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On October 31 2016 09:24 NeverUnlucky wrote: Sure. c: One more /in.
This is what is going to happen this game:
1. I will roll town. 2. Game starts; unoriginal players'll say "First confirmed town!" 3. One town will have a weird or even scummy entry. 4. Calix will tunnel said player. NeverUnlucky will have a good read on Calix based on the tunnel. 5. Said town will claim that the intent behind his entry was to stir up conversation. 6. Everyone will mock him and some will town-read him. 7. Active players’ll shitpost, lurkers’ll lurk. 8. One player will case another player who’ll become the main wagon, but the case is weak, thus : 9. People will initiate a CFD at EoD, and a town will die.
You clearly have an agenda.
FoS: NeverUnlucky
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I'm familiar with Matrix6, I don't really need a coach for mechanics unless there is a notable difference in implementation between this site and MS.
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On October 31 2016 20:49 cakepie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2016 18:55 Foreman wrote: I don't really need a coach for mechanics Coaches are good for much more than just mechanics!
Okay.
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On October 31 2016 21:33 Shapelog wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2016 18:50 Foreman wrote:On October 31 2016 09:24 NeverUnlucky wrote: Sure. c: One more /in.
This is what is going to happen this game:
1. I will roll town. 2. Game starts; unoriginal players'll say "First confirmed town!" 3. One town will have a weird or even scummy entry. 4. Calix will tunnel said player. NeverUnlucky will have a good read on Calix based on the tunnel. 5. Said town will claim that the intent behind his entry was to stir up conversation. 6. Everyone will mock him and some will town-read him. 7. Active players’ll shitpost, lurkers’ll lurk. 8. One player will case another player who’ll become the main wagon, but the case is weak, thus : 9. People will initiate a CFD at EoD, and a town will die.
You clearly have an agenda. FoS: NeverUnlucky Actually, all he has done, is back himself in a corner with you if he is scum. See number 4 states that he will have a good read on you, in the case that you tunnel. If no such read was to come, or a crappy one, then he would look less credible. Perhaps, you could argue that 6 could set up a possible scum read for him (if people keep scum reading him) but that is weak. He also is forced in this to read the "One town with a weird entry" as town, due to wording. Which is bad for scum, as it knocks off a ML for day 1 at least. In fact, the only way this benefits scum is if the person to make the weird entry is scum buddies, which is a high risk, low reward (a weak reason to TR at most) move IMO The rest of it is unpredictable and useless, since it revolves on other players doing it. Sorry, regaining my mafia mindset. EDIT: He also would have to point out the case is weak too due to #8 and make reads accordly.
I just wanted to stir up conversation.
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On November 03 2016 03:08 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2016 03:06 ExO_ wrote:On November 03 2016 03:04 Calix wrote: NU's boring. Nothing new to see there.
ExO, should I be asking why you're not 'largely communicating in gifs'? Don't get me wrong, I'm glad you're not, but I'm curious as to what made you change your mind. So if you ARE mainly communicating in gifs then why claim a role first thing before doing that? Seems illogical for town to do.
Way to overanalyze. So tryhard that it makes me think I should
##Vote Calix
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On November 03 2016 03:20 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2016 03:19 Foreman wrote:On November 03 2016 03:08 Calix wrote:On November 03 2016 03:06 ExO_ wrote:On November 03 2016 03:04 Calix wrote: NU's boring. Nothing new to see there.
ExO, should I be asking why you're not 'largely communicating in gifs'? Don't get me wrong, I'm glad you're not, but I'm curious as to what made you change your mind. So if you ARE mainly communicating in gifs then why claim a role first thing before doing that? Seems illogical for town to do. Way to overanalyze. So tryhard that it makes me think I should ##Vote Calix Sheep vote noted. How is claiming that posting gifs after claiming a role tryhard?
So you accuse me of sheeping, then question my push.
Discredit noted.
