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Best plynch. Also most mafia entry. | ||
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On December 19 2016 19:35 disformation wrote: Not a girlmore girls fan I guess? :p Gossip girl? | ||
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On December 19 2016 19:45 disformation wrote: was referring to the video slam posted :p ahhh I can't see that @ work. Well... I can but then I got to press the "this is for work button" which I don't press first thing in the morning on a youtube video. I thought it had something to do with 1% and 99%. Already found it odd. | ||
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The person who didn't tried to do anything should be the plynch. ##unvote ##vote Kmatt | ||
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Nothing wrong with his vote. | ||
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On December 20 2016 00:53 ExO_ wrote: Cherry-picking? Are you fucking kidding me? I just woke up, haven't even rolled out of bed yet. Saying something about a buddy in a game with this few players is a bit interesting don't you think? I'd think no town player is so ready to befriend anybody else as you are with that post. Accusing me of posting to not appear inactive is completely ridiculous. I just got into the thread, just realized the game started. Don't be so comvatitive. At least the guy is trying to do shit. If he does nothing it is worse for town. So him voting you and rustling your jimmies is propper play at this stage of the game. | ||
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Anyway. Consider my vote off Kmatt and on Exo. | ||
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On December 20 2016 01:23 LightningStrike wrote: So Koshi what are your thoughts atm bro? Everybody is potential mafia. I trust nobody. Yet, I am willing to work with people to flush out the mafias. At this point I cannot lynch based on content and am limited to lynch on activity. | ||
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On December 20 2016 01:34 ExO_ wrote: so somehow koshi/kmatt are going to come into the thread, scum reading me for some stupid ass reason. kmatt ignores my comment about him buddying, as any scum would. and both koshi/kmatt ignore disinformation pseudo defending me. If I'm scummy, why isn't disinfo scummy too hmm koshi/kmatt? It's not that I think you are scummier than random other person x. It is that you come in the thread with a rather ambitious read, that you dont explain your read causing confusion rather than pushing the game forward, that you then throw a little tantrum and leave the thread. Free vote from me. Also this little observation you made on disformation doesnt impress me at all. Especially the feeling I get behind it bothers me, as if you are throwing on the ground right before me a cookie and I should be happy... lol. Play the game. Be happy. Lynch mafia with your townie friends. | ||
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On December 20 2016 01:39 ExO_ wrote: I'm fairly certain in past games Koshi has said something roughly along the lines of wasting inactive players is a waste of time, and we should focus on finding scum instead. Why is he so ready to lynch inactives now? When there is content to discuss, sitting on your hands and lynching inactives is bad. Is that what I am doing Exo? What am I doing Exo? Can you tell me what I am doing? | ||
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Kmatt buddying Disinfo defending Koshi also mafia? It's weird | ||
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On December 20 2016 01:53 ExO_ wrote: You and evidently kmatt think that the first post I make into the thread, because it's literally one of the first things I noticed when I realized the game started is making a huge case. I posted one sentence, and suddenly thats a case against kmatt? If you want to talk about overreaction, that's a huge overreaction. He immediately omgus me. I was literally still in bed and it tilted me a bit. And you hop on in support of him right away, and then suggestion we should vote off an inactive. You won't commit to voting me, but I don't see you discussing anything else right now I am fully committing voting you. Just cba to do it on phone. I can only do so much. You are top priority atm. Pls answer my questions truthfully. You are on thin ice. | ||
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On December 20 2016 01:54 ExO_ wrote: I don't think disinfo is scum, I'm saying you guys not finding him suspicious if you think I'm scum, is suspicious. O rly? Can you explain why? | ||
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On December 20 2016 01:59 ExO_ wrote: I don't have a fucking reason to think he's scum yet. Especially when kmatt is over here omgusing me at the first thing I say and you are defending him like crazy. Do I already need to have a 5 page analysis on why I think every player is town? I'm not going to operate from the assumption that everyone is scum, that's fucking retarded. I'll scum read someone when I have a reason to think they are scum You are focussing on the wrong part of that sentence. [/b]I'm saying you guys not finding him suspicious if you think I'm scum, is suspicious.[/b] Why? Goddamn each refresh is a new red alert from my virusthingie. | ||
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On December 20 2016 02:08 ExO_ wrote: [/b][/b]If you think I'm a scum: Kmatt comes into the thread and votes me. Disinfo basically brushes off the case saying I'm not a morning person and tries to redirect the conversation elsewhere. If you think I'm scum, why are you both ignoring disinfo doing this? Either you (and kmatt) don't really think I'm scum, or are ignoring disinfo here for some reason I cannot fathom. your turn Why aren't you scum reading him if you think I'm scum? I don't have strong feeling about anybody at all atm. I just poke around a bit. Disformation his morning joke was because you were so angry for seemingly no reason. That was never ever an attempt to redirect pressure of you. Ugh. I have such a difficult time understanding your thought process here. Not only did you think we were hard scumreading you, you also think we should have association read somebody else scummy for defending you. That is so farfetched... | ||
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On December 20 2016 02:47 ExO_ wrote: He voted me, and you said you were going to vote me. I'll be sure to take that as town-leaning scum reads, instead of actual scum reads, in the future. Because I said I would and am home now. ##unvote ##vote Exo Yes I was voting people to get the ball rolling and if the ball didn't roll I would still be ok with my vote. HF was correct, I voted you because you came in with the wrong emotions and I wanted to pressure you to see if you were mafia. I will have to reread the last 2-4 pages to see what you exactly replied and reconsider if you are really mafia. You came in aggressive and I used that against you to see if I could get an easy townread. I don't think that happened but like I said. Need to reread. | ||
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On December 20 2016 02:41 disformation wrote: yeah, it is the first actual/decent point HF has made on me. :D Because the Exo wagon is not the cool kids wagon anymore I am voting this guy. ##unvote ##vote disformation I don't think he replied to HF his point when he made it initially. Replying here is a bit off maybe. | ||
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On December 20 2016 03:05 disformation wrote: huh? his intial reasons to SR meh were super meh and he just posted the newer/decent ones, when Kmatt replied to it. if its you and HF, can you guys kill me n1 again? :D :D + Show Spoiler + completely not funny though. 1) I think HF is playing pretty well atm and 2) I can't imagine why somebody would think I am mafia atm. | ||
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gone but not yet dead. | ||
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I am Will Smith and you are the other guy? | ||
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No I meant the other black guy in Bad Boys. But you can be the old white guy from MiB. Maybe that fits better. | ||
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On December 20 2016 03:46 Holyflare wrote: You guys are boring, I'm gonna get shot like crazy tonight nha this time they will medic dodge and shoot me. | ||
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On December 20 2016 04:15 disformation wrote: good point I prop should look at him again anyways. cause I have like no scum reads and a bunch of ppl I don't want to lynch. like i dont want to lynch hf, kmatt, ls and koshi. me is town. I like the latest batch of slam posts. by pure poe i am down to rels, exo and sl. Why is slam out of your PoE? I hope it is a really good reason. | ||
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On December 20 2016 04:19 disformation wrote: Probably not. :D Liked this post: Yeah your reasoning is terrible. It's not because it is slam you shouldn't hold him to a high standard. Everything slam did is well within his scum meta. It is not because he is simpler to understand this game that he is town. That's not how it works. Pretty easy post for scum!slam to make. | ||
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Kmatt probably is. | ||
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You have called somebody town 3 times this game when the correct read is null. You have not been pushing the game forward. You feel absent but are lurking. You said once too many that you have no reads, or that it is hard to gain reads. You called HF & me mafia. | ||
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2.ExO_ 6.Rels 5.sicklucker 1.Alakaslam 8. Kmatt 4.LightningStrike 7.Holyflare I have to reread ExO but I am going to call it a day for now. | ||
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##unvote ##vote sicklucker | ||
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On December 20 2016 07:46 disformation wrote: Huh? Care to explain? Either i'm scummy and you are lynching me, or I am not scummy and you are not lynching me. You are scummy but I am not lynching you. | ||
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There is a reason why we don't lynch mafia each D1. For some reason some townies can play scummier than the scummers. I am not yet sure that is you. I would still put you on the scumpile of things, really near the top, but I have a feeling I am going to be happier having you around D2 than sicklucker. Like... I prefer to take the 60/40% odds I am currently feeling on sicklucker, over the 70/30% odd I have on you. Simply because I feel you will keep going up and down pretty volatile during the next days, while sicklucker is dogshit. | ||
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The case Rels makes on Exo, I don't know if that makes him mafia, it is a very odd play for mafia to constantly push such a deep idea while defending. "If you think I am mafia you should also think disformation is mafia, but you don't think disformation is mafia so you are mafia". I am reading Exo more like odd town than cornered mafia. So currently I still don't like disinformation, sicklucker, Alakaslam & Rels. I might really not like Rels. | ||
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If you are asking why I don't like you. I don't know yet. But my feels say you are potential mafia. | ||
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On December 20 2016 18:22 Rels wrote: That is what I'm asking about and this doesn't statisfy me. Why is SL anything other than null ? PoE makes his mafia chance higher. | ||
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Really not impressed by that. There are 2 things speaking in disformation his favor: 1) he was quite quickly poe'ed on the right people. 2) his tone is consistently terrible. | ||
