam is the better lynch here over ExO since I had read some of ExO's past games and ExO seems to be playing his town meta and Slam hasn't done much other than agreeing with people on stuff outside of his talk about rels and some stuff in that post but that was it. We should really lynch Slam over ExO due to my reasoning.

LS give me your top 4 names that could be mafia please.

Slam, Kmatt, sicklucker if doesn't prove he is town by day 3, then idk honestly I been asking people what the case was on dis since everyone talked about him being scummy and all but no one mention a case.


Oh. He disappeared like 2h - 2h30 b4 deadline and returns shortly after:
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On December 21 2016 10:45 LightningStrike wrote:
Okay I had gone out with my parents for some shopping and figured ExO was town on meta yet no one listened to me

Though that is quite a convenient post to make for scum too...

Still he missed HF suggesting:
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On December 21 2016 08:26 Holyflare wrote:
I think we should lynch kmatt, that re-entry to the thread and saying nothing annoys me

by 15 mins...

*sigh*
yeah I dunno I just want to see kmatt and LS come back and post a bunch. -.-

Yes, he always said he didn't want to lynch Exo. But I think he didn't really push for a lynchtarget himself. Just saying he was sure ExO was not mafia.

Without doubt LS didn't scumhunt enough D1.
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Koshi
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December 22 2016 12:46 GMT
#1112
On December 22 2016 21:45 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2016 21:38 Koshi wrote:
what do you mean?

still think it is kmatt + x.
dont see ls making that post if ls is x.

buuuut thats also getting into the area of preflip association. so I think I should stop that.

think it would be better for me to decide who the 2nd most scummy person after kmatt is.

didnt someone say that LS posts way less as scum? can anyone confirm?

What if Kmatt is not mafia and it is Rels + LS?
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Koshi
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December 22 2016 12:48 GMT
#1115
It is wrong that Rels does not want to touch Kmatt and is just pushing another lynch like a madman. Reminds me of my mafia games. I look town, I push some random smuck nobody really believes is mafia, but then on D3 they believe me and lynch my smuck.


Rels is doing that. He doesn't really is open about Kmatt, calls him mafia as easily as town, and then is pushing his ml in disformation.
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Koshi
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December 22 2016 12:49 GMT
#1116
On December 22 2016 21:47 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2016 21:25 Koshi wrote:
##unvote

I can't keep this up.

##vote Lighteningstrike

I saw two posts that I think are pretty hard for scum!LS to make.
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2016 04:36 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 22 2016 04:34 Holyflare wrote:
On December 22 2016 04:32 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 22 2016 04:12 Koshi wrote:
On December 22 2016 03:59 LightningStrike wrote:
Sorry I was just way to pissed off that ExO still got lynched despite me and Koshi tried to start the wagon on Slam :\ I fine with a Kmatt lynch since Slam does look a bit better post lynch. Kmatt's early game talk is so weird around sicklucker which me and HF pointed out. Hopefully this game will get easier tonight.

Rels is going to go ham.

What you mean by going to go ham?


He typod. He meant he's going to get ham from the supermarket.

You sure he meant that?

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On December 22 2016 05:14 LightningStrike wrote:
I think you just were trolling me HF -.-

These. This is his personality. If he was scum and working on imitating his town meta I don't think he would be able to replicate his natural naivety.

Ofc he can. Being mafia doesn't remove that at all.
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Koshi
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December 22 2016 12:50 GMT
#1117
I am going to stop doing shit activily.

This is my scumteam:

Rels/LS
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Koshi
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December 22 2016 12:57 GMT
#1122
Being mafia does not remove naive posting.

It could be that being mafia causes extreme anxiousness and then the naivety kinda gets absorbed/removed. But LS is under 0 scrutiny this game so your reasoning sucks.
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Koshi
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December 22 2016 13:09 GMT
#1125
4 names. Those need to do stuff.
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Koshi
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December 22 2016 14:43 GMT
#1147
so real
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Koshi
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December 22 2016 14:45 GMT
#1149
I want to lynch Rels
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Koshi
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December 22 2016 14:45 GMT
#1151
Well I can't do much in this bad town.
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Koshi
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December 22 2016 15:39 GMT
#1201
Lynch Rels. He is mafia.

##unvote
##vote Rels
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Koshi
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December 22 2016 15:39 GMT
#1202
It's Rels and LS.
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Koshi
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December 22 2016 15:42 GMT
#1204
On December 23 2016 00:30 Kmatt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2016 00:27 disformation wrote:
Soooo... trying to play super hard for the newb card?


In my defense it's my second game and first town. And at no point do I claim to be good at this game.

Don't worry. Just find mafia. Just keep typing stuff why you think people are mafia. Just do that. Ignore the dumbasses.

Protip: Rels and LS are mafia so just focus on those.
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Koshi
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December 22 2016 15:43 GMT
#1205
On December 23 2016 00:41 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2016 00:39 Koshi wrote:
It's Rels and LS.

Me and Rels being partners? Oh please where you got this idea from?

There is nothing that connects you 2 except that you are both mafia.
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Koshi
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December 22 2016 15:48 GMT
#1206
##unvote
##vote LightningStrike


Rels might just be massive pants on head. You are mafia for sure.
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Koshi
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December 22 2016 15:51 GMT
#1210
On December 23 2016 00:48 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2016 00:43 Koshi wrote:
On December 23 2016 00:41 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 23 2016 00:39 Koshi wrote:
It's Rels and LS.

Me and Rels being partners? Oh please where you got this idea from?

There is nothing that connects you 2 except that you are both mafia.

Then how would we be partners if ther enothing that connects us? Also if he was my partner why would he townread so hard the way he been doing it? I think this picture describes your perfectly:
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Why haven't you bothered to find mafia this game LS? I thought you wanted to help me make town great again? You have done nothing. Even your D1 vote Slam just happened because I on that moment wanted to lynch Slam, if I wanted to lynch anybody else you would have went with that probably.

Where is your scumhunting? Where is your read progression?

Even on ExO. There is no progression. It is just you using meta and sticking to that.
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Koshi
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December 22 2016 15:51 GMT
#1211
On December 23 2016 00:51 LightningStrike wrote:
Also where is your case on me fool? I don't see anyways Ithink you suffering from tin foil hat syndrome. Maybe take your tinfoil hat off.

hahahahahhaahahahaha
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Koshi
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December 22 2016 15:52 GMT
#1213
On December 23 2016 00:50 LightningStrike wrote:
Keep amusing me Koshi I am not getting lynched today we lynching Kmatt or no lynch.

Is he your partner?
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Koshi
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December 22 2016 16:01 GMT
#1227
On December 23 2016 00:52 Kmatt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2016 00:51 Koshi wrote:
On December 23 2016 00:48 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 23 2016 00:43 Koshi wrote:
On December 23 2016 00:41 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 23 2016 00:39 Koshi wrote:
It's Rels and LS.

Me and Rels being partners? Oh please where you got this idea from?

There is nothing that connects you 2 except that you are both mafia.

Then how would we be partners if ther enothing that connects us? Also if he was my partner why would he townread so hard the way he been doing it? I think this picture describes your perfectly:
[image loading]

Why haven't you bothered to find mafia this game LS? I thought you wanted to help me make town great again? You have done nothing. Even your D1 vote Slam just happened because I on that moment wanted to lynch Slam, if I wanted to lynch anybody else you would have went with that probably.

Where is your scumhunting? Where is your read progression?

Even on ExO. There is no progression. It is just you using meta and sticking to that.


I can see why you don't like LS this late in but why Rels? I saw a few people comment on him as I got caught up.

I have already explained it but I will repeat because I have said a lot of random things already as well:

- Rels is mafia because he is more likely pushing a mafia agenda over a town agenda. As you can see, he is pushing disformation for a while now, and his latest case (albeit it not being bad, but mafia can make an ok case from time to time) is a great example of how a mafia is solely able to focus on 1 thing to both look town and further the mafia agenda.

Rels is missing key ingredients in his play that make him town, this is a bit harder to explain but a townie most of the time is able to discuss multiple things at the same time and can freely discuss his reads and ideas over a game. Rels has not yet shown this. He isn't playing bad as mafia but he is not able to really look town.