Giving somebody crap for not shitting up the thread has a couple different scum motivations behind it:
1) You are going after an easy target for not doing what they said they'd do (after they got some friction about it when they announced it, iirc?)
2) Your post clearly nudged them to return to that practice despite your transparent disclaimer, which would be pro-scum if they were to do so.
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On November 03 2016 03:21 Calix wrote: And as a side note, how is being tryhard a scum tell?
Because you're looking for an excuse to accuse somebody of being scum where no scum motive is present.
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On November 03 2016 03:33 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2016 03:29 Foreman wrote:On November 03 2016 03:20 Calix wrote:On November 03 2016 03:19 Foreman wrote:On November 03 2016 03:08 Calix wrote:On November 03 2016 03:06 ExO_ wrote:On November 03 2016 03:04 Calix wrote: NU's boring. Nothing new to see there.
ExO, should I be asking why you're not 'largely communicating in gifs'? Don't get me wrong, I'm glad you're not, but I'm curious as to what made you change your mind. So if you ARE mainly communicating in gifs then why claim a role first thing before doing that? Seems illogical for town to do. Way to overanalyze. So tryhard that it makes me think I should ##Vote Calix Sheep vote noted. How is claiming that posting gifs after claiming a role tryhard? So you accuse me of sheeping, then question my push. Discredit noted. Giving somebody crap for not shitting up the thread has a couple different scum motivations behind it: 1) You are going after an easy target for not doing what they said they'd do (after they got some friction about it when they announced it, iirc?) 2) Your post clearly nudged them to return to that practice despite your transparent disclaimer, which would be pro-scum if they were to do so. You are voting right after I received a vote. There is no discrediting here, only using evidence to draw a conclusion. Why would I not question your push? I don't consider 'tryhard' to be a scum-tell and wanted to know what your logic was for thinking so. I am not scum-reading ExO. That's not 'going after an easy target', it's asking for a response to a simple question. No it didn't. I asked why they weren't doing it. That cannot be interpreted as a subtle nudge to keep doing it in any world. It's not pro-scum. It's anti-town.
Sheeping is voting using somebody else's reasons. I voted with my own push.
Not the same thing.
If you're not scumreading ExO, your vote is in the wrong place.
Shitting up a thread is pro-scum because it allows scum to more easily hide in the noise it creates.
I may be new to this site, but don't think for a second that means you can bullshit me.
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On November 03 2016 03:40 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2016 03:38 Foreman wrote:On November 03 2016 03:33 Calix wrote:On November 03 2016 03:29 Foreman wrote:On November 03 2016 03:20 Calix wrote:On November 03 2016 03:19 Foreman wrote:On November 03 2016 03:08 Calix wrote:On November 03 2016 03:06 ExO_ wrote:On November 03 2016 03:04 Calix wrote: NU's boring. Nothing new to see there.
ExO, should I be asking why you're not 'largely communicating in gifs'? Don't get me wrong, I'm glad you're not, but I'm curious as to what made you change your mind. So if you ARE mainly communicating in gifs then why claim a role first thing before doing that? Seems illogical for town to do. Way to overanalyze. So tryhard that it makes me think I should ##Vote Calix Sheep vote noted. How is claiming that posting gifs after claiming a role tryhard? So you accuse me of sheeping, then question my push. Discredit noted. Giving somebody crap for not shitting up the thread has a couple different scum motivations behind it: 1) You are going after an easy target for not doing what they said they'd do (after they got some friction about it when they announced it, iirc?) 2) Your post clearly nudged them to return to that practice despite your transparent disclaimer, which would be pro-scum if they were to do so. You are voting right after I received a vote. There is no discrediting here, only using evidence to draw a conclusion. Why would I not question your push? I don't consider 'tryhard' to be a scum-tell and wanted to know what your logic was for thinking so. I am not scum-reading ExO. That's not 'going after an easy target', it's asking for a response to a simple question. No it didn't. I asked why they weren't doing it. That cannot be interpreted as a subtle nudge to keep doing it in any world. It's not pro-scum. It's anti-town. Sheeping is voting using somebody else's reasons. I voted with my own push. Not the same thing. If you're not scumreading ExO, your vote is in the wrong place. Shitting up a thread is pro-scum because it allows scum to more easily hide in the noise it creates. I may be new to this site, but don't think for a second that means you can bullshit me. Correction. I am not voting for ExO and you should be suspicious of me if I was given that you (correctly) think I am not scum-reading him.