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On December 20 2016 19:03 Alakaslam wrote: Rels is too unsure in the wrong places. Just a vibe; vibes fail me a lot. Just tossing it out there because fish, mc chicken, I'm voting the vibe. So this vote isn't technically a ninja vote. (I did this at 2AM but whatever.) On December 20 2016 19:04 Alakaslam wrote: ##Vote: Rels Ty slam. This is really good. Ty. | ||
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No it is really good. | ||
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On December 20 2016 19:11 Rels wrote: He made a recap post that resulted at NO conclusion, when he was under pressured for being waffled. This is NOT easy to make as scum, not the recap part, the not taking position part. Is this opposite world? | ||
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On December 20 2016 19:16 Rels wrote: Nope. But if they're partners though everything I've just said doesn't hold weight actually. 1) Exo was being attacked by the thread and disformation lurked. 2) Exo leaves the thread and the thread leaves Exo 3) Disformation recaps Exo posts that confuses him. How is does that look good for Disformation? Because he in the end doesn't really have a read on Exo? lol. | ||
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he made an excellent observation. I saw it as well but currently I don't know if I am talking to the N1 Rels from last game or mafia Rels. | ||
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On December 20 2016 19:22 Rels wrote: The thing is, he was pressured to take a stance and he made a big post with qutoes in it, to have no conclusion. It's so obviously scummy that I have doubts scum!disfo would post it without changing the conclusion to be "exo could be scum maybe" or whatever. THAT IS NOT HOW THIS GAME WORKS. | ||
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Like what the fuck are you even doing Rels? | ||
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##vote disformation This is the correct lynch. Sicklucker is a good lynch as well, but a bigger bet. | ||
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On December 20 2016 19:48 Rels wrote: I have a direct opposite experience with playing with saitamaofonepunch p: You started 3 posts in this game (2 on disformation, 1 on Exo with major waffles). It is odd. | ||
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On December 20 2016 08:34 Rels wrote: I was disliking the push on ExO at first because I witnessed first hand that ExO can be heavily tilted as town. But exo might be scum actually. On December 20 2016 09:19 Rels wrote: I'm caught up. disfo might be scum maybe, I didn't like his posts on SL and Slam these last few pages. But if the lynch was right now I would 1000% lynch exo. On December 20 2016 18:57 Rels wrote: I don't know if I want to lynch disfo. There are things in his filter might indicate him as scum (not his hedging, he's known to do that as town): his first post, his "HF point on me is good" post, his very bad reasonning on SL on Slam. But there are things that are good like this post: These things. Mafia has a though time thinking things through as a townie would. The first step figuring things out is easy for a townie, it instant happens in his brain, then the second step is thinking further and proving your initial gutfeeling. You are not doing that, you are stuck on step 1 and making boring as fuck posts about that. | ||
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On December 20 2016 20:13 disformation wrote: one thing confuses me about slam. He jumps into the thread, with an bad vibe on rels and votes him, over rels post on me. Which I can kinda understand. Then Rels changes the conclusion on me and Slam unvotes Rels and votes me. I don't think Slam has ever mentioned me besides "yo rels I dont like your stuff on disfo"? Your point? | ||
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On December 20 2016 20:16 disformation wrote: *sigh* should probably said so the first time. xD I am not 100% sure cause his points on rels arent bad and I might be biased. But I get a bit of an opportunistic feeling of of this. As in: he might not be looking for scum, but for an ml. Such a drag with you this game... Again.. Why would he move his vote from Rels to you if he is mafia? Why bother? Clearly something happened and he liked it and decided to move his vote, knowing I was fighting about you with Rels there is a big chance something did change for him and he swapped his vote around. It is more likely he is town for this, than mafia. Also, the way Alakaslam came in the thread voting Rels with actual reasoning is pretty good stuff. It is true that Rels is a wafflemaster this game and that there is a very prudent feeling behind his posts and that we all like our shit easy. Posts like "I think X is obvious mafia and reason Y and Z proof that". Nothing like that from Rels. Alakaslam saw that and voted Rels. I am ok with it. Anyway. Why you can't make thoughtful posts bothers me. Light some fireworks in your ass and type things that are out there. So I can see you are actually thinking about things. On December 20 2016 20:01 disformation wrote: So I guess I am disagreeing with slam here. Imo Rels posts sounded good until he starts talking about me. Also the bolded........ Almost nothing there except 1 post about Kmatt maybe being town which was fine. But the other post was him completely ignoring my bad "town case" on Exo and asking why I had a feeling he could be mafia....... While Exo is his nr 1 "certain" scumread. | ||
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On December 20 2016 20:21 disformation wrote: What the fuck am I even doing this game. xD scumclaiming in my eyes. It's really annoying. | ||
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On December 20 2016 18:07 Koshi wrote: Disformation / Rels should maybe be lynched into. Sicklucker as backup? Who are the terrible towns? | ||
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On December 20 2016 20:32 disformation wrote: hardclaiming terrible town. maybe the others can cc me and we fight to the death? Good job going for the easy answer on that post and completely ignore the analysis I made on Alakaslam being more likely town for that change of vote. Which is the opposite conclusion you had on that "event". Such a drag. | ||
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On December 20 2016 21:22 sicklucker wrote: but you are voting me over scum reads. literraly pushing me pressure and pushing is something completely different. And I would not shed a tear if you would die. Although this mindmeld thing with Rels is interesting. Now I can lynch you before Rels. | ||
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On December 20 2016 21:23 sicklucker wrote: koshi I dont mean to be mean but your the worst person at reading me. in my first 3 games against you I was mafia in all of them and you gave me strong town reads. Since then with the exception of last game I have always been town and you always think im mafia at some point ;p These are probably lies so I don't give a fuck. Last game you were mafia and I correctly put you near the top of my list. The games before that I was 3 times mafia and it was you who townread me. And then the games before that are already 8 months ago so fuck off. | ||
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5.sicklucker 2.ExO_ 8. Kmatt 6.Rels 7.Holyflare 1.Alakaslam 4.LightningStrike I am here atm. | ||
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On December 20 2016 21:19 sicklucker wrote: your right thats why my rels holyfalre and kmatt are town and your just a bad scummer =] On December 20 2016 21:19 sicklucker wrote: or just a bad! Calling me mafia into the double backdown. good stuff. | ||
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ughhhh. you keep doing this thing in which you refuse to play the game and think further. Why can't you give some fucking analysis instead of this shitty one liner. Or Can't you go look if sicklucker his posts add up around Rels. I feel like he already read everything before he "mindmelded" with Rels. | ||
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How Rels waffled 2 times on disformation, and even in his Exo vote said something about disformation. Or was that another post? Sicklucker same. He just forces the pressure away from disformation and puts it somewhere else on a very unnatural way . I had the feeling the lynch needed to be within these 3 names quite early and for some reason they all 3 can't push away the feeling they are mafia. Rels was the closest. | ||
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I stopped believing Exo is mafia. | ||
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On December 20 2016 22:23 disformation wrote: since I am town. that should make them more town, since they legit dont know my aligment? doesnt make much sense for them to waffle about me as scum right? just line me up as a ML? though rels is kinda doing that with his waffling... If you are town. This is what is happening: Town is pushing a ml (Koshi and HF) Mafia is pushing a ml (Exo) Now mafia can still be within many names. Some more likely than others. But it is fucking time to put on your big boy shoes and somehow show that you are solving this game. And you do that by showing that every post you make, even if it is only 1-2 lines. | ||
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Sure, but I need to live in that world right now. | ||
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Town (Koshi and HF) is pushing a ml (disformation) | ||
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##Vote Exo meh we will see. | ||
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On December 21 2016 02:14 Rels wrote: BS. The posts you quoted are actually all great indicators of my thought process. I don't understand your logic on me. You know you don't read me well, I usually (always ?) fool you as scum, and you usually scumread me early game as town. Why are you so focus on me in this game ? It's nothing like last game, in which you gave me time to do stuff. dnu | ||
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On December 21 2016 02:24 Rels wrote: SL does not play like that. SL as scum does not lie about stuff like that. Why do you not know that SL as scum do not lie about stuff like that ? I don't know why. But I thought he talked about you before he made the mindconnection thing. SL was pretty townie when talking to disformation. But not before. Not yet. | ||
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Will lurk. | ||
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On December 21 2016 06:26 Holyflare wrote: What??? There's literally a meta case saying he's exactly mafia. It is quite obvious he meant his own meta case. | ||
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Disformation and Rels in addition made many posts I thought were pretty shit. Alakaslam and sicklucker could be mafia but don't think I lynch them today. | ||
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On December 21 2016 06:35 ExO_ wrote: actually point of note is Koshi played with me on the scum team the only time I was scum here on TL. Tell me Koshi what similarities are you seeing here that makes you think I'm scum? I can't say you are mafia / not mafia. You didn't play enough. | ||
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On December 21 2016 06:37 ExO_ wrote: And yet you jumped on me immediately and have kept that vote. You really think this is your best lynch for day 1? Don't lie. That is stupid. I jumped on you to pressure you. I jumped on many people after that. I devil advocate defended you during the day. I tried considering you are confirmed town and find other answers. I said for a long time mafia was within disinf/Rels/Sicklucker. So don't say dumb things. | ||