The best thing is his waffle on Disformation D1, how he townread him but not really, how hard he sold his towncase while it was pretty bad and just based on 1 thing that was even incorrect. But then when he saw the opportunity to call disformation mafia he took it and is simply not letting go anymore.

I can give more reasoning over why he is more likely mafia over town. But I am pretty sure we are reaching a point in which he is not town anymore. For example during the night. Him calling me mafia in case he died so dramatically showed that he had 0 feeling with what was really happening in this game. As town, he would never feel that, that was super unnatural.
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Koshi
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December 22 2016 16:03 GMT
#1229
On December 23 2016 01:00 LightningStrike wrote:
I alreadyede listed who else I thought were scum sicker probably and you if you happen to live Day 3+ you are a very good player by reputation HF.

Again. Another read with 0 fucking progression. You are skipping the road to gathering reads LS.
Try to work on that next time you roll mafia.

Every read you have is from nothing to a definitive read. As town you actually try to figure out stuff on your own. You are not doing that.
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Koshi
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December 22 2016 16:04 GMT
#1231
##unvote
##vote Rels and fucking LS


BOTH ARE MAFIA
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Koshi
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December 22 2016 16:05 GMT
#1232
Game over. If you dumbasses lynch Kmatt it is on you.
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Koshi
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December 22 2016 16:10 GMT
#1236
On December 23 2016 01:08 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2016 01:03 Koshi wrote:
On December 23 2016 01:00 LightningStrike wrote:
I alreadyede listed who else I thought were scum sicker probably and you if you happen to live Day 3+ you are a very good player by reputation HF.

Again. Another read with 0 fucking progression. You are skipping the road to gathering reads LS.
Try to work on that next time you roll mafia.

Every read you have is from nothing to a definitive read. As town you actually try to figure out stuff on your own. You are not doing that.

I did try to figure shit out on my own with ExO again you ignored that -.- I had sicklucker as poental scum for the most part of the game? HF is a good player as I had lost to him as scum often enough I do respect his scum skills.

WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU EVEN DARE TO SAY.

I LITERALLY SAID: I DO NOT WANT TO LYNCH EXO BECAUSE I RESPECT LS HIS META READ.


You are mafia.

##unvote
##vote Lighteningstrike
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Koshi
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December 22 2016 16:13 GMT
#1240
On December 23 2016 01:09 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2016 01:07 Holyflare wrote:
On December 23 2016 01:00 LightningStrike wrote:
I alreadyede listed who else I thought were scum sicker probably and you if you happen to live Day 3+ you are a very good player by reputation HF.


So even though I "mind melded" with you and pushed the person non-stop who you think is definitely mafia and you agree with on a lot of things, I'm the potential mafia instead of somebody else? slam/disformation/rels??


we didn't mind meld?

Why is HF bussing his partner since D1? It is possible because he didn't actually went throught with Kmatt. But he is your main scumread for D3? What about Rels? You haven't commented on anything.

Nha I cba. You are my vote till EoD.
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Koshi
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December 22 2016 16:13 GMT
#1241
Kmatt

Get your ASS IN THIS THREAD

AND DO SHIT
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Koshi
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December 22 2016 17:01 GMT
#1250
@Kmatt

Now that you have rightfully joined the wagon of justice and proofed you are at least better than 4 other people in this game. Can you look into sicklucker and Rels more in depth. Can they be mafia together?

Don't worry about disformation or Alakaslam. They are lock town.
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Koshi
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December 22 2016 17:15 GMT
#1256
On December 23 2016 02:11 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2016 02:01 Koshi wrote:
@Kmatt

Now that you have rightfully joined the wagon of justice and proofed you are at least better than 4 other people in this game. Can you look into sicklucker and Rels more in depth. Can they be mafia together?

Don't worry about disformation or Alakaslam. They are lock town.

Can you walk me through Kmatt? I'm pretty conflicted.

my eyes dont bleed blood when I read his filter. So he does better than 2 people in this game.
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Koshi
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December 22 2016 17:28 GMT
#1261
On December 23 2016 02:21 Kmatt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2016 02:17 disformation wrote:
On December 23 2016 02:14 Kmatt wrote:
On December 23 2016 02:13 sicklucker wrote:
can we lynch both of them? hedge are bets


That won't really work due to majority lynch. Either you bandwagon me or we all jump ship to LS.

See with posts like this i kinda feel he is just completely lost in this game without teammates / a coach.

Like is that possible to fake?


How am I "lost"? I mean I can entertain the thought of being seen as scum, but passing on a lynch is always bad, right?

If we lynch without confidence there's a low% chance that we ML. If we don't lynch at all there's a 0% chance of hitting scum, and mafia won't NK themselves either.

ignore the scrubs that are not on LS.

Can you tell me why Rels and Sicklucker are not a mafia team?
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Koshi
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December 22 2016 22:01 GMT
#1273
On December 23 2016 05:10 Holyflare wrote:
I mean koshi you're all over the place on rels/ls but you're going to ignore the fact that kmatt has lied about the night thing potentially since he's actually posted at night and played a game here before while posting at night.

He had no scum reads because he forgot his actual list. I had to remind him of sicklucker which he drops like a lead balloon for absolutely 0 reason despite maintaining it's scummy?

He mentions me as a scum read but hops on any wagon possible despite TOWN READING ls on day 1 and then making a throwaway comment to hop on.

He leaves the thread after doing nothing.

So much shit here.

In all honesty. I started the day doing random shit because I didn't want a stale day waiting for a guy that might not show up. Wasting us a day.

I don't know where we are now.

My own feelings say Rels/LS but it makes more sense it is LS/Kmatt.





Problem is that both sicklucker and Rels are pointing fingers at 2 people I think are town (hf & disfo) and somewhere I can see them be a team very maybe? Even though the more logical solution is both town? If 1 of them is mafia the other one is playing really badly I think.

atm I don't see hf or disfo be mafia. hf based on activity and game progressing. disfo based on his last 160 posts. If they are mafia I am ok with losing to them because they simply played way better than the average townie.
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Koshi
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December 22 2016 22:12 GMT
#1275
LS is mafia because he is doing what a lot of "bad" mafia players do. Which is create very strong reads at random points through the game and focus solely on those reads. But never really showing progression or evolution in their reads.

Rels is playing really strong mafia and I can only call him mafia because I think he pushes mafia agenda. He ignores too many important moments, he has waffled , he has shown stupidity in how he reads people, and he has not convinced me of a single read so far. Or shown me something I agreed with, something original, even something small. Last time we were town together I could easily talk to him and feel progression in my head. This time we just fight. I don't think this is town Rels. I have already shown examples of everything I said here. But I can repeat.




Kmatt is thougher. But I don't see the mafia agenda yet and I don't have meta. I think he is not "molded" yet by our playstyle. He brings his own game and I don't know if that game is mafia, it might just be not so good town. For example the overreaction after the flip into the silence kinda fits the fact he thought he could give a small reaction and then had to be silent for 24h. Also the fact that he just leaves for 24hours fits the "bad" vibe we get. Did he really decide to lie about this as mafia? I don't think so. I just think he is being honest. And tbh, I felt he was the townie person in the ExO vs Kmat thing at the start. Maybe they were both town and it showed more on Kmatt?

Like... I can't really pin down anything scummy on Kmatt except odd and bad play. But in my world hopping on this LS wagon is pro town. That changes when LS flips town but I don't think he will.
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Koshi
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December 22 2016 22:16 GMT
#1276
Also the first time I called LS mafia during the night, when he went from biggest townread to mafia read, and I said "sorry buddy", he ignored me. I think mafia shot me and he hoped I would go away.

The second time he reacted to me, not so long ago, he was instantly combative and a bit mean, he didn't try to salvage our relation but instead tried to discredit me. Which felt really off.



So for me LS is lock mafia atm. Second one I don't know yet. Disformation and Sicklucker had a moment somewhere in the thread, right before I voted ExO. I think those 2 were helping each other progress their reads, it felt TvT.
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Koshi
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December 23 2016 09:50 GMT
#1321
I am pretty sure Kmatt is town. Oh well.

