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Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
December 28 2016 21:47 GMT
#721
On December 29 2016 06:28 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2016 06:25 Grackaroni wrote:
On December 29 2016 06:23 disformation wrote:
gracks first 4 pages of filter have 0 content beside a decent point on koshi and TT.
then koshi makes a case on him.
bad defense + omgus follows.
THEN grack starts to play a bit and reads some filters.
still posts tons of useless oneliners.

And yet you liked what I had to say before! Your story is unravelling at the seams, my dear Fabian. Motives grow ever clearer!

Most of my posts are usually useless. I post what I feel like. That's how I play.

Nope I didnt like anything

I told you guys i was absolutely shitposting first half of D1 on purpose -.-

also: great, I think I wont be a big fan of you play/poststyle


Here is my problem about you Dis.

It was very clear to me that you were shitposting or just not taking the game seriously at the start due to the other game.

However since that game ended all I see different is that you are more active, but your posts read largely the same to me. Which is to say you are making a lot of snap judgments or surface reads but lack the deeper more waffely thinking I see from you as Town.

Like you were a super easy townread in the Liquidmania game from what I read, but here I just don't see it.
I can take that responsibility.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 28 2016 21:49 GMT
#722
wat? my posts in that game were super horrible esp. D1 =D

but okay. xD
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
December 28 2016 21:52 GMT
#723
On December 29 2016 06:29 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2016 06:08 Tictock wrote:
On December 29 2016 05:01 GlowingBear wrote:
On December 29 2016 04:16 Tictock wrote:
I don't think we should lynch into Koshi or Grack today as they could both be Town and I would rather see how they progress through the game then lynch one of them D1.

GB's more recent posts feel a bit better to me but he is still in a very narrow focus on Exo. Combined with his generic opening (he always opens like that, but usually with more WIFOM if he is Town to get reactions) I'm thinking this could be a mafiabear.

Dis is kinda stepping it up a bit today but am thus far not modivated to move my vote. I only got the fleeting sense of Town!Dis in one post, though I was apparently correct that he was phoning it in a bit due to the other game. Still very possibly mafia.

Chez and Slam are coinflips right now. I actually have Town leaning gut reads on them ATM but I have no idea how to explain those.

Darth is my top Town today kus he has multiple times posted basically the same thought process I've had about things and is just generally playing the game.

Everyone else I need to reread, and should prob reread GB as well.

Hopefully BtDt gets replaced.


Why do you think I'm Mafia?


It's more like I'm unsure on you than I think you are mafia. Gut read is mildly Town but head read is mildly scum.

I'm conflicted.

Stuff that makes me sus: your opening was bland, you seem unwilling to reevaluate Exo.


I've asked thousand times why people think he could be town because I was giving it a chance that he could be town. Nobody could explain it but saying "oh he pushed shit everywhere" which for me as a mafia trait. I'm pretty comfortable with my scum read on him. I'm not pushing him anymore today because almost everyone is townreading him and I'm sure I won't be able to lynch him today + I don't feel like putting the effort of writing a case right now.


I get that, it was your posts last night where my sus on you started kus you came in bashed Exo without really talking about anything new and then dipped out.

Having almost caught up at this point I think I can actually just call you Town. You've pushed a fair few things, stuck to your guns about Exo even when it's become an unpopular read, and have dropped a fair few thoughts about the rest of the game.
I can take that responsibility.
Time Traveler
Profile Joined December 2016
135 Posts
December 28 2016 21:52 GMT
#724
Wait, Grack actually wants Koshi dead after defending him? da fack. Guess I'll have to re-read
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 28 2016 21:53 GMT
#725
For what it is worth: I think TT is town now.

and I am somewhat less sure about Grack.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
December 28 2016 21:54 GMT
#726
On December 29 2016 06:33 GlowingBear wrote:
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On December 29 2016 06:32 Superbia wrote:
I'm going to sleep in like 5m.

I think dfis mafia. I think at least one of the policy lynches is mafia: slam/btdt/tt2/chez (?). Not sure about a 3rd. I think that if df is mafia grack could very well be a partner, but I dont have an individual read on grack


Uhm...

What happened to your TT scumread?


Please.

Nobody actually thinks I'm scum this game, I'm playing too well for anyone to catch me.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
December 28 2016 21:58 GMT
#727
On December 29 2016 06:35 GlowingBear wrote:
Actually
I'm not lynching disformation either. He has been here commenting stuff aswell.

Can we all agree on one target?