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On December 21 2016 06:37 ExO_ wrote: And yet you jumped on me immediately and have kept that vote. You really think this is your best lynch for day 1? Like I said. At this point I don't know who is the best lynch and if you are not mafia the real mafia played well somewhere in this game. But I think Slam/Kmatt and LS have been hiding in the shadows a bit more than others. But Rels/Disinfo and sicklucker came out to play and convinced me they could be town. | ||
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On December 21 2016 06:41 ExO_ wrote: Nothing I've said is lying, are you kidding me? You literally voted me almost immediately and kept your vote there. Regardless what the motivation for the vote was, it IS what happened. And I've been pressured. I'm sitting here posting. What exactly do you want before you can make a call whether or not I'm scum? You can't hide behind that now. Either you think I'm scum and vote me, or you should explain why you are continuing to vote me if you don't think I'm scum Maybe I forgot to change my vote in the vote thread but if you actually read the thread I defended you for multiple hours and pressured other people. Anyway. It isn't important. You didn't play enough bro. You were here but decided to not look for mafia. And even now you are just naming the other potential lynchbaits and showing activity. I have not read really good reasoning why somebody is mafia. If you can't provide that, you need to play throughout the phase more. | ||
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On December 21 2016 06:46 sicklucker wrote: koshi just voted exo when it was obvious exo was the lynch. if koshis his partner hes not trying very hard to hide it Well I voted Exo because you and disformation showed some brainactivity and you harddefended Rels so there was nothing much left for me to do. | ||
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On December 21 2016 06:50 sicklucker wrote: i still dont see why you townread me for those disinfo posts I thought they were bad but ill take it "townread" You just made some not horrible posts. | ||
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On December 21 2016 06:51 Holyflare wrote: If he's town I have a feeling kmatt slipped it and made a wall of irrelevant case text to hide it. kmatt made 2 really bad posts this game. If he is mafia with disinformation he slipped twice. | ||
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##vote Alakaslam Not sure if he is mafia. But ExO made 20 posts in an hour. If he finds time tomorrow maybe we can read him better. I also respect LS his read on him. I also think too many people called him mafia. If Exo is mafia I think we will figure it out anyway. And the path looks pretty good from there. If Slam is town we just play 5 vs 2 tomorrow with 4ish townreads. | ||
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Meh. His play is so odd. I am just not sure it is mafia. If he flips mafia I probably shrug and say, ok, that was pretty terrible mafia play, but if he flips town I will feel regret and think, that was pretty terrible town play. | ||
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What was his plan? | ||
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On December 21 2016 07:07 disformation wrote: Isnt that how it goes most of the time with D1? bad one liner. Do you think ExO would come back to the thread like this as mafia? We can agree he at least wasn't lurking and came back with a plan right? | ||
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Who do we lynch over Exo? | ||
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then just stay quiet and enjoy the ml. | ||
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If you want to help me here? I go to bed soonish and the time to make a play to save ExO is now. | ||
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On December 21 2016 07:11 Holyflare wrote: Feel bad for his team mate and do a last ditched attempt to not get lynched? Pfff. Didn't feel like it. | ||
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On December 21 2016 07:13 Rels wrote: Why would he be angry at HF and scumreading him at the same time if he's town ? Because he is town and being lost. His best post in the thread was about disinfo and LS being mafia. | ||
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On December 21 2016 07:13 Holyflare wrote: I'd lynch kmatt for the lolz if you really think exo is town though :p I forgot about his WoT list post earlier. NU did it as mafia as well last game around that time D1. Bought cred with it. Same thing here? | ||
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On December 21 2016 07:15 Rels wrote: then he voted HF ? That doesn't make any sense Look dude. If you are mafia and play with a mafia buddy you enter the thread with an exit plan. Exo did not do that. Exo also replied to a lot of people quickly and made some insightful comments. (now those comments were kinda horrible because it seems like he didn't even read the thread carefully, but that is totally NAI) What was mafia ExO doing? And with who is he mafia? Either his buddy is bussing him hard and on top of that ExO has no problem talking to him or about him. Or it is LS/Alakaslam. | ||
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On December 20 2016 21:30 Koshi wrote: 9.disformation 5.sicklucker 2.ExO_ 8. Kmatt 6.Rels 7.Holyflare 1.Alakaslam 4.LightningStrike I am here atm. Well this list is fucking garbage. | ||
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On December 21 2016 07:20 LightningStrike wrote: Guys I really do think Slam is the better lynch here over ExO since I had read some of ExO's past games and ExO seems to be playing his town meta and Slam hasn't done much other than agreeing with people on stuff outside of his talk about rels and some stuff in that post but that was it. We should really lynch Slam over ExO due to my reasoning. LS give me your top 4 names that could be mafia please. | ||
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On December 21 2016 07:21 Rels wrote: This is generic shit, he could be the type of scum that think surviving is posting stuff in the thread. He played scum with you in the dota game, how did he play there ? I can't compare it from memory. I reread it earlier but I am pretty sure he always weaseled himself out of the thread and just focussed on big ideas. Like he tunneled somebody and then kept doing that. The big difference for sure is how open minded and clueless he is. | ||
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On December 21 2016 07:23 LightningStrike wrote: Slam, Kmatt, sicklucker if doesn't prove he is town by day 3, then idk honestly I been asking people what the case was on dis since everyone talked about him being scummy and all but no one mention a case. I think Rels is more likely mafia than sicklucker. Maybe. | ||
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If you think I am mafia you should also think disinformation is mafia. Why don't you think that? Seems townie. | ||
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If Exo flips town. Who do we lynch next? Slam probably? So why not lynch the player who is more likely to be unreadable first? Nha I convinced myself. I am lynching Slam first. Exo dug his own hole but too many people wanted to kill him while he was afk and I think he could be town. We should lynch a questionmark in Slam. There is still information when Slam flips town. | ||
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On December 21 2016 07:26 LightningStrike wrote: Hmm why you don't like Rels? I might of skimmed over it when I did my catch up post. He is a dumbass. | ||
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For example when he was defending disinformation with a completely retarded reason which on top of that was incorrect because he didn't read carefully enough. Problem is I think the entity rels/sicklucker is more likely both town than both mafia. But 1 mafia/1 retarded seems more likely. | ||
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On December 21 2016 07:33 Rels wrote: I'm gonna go to bed soon so let's reach a consensus soon please I am never ever voting ExO today. My points on lynching slam first are excellent. | ||
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On December 21 2016 07:34 Rels wrote: You think I'm more careful as town than as scum ? What? | ||
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On December 21 2016 07:36 Rels wrote: I stand the same about voting slam over exo. But one of us is gonna move to the majority before leaving because the setup include a fucking majority vote. Well ExO should be lurking. If he fucks up and doesn't come back before deadline and causes a no lynch he can die in a fire tomorrow. | ||
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On December 21 2016 07:37 Rels wrote: You say it's suspicious that I defended disfo using a post that I did'nt read carefully. Which I find to be a wrong thing to say about me, unless you think I'm more careful as town than as scum ? scum tends to not read post very carefully because they are not scumhunting. But yeah you were pretty good last game as mafia but it has been so long I don't know. | ||
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On December 21 2016 07:37 Koshi wrote: Also HF could be mafia with Slam but not with Exo. I say this solely because HF is the only person who became less townie over the last 15 hours. With disformation, rels and sicklucker becoming more townie. | ||
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Yes. The reasoning for that is in the thread. Why are you discrediting me to discredit this Slam wagon? | ||
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On December 21 2016 07:40 Holyflare wrote: You shut your whore mouth. I am never mafia in this game ever. I am trying to save you from being shot tonight. Clearly no respect. | ||
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And tbf. That is maybe a reason to give him a townie point. But I can give townie points to all players this game. The least are without doubt Exo slam and Kmatt. People who gathered mafia points are disinformation and Kmatt. I don't think I am going to bother going for Kmatt atm. | ||
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On December 21 2016 07:42 Holyflare wrote: I want to lynch exo and I think your reasoning that mafoa has to have a plan other than "survive hopefully" is bad. If you think he's town then I'm extremely questioning your motivation to lynch slam the question mark over kmatt the guy who posted reasoning his own lynch could be wrong and looked like he slipped. Yes. Like I said. I am just typing out ideas to get the ball rolling. But I also feel there could be truth in it. | ||
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On December 21 2016 07:44 Holyflare wrote: I do kind of see your reasoning for an exo town though because I saw glimpses. Ughhhhhh Slam or Kmatt switch? Or not? You can actually decide this game. If you are wrong you give up town mvp award. | ||
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On December 21 2016 07:47 Holyflare wrote: Can someone link the kmatt mafia game? Can you decide in 5 mins or less? | ||
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HF can't decide so he can go sit on a dick. | ||
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On December 21 2016 08:06 disformation wrote: Does that mean you dont want to lynch him anympre? did something cause this change of heart? No I am ok sitting on him till the EoD1 | ||
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And mafia prefers town!slam in game than town!exo most likely. | ||
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Can you explain this a bit more? Why can't scum!Kmatt think that? I can see scum!Kmatt lurking and analyse that line out of ExO his defense. | ||
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On December 21 2016 11:21 Holyflare wrote: Right so you're just playing a white knight in a game you haven't read in a situation you know nothing about and a scenario that didn't occur. Okay Slam have fun preaching. He is making extremely good posts between that. Dnu what you are doing. | ||