It is too difficult to herd people and on the same time create an environment to find mafia. The one conflicts with the other.


Still not sure who the mafia beside LS is. It's too difficult seeing if you are shitplayer or mafia. I'll let you know endgame.
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Koshi
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December 23 2016 09:51 GMT
#1322
I am going to assume it is sl over rels now.

Based on spite.
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Koshi
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December 23 2016 10:01 GMT
#1323
95% LS is mafia.

30% sl is mafia
26% rels is mafia
20% HF is mafia
12% disformation is mafia
12% slam is mafia
5% Kmatt is mafia


100% you people are horrible players. Xcept slam and disformation.
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Koshi
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December 23 2016 10:24 GMT
#1326
See why do you understand what that means? But sl and rels just ignore it.
Lowest tier players.
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Koshi
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December 23 2016 10:25 GMT
#1327
On December 23 2016 08:58 Alakaslam wrote:
I am thinking SL Rels but let me catch up. It seems Kmatt and LS are the ones up RN for some rsn?

This guy deserves a medal and is the best player in this game btw. I hope he gets the trophy if for some reason town wins it. Just for this comment.
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Koshi
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December 23 2016 11:49 GMT
#1338
lol
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December 23 2016 11:49 GMT
#1339
On December 23 2016 20:48 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2016 19:25 Koshi wrote:
On December 23 2016 08:58 Alakaslam wrote:
I am thinking SL Rels but let me catch up. It seems Kmatt and LS are the ones up RN for some rsn?

This guy deserves a medal and is the best player in this game btw. I hope he gets the trophy if for some reason town wins it. Just for this comment.


but he voted kmatt

everybody has flaws.
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Koshi
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December 23 2016 12:00 GMT
#1341
btw SL is always mafia over Rels. That is pretty sure. Maybe they are both mafia. But SL is always mafia over Rels.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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December 23 2016 12:00 GMT
#1343
On December 23 2016 10:42 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2016 10:10 Rels wrote:
On December 23 2016 00:39 Koshi wrote:
Lynch Rels. He is mafia.

##unvote
##vote Rels

Come on. We finally had a moment where we talked about something this morning and you're back to THIS
You're very very very annoying this game. The worst thing is that I don't even think you're a likely scum. At all. And that annoys me the most.


he woundlt be koshi if he was not terrible tunneling some town. usually its me feels bad man

This is antagonizing me + buddying Rels.

He does the first as mafia. I remember.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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December 23 2016 12:01 GMT
#1345
I wish Slam was also here. I like Slam.
Probably sleeping
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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December 23 2016 12:04 GMT
#1346
I am extremely certain LS is mafia. But I am currently equally certain I want to lynch SL.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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December 23 2016 12:11 GMT
#1348
sl has more than enough content. You also need to read his posts ofc.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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December 23 2016 12:12 GMT
#1350
more is less
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Koshi
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December 23 2016 12:23 GMT
#1353
On December 23 2016 21:22 Holyflare wrote:
jesus christ this would be the easiest mafia win of my life

Not true because LS and SL would actually play the game.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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December 23 2016 14:00 GMT
#1356
fun times.
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Koshi
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December 23 2016 14:00 GMT
#1357
Maybe you want to put your vote on sl.
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Koshi
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December 23 2016 14:49 GMT
#1359
On December 23 2016 23:18 LightningStrike wrote:
I would if people would be willing to him but currently you guys want to lynch so be it.

I want to lynch you. Why are you ignoring me and my cases on you?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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December 23 2016 14:57 GMT
#1361
Like... I just want you to play the game. And not do this babyrage angry thing you are pulling off.

1) I started making cases on you during the night. Why did you ignore it while you were fully caught up and posting about the game.


2) Why are you trying to discredit my Rels/LS scumbuddy theory based on the trueness of the full theory?
On December 23 2016 00:48 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2016 00:43 Koshi wrote:
On December 23 2016 00:41 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 23 2016 00:39 Koshi wrote:
It's Rels and LS.

Me and Rels being partners? Oh please where you got this idea from?

There is nothing that connects you 2 except that you are both mafia.

Then how would we be partners if ther enothing that connects us? Also if he was my partner why would he townread so hard the way he been doing it? I think this picture describes your perfectly:
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You are not even trying to convince me you are not mafia, you are just telling me that you and Rels are not mafia together and that I am crazy... Why? Why can't you just play the game and explain to me why you are not mafia and why Rels is not mafia or w.e. Why do you have to be so final again?

3) How you entered the thread this time. Why can't you comment on any of the cases I made on Rels/LS/SL/Kmatt? Why vote yourself? Why not just fucking proof you are not mafia and the mafia is within Rels/Kmatt/SL?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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December 23 2016 14:58 GMT
#1362
On December 23 2016 23:57 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2016 23:49 Koshi wrote:
On December 23 2016 23:18 LightningStrike wrote:
I would if people would be willing to him but currently you guys want to lynch so be it.

I want to lynch you. Why are you ignoring me and my cases on you?

FUCK YOU i TOLD WHY i NOT DEFENDING MYSELF YOU JACKASS CAN'T YOU FUCKING READ?

I think responses like this are just funny.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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December 23 2016 14:59 GMT
#1364
rawr rawr
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Koshi
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December 23 2016 15:00 GMT
#1366
In a fire?
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Koshi
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December 23 2016 15:02 GMT
#1368
The cool part is, if you are mafia, this is hilarious. And you probably are layghing pretty hard yourself as well.

and if you are town, you are so in the wrong with your behavior here I will be able to hold that over your head for a long time.



I hope you are mafia though.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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December 23 2016 15:03 GMT
#1369
On December 24 2016 00:01 LightningStrike wrote:
IN THE DEEP PITS OF HELL YOU SHALL DIE THERE

I currently live there already. My punishment is to play mafia with you guys
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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December 23 2016 15:04 GMT
#1371
On December 24 2016 00:03 LightningStrike wrote:
I NOT FUCKING MAFIA AND YOU KNOW I ONLY VOTE MYSELF AS TOWN YOU IDIOT

Don't you think it is pretty lame to confirm yourself town like this? It's against the spirit of the game.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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December 23 2016 15:07 GMT
#1374
On December 24 2016 00:05 LightningStrike wrote:
IT NOT A LAME WAY TO DO IT

lol. It literally is posting a townie seal like coag did.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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December 23 2016 15:16 GMT
#1375
On December 24 2016 00:03 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2016 00:01 LightningStrike wrote:
IN THE DEEP PITS OF HELL YOU SHALL DIE THERE

I currently live there already. My punishment is to play mafia with you guys

I wish I would die. But I am forced to queue game after game.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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December 23 2016 15:17 GMT
#1376
On December 24 2016 00:16 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2016 00:03 Koshi wrote:
On December 24 2016 00:01 LightningStrike wrote:
IN THE DEEP PITS OF HELL YOU SHALL DIE THERE

I currently live there already. My punishment is to play mafia with you guys

I wish I would die. But I am forced to queue game after game.

I am slowly losing my soul.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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December 23 2016 15:49 GMT
#1391
I like how sl is talking right besides LS. They are in the thread together alone, and sl just ignores him and votes him.

high level.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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December 23 2016 16:05 GMT
#1402
On December 24 2016 00:55 LightningStrike wrote:
Anyone want to lynch sicklucker with me he still not doing anything other than being a troll he normally would tryhard at this point?

Sure. But you will need to convince others first. But you got my vote.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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December 23 2016 16:52 GMT
#1409
LS. Could you please post some freaking analysis on why we should lynch sicklucker? Like... Why are you not doing that this game. I do not understand why you ended up on sicklucker.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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December 23 2016 16:54 GMT
#1411
On December 24 2016 01:12 disformation wrote:
i'm pretty pissed over ppl refusing to play the game.

pro tip: if ppl vote/suspect you. post better posts. or at least try to.

@hosts: i want a vig shot for christmas. doesnt matter if you shoot me or give me a shot.

The information is in the thread. 71 pages is fine.