My fault, it is NU that voted for them.
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On November 03 2016 03:38 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2016 03:36 ExO_ wrote:On November 03 2016 03:35 Calix wrote:On November 03 2016 03:29 ExO_ wrote: Also to clarify why I'm claiming my VT role right now:
I'm getting it out the open right now. I think in a game this size trying to fake claim to get scum to target me would be a waste of time. So I'm letting everyone know now I don't have any abilities I cannot do anything at night and can only vote. You can choose to either believe me or not, but I'm telling the truth This is another example of anti-town behaviour which I do not agree with. That is NOT the same as pro-scum. Allow me to clear that one up. Some people seem to be misinterpreting my stance on ExO as "scum-lean" when it's not. You cannot claim I'm being anti-town and then back away from it saying I'm not being pro scum anti-town=pro scum And how is this anti-town behavior anyway? You're 100% scum and you messed up already. ez game Incorrect. Pro-scum behaviour is something that ONLY scum are capable of doing. Town never act in pro-scum ways (short of game-throwing which isn't 'playing' the game anyway) because they are town and their actions are, in their own way, working towards their wincon of finding and eliminating scum. Anti-town behaviour is only detrimental to town and is done by both alignments. (e.g., shit-posting)
Incorrect.
Pro-scum is anything that actively helps scum and can be done by either alignment. Village idiots are often pro-scum as well as anti-town.
Anti-town hinders town, but does not actively help scum.
Creating noise in the game thread is pro-scum because it actively helps scum hide or gives them an excuse to lay low.
Pushing for a lynch on moonlogic grounds is anti-town because that moonlogic lynch might be on either scum or town.
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On November 03 2016 04:01 mahrgell wrote: @Foreman Now that you noticed your misread. Are you still going after Calix, or have you shifted your focus on NU? Would the argument you made for Calix also apply to NU? Or where do you see the difference there?
The fact he isn't voting ExO does not make his push any less disingenuous.
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On November 03 2016 04:14 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2016 04:10 Foreman wrote:On November 03 2016 04:01 mahrgell wrote: @Foreman Now that you noticed your misread. Are you still going after Calix, or have you shifted your focus on NU? Would the argument you made for Calix also apply to NU? Or where do you see the difference there? The fact he isn't voting ExO does not make his push any less disingenuous. Knock knock, Calix is here, asking you to read my NU case like a good dear. Is my NU case also disingenuous? If so, how?
Considering you've yet to acquit yourself for that shady ExO push, I'm not concerned about your NU push when he isn't even here to respond to it.
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On November 03 2016 04:20 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2016 04:17 Foreman wrote:On November 03 2016 04:14 Calix wrote:On November 03 2016 04:10 Foreman wrote:On November 03 2016 04:01 mahrgell wrote: @Foreman Now that you noticed your misread. Are you still going after Calix, or have you shifted your focus on NU? Would the argument you made for Calix also apply to NU? Or where do you see the difference there? The fact he isn't voting ExO does not make his push any less disingenuous. Knock knock, Calix is here, asking you to read my NU case like a good dear. Is my NU case also disingenuous? If so, how? Considering you've yet to acquit yourself for that shady ExO push, I'm not concerned about your NU push when he isn't even here to respond to it. Why do I need to 'acquit myself' for you to take my NU case seriously? You either agree with it or you don't. My 'credibility' has nothing to do with wherever you think I make valid points on NU. Poor reaction from you.