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On December 21 2016 11:43 Alakaslam wrote: Are EL S was saying some stuff, I can't remember squat I just remember being suspicious of him /orgasm You are confirmed town. | ||
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For me mafia team is Rels/Kmatt atm. Disformation might be town. Sicklucker is confirmed really bad at the game. | ||
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Disformation made a bunch of terrible posts and should be mafia for that. But he then made a bunch of decent posts so I need 72 more hours. Top 3 is bad town, little bit better mafia tier. Sicklucker made some posts that might resemble townie posts, so he is the lowest. | ||
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On December 21 2016 19:22 Rels wrote: k I'm caught up. But I'll be super inactive all day, I'm preparing my exam. I'll have some time to play tonight to reread stuff and state my thoughts in case I die. Analysis: + Excuses + Delusional - Scumhunting What is there even to reread if you are caught up? Game is extremely straight forward. | ||
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On December 21 2016 23:24 Holyflare wrote: I'm not ruling out kmatt disfo. He seemed pretty weird around the disfo wagon "all the points on disfo are great but this wagon I'm repeatedly having cold feet about is better!" I am not ruling out LS/HF. But it's pretty low on my probability list. | ||
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On December 21 2016 23:28 Holyflare wrote: Cool statement ty | ||
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On December 22 2016 01:06 disformation wrote: So looking at filters for votes and stuff. part 1. Slam starts pushing and voting Rels over Rels having a strange/wrong read on me. Rels rectifies his read on me and points out a pretty scummy post by me. Slam votes me and just returns b4 the deadline. still would liked for him to say something about why he was voting me, but in context it makes sense. Slam has the luck that people don't expect too much from him. But Everything he wrote this game was with a clear town mindset looking for mafia. Brilliant stuff from time to time. That does not mean he was right all the time, but I could perfectly see what a town!Slam was doing to find mafia. | ||
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On December 22 2016 01:30 sicklucker wrote: when rels gets nked tonight your gonna feel pretty dumb I am going to feel only pure joy. | ||
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On December 21 2016 10:35 Kmatt wrote: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/W6IQsnY.jpg) Damn it all why didn't you morons talk me out of this. WE LOST E L O S T | ||
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On December 22 2016 02:21 Alakaslam wrote: Because if he were scum, he wouldn't gladly inform me I think. He'd yell at me for being go- Wait Town would do that Kmatt is a bit questionable. I got townfeels though. exactly. He is neutral towards you and safely states why ExO is on the lynchblock. It could easily have come from mafia taking some towncred because "is helping". | ||
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On December 22 2016 02:57 disformation wrote: Aight. Let's see it is not Kmatt. Who is it then? It is Rels and sicklucker for him. If you want to converse with the slamfish you need to make your questions better, so when he answers it isn't pointless. | ||
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Something is wrong on his top 3 townreads though. I don't know if disformation is mafia with him atm. I think there is info there. | ||
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On December 22 2016 03:32 Koshi wrote: 8. Kmatt 6.Rels 5.sicklucker 4.LightningStrike 7.Holyflare 9.disformation 1.Alakaslam Hmmmpff. I am on an identity crisis atm. | ||
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On December 22 2016 03:48 sicklucker wrote: koshi if you dont like getting nked maybe dont scum hunt at night No because I make progression at night as well. | ||
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On December 22 2016 03:59 LightningStrike wrote: Sorry I was just way to pissed off that ExO still got lynched despite me and Koshi tried to start the wagon on Slam :\ I fine with a Kmatt lynch since Slam does look a bit better post lynch. Kmatt's early game talk is so weird around sicklucker which me and HF pointed out. Hopefully this game will get easier tonight. Rels is going to go ham. | ||
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It's the smiley. It is known that smiley is made by mafia way more often than town. It is known. | ||
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AND To top that off. My mafia buddy is SL, the one that would never lie about mindmelting with Rels. It's not that my opinion on Rels town play is high lately. But I don't think town Rels is capable of this. | ||
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On December 22 2016 08:57 disformation wrote: I think he is trying to say that I am either a partner with kmatt, rels or you and am setting up a ML on Rels after we lynch kmatt tomorrow. regardless of what kmatt flips. ah yeah. you are he. still. Horrible. | ||
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Pretty rich calling somebody out on TMI and setting up a ml while your defense is an omgus case based on the same TMI. | ||
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HF and disformation are both town. Equally sure about both. Disfo picked up his game nicely and people who still call him mafia are braindead or mafia. Slam is town hero. | ||
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On December 20 2016 09:19 Rels wrote: I'm caught up. disfo might be scum maybe, I didn't like his posts on SL and Slam these last few pages. But if the lynch was right now I would 1000% lynch exo. He's fighting very differently from the last game I played with him; in that one he OMGUSd every player that pushed him. Here he stated a reason for suspecting Koshi and Kmatt and repeated it over and This reads like shit. | ||
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1) Explain how you dieing means I am mafia? Why you? You didn't pressure me at all before saying that, why would I kill you, why not HF or sicklucker? 2) Accept the fact disformation is town. And give me extra reasoning why he is town. But accept it fully. I want you to write it down so you can't waffle around it anymore today. 3) Do you think HF is lock town for at least another day? | ||
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You did the same on Kmatt (first mafia, then town, both reads very weak and waffly) and on Exo you also made a very unconvincing post on why he was mafia. I can see from reading your posts you don't really believe what you write. | ||
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On December 22 2016 18:52 Rels wrote: Nothing can get me down today (= but no worries I'm town and I won't get lynched. I'm just getting started. With no kill tonight game is gonna be EZ I don't know what math you people are all using. But the no lynch literally does nothing xcept maybe open up a shot of gaining a ml later. | ||
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On December 22 2016 18:51 Rels wrote: But he's not the post you quoted, he's just repeating that he had a bad feeling about me earlier in the game. Yes. because it felt really natural how he first gave reads and then went "oh shit, there is also rels who I thought was mafia once, maybe he is mafia" That shit was good. Mafia slam might have been caught up in what he said earlier and wanted to keep his story straight or something. This was way more likely town slam. | ||
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On December 22 2016 18:55 Rels wrote: YOU CANT TELL ME WHAT TO DO 1) I had this thought while I was drinking, that everybody else would kill HF or you, but if you're scum you wouldn't kill HF 'cause he's in your pocket 2) nope 3) probably ... See. Who said ExO was very likely town the entire day? Koshi. Who was convinced he was a bad lynch when he came back. Koshi. Who said the opposite. Rels Who is saying Disformation is looking extremely townie lately. Koshi Who is saying the opposite. Rels. Who said Alakaslam his first voteswap from Rels to Disinformation was more likely to come from town and gave awesome reasoning? Koshi Who is saying Alakaslam has been showing an extremely townie mindset in every post he makes. Koshi Who said the opposite. Rels ... ... ... What game are you playing? | ||
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On December 22 2016 18:57 Rels wrote: well since you always think that of me early game unless I find a scum and destroy him, I dont care Well seems like you need to up your early game. | ||
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On December 22 2016 18:57 Rels wrote: Koshi you ever played with scum disfo ? Probably not. | ||
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On December 21 2016 11:12 disformation wrote: okay general thoughts: at least 1 scum on exo. i know im town. i think hf is town (let me look at his filter tomorrow). so at least one in: kmatt, sl, rels. if its two its not rels and sl. dont think they would hard tr each other over that mindmeld stuff. out of the three remaining players slam obv sticks out the most. and he apparently thought the deadline was later, so he didnt have time to "fix" that. one of ls and koshi might have the tmi factor going, but need to reread. but yeah tomorrow is filter time Correct analysis. Nothing here is being held back or is pushing an agenda. On December 21 2016 21:24 disformation wrote: I think its kmatt +1. partially because I think that the exo vs kmatt thing was not tvt. another thing is how he approached the exo wagon the whole day and then made quite a few strange posts right before eod after being "Nah exo didnt post anything that changed my mind". something is def. wrong surrounding rels. like the sl mindmeld on him, with rels tring sl super hard. the whole approach on me. he was also pretty waffly on exo at the start right? will be back later to look at some filters in more detail. tbh I am super looking forward to see, who the suspects are going to want to lynch themselves.  Super townie sentence. Rest of the post is ok. On December 21 2016 21:26 disformation wrote: especially after slam looks a lot better now. shows he uses PoE in his head. On December 22 2016 01:06 disformation wrote: So looking at filters for votes and stuff. part 1. LS (see my last post): looks more town than scum. not impossible to be scum. like if his partner is on exo and slam is town, he could have been trying to come up with a decent reason to not be on the same wagon. but I dont think his behaviour/tone match up with that. Slam starts pushing and voting Rels over Rels having a strange/wrong read on me. Rels rectifies his read on me and points out a pretty scummy post by me. Slam votes me and just returns b4 the deadline. still would liked for him to say something about why he was voting me, but in context it makes sense. I loved that part from the LS read here. Again shows that he in his head is putting a lot of value in the Vote Analysis. | ||
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shitty page. Nothing like here. http://www.liquiddota.com/forum/mafia/498635-dark-tournament-mini-mafia?user=disformation&page=12 Meh. http://www.liquiddota.com/forum/mafia/498635-dark-tournament-mini-mafia?user=disformation&page=11 there is a case on disformation on page 11. Just proofs apathy. Page 10 another big case on somebody. disformation scum loves his sarcasm and opportunistic shade trowing. Sometimes combined. | ||