It is annoying that they don't bleed town and make it us more easy. But I am pretty sure that if you know the answers and reread. It is possible to figure out the game.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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December 23 2016 16:58 GMT
#1414
On December 24 2016 01:53 LightningStrike wrote:
Aklso I sorry Koshi I ready to work with you and now trying to get others I was just way to pissed.

Sure. np.

Can you just show us some analysis and thought progression in your reads? This game you always were absolute in every read. You decided ExO was town on meta and you just ran with that, you never stood open for anything, you were superabsolute about your read. You never found mafia during D1, you just hopped with me on Slam.

During N1 you ignored me. Why?

During D2 you have been hostile towards the thread and you have not yet tried to figure out the game on your own. I can understand it sucks to be tired and sick but now is the time to shine.


20% is defending yourself.
80% is now finding a good lynch.


Have you read my analysis on Rels/Kmatt and sicklucker? What do you think?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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December 23 2016 16:59 GMT
#1416
On December 24 2016 01:55 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2016 01:52 Koshi wrote:
LS. Could you please post some freaking analysis on why we should lynch sicklucker? Like... Why are you not doing that this game. I do not understand why you ended up on sicklucker.

Well it's because no one wants Kmatt so I rather go to my 2nd scum which is sicklucker. The reason sicklucker is scum because
1. He didn't try hard at all even during the night which he normally starts tryharding as town.
2. The fact that he still haven't by this point tryharded and no really doing anything fits his scum where if he thinks one of his teammates are in trouble he stops which point when I was up for lynch he decided then to start posting. You saw this in Cell Millionaire and in our last game together Koshi.

about 2.

From what I remember sl plays as mafia only when it benefits him. So him starting to play now and not when Kmatt is up for lynch shows town is getting closer.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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December 23 2016 17:00 GMT
#1417
LS do you have any reasons to think HF being mafia? And not meta wise. Just from this thread.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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December 23 2016 17:06 GMT
#1418
And can you look really deep in your soul and tell me why you really raged earlier?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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December 23 2016 17:10 GMT
#1419
On December 21 2016 06:35 Koshi wrote:
Hmm cool. 3 people thinking LS is odd at the same time. Interesting

On December 21 2016 06:36 sicklucker wrote:
well thats probably because LS is mafia.

Well I have things in my head telling me ls is mafia. But I also have things in my head telling me hes town

On December 21 2016 06:37 sicklucker wrote:
I remember ls is a less active mafia. which is hard to judge since hes not that active as town but there is a noticeable difference. here he claims to be sick


lael
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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December 23 2016 17:11 GMT
#1420
3 cool people were Koshi, HF and Exo btw.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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December 23 2016 17:16 GMT
#1425
On December 24 2016 02:13 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2016 02:06 Koshi wrote:
And can you look really deep in your soul and tell me why you really raged earlier?

Because I saw all the votes on me and couldn't be bothered to be rationale about it and let it all out on you. I now trying to find your stuff on Kmatt and sicklucker.

The correct answer was: "I was trying to cheat myself into getting an easy townread"

As both alignments tbh.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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December 23 2016 17:17 GMT
#1427
On December 24 2016 02:15 LightningStrike wrote:
Ugh I don't see anything about Kmatt past Day 1 Koshi or anything about why sicklucker is scum from you Koshi.

No I haven't typed anything about sl.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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December 23 2016 17:20 GMT
#1431
On December 24 2016 02:19 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2016 01:59 Koshi wrote:
On December 24 2016 01:55 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 24 2016 01:52 Koshi wrote:
LS. Could you please post some freaking analysis on why we should lynch sicklucker? Like... Why are you not doing that this game. I do not understand why you ended up on sicklucker.

Well it's because no one wants Kmatt so I rather go to my 2nd scum which is sicklucker. The reason sicklucker is scum because
1. He didn't try hard at all even during the night which he normally starts tryharding as town.
2. The fact that he still haven't by this point tryharded and no really doing anything fits his scum where if he thinks one of his teammates are in trouble he stops which point when I was up for lynch he decided then to start posting. You saw this in Cell Millionaire and in our last game together Koshi.

about 2.

From what I remember sl plays as mafia only when it benefits him. So him starting to play now and not when Kmatt is up for lynch shows town is getting closer.

Exactly we should vote him then!

But why? There is still no proof in this thread except PoE and gut feelings.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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December 23 2016 17:22 GMT
#1432
On December 24 2016 02:16 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2016 02:14 Holyflare wrote:
Ls why do you think kmatt is still definitely mafia after he's dumb telled twice?

I can see mafia dumb tell shit espcally from MD who dumb telled a couple of times in Stars Wars The Mafia Awaken hence why despite his dumb tells he could still be mafia.

You think he posted 3 names intentionally as mafia day 3 and then only when somebody said there were 2 mafia he went for the credit? Impressive plays.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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December 23 2016 17:23 GMT
#1433
EBWOP

I meant D1. He posted 3 names for mafia D1 when he was under no pressure, to use that dumbtell D2 when he was under pressure.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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December 23 2016 17:24 GMT
#1436
You realize you are saying that you are his teammate right?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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December 23 2016 17:34 GMT
#1440
I don't know atm.
The problem is. I don't think there is anything you can do to make me change my read.

Due to SL his silly buddy attempt on Rels I don't think they are a team anymore.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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December 23 2016 18:14 GMT
#1466
On December 24 2016 03:08 disformation wrote:
so.
ls makes sense as scum here if it is like exactly kmatt/ls?
problmem: if both are pants on head town just sits in their qt eating popcorn.
problem: if kmatt and ls are scum ill be super pissed if we loose to that.
problem: if we lynch them and they flip town i wont be happy either.

but voth have yet to give me stronk town vibes

It is between Rels/sl/LS

All others played well enough to not get lynched.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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December 23 2016 18:19 GMT
#1469
On December 24 2016 03:16 Holyflare wrote:
If ls is the meta god now I'm fine going ls into sl.

really? Why is ls town?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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December 23 2016 18:25 GMT
#1471
On December 24 2016 03:21 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2016 03:19 Koshi wrote:
On December 24 2016 03:16 Holyflare wrote:
If ls is the meta god now I'm fine going ls into sl.

really? Why is ls town?


Lynch order.

I don't get it? Why?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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December 23 2016 18:56 GMT
#1478
On December 24 2016 03:54 sicklucker wrote:
but ls probably spewing me town wooT

No you are both mafia.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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December 23 2016 18:58 GMT
#1482
no
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Koshi
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December 23 2016 18:59 GMT
#1483
pretty fucked up you are saying people don't play the game and you haven't read sl his filter and can't answer simple questions about him.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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December 23 2016 19:00 GMT
#1484
like... Only complain about activity when you are actually fucking caught up.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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December 23 2016 19:01 GMT
#1486
On December 24 2016 04:01 Holyflare wrote:
I dunno if disfo can be mafia but it makes sense to me.

what does?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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December 23 2016 21:24 GMT
#1494
actual scuminess + deserving to get lynched as town

1. LS
2. SL
3. Rels
4. Disformation
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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December 23 2016 23:06 GMT
#1496
I am sad nobody looked up if the babyrage was meta town for LS. I know he once fooled people doing something with caps lock but I can't imagine he did something like this as town before.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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December 23 2016 23:06 GMT
#1498
On December 24 2016 08:05 LightningStrike wrote:
Well gg wp I guess I getting lynched regardless what I tried say to you guys because you all are brickwalls.

Well. Brickwalls or mafia.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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December 23 2016 23:07 GMT
#1499
On December 24 2016 08:06 LightningStrike wrote:
Especially you Koshi you refused to listen to me when I did tried to talk to you.

I listened with open ears. But I didn't read any reason why I had to lynch sl except something meta like but I don't fully agree with it.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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December 23 2016 23:08 GMT
#1501
just leave some reads. Might consider them if I am not dead tomorrow.
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Koshi
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December 23 2016 23:09 GMT
#1505
On December 24 2016 08:08 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2016 08:07 Koshi wrote:
On December 24 2016 08:06 LightningStrike wrote:
Especially you Koshi you refused to listen to me when I did tried to talk to you.