Lol whatever dude.
I'm not wasting my time humoring scum, and right now that's what you are to me.
If you want me to take you seriously, I suggest you take me seriously.
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On November 03 2016 04:22 mahrgell wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2016 04:17 Foreman wrote:On November 03 2016 04:14 Calix wrote:On November 03 2016 04:10 Foreman wrote:On November 03 2016 04:01 mahrgell wrote: @Foreman Now that you noticed your misread. Are you still going after Calix, or have you shifted your focus on NU? Would the argument you made for Calix also apply to NU? Or where do you see the difference there? The fact he isn't voting ExO does not make his push any less disingenuous. Knock knock, Calix is here, asking you to read my NU case like a good dear. Is my NU case also disingenuous? If so, how? Considering you've yet to acquit yourself for that shady ExO push, I'm not concerned about your NU push when he isn't even here to respond to it. Why not? Following multiple leads is not bad for town. And even if we flip Calix in the end, no matter what color it is, having his talking points discussed would be beneficial to town. So I can't understand that refusal to comment on it. Especially as I would be very interested in your opinion. Don't worry, we won't forget about Calix. And if you feel it got forgotten, ust bring it up later again, if someone wants to balem you for it, just forward it to me.
Because scum has every reason to make bad pushes on town.
Unless I'm convinced that I'm wrong on Calix, I'm not getting invested in his pushes.
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On November 03 2016 04:24 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2016 04:23 Foreman wrote:On November 03 2016 04:20 Calix wrote:On November 03 2016 04:17 Foreman wrote:On November 03 2016 04:14 Calix wrote:On November 03 2016 04:10 Foreman wrote:On November 03 2016 04:01 mahrgell wrote: @Foreman Now that you noticed your misread. Are you still going after Calix, or have you shifted your focus on NU? Would the argument you made for Calix also apply to NU? Or where do you see the difference there? The fact he isn't voting ExO does not make his push any less disingenuous. Knock knock, Calix is here, asking you to read my NU case like a good dear. Is my NU case also disingenuous? If so, how? Considering you've yet to acquit yourself for that shady ExO push, I'm not concerned about your NU push when he isn't even here to respond to it. Why do I need to 'acquit myself' for you to take my NU case seriously? You either agree with it or you don't. My 'credibility' has nothing to do with wherever you think I make valid points on NU. Poor reaction from you. Lol whatever dude. I'm not wasting my time humoring scum, and right now that's what you are to me. If you want me to take you seriously, I suggest you take me seriously. Ah, it's the MS classic of "you're totally scum so I'm ignoring everything you say" shtick. How anyone has such a strong read that they are willing to dismiss everything that I say post-scum-read with less than 200 posts in the entire thread is beyond me. So do explain, how have you concluded that I'm so scummy this early on?
You've yet to address any of my points against you with anything but hand-waving.
My case did not hinge on your vote, so that correction was a minor note, not a read changer.
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On November 03 2016 04:31 mahrgell wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2016 04:26 Foreman wrote:On November 03 2016 04:22 mahrgell wrote:On November 03 2016 04:17 Foreman wrote:On November 03 2016 04:14 Calix wrote:On November 03 2016 04:10 Foreman wrote:On November 03 2016 04:01 mahrgell wrote: @Foreman Now that you noticed your misread. Are you still going after Calix, or have you shifted your focus on NU? Would the argument you made for Calix also apply to NU? Or where do you see the difference there? The fact he isn't voting ExO does not make his push any less disingenuous. Knock knock, Calix is here, asking you to read my NU case like a good dear. Is my NU case also disingenuous? If so, how? Considering you've yet to acquit yourself for that shady ExO push, I'm not concerned about your NU push when he isn't even here to respond to it. Why not? Following multiple leads is not bad for town. And even if we flip Calix in the end, no matter what color it is, having his talking points discussed would be beneficial to town. So I can't understand that refusal to comment on it. Especially as I would be very interested in your opinion. Don't worry, we won't forget about Calix. And if you feel it got forgotten, ust bring it up later again, if someone wants to balem you for it, just forward it to me. Because scum has every reason to make bad pushes on town. Unless I'm convinced that I'm wrong on Calix, I'm not getting invested in his pushes. Well... So you refuse to answer me, because I share points with Calix on this issue? So I'm now scum by association for you? Doing that after posting large paragraphs about "what kind of behaviour is protown"?