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On December 20 2016 23:49 disformation wrote: Thing is you seem to be super aware that the mindmeld might sound constructed or something. Another thing is that, aside from the mindmeld, you like rels for posts that a lot of ppl called him out for (slam, koshi, hf). Nothing sarcastic, not opportunistic. Reads genuine. On December 21 2016 00:00 disformation wrote: well doesnt need to be planned. you just saw his posts and then decide to do that mindmeld thing. granted it would be super strange if you are town and he is scum. so that should mean either both of you are town or you are scum and he is town. like i dont think it would be impossible for you as scum to fake that mindmeld to like pocket him and push a ml or two together. i dont like that part where you say you dont care if ExO_ is a ML: though I am not sure scum would post it like this. you actually sound pretty happy/excited about having a 100% tr D1. Nothing sarcastic, not opportunistic. Reads genuine. On December 21 2016 00:04 disformation wrote: Am I not sure if this plan would be great as scum, but as you said you dont really plan. xD Posts like this are really different than his scumgame. In which he always made big cases to convince himself somebody was mafia. Here he applies pressure and can back off. But in the last mafia game he would have even in this sentence tried to convince the thread sicklucker is mafia. People change ofc. On December 21 2016 00:34 disformation wrote: There was def. something off in that exchange. It is like a reaction bait into a reaction bait into ExO_ being super pissed. And it def. doesnt read super natural. So I am thinking there is probably a scummer in there. Since ExO_ didnt come back to play, but only to fish for feels I am assuming the one scummer is him. For both to be scum I think they have to be cool with Kmatt getting enough cred off that to carry? Or they went to far and dont have the motivation to salvage it? Like Kmatt didnt have a huge thread presence in his other game either, so I dont think him going carry is like a plan. Unless they are like sicklucker and just wanted to do it. Like exo points out a mehish point on Kmatt for disassociation, Kmatt goes right back at him and either ExO_ gets pissed by that, or he tries to fake the game I linked? I guess it is not impossible, but it sounds fairly far fetched for me. Is this mafia being super opportunistic and setting up a double misslynch? Doesn't read like that. | ||
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On December 22 2016 19:21 Rels wrote: If you read the dark tournamenet filter you'll see that these types of posts is actually what he does as scum. General nice looking posts about the game and that fits with the thread leaders'view of the game. I was pocketed for the entire game in Dark Tournament and I'm seeing this in this game k let me show you oh boi. Teach me sensei. | ||
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On December 22 2016 19:32 disformation wrote: I think I remembered it coming up which was why I was looking for it, but for some reason I missed your answer on it. It was late, I got sloppy, I fucked up, sorry. But dont you think I would be more careful as scum? =D No I hate that excuse. | ||
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On December 22 2016 19:48 Koshi wrote: you really need to stop these sarcastic/opportunistic attempts to make people look like mafia. | ||
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On December 22 2016 19:37 disformation wrote: Yeah it was an attempt at a joke (hence the smiley) cause: Good joke. My mistake. Anger reaches my brain faster and blocks out other inputs. | ||
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On December 22 2016 19:45 Rels wrote: Funny dude. I'm writing a big post on you. Light my lantern on one thing please: why did you find Kmatt townie during the early game, he's in one of your town list, you liked my post about him being townie, then when HF mentionned him before deadline you reread his filter but suddenly he's almost as scummy as exo, who is super scummy in your mind ? If you are writing a town case add that into it. I am extremely sad I didn't take more time to read Kmatt EoD1 and got wrongfully focused on Slam. | ||
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On December 22 2016 19:58 Rels wrote: Cause he read his fitler and finds it townie. Then Kmatt had a good big post. Then way later HF mentions that he might be willing to swithc to Kmatt. Then disfo rereads his filter and finds Kmatt scummy but not-quite up to exo level. Yes and? You did the same thing. Exactly the same. | ||
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On December 22 2016 19:58 disformation wrote: Actually you asked multiple questions and I had to go back and remember my thoughts at the time. I think my early stuff on Kmatt was based on that I didn't like ExO_ and that gave Kmatt a good chance at being decently town. In the list you referring to, Kmatt is even still at the bottom of town. I liked his wall you liked his wall. I think everyone did so. Near EoD when HF brings him up I realize that he basically has done nothing, but pushing ExO_. I even remember talking to HF about that being more likely scum than town. Kmatt also had super bad posts around EoD. EXACTLY. exactly how it happened in my head as well. ExO decided to be a scummy fucker and I wrongfully made his counterpart town for that. | ||
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On December 22 2016 20:00 Rels wrote: What I didn't do is follow that pattern in every post of my filter lol | ||
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On December 22 2016 20:12 Rels wrote: The more I'm quoting stuff the more I'm convinced. Disfo actions were always after someone else did something. He has no idea what to do and he's copying It's actually possible to match almost every one of his posts with a post by someone else that was made before. Ok. If that is true. Maybe he is mafia. | ||
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On December 22 2016 21:02 Holyflare wrote: Yeh I see no point putting in any work when you scum read someone and they just decide to afk for the cycle. That's not fun. I was thinking about the sl thing tbh. Kmatt posted in his wall of text that sl is scummy and should be lynched if exo flips town but hasn't said a peep about sl or anything. Find it a bit odd. But I guess he hasn't been here at all either sooooo. Your certainty + lack of finding other mafia is disturbing. Maybe you are mafia after all. | ||
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On December 22 2016 21:25 Holyflare wrote: What posts of mine have sounded certain? I literally even posted I hope he comes back and is super towny. It's ok. I am just saying random things. | ||
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On December 22 2016 21:42 disformation wrote: Why did LS want to lynch slam together with Koshi and not Kmatt with HF then EoD? Like yes he thought Slam was the betterest lynch, but he was super hard defending ExO_... so if slam wasnt happening, wouldnt try to get 5 on kmatt instead make sense? He even has Kmatt in his PoE? Oh. He disappeared like 2h - 2h30 b4 deadline and returns shortly after: Though that is quite a convenient post to make for scum too... Still he missed HF suggesting: by 15 mins... *sigh* yeah I dunno I just want to see kmatt and LS come back and post a bunch. -.- Yes, he always said he didn't want to lynch Exo. But I think he didn't really push for a lynchtarget himself. Just saying he was sure ExO was not mafia. Without doubt LS didn't scumhunt enough D1. | ||
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On December 22 2016 21:45 disformation wrote: still think it is kmatt + x. dont see ls making that post if ls is x. buuuut thats also getting into the area of preflip association. so I think I should stop that. think it would be better for me to decide who the 2nd most scummy person after kmatt is. didnt someone say that LS posts way less as scum? can anyone confirm? What if Kmatt is not mafia and it is Rels + LS? | ||
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Rels is doing that. He doesn't really is open about Kmatt, calls him mafia as easily as town, and then is pushing his ml in disformation. | ||
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On December 22 2016 21:47 Rels wrote: I saw two posts that I think are pretty hard for scum!LS to make. These. This is his personality. If he was scum and working on imitating his town meta I don't think he would be able to replicate his natural naivety. Ofc he can. Being mafia doesn't remove that at all. | ||
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It could be that being mafia causes extreme anxiousness and then the naivety kinda gets absorbed/removed. But LS is under 0 scrutiny this game so your reasoning sucks. | ||
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On December 23 2016 00:30 Kmatt wrote: In my defense it's my second game and first town. And at no point do I claim to be good at this game. Don't worry. Just find mafia. Just keep typing stuff why you think people are mafia. Just do that. Ignore the dumbasses. Protip: Rels and LS are mafia so just focus on those. | ||
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On December 23 2016 00:41 LightningStrike wrote: Me and Rels being partners? Oh please where you got this idea from? There is nothing that connects you 2 except that you are both mafia. | ||
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On December 23 2016 00:48 LightningStrike wrote: Then how would we be partners if ther enothing that connects us? Also if he was my partner why would he townread so hard the way he been doing it? I think this picture describes your perfectly: ![[image loading]](http://static1.squarespace.com/static/53016c21e4b0484cf754d052/t/55536c41e4b0a7df4f94aa44/1431530562676/) Why haven't you bothered to find mafia this game LS? I thought you wanted to help me make town great again? You have done nothing. Even your D1 vote Slam just happened because I on that moment wanted to lynch Slam, if I wanted to lynch anybody else you would have went with that probably. Where is your scumhunting? Where is your read progression? Even on ExO. There is no progression. It is just you using meta and sticking to that. | ||
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On December 23 2016 00:51 LightningStrike wrote: Also where is your case on me fool? I don't see anyways Ithink you suffering from tin foil hat syndrome. Maybe take your tinfoil hat off. hahahahahhaahahahaha | ||
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On December 23 2016 00:50 LightningStrike wrote: Keep amusing me Koshi I am not getting lynched today we lynching Kmatt or no lynch. Is he your partner? | ||
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On December 23 2016 00:52 Kmatt wrote: I can see why you don't like LS this late in but why Rels? I saw a few people comment on him as I got caught up. I have already explained it but I will repeat because I have said a lot of random things already as well: - Rels is mafia because he is more likely pushing a mafia agenda over a town agenda. As you can see, he is pushing disformation for a while now, and his latest case (albeit it not being bad, but mafia can make an ok case from time to time) is a great example of how a mafia is solely able to focus on 1 thing to both look town and further the mafia agenda. Rels is missing key ingredients in his play that make him town, this is a bit harder to explain but a townie most of the time is able to discuss multiple things at the same time and can freely discuss his reads and ideas over a game. Rels has not yet shown this. He isn't playing bad as mafia but he is not able to really look town. The best thing is his waffle on Disformation D1, how he townread him but not really, how hard he sold his towncase while it was pretty bad and just based on 1 thing that was even incorrect. But then when he saw the opportunity to call disformation mafia he took it and is simply not letting go anymore. I can give more reasoning over why he is more likely mafia over town. But I am pretty sure we are reaching a point in which he is not town anymore. For example during the night. Him calling me mafia in case he died so dramatically showed that he had 0 feeling with what was really happening in this game. As town, he would never feel that, that was super unnatural. | ||