I can still lynch Dis despite him being around. Not sure why you think that makes him Town.

I'm open to lynching LS as well.

Other than that I'm not sure, I'm feeling a bit too lazy to recheck people at this point.

I guess we could flip the Slam coin.
I can take that responsibility.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
December 28 2016 21:59 GMT
#728
On December 29 2016 06:52 Time Traveler wrote:
Wait, Grack actually wants Koshi dead after defending him? da fack. Guess I'll have to re-read

I'm currently working on a Koshi post

My point regarding Koshi was based on his first post. I really dislike what he's done overall today.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
December 28 2016 22:00 GMT
#729
On December 29 2016 06:38 beentheredonethat wrote:
oh shit

forgot about this game, have my gf here :<

will catch up tomorrow.

voting tictock because I have to vote


What a waste of a good replacement possibility.

Also a terrible vote.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
December 28 2016 22:02 GMT
#730
On December 29 2016 06:42 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2016 06:41 Tictock wrote:
On December 29 2016 06:27 disformation wrote:
On December 29 2016 06:26 Tictock wrote:
On December 29 2016 05:36 disformation wrote:
LS was scum in the game I just played. dont think he is scum here.


Why not what is different?

Also didn't he fool you and a fair few people until D2 or something?

Look at the link I posted earlier


No.

I want your reasoning, not to make my own meta read on LS.

LS did have 0 reads/cases on his own last game. Huge swaths of AFKs backed by excuses.


Has LS made reads this game?

I only recall sheeping.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
December 28 2016 22:06 GMT
#731
On December 29 2016 06:52 Time Traveler wrote:
Wait, Grack actually wants Koshi dead after defending him? da fack. Guess I'll have to re-read


It's about half OMGUS based, but he doesn't like that Koshi is pushing him without interacting with him.

It's a fair point honestly, I just don't want to lynch Koshi today.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
December 28 2016 22:08 GMT
#732
I'd rather flip the BtDt coin than the Slam coin now tbh.
I can take that responsibility.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 28 2016 22:08 GMT
#733
thinking about what TT said. just cause it got me thinking.
this post is kinda #selfmeta so feel free to ignore this part.

a lot of my actual scumhunting comes from poe, sheeping ppl with good reads and vca. otherwise esp. on D1 i have been having problems with that. since this game has no town leaders and a bunch of coinflips sheeping and poe is a bit of a problem. dunno should prolly figure something out in the near future.

where i am currently at:

town: GB, TT, DF, Koshi, LS
less town: ExO_
scum lean: grack

null: btdt, tt2, slam, chez

and no most of these are not good "I am pretty sure cause xyz", these are pretty lazy/weak/easy reads, cause otherwise i would scumread everyone and get nothing done.

not sure what i should make of super coming in with that meh case on DF.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
December 28 2016 22:10 GMT
#734
I'm going to have to break this up into a series of parts
Koshi says:
Grack coming in defending me is mafia. He
But he never clarifies why this is scummy for me and not for other people. Plus I think that Koshi should be smart enough to understand the point that I had made. All I said was that I would read Koshi based on what he posted later, which is what I did. I think if he's going to argue that defending him is scummy he should apply that logic consistently, or give a reason why it should make me scummy over others.
On December 27 2016 11:58 Tictock wrote:
You don't read Koshi off one post where he says he might not be too active. You read him based on what he follows up that one post with.

Also he's been rolling town lately, so if he rolled Scum he could prob pull out the activity if need be.

Basically it is too early to read Koshi.

Exo not playing like total lynchbait is a bit more sus in my mind, but he is setting the bar for activity right now... Let's wait till he goes to bed, yell at him for not being around, then lynch him.

#day1plays

On December 27 2016 13:08 Alakaslam wrote:
Why we vote koshi

It's bullshit vote ayyyyy lmao

https://goo.gl/images/rgFnii

On December 27 2016 13:34 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2016 13:24 ExO_ wrote:
On December 27 2016 13:12 darthfoley wrote:
Yup the votes on Koshi are silly.

Also don't understand why ExO wants a biography about everyone's history of mafia playing. Seems very irrelevant and feels more scummy than towny. I legit don't understand why he's asking people about it.

Yayyy people claiming VT in a game of only VTs! Great plays.

I prefer Grack so far to be most town


I want to know, so I know what to compare it to (and in the case of timetraveler to figure out if its a smurf or not). And it's hardly the only thing I'm asking for.