I listened with open ears. But I didn't read any reason why I had to lynch sl except something meta like but I don't fully agree with it.

well you didn't act like it.

Well. There have been mafia in the past that defended even better than you did here. I don't know man.. 2 days into the game and I haven't seen you made posts that shows you are critically thinking about the game and furthering your reads step by step by information gathered in the thread. I think you are almost the only one.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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December 23 2016 23:10 GMT
#1506
On December 24 2016 08:09 LightningStrike wrote:
Oh and don't forget about Rels if he lives by about Day 5 just lynch him with fire.

pretty sure we lost by then. Why is disformation town?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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December 23 2016 23:11 GMT
#1507
Just make a list with all remaining players and your honoest opinion. You might get a lot of points for the championship thingie anyway.

I gtg.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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December 23 2016 23:11 GMT
#1509
On December 24 2016 08:11 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2016 08:09 Koshi wrote:
On December 24 2016 08:08 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 24 2016 08:07 Koshi wrote:
On December 24 2016 08:06 LightningStrike wrote:
Especially you Koshi you refused to listen to me when I did tried to talk to you.

I listened with open ears. But I didn't read any reason why I had to lynch sl except something meta like but I don't fully agree with it.

well you didn't act like it.

Well. There have been mafia in the past that defended even better than you did here. I don't know man.. 2 days into the game and I haven't seen you made posts that shows you are critically thinking about the game and furthering your reads step by step by information gathered in the thread. I think you are almost the only one.

I did try to scum hunt but you guys ignored it.

Maybe. It's ok. If you are town we are too blame as well. Believed mafia lies too easily.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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December 24 2016 00:47 GMT
#1533
Interesting sl came in 1 min after hf. I actually predected that.

Goddamn it will be hard to not lynch sl tomorrow.
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Koshi
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December 24 2016 00:57 GMT
#1540
You fucked up ls.
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Koshi
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December 24 2016 01:00 GMT
#1543
You babyraged as doc. Which doesnt make sense.
But if you still wanted to babyraged you should have babyraged being doc.
Or crumb it somewhere.

Now it just feels like an hollow attempt to go to kmatt due to nobody being here.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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December 24 2016 01:02 GMT
#1546
Like I said. It's ok to get lynched.
Just give your honest reads on all players and we will try to salvage this.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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December 24 2016 01:06 GMT
#1547
But there is no hair on my head that isnt convinced you are mafia. So I guess I am the worst player if you are town. But I have so many reasons to think tou are mafia. Insane.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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December 24 2016 01:06 GMT
#1549
Fucked.up.sl and hf disappeared...
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Koshi
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December 24 2016 01:08 GMT
#1550
On December 24 2016 10:06 LightningStrike wrote:
Koshi: Town self explaintory
Slam: Town looked better after the ExO lynch with his responses to koshi
rels: Scum if alive around Day 4/5: He a good player but he also did his own thing and made a decent case on disformation
HF: Scum if alive past Day 3 or the scum team is so shit because he should never be alive past Day 3 as town due to him being one of the best players in tl mafia history.
disformation: Probable mafia: See rels case it's decent enough.
Kmatt: Scum: Probably was coached on how to fake dumb tells his leaps on his reads and shit were so unnatural.
Sicklucker: Lynch with fire scum: See my meta case on sicklucker.

Damn. First possible townie thing I saw. Are you so mad everybody is scum?
Meh.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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December 24 2016 01:10 GMT
#1553
I am still convinced ls and sl are mafia.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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December 24 2016 01:12 GMT
#1557
I guess we could no lynch. It doesnt cost us a ml. The safe bought us this no lynch. And then battle.of blues tomorrow.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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December 24 2016 01:13 GMT
#1559
I almost.cant believe ls is not.mafia though.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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December 24 2016 01:17 GMT
#1567
It's disgusting but the right play to no lynch I guess. We dont lose a ml but wont gain one if ls is mafia.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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December 24 2016 01:20 GMT
#1573
On December 24 2016 10:18 Holyflare wrote:
50% of ls's reads are "if this guy is alive he's mafia"

The other 50% is questionable meta

But if he is doc it doesnt matter..
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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December 24 2016 01:22 GMT
#1579
It's nai you dumbass. Town medic would do the same after.saving me n1.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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December 24 2016 01:23 GMT
#1581
On December 24 2016 10:21 Holyflare wrote:
I'm ok lynching ls just because I feel appalled by his behaviour and won't let it stand

I am 99% certain he is mafia so w.e. Let's go for worst play in 2016.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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December 24 2016 01:25 GMT
#1585
On December 24 2016 10:23 sicklucker wrote:
hes literraly trying to bribe hf with something that wont matter at all.

Thats the most mafia thing in the world.

You are so incredibly bad but it is fine. You are probably mafia anyway. Regardless of how ls will flip.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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December 24 2016 01:29 GMT
#1591
I need.sleep.so this flip better is fast.
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Koshi
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December 24 2016 01:33 GMT
#1599
On December 24 2016 10:29 LightningStrike wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
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My rage was totally fake I wasn't really mad sorry if I offended anyone!

You are a great player my friend. Nice try. WP
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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December 24 2016 01:35 GMT
#1602
On December 24 2016 10:34 Holyflare wrote:
So kmatt is mafia?

sl is mafia. It's obvious.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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December 24 2016 01:36 GMT
#1604
I suggest in the spirit of Xmas there wont be a nk.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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December 24 2016 01:37 GMT
#1605
On December 24 2016 10:36 Holyflare wrote:
Either sl or kmatt same thing.

It's sl that needs to go first. No doubt.
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Koshi
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December 24 2016 01:47 GMT
#1612
The doc doesnt want to save tonight. Make sure your options are open for n3.
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Koshi
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December 24 2016 01:49 GMT
#1614
I made sick cases on Rels and LS in the mid of d2. And you came in the thread and antagonized me while buddying Rels. You lost me my tunnel on Rels and shift to focus on LS right there.

TY
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
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December 24 2016 01:55 GMT
#1617
Btw hf.

The doc claim was made to try to get some stranglers to Kmatt. There is no way he is mafia because if he busses kmatt like that the real doc just claims and ls dies.

So kmatt is now completely cleared.



And like I said. I predicted you would come in the thread first even though sicklucker was the last one to post before the claim.

So just lynch sicklucker and after that most likely Rels.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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December 24 2016 13:14 GMT
#1638
I am going to dienon Xmas. This is bullshit.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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December 24 2016 13:44 GMT
#1639
Btw smiley meta is real
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Koshi
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December 24 2016 13:49 GMT
#1640
Kmatt what does "painting green" means and how do you do that?
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Koshi
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December 24 2016 14:57 GMT
#1644
Yes like me.
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Koshi
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December 24 2016 15:03 GMT
#1645
I have a lot of reasons to think you are mafia sl. Really good ones. But let's go back to the point I thought I solved the game.
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Koshi
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December 24 2016 15:08 GMT
#1646
On December 23 2016 01:01 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2016 00:52 Kmatt wrote:
On December 23 2016 00:51 Koshi wrote:
On December 23 2016 00:48 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 23 2016 00:43 Koshi wrote:
On December 23 2016 00:41 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 23 2016 00:39 Koshi wrote:
It's Rels and LS.

Me and Rels being partners? Oh please where you got this idea from?

There is nothing that connects you 2 except that you are both mafia.

Then how would we be partners if ther enothing that connects us? Also if he was my partner why would he townread so hard the way he been doing it? I think this picture describes your perfectly:
[image loading]

Why haven't you bothered to find mafia this game LS? I thought you wanted to help me make town great again? You have done nothing. Even your D1 vote Slam just happened because I on that moment wanted to lynch Slam, if I wanted to lynch anybody else you would have went with that probably.

Where is your scumhunting? Where is your read progression?

Even on ExO. There is no progression. It is just you using meta and sticking to that.


I can see why you don't like LS this late in but why Rels? I saw a few people comment on him as I got caught up.

I have already explained it but I will repeat because I have said a lot of random things already as well:

- Rels is mafia because he is more likely pushing a mafia agenda over a town agenda. As you can see, he is pushing disformation for a while now, and his latest case (albeit it not being bad, but mafia can make an ok case from time to time) is a great example of how a mafia is solely able to focus on 1 thing to both look town and further the mafia agenda.