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On December 23 2016 01:00 LightningStrike wrote: I alreadyede listed who else I thought were scum sicker probably and you if you happen to live Day 3+ you are a very good player by reputation HF. Again. Another read with 0 fucking progression. You are skipping the road to gathering reads LS. Try to work on that next time you roll mafia. Every read you have is from nothing to a definitive read. As town you actually try to figure out stuff on your own. You are not doing that. | ||
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On December 23 2016 01:08 LightningStrike wrote: I did try to figure shit out on my own with ExO again you ignored that -.- I had sicklucker as poental scum for the most part of the game? HF is a good player as I had lost to him as scum often enough I do respect his scum skills. WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU EVEN DARE TO SAY. I LITERALLY SAID: I DO NOT WANT TO LYNCH EXO BECAUSE I RESPECT LS HIS META READ. You are mafia. ##unvote ##vote Lighteningstrike | ||
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Why is HF bussing his partner since D1? It is possible because he didn't actually went throught with Kmatt. But he is your main scumread for D3? What about Rels? You haven't commented on anything. Nha I cba. You are my vote till EoD. | ||
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Now that you have rightfully joined the wagon of justice and proofed you are at least better than 4 other people in this game. Can you look into sicklucker and Rels more in depth. Can they be mafia together? Don't worry about disformation or Alakaslam. They are lock town. | ||
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On December 23 2016 02:11 disformation wrote: Can you walk me through Kmatt? I'm pretty conflicted. my eyes dont bleed blood when I read his filter. So he does better than 2 people in this game. | ||
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On December 23 2016 02:21 Kmatt wrote: How am I "lost"? I mean I can entertain the thought of being seen as scum, but passing on a lynch is always bad, right? If we lynch without confidence there's a low% chance that we ML. If we don't lynch at all there's a 0% chance of hitting scum, and mafia won't NK themselves either. ignore the scrubs that are not on LS. Can you tell me why Rels and Sicklucker are not a mafia team? | ||
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On December 23 2016 05:10 Holyflare wrote: I mean koshi you're all over the place on rels/ls but you're going to ignore the fact that kmatt has lied about the night thing potentially since he's actually posted at night and played a game here before while posting at night. He had no scum reads because he forgot his actual list. I had to remind him of sicklucker which he drops like a lead balloon for absolutely 0 reason despite maintaining it's scummy? He mentions me as a scum read but hops on any wagon possible despite TOWN READING ls on day 1 and then making a throwaway comment to hop on. He leaves the thread after doing nothing. So much shit here. In all honesty. I started the day doing random shit because I didn't want a stale day waiting for a guy that might not show up. Wasting us a day. I don't know where we are now. My own feelings say Rels/LS but it makes more sense it is LS/Kmatt. Problem is that both sicklucker and Rels are pointing fingers at 2 people I think are town (hf & disfo) and somewhere I can see them be a team very maybe? Even though the more logical solution is both town? If 1 of them is mafia the other one is playing really badly I think. atm I don't see hf or disfo be mafia. hf based on activity and game progressing. disfo based on his last 160 posts. If they are mafia I am ok with losing to them because they simply played way better than the average townie. | ||
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Rels is playing really strong mafia and I can only call him mafia because I think he pushes mafia agenda. He ignores too many important moments, he has waffled , he has shown stupidity in how he reads people, and he has not convinced me of a single read so far. Or shown me something I agreed with, something original, even something small. Last time we were town together I could easily talk to him and feel progression in my head. This time we just fight. I don't think this is town Rels. I have already shown examples of everything I said here. But I can repeat. Kmatt is thougher. But I don't see the mafia agenda yet and I don't have meta. I think he is not "molded" yet by our playstyle. He brings his own game and I don't know if that game is mafia, it might just be not so good town. For example the overreaction after the flip into the silence kinda fits the fact he thought he could give a small reaction and then had to be silent for 24h. Also the fact that he just leaves for 24hours fits the "bad" vibe we get. Did he really decide to lie about this as mafia? I don't think so. I just think he is being honest. And tbh, I felt he was the townie person in the ExO vs Kmat thing at the start. Maybe they were both town and it showed more on Kmatt? Like... I can't really pin down anything scummy on Kmatt except odd and bad play. But in my world hopping on this LS wagon is pro town. That changes when LS flips town but I don't think he will. | ||
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The second time he reacted to me, not so long ago, he was instantly combative and a bit mean, he didn't try to salvage our relation but instead tried to discredit me. Which felt really off. So for me LS is lock mafia atm. Second one I don't know yet. Disformation and Sicklucker had a moment somewhere in the thread, right before I voted ExO. I think those 2 were helping each other progress their reads, it felt TvT. | ||
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On December 23 2016 08:58 Alakaslam wrote: I am thinking SL Rels but let me catch up. It seems Kmatt and LS are the ones up RN for some rsn? This guy deserves a medal and is the best player in this game btw. I hope he gets the trophy if for some reason town wins it. Just for this comment. | ||
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On December 23 2016 10:42 sicklucker wrote: he woundlt be koshi if he was not terrible tunneling some town. usually its me feels bad man This is antagonizing me + buddying Rels. He does the first as mafia. I remember. | ||
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On December 23 2016 21:22 Holyflare wrote: jesus christ this would be the easiest mafia win of my life Not true because LS and SL would actually play the game. | ||
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On December 23 2016 23:18 LightningStrike wrote: I would if people would be willing to him but currently you guys want to lynch so be it. I want to lynch you. Why are you ignoring me and my cases on you? | ||
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1) I started making cases on you during the night. Why did you ignore it while you were fully caught up and posting about the game. 2) Why are you trying to discredit my Rels/LS scumbuddy theory based on the trueness of the full theory? On December 23 2016 00:48 LightningStrike wrote: Then how would we be partners if ther enothing that connects us? Also if he was my partner why would he townread so hard the way he been doing it? I think this picture describes your perfectly: You are not even trying to convince me you are not mafia, you are just telling me that you and Rels are not mafia together and that I am crazy... Why? Why can't you just play the game and explain to me why you are not mafia and why Rels is not mafia or w.e. Why do you have to be so final again? 3) How you entered the thread this time. Why can't you comment on any of the cases I made on Rels/LS/SL/Kmatt? Why vote yourself? Why not just fucking proof you are not mafia and the mafia is within Rels/Kmatt/SL? | ||
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On December 23 2016 23:57 LightningStrike wrote: FUCK YOU i TOLD WHY i NOT DEFENDING MYSELF YOU JACKASS CAN'T YOU FUCKING READ? I think responses like this are just funny. | ||
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On December 24 2016 00:01 LightningStrike wrote: IN THE DEEP PITS OF HELL YOU SHALL DIE THERE I currently live there already. My punishment is to play mafia with you guys | ||
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On December 24 2016 00:03 LightningStrike wrote: I NOT FUCKING MAFIA AND YOU KNOW I ONLY VOTE MYSELF AS TOWN YOU IDIOT Don't you think it is pretty lame to confirm yourself town like this? It's against the spirit of the game. | ||
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On December 24 2016 00:05 LightningStrike wrote: IT NOT A LAME WAY TO DO IT lol. It literally is posting a townie seal like coag did. | ||
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On December 24 2016 00:03 Koshi wrote: I currently live there already. My punishment is to play mafia with you guys I wish I would die. But I am forced to queue game after game. | ||
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On December 24 2016 00:16 Koshi wrote: I wish I would die. But I am forced to queue game after game. I am slowly losing my soul. | ||
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On December 24 2016 00:55 LightningStrike wrote: Anyone want to lynch sicklucker with me he still not doing anything other than being a troll he normally would tryhard at this point? Sure. But you will need to convince others first. But you got my vote. | ||
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On December 24 2016 01:12 disformation wrote: i'm pretty pissed over ppl refusing to play the game. pro tip: if ppl vote/suspect you. post better posts. or at least try to. @hosts: i want a vig shot for christmas. doesnt matter if you shoot me or give me a shot. The information is in the thread. 71 pages is fine. It is annoying that they don't bleed town and make it us more easy. But I am pretty sure that if you know the answers and reread. It is possible to figure out the game. | ||
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On December 24 2016 01:53 LightningStrike wrote: Aklso I sorry Koshi I ready to work with you and now trying to get others I was just way to pissed. Sure. np. Can you just show us some analysis and thought progression in your reads? This game you always were absolute in every read. You decided ExO was town on meta and you just ran with that, you never stood open for anything, you were superabsolute about your read. You never found mafia during D1, you just hopped with me on Slam. During N1 you ignored me. Why? During D2 you have been hostile towards the thread and you have not yet tried to figure out the game on your own. I can understand it sucks to be tired and sick but now is the time to shine. 20% is defending yourself. 80% is now finding a good lynch. Have you read my analysis on Rels/Kmatt and sicklucker? What do you think? | ||
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On December 24 2016 01:55 LightningStrike wrote: Well it's because no one wants Kmatt so I rather go to my 2nd scum which is sicklucker. The reason sicklucker is scum because 1. He didn't try hard at all even during the night which he normally starts tryharding as town. 2. The fact that he still haven't by this point tryharded and no really doing anything fits his scum where if he thinks one of his teammates are in trouble he stops which point when I was up for lynch he decided then to start posting. You saw this in Cell Millionaire and in our last game together Koshi. about 2. From what I remember sl plays as mafia only when it benefits him. So him starting to play now and not when Kmatt is up for lynch shows town is getting closer. | ||