The votes on Koshi are silly thus far? Then you think this is consistent with his town play? Or do you have somebody you are scum reading harder?


Well generally I think voting off of one post is a little much. I share your concern, considering Koshi's usual town play style is aggressive and quite good, but there's so much time left in the day.

I like Grack because he pointed out that people are putting pressure on Koshi, but not Alakaslam even though they had similar openings.

Also when digging through posts I noticed LightningStrike is arguing that I was trying to shift attention off of Koshi while ignoring TickTock, who could be argued to have done the same.
On December 27 2016 14:05 LightningStrike wrote:
Tbh Grack's defense of Koshi is a little bit strange can't remember if he did the same thing regarding me in my very first game together. Anyways I think we should leave Slam alone and see what he does because one of the ways Geript had a good read on to Slam is if Slam does his own thing which would mean he would be town so I rather see what he does later.


On December 27 2016 15:12 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2016 13:34 darthfoley wrote:
On December 27 2016 13:24 ExO_ wrote:
On December 27 2016 13:12 darthfoley wrote:
Yup the votes on Koshi are silly.

Also don't understand why ExO wants a biography about everyone's history of mafia playing. Seems very irrelevant and feels more scummy than towny. I legit don't understand why he's asking people about it.

Yayyy people claiming VT in a game of only VTs! Great plays.

I prefer Grack so far to be most town


I want to know, so I know what to compare it to (and in the case of timetraveler to figure out if its a smurf or not). And it's hardly the only thing I'm asking for.

The votes on Koshi are silly thus far? Then you think this is consistent with his town play? Or do you have somebody you are scum reading harder?


Well generally I think voting off of one post is a little much. I share your concern, considering Koshi's usual town play style is aggressive and quite good, but there's so much time left in the day.

I like Grack because he pointed out that people are putting pressure on Koshi, but not Alakaslam even though they had similar openings.


I'm also curious why Super is being overlooked in favor of Koshi. He made more posts but had far less content.

Instead TT was town for chill posting. Slam was a policy lynch. DF was null. But me defending him makes me mafia. Also he cites LS' post as evidence against me, which I don't think makes any sense because LS' whole post was saying that I was trying to deflect attention away from mafia Koshi.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 28 2016 22:10 GMT
#735
On December 29 2016 07:08 Tictock wrote:
I'd rather flip the BtDt coin than the Slam coin now tbh.

any particular reason?
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 28 2016 22:13 GMT
#736
hum. that is actually not terrible. hmm...
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
December 28 2016 22:15 GMT
#737
On December 29 2016 07:10 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2016 07:08 Tictock wrote:
I'd rather flip the BtDt coin than the Slam coin now tbh.

any particular reason?


Yea he is not getting replaced and made a shit vote.

Actually now that I think about it his post is total BS. We had a confirm phase so he totally knew this game was starting.
I can take that responsibility.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
December 28 2016 22:15 GMT
#738
On December 28 2016 06:40 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2016 03:32 Koshi wrote:
superbia good lynch

ExO town. Making bad assumptions and those more likely come from town. (I am demotivated, TiTr is from other site). If he is mafia he is doing a good job at bullshitting hard without it being obvious. His reaction to the "most lynchable" sentence of darth was really good. top town. Great post on Grack. Tip top town.

Grack coming in defending me is mafia. He also keeps it up without really trying to discover the alignment of other players. Double mafia. Going soft after LS after his townie post about grack makes him tripple mafia.

TT is town. Good posts + chill posting style. Great post on Superbia.

LS is more likely town. + Show Spoiler +
On December 27 2016 12:19 LightningStrike wrote:
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On December 27 2016 12:17 Grackaroni wrote:
I get that it's unusual for Koshi to fuck off, but he usually tries to make his scum play match his town play.

*yawn* Everyone tries to make their scum game like their town game.

<- townie bravure. Also like his Grack read. It was prudent. Town!LS style.

Alakaslam good plynch. Also defended me for no reason at all.

Disformation is looking extremely clueless. I am not sure if that makes him town or mafia not knowing wtf to do.

GB could be town. Brought a new wave of information/game solving when entering thread.

TiTr might be pushing mafia agenda calling a bunch of people town at the same time. Very bad thing to do, vary naive if he is town.

darthfoley is looking at the right places with his lynch. I don't like the order yet so nullish. Also didn't dislike his previous posts, but don't love them either.



tldr: 3 people are more likely town. GB/ExO and LS.