Rels is missing key ingredients in his play that make him town, this is a bit harder to explain but a townie most of the time is able to discuss multiple things at the same time and can freely discuss his reads and ideas over a game. Rels has not yet shown this. He isn't playing bad as mafia but he is not able to really look town.

The best thing is his waffle on Disformation D1, how he townread him but not really, how hard he sold his towncase while it was pretty bad and just based on 1 thing that was even incorrect. But then when he saw the opportunity to call disformation mafia he took it and is simply not letting go anymore.

I can give more reasoning over why he is more likely mafia over town. But I am pretty sure we are reaching a point in which he is not town anymore. For example during the night. Him calling me mafia in case he died so dramatically showed that he had 0 feeling with what was really happening in this game. As town, he would never feel that, that was super unnatural.


But LS and sl kinda spewed Rels town. So annoying.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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December 24 2016 15:09 GMT
#1647
Like how ls came in the thread defending himself based on the fact he couldn't be mafia with Rels.... So weird.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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December 24 2016 15:15 GMT
#1648
On December 23 2016 00:41 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2016 00:39 Koshi wrote:
It's Rels and LS.

Me and Rels being partners? Oh please where you got this idea from?

On December 23 2016 00:48 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2016 00:43 Koshi wrote:
On December 23 2016 00:41 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 23 2016 00:39 Koshi wrote:
It's Rels and LS.

Me and Rels being partners? Oh please where you got this idea from?

There is nothing that connects you 2 except that you are both mafia.

Then how would we be partners if ther enothing that connects us? Also if he was my partner why would he townread so hard the way he been doing it? I think this picture describes your perfectly:
[image loading]

On December 23 2016 00:50 LightningStrike wrote:
Keep amusing me Koshi I am not getting lynched today we lynching Kmatt or no lynch.



And Alakaslam is possible town due to how LS went with me on him D1. But that isn't sure because LS kinda disappeared after I said I wanted to go slam and he followed me.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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December 24 2016 15:17 GMT
#1649
On December 21 2016 06:01 LightningStrike wrote:
Okay I still don't think ExO is mafia based on meta and I still didn't see any real case on disformation unless I missed it somewhere in my skim. I pretty sure HF and Koshi are very likely town with their interactions with other people with their questioning. Dunno about sicklucker though seems very trollish early into not doing much. Kinda want to talk to him when he gets back to get a better read on him. Rels seems pretty townie too for his questioning and trying to push discussion on disformation but didn't see a real case on him :\


On December 21 2016 06:07 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2016 06:03 sicklucker wrote:
On December 21 2016 06:01 LightningStrike wrote:
Okay I still don't think ExO is mafia based on meta and I still didn't see any real case on disformation unless I missed it somewhere in my skim. I pretty sure HF and Koshi are very likely town with their interactions with other people with their questioning. Dunno about sicklucker though seems very trollish early into not doing much. Kinda want to talk to him when he gets back to get a better read on him. Rels seems pretty townie too for his questioning and trying to push discussion on disformation but didn't see a real case on him :\


just vote me bra

I honestly don't want to waste my vote on you especially considering how many people rather lynch ExO although I don't want to lynch him tbh.


looks really bad for sl?
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Koshi
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December 24 2016 15:18 GMT
#1650
On December 24 2016 02:10 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2016 06:35 Koshi wrote:
Hmm cool. 3 people thinking LS is odd at the same time. Interesting

Show nested quote +
On December 21 2016 06:36 sicklucker wrote:
well thats probably because LS is mafia.

Well I have things in my head telling me ls is mafia. But I also have things in my head telling me hes town

Show nested quote +
On December 21 2016 06:37 sicklucker wrote:
I remember ls is a less active mafia. which is hard to judge since hes not that active as town but there is a noticeable difference. here he claims to be sick


lael

I still think this is funny.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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Belgium38799 Posts
December 24 2016 15:19 GMT
#1651
On December 23 2016 10:42 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2016 10:10 Rels wrote:
On December 23 2016 00:39 Koshi wrote:
Lynch Rels. He is mafia.

##unvote
##vote Rels

Come on. We finally had a moment where we talked about something this morning and you're back to THIS
You're very very very annoying this game. The worst thing is that I don't even think you're a likely scum. At all. And that annoys me the most.


he woundlt be koshi if he was not terrible tunneling some town. usually its me feels bad man

And this comment just sealed the fucking deal for me. This was so bad. I don't know. Felt 1000% mafia.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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December 24 2016 15:47 GMT
#1655
The real doc should claim in the mid of day 3. If sicklucker didn't retract his claim then.
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Koshi
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December 24 2016 15:47 GMT
#1656
then lynch the fucker
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Koshi
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December 24 2016 15:48 GMT
#1657
sicklucker is still mafia so finding reasons why he is mafia and telling the thread them is a good way to spend your time.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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December 24 2016 15:49 GMT
#1658
On December 24 2016 00:49 Koshi wrote:
I like how sl is talking right besides LS. They are in the thread together alone, and sl just ignores him and votes him.

high level.

good post
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Koshi
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December 25 2016 00:01 GMT
#1678
On December 25 2016 01:13 sicklucker wrote:
Also I want a sorry when you called me an idiot.

Show nested quote +
On December 24 2016 10:20 sicklucker wrote:
On December 24 2016 10:18 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 24 2016 10:16 Holyflare wrote:
Do you think you deserve to survive after berating my personal life and non game relevant information?

I promise to save you tonight.


whats the point tho? mafai will just kill the person the medic saved last night.

On December 24 2016 10:18 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 24 2016 10:16 Holyflare wrote:
Do you think you deserve to survive after berating my personal life and non game relevant information?

I promise to save you tonight.


... this is a scum slip fyi.

1 Doctor
Role pm
You are the doctor you cannot heal yourself or the same person twice in a row

a real doctor would know this. no matter who he saves tonight is pointless. A real doctor would know mafia will just kill the save last night

Ya ls is not the medic



I pointed out ls slipped he was fake claiming and all you could call me was an idiot

Because it wasn't a scumslip at all. but w.e.


I can find mafia in case you are really the doc but my answer is Rels the entire game already.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
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December 25 2016 00:03 GMT
#1679
It is also really important people stop complaining about activity and work with the evidence in the thread right now. Extra info is nice but not necessary to solve the game.

So I have 90 mins left and I am in a very good Xmas mood.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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December 25 2016 00:06 GMT
#1680
First of all I want to once again state that I think SL is mafia and if there is a real doc he is a fucking piece of shit if he pulls this as VT and he should ALWAYS be fucking lynched. ALWAYS. I do not understand why he claims as VT.

So tbh if there is a doc. Just counterclaim and lynch SL. If SL claims he did it to draw the nk simply call him a fucking piece of trash around a million times and lynch the fucker.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
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December 25 2016 00:24 GMT
#1681
1.Alakaslam
Made extremely good posts. I do not think he can make such quality posts as mafia. He makes better posts than I would if I was town with limited time. It is incredible how good his posts are. Maybe not correct at times, but incredible good. I would not lynch him the next days. Lylo it gets tougher maybe, I am not sure somebody like Rels or SL can ever become as town as the Slamfish.

6.Rels
Made a couple good posts, which he can do as mafia. Especially the posts that hit you emotionally were on point. Didn't make enough town posts. The case on disformation was too much drama, the case itself was decent at face value but I don't like it because it doesn't show mafia mindset, it could just explains why disformation his posts became better. But I can see disformation be town, his playstyle is a bit like Xatalos. Always talking about the current situation but without extra flavor.
Rels is too afk. Town Rels is way more involved in the game. He would have had 1 - 2 more good moments.
Rels lacks a full view on the game. His tunnel on disformation looks pushing mafia agenda.
Rels lacked the feeling of town Rels when I talk to him. It is too combative between us. Because he is so fucking horrible this game. It does not feel like talking to town Rels because his ideas are fucking stupid. Like his townread on disformation earlier.
I made a good post that sums this all up and gives other examples before. Read it.