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On December 21 2016 06:35 Koshi wrote: Hmm cool. 3 people thinking LS is odd at the same time. Interesting On December 21 2016 06:36 sicklucker wrote: well thats probably because LS is mafia. Well I have things in my head telling me ls is mafia. But I also have things in my head telling me hes town On December 21 2016 06:37 sicklucker wrote: I remember ls is a less active mafia. which is hard to judge since hes not that active as town but there is a noticeable difference. here he claims to be sick lael | ||
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On December 24 2016 02:13 LightningStrike wrote: Because I saw all the votes on me and couldn't be bothered to be rationale about it and let it all out on you. I now trying to find your stuff on Kmatt and sicklucker. The correct answer was: "I was trying to cheat myself into getting an easy townread" As both alignments tbh. | ||
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On December 24 2016 02:15 LightningStrike wrote: Ugh I don't see anything about Kmatt past Day 1 Koshi or anything about why sicklucker is scum from you Koshi. No I haven't typed anything about sl. | ||
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On December 24 2016 02:16 LightningStrike wrote: I can see mafia dumb tell shit espcally from MD who dumb telled a couple of times in Stars Wars The Mafia Awaken hence why despite his dumb tells he could still be mafia. You think he posted 3 names intentionally as mafia day 3 and then only when somebody said there were 2 mafia he went for the credit? Impressive plays. | ||
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On December 24 2016 03:08 disformation wrote: so. ls makes sense as scum here if it is like exactly kmatt/ls? problmem: if both are pants on head town just sits in their qt eating popcorn. problem: if kmatt and ls are scum ill be super pissed if we loose to that. problem: if we lynch them and they flip town i wont be happy either. but voth have yet to give me stronk town vibes It is between Rels/sl/LS All others played well enough to not get lynched. | ||
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On December 24 2016 03:16 Holyflare wrote: If ls is the meta god now I'm fine going ls into sl. really? Why is ls town? | ||
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On December 24 2016 03:54 sicklucker wrote: but ls probably spewing me town wooT No you are both mafia. | ||
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On December 24 2016 04:01 Holyflare wrote: I dunno if disfo can be mafia but it makes sense to me. what does? | ||
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On December 24 2016 08:05 LightningStrike wrote: Well gg wp I guess I getting lynched regardless what I tried say to you guys because you all are brickwalls. Well. Brickwalls or mafia. | ||
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On December 24 2016 08:06 LightningStrike wrote: Especially you Koshi you refused to listen to me when I did tried to talk to you. I listened with open ears. But I didn't read any reason why I had to lynch sl except something meta like but I don't fully agree with it. | ||
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Well. There have been mafia in the past that defended even better than you did here. I don't know man.. 2 days into the game and I haven't seen you made posts that shows you are critically thinking about the game and furthering your reads step by step by information gathered in the thread. I think you are almost the only one. | ||
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On December 24 2016 08:09 LightningStrike wrote: Oh and don't forget about Rels if he lives by about Day 5 just lynch him with fire. pretty sure we lost by then. Why is disformation town? | ||
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On December 24 2016 08:11 LightningStrike wrote: I did try to scum hunt but you guys ignored it. Maybe. It's ok. If you are town we are too blame as well. Believed mafia lies too easily. | ||
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On December 24 2016 10:06 LightningStrike wrote: Koshi: Town self explaintory Slam: Town looked better after the ExO lynch with his responses to koshi rels: Scum if alive around Day 4/5: He a good player but he also did his own thing and made a decent case on disformation HF: Scum if alive past Day 3 or the scum team is so shit because he should never be alive past Day 3 as town due to him being one of the best players in tl mafia history. disformation: Probable mafia: See rels case it's decent enough. Kmatt: Scum: Probably was coached on how to fake dumb tells his leaps on his reads and shit were so unnatural. Sicklucker: Lynch with fire scum: See my meta case on sicklucker. Damn. First possible townie thing I saw. Are you so mad everybody is scum? Meh. | ||
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On December 24 2016 10:18 Holyflare wrote: 50% of ls's reads are "if this guy is alive he's mafia" The other 50% is questionable meta But if he is doc it doesnt matter.. | ||
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On December 24 2016 10:21 Holyflare wrote: I'm ok lynching ls just because I feel appalled by his behaviour and won't let it stand I am 99% certain he is mafia so w.e. Let's go for worst play in 2016. | ||
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On December 24 2016 10:23 sicklucker wrote: hes literraly trying to bribe hf with something that wont matter at all. Thats the most mafia thing in the world. You are so incredibly bad but it is fine. You are probably mafia anyway. Regardless of how ls will flip. | ||
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On December 24 2016 10:29 LightningStrike wrote: + Show Spoiler + + Show Spoiler + + Show Spoiler + + Show Spoiler + + Show Spoiler + + Show Spoiler + + Show Spoiler + My rage was totally fake I wasn't really mad sorry if I offended anyone! You are a great player my friend. Nice try. WP | ||
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On December 24 2016 10:34 Holyflare wrote: So kmatt is mafia? sl is mafia. It's obvious. | ||
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On December 24 2016 10:36 Holyflare wrote: Either sl or kmatt same thing. It's sl that needs to go first. No doubt. | ||
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The doc claim was made to try to get some stranglers to Kmatt. There is no way he is mafia because if he busses kmatt like that the real doc just claims and ls dies. So kmatt is now completely cleared. And like I said. I predicted you would come in the thread first even though sicklucker was the last one to post before the claim. So just lynch sicklucker and after that most likely Rels. | ||
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On December 23 2016 01:01 Koshi wrote: I have already explained it but I will repeat because I have said a lot of random things already as well: - Rels is mafia because he is more likely pushing a mafia agenda over a town agenda. As you can see, he is pushing disformation for a while now, and his latest case (albeit it not being bad, but mafia can make an ok case from time to time) is a great example of how a mafia is solely able to focus on 1 thing to both look town and further the mafia agenda. Rels is missing key ingredients in his play that make him town, this is a bit harder to explain but a townie most of the time is able to discuss multiple things at the same time and can freely discuss his reads and ideas over a game. Rels has not yet shown this. He isn't playing bad as mafia but he is not able to really look town. The best thing is his waffle on Disformation D1, how he townread him but not really, how hard he sold his towncase while it was pretty bad and just based on 1 thing that was even incorrect. But then when he saw the opportunity to call disformation mafia he took it and is simply not letting go anymore. I can give more reasoning over why he is more likely mafia over town. But I am pretty sure we are reaching a point in which he is not town anymore. For example during the night. Him calling me mafia in case he died so dramatically showed that he had 0 feeling with what was really happening in this game. As town, he would never feel that, that was super unnatural. But LS and sl kinda spewed Rels town. So annoying. | ||
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On December 23 2016 00:41 LightningStrike wrote: Me and Rels being partners? Oh please where you got this idea from? On December 23 2016 00:48 LightningStrike wrote: Then how would we be partners if ther enothing that connects us? Also if he was my partner why would he townread so hard the way he been doing it? I think this picture describes your perfectly: On December 23 2016 00:50 LightningStrike wrote: Keep amusing me Koshi I am not getting lynched today we lynching Kmatt or no lynch. And Alakaslam is possible town due to how LS went with me on him D1. But that isn't sure because LS kinda disappeared after I said I wanted to go slam and he followed me. | ||
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On December 21 2016 06:01 LightningStrike wrote: Okay I still don't think ExO is mafia based on meta and I still didn't see any real case on disformation unless I missed it somewhere in my skim. I pretty sure HF and Koshi are very likely town with their interactions with other people with their questioning. Dunno about sicklucker though seems very trollish early into not doing much. Kinda want to talk to him when he gets back to get a better read on him. Rels seems pretty townie too for his questioning and trying to push discussion on disformation but didn't see a real case on him :\ On December 21 2016 06:07 LightningStrike wrote: I honestly don't want to waste my vote on you especially considering how many people rather lynch ExO although I don't want to lynch him tbh. looks really bad for sl? | ||
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I still think this is funny. | ||
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On December 23 2016 10:42 sicklucker wrote: he woundlt be koshi if he was not terrible tunneling some town. usually its me feels bad man And this comment just sealed the fucking deal for me. This was so bad. I don't know. Felt 1000% mafia. | ||
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On December 24 2016 00:49 Koshi wrote: I like how sl is talking right besides LS. They are in the thread together alone, and sl just ignores him and votes him. high level. good post | ||
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On December 25 2016 01:13 sicklucker wrote: Also I want a sorry when you called me an idiot. I pointed out ls slipped he was fake claiming and all you could call me was an idiot Because it wasn't a scumslip at all. but w.e. I can find mafia in case you are really the doc but my answer is Rels the entire game already. | ||
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So I have 90 mins left and I am in a very good Xmas mood. | ||
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So tbh if there is a doc. Just counterclaim and lynch SL. If SL claims he did it to draw the nk simply call him a fucking piece of trash around a million times and lynch the fucker. | ||