Grack
Disfo
Slam
TiTr
Superbia
darth
GB
TT
ExO

People calling ExO mafia should probably just unistall the game. Which for those people probably means unistall internet explorer.

People who think Grack is town should do the same. While Chez tries to cheat himself towards an easy townread (probably on accident, I didn't read his post) Grack is making sure people are not townreading him by using argumentation only mafia can know. I don't know if he scumslipped there, but it looks horrible. That and the fact he is now on 25 posts doing absolutely nothing game solving. Quite amazing.


My bad townread of Superbia boils down to the fact he is a boring townie interacting with the hosts because scumhunting isn't his forte anyway. lol. last part was a joke. or maybe not.

Putting disformation also high on the scumlist. Still have no clue what he is doing, but everything he does looks forced and terrible.

Then Koshi follows up with this bolded opportunistic bullshit. I got the role PM thing from the OP, which he could spend 5 minutes checking before rushing to try to condemn me.

I've already pointed out that Koshi's push here is completely uncharacteristic of Koshi from his past postings, and is likely bullshit that he does not truly believe. He knows that not wanting to rely on role PMs to solve the game isn't scummy.
On December 28 2016 11:53 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2016 06:40 Koshi wrote:
On December 28 2016 03:32 Koshi wrote:
superbia good lynch

ExO town. Making bad assumptions and those more likely come from town. (I am demotivated, TiTr is from other site). If he is mafia he is doing a good job at bullshitting hard without it being obvious. His reaction to the "most lynchable" sentence of darth was really good. top town. Great post on Grack. Tip top town.

Grack coming in defending me is mafia. He also keeps it up without really trying to discover the alignment of other players. Double mafia. Going soft after LS after his townie post about grack makes him tripple mafia.

TT is town. Good posts + chill posting style. Great post on Superbia.

LS is more likely town. + Show Spoiler +
On December 27 2016 12:19 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2016 12:17 Grackaroni wrote:
I get that it's unusual for Koshi to fuck off, but he usually tries to make his scum play match his town play.

*yawn* Everyone tries to make their scum game like their town game.

<- townie bravure. Also like his Grack read. It was prudent. Town!LS style.

Alakaslam good plynch. Also defended me for no reason at all.

Disformation is looking extremely clueless. I am not sure if that makes him town or mafia not knowing wtf to do.

GB could be town. Brought a new wave of information/game solving when entering thread.

TiTr might be pushing mafia agenda calling a bunch of people town at the same time. Very bad thing to do, vary naive if he is town.

darthfoley is looking at the right places with his lynch. I don't like the order yet so nullish. Also didn't dislike his previous posts, but don't love them either.



tldr: 3 people are more likely town. GB/ExO and LS.

People who think Grack is town should do the same. While Chez tries to cheat himself towards an easy townread (probably on accident, I didn't read his post) Grack is making sure people are not townreading him by using argumentation only mafia can know. I don't know if he scumslipped there, but it looks horrible. That and the fact he is now on 25 posts doing absolutely nothing game solving. Quite amazing.

Now as for the next point, I find it quite sad
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2016 07:20 Koshi wrote:
On October 04 2016 07:16 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On October 04 2016 07:00 Grackaroni wrote:
Lol NU I think the rule is pretty well defined.


I do not. Hence why I ask. I would like specific examples to know whether the rules prohibit me from being mod confirmed.

rules? What about your honor as a player.
I already know what this is about and it is superlame. superlame.

that all talk of honor was but a mere fad.

Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5188 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-28 22:32:58
December 28 2016 22:17 GMT
#739
Vote Count


Grackaroni (3) : Koshi, LightningStrike, disformation
Superbia (1) : darthfoley,
disformation (2) : Tictock, GlowingBear
Koshi (1) : ExO_, LightningStrike, Grackaroni
Tictock (1) : ExO_, beentheredonethat,
Alakaslam (1) : ExO_, disformation
Darthfoley (1): Superbia,
BeenTheredonethat(1): Time Traveler
LightningStrike (0) : Grackaroni, disformation
ExO_ (0) : disformation, GlowingBear

Not voting (2) : Alakaslam, Chezinu,

Currently, Grackaroni is set to be lynched!
The day phase will end at Thursday, Dec 29 12:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), just under 3 1/2 hours from this post.
remain as you are reading this.

Remember, voting is mandatory! Place your votes in the voting thread.

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Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
December 28 2016 22:17 GMT
#740
Fuck it let's YoLo lynch BtDt.

##Vote: Beentheredonethat
I can take that responsibility.
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