7.Holyflare
Plays a very good game if mafia. I don't believe it atm and he outplayed me so he can have his fucking trophy. Yes, he could be mafia, but we lost and he won. Don't entertain the idea and just work with him. Use your braincells for something else than calling this guy mafia. Plays a very good game as town as well btw.

8. Kmatt
I think he is town. LS first idea was to lynch this guy btw, when he came back the first time to call my theory that he and Rels were mafia tinfoil. When he came back the second time to babyrage I pushed him towards sl, he didn't have another choice, but then the third time close to deadline when LS claimed doctor he again went for Kmatt, and when we wanted to no lynch he still wanted Kmatt, he didn't want to no lynch because LS knew he was on borrowed time. So I think this guy is town. The 3 people mafia team was also pretty much a dumbtell.

9.disformation
This guy is my 3rd option atm. tbh I think he is doc. But sure, if SL is really doc, then after Rels I would look at this guy. I don't know, I must say he completely outplayed me, I know he can play a really active and solving town game, he isn't doing that here, his first 60 posts in the game were fucking horrible, pure shit even, but he picked it up, did he pick it up by just repeating everything that sounded smart? I don't know, pretty brilliant. I also have at least 4-5 post shattered throughout the game that comes from a townie 80% of the time, I made marks in my brain, so if he is mafia he played really really well. Xcept for making a some shitposts and lacking scumhunting, but I would like people like him in my town anyday everyday.
I can't believe he is mafia. But maybe he is. In lylo I would have a hard time picking between him and Slam.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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December 25 2016 00:30 GMT
#1682
So my list is this:

sicklucker










Rels
disformation
slamfish
holyflare
kmatt


And kmatt is at the bottom cuz he got lucky. pushed by mafia because he was lynchbait. we didn't fall for it so he became confirmed town. It is possible LS did a sick bus, it is possible he faked his dumbtells. But I don't believe it. I can believe more that HF is playing his incredible mafia game again. So yeah... Maybe if HF doesn't die and is alive in lylo I would find this strange. It would be 3 vs 1 lylo so it should always be kmatt, slam, rels, disformation. If mafia kills Kmatt over HF I would reward their balls with giving HF some extra scumpoints.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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December 25 2016 00:31 GMT
#1683
oh right, the real doc will die. So HF is always in the final 4. Sucks
Still don't think it is worth wasting braincells thinking he is mafia.

Really made excellent posts if he is mafia. Extremely good.
Really good if town. Extremely good if mafia.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
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December 25 2016 00:33 GMT
#1684
On December 24 2016 08:16 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2016 08:15 sicklucker wrote:
On December 24 2016 08:12 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 24 2016 08:11 Koshi wrote:
Just make a list with all remaining players and your honoest opinion. You might get a lot of points for the championship thingie anyway.

I gtg.

I refuse just like how you guys refused to work with me getting sicklucker lynched.


thats ok because im town in the case your acualy town dipshit

Sorry but if you happen to be town I will eat a hat you hag.

like this was just funny
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Koshi
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December 25 2016 00:33 GMT
#1685
On December 24 2016 09:02 LightningStrike wrote:
Also I gave a alternative instead you fucking don't even consider sicklucker being mafia Holyflare what are you fucking dumb? How is sicklucker not a alternative?

this is also telling hf is not mafia I think
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Koshi
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December 25 2016 00:34 GMT
#1686
On December 24 2016 09:02 LightningStrike wrote:
For someone who is a lawyer you stupid I surprised you even got to law school because you are that dumb.

hahahahahahahahahahaha. I love LS.

See the difference is when I say it I actually mean it with 100% of my hearth.
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Koshi
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December 25 2016 00:37 GMT
#1687
On December 25 2016 01:11 sicklucker wrote:
The correct response now koshi is to say.

Thanks sicklucker for saving me night 1
Thanks sicklucker for sheeping me and hammering Ls with me since I knew you were town
Thanks sicklucker for giving me another chance to win the liquidmania qulaifer before your nightkilled and not deserving
Thanks sicklucker for eliminating the poe you have to figure out
Thanks sicklucker for wifming mafia and giving you a chance to survive the night

IF the next words out of your mouth are not thanks you can die in a grease fire as far as im concerned

The bolded I thank you for in case you are actually truthful.

The rest is bullshit
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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December 25 2016 00:41 GMT
#1688
oh I remember 1 more thing.

There were 2 instances in this game that Rels operated under the assumption that Kmatt was town when he really shouldn't.
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Koshi
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Belgium38799 Posts
December 25 2016 00:42 GMT
#1689
Oh and don't forget Rels is ridiculously retarded drunk posting. That was so fucking bad. Holy shit.
I almost can't believe that it came from town Rels.
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Koshi
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December 25 2016 00:44 GMT
#1690
So yeah, if sl is really doc I would lynch Rels always. Always and ever.


the only thing that gives me a bit pause is LS coming in the thread saying mafia Rels would never townread LS so hard. I found that extremely odd reasoning. Like TMI reasoning.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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December 25 2016 00:47 GMT
#1691
so funny to read filters and see people like disformation and rels put ls as their most townie even on N1 D2. Dafuq is that.

That being said. I did the same during D1.



Rels reasoning for thinking LS was superbad though.
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Koshi
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December 25 2016 00:48 GMT
#1692
On December 22 2016 21:09 Rels wrote:
AAAAAAAAAND here it is.
##Vote disformation

so fake
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Koshi
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December 25 2016 00:48 GMT
#1693
On December 22 2016 21:47 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2016 21:25 Koshi wrote:
##unvote

I can't keep this up.

##vote Lighteningstrike

I saw two posts that I think are pretty hard for scum!LS to make.
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2016 04:36 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 22 2016 04:34 Holyflare wrote:
On December 22 2016 04:32 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 22 2016 04:12 Koshi wrote:
On December 22 2016 03:59 LightningStrike wrote:
Sorry I was just way to pissed off that ExO still got lynched despite me and Koshi tried to start the wagon on Slam :\ I fine with a Kmatt lynch since Slam does look a bit better post lynch. Kmatt's early game talk is so weird around sicklucker which me and HF pointed out. Hopefully this game will get easier tonight.

Rels is going to go ham.

What you mean by going to go ham?


He typod. He meant he's going to get ham from the supermarket.

You sure he meant that?

Show nested quote +
On December 22 2016 05:14 LightningStrike wrote:
I think you just were trolling me HF -.-

These. This is his personality. If he was scum and working on imitating his town meta I don't think he would be able to replicate his natural naivety.

so bad
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Koshi
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December 25 2016 00:49 GMT
#1694
On December 21 2016 02:22 Rels wrote:
SL burst of posts start of page 21 are more townie than the entirety of his filter last game. He has a lot of difficulties replicating that as scum

o rly
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Koshi
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December 25 2016 00:51 GMT
#1695
On December 20 2016 18:32 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2016 18:24 Koshi wrote:
On December 20 2016 18:22 Rels wrote:
On December 20 2016 18:19 Koshi wrote:
On December 20 2016 18:08 Rels wrote:
On December 20 2016 18:05 Koshi wrote:
I reread Exo and the first 10 pages of the game and nothing Exo did is showing any mafia mindset. I think the case on him boils down to "odd town play".

The case Rels makes on Exo, I don't know if that makes him mafia, it is a very odd play for mafia to constantly push such a deep idea while defending.
"If you think I am mafia you should also think disformation is mafia, but you don't think disformation is mafia so you are mafia".

I am reading Exo more like odd town than cornered mafia.


So currently I still don't like disinformation, sicklucker, Alakaslam & Rels. I might really not like Rels.

Why ?

If you are asking why I don't like you. I don't know yet. But my feels say you are potential mafia.

That is what I'm asking about and this doesn't statisfy me.
Why is SL anything other than null ?

PoE makes his mafia chance higher.