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Made extremely good posts. I do not think he can make such quality posts as mafia. He makes better posts than I would if I was town with limited time. It is incredible how good his posts are. Maybe not correct at times, but incredible good. I would not lynch him the next days. Lylo it gets tougher maybe, I am not sure somebody like Rels or SL can ever become as town as the Slamfish. 6.Rels Made a couple good posts, which he can do as mafia. Especially the posts that hit you emotionally were on point. Didn't make enough town posts. The case on disformation was too much drama, the case itself was decent at face value but I don't like it because it doesn't show mafia mindset, it could just explains why disformation his posts became better. But I can see disformation be town, his playstyle is a bit like Xatalos. Always talking about the current situation but without extra flavor. Rels is too afk. Town Rels is way more involved in the game. He would have had 1 - 2 more good moments. Rels lacks a full view on the game. His tunnel on disformation looks pushing mafia agenda. Rels lacked the feeling of town Rels when I talk to him. It is too combative between us. Because he is so fucking horrible this game. It does not feel like talking to town Rels because his ideas are fucking stupid. Like his townread on disformation earlier. I made a good post that sums this all up and gives other examples before. Read it. 7.Holyflare Plays a very good game if mafia. I don't believe it atm and he outplayed me so he can have his fucking trophy. Yes, he could be mafia, but we lost and he won. Don't entertain the idea and just work with him. Use your braincells for something else than calling this guy mafia. Plays a very good game as town as well btw. 8. Kmatt I think he is town. LS first idea was to lynch this guy btw, when he came back the first time to call my theory that he and Rels were mafia tinfoil. When he came back the second time to babyrage I pushed him towards sl, he didn't have another choice, but then the third time close to deadline when LS claimed doctor he again went for Kmatt, and when we wanted to no lynch he still wanted Kmatt, he didn't want to no lynch because LS knew he was on borrowed time. So I think this guy is town. The 3 people mafia team was also pretty much a dumbtell. 9.disformation This guy is my 3rd option atm. tbh I think he is doc. But sure, if SL is really doc, then after Rels I would look at this guy. I don't know, I must say he completely outplayed me, I know he can play a really active and solving town game, he isn't doing that here, his first 60 posts in the game were fucking horrible, pure shit even, but he picked it up, did he pick it up by just repeating everything that sounded smart? I don't know, pretty brilliant. I also have at least 4-5 post shattered throughout the game that comes from a townie 80% of the time, I made marks in my brain, so if he is mafia he played really really well. Xcept for making a some shitposts and lacking scumhunting, but I would like people like him in my town anyday everyday. I can't believe he is mafia. But maybe he is. In lylo I would have a hard time picking between him and Slam. | ||
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sicklucker Rels disformation slamfish holyflare kmatt And kmatt is at the bottom cuz he got lucky. pushed by mafia because he was lynchbait. we didn't fall for it so he became confirmed town. It is possible LS did a sick bus, it is possible he faked his dumbtells. But I don't believe it. I can believe more that HF is playing his incredible mafia game again. So yeah... Maybe if HF doesn't die and is alive in lylo I would find this strange. It would be 3 vs 1 lylo so it should always be kmatt, slam, rels, disformation. If mafia kills Kmatt over HF I would reward their balls with giving HF some extra scumpoints. | ||
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Still don't think it is worth wasting braincells thinking he is mafia. Really made excellent posts if he is mafia. Extremely good. Really good if town. Extremely good if mafia. | ||
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On December 24 2016 08:16 LightningStrike wrote: Sorry but if you happen to be town I will eat a hat you hag. like this was just funny | ||
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On December 24 2016 09:02 LightningStrike wrote: Also I gave a alternative instead you fucking don't even consider sicklucker being mafia Holyflare what are you fucking dumb? How is sicklucker not a alternative? this is also telling hf is not mafia I think | ||
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On December 24 2016 09:02 LightningStrike wrote: For someone who is a lawyer you stupid I surprised you even got to law school because you are that dumb. hahahahahahahahahahaha. I love LS. See the difference is when I say it I actually mean it with 100% of my hearth. | ||
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On December 25 2016 01:11 sicklucker wrote: The correct response now koshi is to say. Thanks sicklucker for saving me night 1 Thanks sicklucker for sheeping me and hammering Ls with me since I knew you were town Thanks sicklucker for giving me another chance to win the liquidmania qulaifer before your nightkilled and not deserving Thanks sicklucker for eliminating the poe you have to figure out Thanks sicklucker for wifming mafia and giving you a chance to survive the night IF the next words out of your mouth are not thanks you can die in a grease fire as far as im concerned The bolded I thank you for in case you are actually truthful. The rest is bullshit | ||
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There were 2 instances in this game that Rels operated under the assumption that Kmatt was town when he really shouldn't. | ||
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I almost can't believe that it came from town Rels. | ||
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the only thing that gives me a bit pause is LS coming in the thread saying mafia Rels would never townread LS so hard. I found that extremely odd reasoning. Like TMI reasoning. | ||
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That being said. I did the same during D1. Rels reasoning for thinking LS was superbad though. | ||
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On December 22 2016 21:09 Rels wrote: AAAAAAAAAND here it is. ##Vote disformation so fake | ||
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On December 22 2016 21:47 Rels wrote: I saw two posts that I think are pretty hard for scum!LS to make. These. This is his personality. If he was scum and working on imitating his town meta I don't think he would be able to replicate his natural naivety. so bad | ||
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On December 21 2016 02:22 Rels wrote: SL burst of posts start of page 21 are more townie than the entirety of his filter last game. He has a lot of difficulties replicating that as scum o rly | ||
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On December 20 2016 18:32 Rels wrote: Why are you voting him then ? Because that literally never happened in the history of TL mafia. ... right ? p: I rock | ||
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On December 28 2016 10:30 iamperfection wrote: scores for qualifier coming soon Give me +1000000 Give sickluker -10000000000 | ||
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On December 23 2016 10:42 sicklucker wrote: he woundlt be koshi if he was not terrible tunneling some town. usually its me feels bad man Worst post I have seen forever. | ||
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On December 28 2016 10:31 sicklucker wrote: you called 8 people mafia and you got one right wow :D . I acualy lynched him I made the correct case mid D2. And you had nothing to say xcept the thing I just quoted. So fucking bad. | ||
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On December 28 2016 10:33 sicklucker wrote: you got the doctor to claim tho :D. you played good but not perfect It is not my fault you decided to go hard townread the guy who was mafia throughout the game. I can't see through so much bad. On December 23 2016 01:01 Koshi wrote: I have already explained it but I will repeat because I have said a lot of random things already as well: - Rels is mafia because he is more likely pushing a mafia agenda over a town agenda. As you can see, he is pushing disformation for a while now, and his latest case (albeit it not being bad, but mafia can make an ok case from time to time) is a great example of how a mafia is solely able to focus on 1 thing to both look town and further the mafia agenda. Rels is missing key ingredients in his play that make him town, this is a bit harder to explain but a townie most of the time is able to discuss multiple things at the same time and can freely discuss his reads and ideas over a game. Rels has not yet shown this. He isn't playing bad as mafia but he is not able to really look town. The best thing is his waffle on Disformation D1, how he townread him but not really, how hard he sold his towncase while it was pretty bad and just based on 1 thing that was even incorrect. But then when he saw the opportunity to call disformation mafia he took it and is simply not letting go anymore. I can give more reasoning over why he is more likely mafia over town. But I am pretty sure we are reaching a point in which he is not town anymore. For example during the night. Him calling me mafia in case he died so dramatically showed that he had 0 feeling with what was really happening in this game. As town, he would never feel that, that was super unnatural. On December 23 2016 01:04 Koshi wrote: ##unvote ##vote Rels and fucking LS BOTH ARE MAFIA Saw trough Rels his play and wrote it down perfectly and you go fucking antagonize me and call him top town. | ||
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On December 28 2016 10:35 iamperfection wrote: MVP = Koshi He qualifies 50 points for Sicklucker medic save two deciding votes on mafia 25 to holyflare mostly be default everyone else gets 10 sicklucker should get -500. But I'll take MVP. ty. | ||
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On December 28 2016 10:34 LightningStrike wrote: To be honest I did read you blue sicklucker but didn't think you were worth killing honestly and was hoping you would save HF instead of Koshi. Unlucky I guess GG WP Town my anger really was fake in fact I actually was laughing my ass off during it lol. I knew it I was laughing hard as well. | ||
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On December 28 2016 10:39 sicklucker wrote: I said everything about rels was mafia except that weird thing day 1 where I thought we would never mind meld twice as town. And then after awile it became I didnt want to vote him because then my word is meaningless XD. and then partly because I wouldnt deserve mvp lol stop doing drugs. | ||
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On December 28 2016 10:39 LightningStrike wrote: What you mean you knew it? Were you stalking me irl? :o lol ofc. Read your role pm through my binoculars. | ||
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On December 28 2016 10:40 sicklucker wrote: Koshi I was clsoe to saying something ingame because you brought this up along time ago where if your going out of line to have someone tell you. but I didnt want to be a bitch. but you were out of line says the person who feels the need to trashtalk the dead guy. | ||
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On December 28 2016 10:43 sicklucker wrote: if you dish you should expect to recieve. I sapsoe I should have brought something up in game Cool then we are even. And yes it is better if you say something when I am out of line because as town I can't help it most of the time if I am too invested by mass posting. | ||
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On December 28 2016 10:46 sicklucker wrote: like if you medic saved someone. then followed there read and lynched who they wanted to lynch. and then for some reason they wanted to lynch you and made you claim. you would be pretty annoyed too. espically when that person was mafia and literally wanted to kill me and claim my role Yeah but I totally disagreed with the fact LS scumclaimed with that. Like if he was the real doc he could easily say the same things. It wasn't a scumclaim. | ||
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