Why are you voting him then ?
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2016 18:25 Koshi wrote:
Because I like you are here I shall read the latest pages as well. Maybe my feels are off. (wouldn't hope on it)

Because that literally never happened in the history of TL mafia.
... right ? p:

I rock
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Koshi
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December 25 2016 00:53 GMT
#1696
maybe sl is really doc and Rels is mafia. This is without doubt an abysmal game by one of the 2.
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Koshi
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December 25 2016 00:55 GMT
#1697
It only gets a bitter better when they are both town. Then it is actually not horrible except "proving you are town to town" part
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Koshi
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December 25 2016 00:58 GMT
#1698
As last post I would like to remind you if you ever want to lynch the slammer. Look at the posts LS made during EoD1. If they were strategically placed so that the slammer would not gain momentum. I know LS kinda disappeared a bit and made 2-4 posts about Exo being town and Slam mafia. But I don't know if it is enough to townread Slam.
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Koshi
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December 28 2016 01:30 GMT
#2099
Obvious fucking mafia. So fucking obvious.
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Koshi
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December 28 2016 01:30 GMT
#2101
On December 28 2016 10:30 iamperfection wrote:
scores for qualifier coming soon

Give me +1000000
Give sickluker -10000000000
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Koshi
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December 28 2016 01:31 GMT
#2105
On December 23 2016 10:42 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2016 10:10 Rels wrote:
On December 23 2016 00:39 Koshi wrote:
Lynch Rels. He is mafia.

##unvote
##vote Rels

Come on. We finally had a moment where we talked about something this morning and you're back to THIS
You're very very very annoying this game. The worst thing is that I don't even think you're a likely scum. At all. And that annoys me the most.


he woundlt be koshi if he was not terrible tunneling some town. usually its me feels bad man

Worst post I have seen forever.
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Koshi
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December 28 2016 01:32 GMT
#2109
On December 28 2016 10:31 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2016 10:30 Koshi wrote:
On December 28 2016 10:30 iamperfection wrote:
scores for qualifier coming soon

Give me +1000000
Give sickluker -10000000000


you called 8 people mafia and you got one right wow :D . I acualy lynched him

I made the correct case mid D2. And you had nothing to say xcept the thing I just quoted. So fucking bad.
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Koshi
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December 28 2016 01:36 GMT
#2119
On December 28 2016 10:33 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2016 10:32 Koshi wrote:
On December 28 2016 10:31 sicklucker wrote:
On December 28 2016 10:30 Koshi wrote:
On December 28 2016 10:30 iamperfection wrote:
scores for qualifier coming soon

Give me +1000000
Give sickluker -10000000000


you called 8 people mafia and you got one right wow :D . I acualy lynched him

I made the correct case mid D2. And you had nothing to say xcept the thing I just quoted. So fucking bad.


you got the doctor to claim tho :D. you played good but not perfect

It is not my fault you decided to go hard townread the guy who was mafia throughout the game. I can't see through so much bad.

On December 23 2016 01:01 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2016 00:52 Kmatt wrote:
On December 23 2016 00:51 Koshi wrote:
On December 23 2016 00:48 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 23 2016 00:43 Koshi wrote:
On December 23 2016 00:41 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 23 2016 00:39 Koshi wrote:
It's Rels and LS.

Me and Rels being partners? Oh please where you got this idea from?

There is nothing that connects you 2 except that you are both mafia.

Then how would we be partners if ther enothing that connects us? Also if he was my partner why would he townread so hard the way he been doing it? I think this picture describes your perfectly:
[image loading]

Why haven't you bothered to find mafia this game LS? I thought you wanted to help me make town great again? You have done nothing. Even your D1 vote Slam just happened because I on that moment wanted to lynch Slam, if I wanted to lynch anybody else you would have went with that probably.

Where is your scumhunting? Where is your read progression?

Even on ExO. There is no progression. It is just you using meta and sticking to that.


I can see why you don't like LS this late in but why Rels? I saw a few people comment on him as I got caught up.

I have already explained it but I will repeat because I have said a lot of random things already as well:

- Rels is mafia because he is more likely pushing a mafia agenda over a town agenda. As you can see, he is pushing disformation for a while now, and his latest case (albeit it not being bad, but mafia can make an ok case from time to time) is a great example of how a mafia is solely able to focus on 1 thing to both look town and further the mafia agenda.

Rels is missing key ingredients in his play that make him town, this is a bit harder to explain but a townie most of the time is able to discuss multiple things at the same time and can freely discuss his reads and ideas over a game. Rels has not yet shown this. He isn't playing bad as mafia but he is not able to really look town.

The best thing is his waffle on Disformation D1, how he townread him but not really, how hard he sold his towncase while it was pretty bad and just based on 1 thing that was even incorrect. But then when he saw the opportunity to call disformation mafia he took it and is simply not letting go anymore.

I can give more reasoning over why he is more likely mafia over town. But I am pretty sure we are reaching a point in which he is not town anymore. For example during the night. Him calling me mafia in case he died so dramatically showed that he had 0 feeling with what was really happening in this game. As town, he would never feel that, that was super unnatural.


On December 23 2016 01:04 Koshi wrote:
##unvote
##vote Rels and fucking LS


BOTH ARE MAFIA

Saw trough Rels his play and wrote it down perfectly and you go fucking antagonize me and call him top town.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 28 2016 01:36 GMT
#2121
On December 28 2016 10:35 iamperfection wrote:
MVP = Koshi He qualifies

50 points for Sicklucker medic save two deciding votes on mafia

25 to holyflare mostly be default

everyone else gets 10


sicklucker should get -500. But I'll take MVP. ty.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 28 2016 01:37 GMT
#2123
On December 28 2016 10:34 LightningStrike wrote:
To be honest I did read you blue sicklucker but didn't think you were worth killing honestly and was hoping you would save HF instead of Koshi.
Unlucky I guess GG WP Town my anger really was fake in fact I actually was laughing my ass off during it lol.

I knew it
I was laughing hard as well.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 28 2016 01:40 GMT
#2128
On December 28 2016 10:39 sicklucker wrote:
I said everything about rels was mafia except that weird thing day 1 where I thought we would never mind meld twice as town. And then after awile it became I didnt want to vote him because then my word is meaningless XD. and then partly because I wouldnt deserve mvp

lol stop doing drugs.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 28 2016 01:41 GMT
#2130
On December 28 2016 10:39 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2016 10:37 Koshi wrote:
On December 28 2016 10:34 LightningStrike wrote:
To be honest I did read you blue sicklucker but didn't think you were worth killing honestly and was hoping you would save HF instead of Koshi.
Unlucky I guess GG WP Town my anger really was fake in fact I actually was laughing my ass off during it lol.

I knew it
I was laughing hard as well.

What you mean you knew it? Were you stalking me irl? :o

lol ofc. Read your role pm through my binoculars.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 28 2016 01:41 GMT
#2131
On December 28 2016 10:40 sicklucker wrote:
Koshi I was clsoe to saying something ingame because you brought this up along time ago where if your going out of line to have someone tell you. but I didnt want to be a bitch. but you were out of line

says the person who feels the need to trashtalk the dead guy.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 28 2016 01:47 GMT
#2135
On December 28 2016 10:43 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2016 10:41 Koshi wrote:
On December 28 2016 10:40 sicklucker wrote:
Koshi I was clsoe to saying something ingame because you brought this up along time ago where if your going out of line to have someone tell you. but I didnt want to be a bitch. but you were out of line

says the person who feels the need to trashtalk the dead guy.

if you dish you should expect to recieve. I sapsoe I should have brought something up in game

Cool then we are even. And yes it is better if you say something when I am out of line because as town I can't help it most of the time if I am too invested by mass posting.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 28 2016 01:48 GMT
#2136
On December 28 2016 10:46 sicklucker wrote:
like if you medic saved someone. then followed there read and lynched who they wanted to lynch. and then for some reason they wanted to lynch you and made you claim. you would be pretty annoyed too. espically when that person was mafia and literally wanted to kill me and claim my role

Yeah but I totally disagreed with the fact LS scumclaimed with that. Like if he was the real doc he could easily say the same things. It wasn't a scumclaim.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 28 2016 02:03 GMT
#2142
oh shoutout to Alakaslam for making extremely townie posts that had pretty good scumhunting in them. Being a bit more involved with your votes would have been pleasant though.
I had a good night of sleep.
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