No... Your "points" were "read Calix points".
I'm not interested in his push until he does more than handwave and discredit me, and you echoing him doesn't change that.
If you want to sheep his push, then whatever. But don't act like you are being original here.
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If Calix is town, there's a fair chance that marghell is scum.
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Calix, talk to me about marghell.
What do you make of his sheeping and buddying?
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On November 03 2016 05:01 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2016 04:59 Foreman wrote: Calix, talk to me about marghell.
What do you make of his sheeping and buddying? How is he sheeping? He said he agreed with my case with some additional comments. I was initially paranoid that he was trying to pocket me. That was my fear until he made the "lol I don't want to think like Calix" comment. That seems too weird to be a buddying attempt to me. Why would mahrgell be scum if I am town exactly?
I said fair chance, not sure thing.
He's being your echo chamber. I think he realized that and had to distance a bit, hence the rude remark.
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On November 03 2016 05:05 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2016 05:00 Calix wrote:On November 03 2016 04:58 Skynx wrote:On November 03 2016 04:56 Calix wrote:On November 03 2016 04:54 Skynx wrote:On November 03 2016 04:53 Calix wrote:On November 03 2016 04:50 Skynx wrote: None of what happened so far is AI guys please... Then do something that will make AI posts happen. What is the point of sitting around and complaining that people are making early reads exactly? What is the point of spamming bunch of stuff that doesn't have anything to do with anything other than increasing postcount for people that are not here yet? To generate conversation so that the not-yet-here people have something constructive to add, of course. What is your strategy to find scum if we're doing a poor job of it? Add something constructive when i find opportunity to do so. Like I'm doing now, stopping you guys go overboard with surjective NAI stuff cuz it really means absolutely nothing what you guys accuse each other for in past few pages Oh wonderful, that means that you can tell us how my case on NU doesn't show scum-indicative behaviour Do you have any reads at all? I'm skeptical that you have no initial impressions at all. Here is what happened; Calix sr Exo (gif stuff) Exo sr Calix (doesn't like his push) Everyone sr Everyone (because all pushes are very surjective and doesn't mean anything and everyone is aware of that so might aswell sr the others) What you are asking right now makes sense in that regard as me suggesting you guys pushing NAI stuff on eachother means I should also sr you guys but its just not right and this is all really nothing productive in the end.
Here is what happened:
Skynx entered thread Skynx complained about unproductive content Skynx provided unproductive content
What you are doing right now is worse than anything you've complained about, because you should be of the mindset that providing even more unproductive content would only make our situation worse, given your remarks.
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On November 03 2016 05:14 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2016 05:11 Foreman wrote:On November 03 2016 05:05 Skynx wrote:On November 03 2016 05:00 Calix wrote:On November 03 2016 04:58 Skynx wrote:On November 03 2016 04:56 Calix wrote:On November 03 2016 04:54 Skynx wrote:On November 03 2016 04:53 Calix wrote:On November 03 2016 04:50 Skynx wrote: None of what happened so far is AI guys please... Then do something that will make AI posts happen. What is the point of sitting around and complaining that people are making early reads exactly? What is the point of spamming bunch of stuff that doesn't have anything to do with anything other than increasing postcount for people that are not here yet? To generate conversation so that the not-yet-here people have something constructive to add, of course. What is your strategy to find scum if we're doing a poor job of it? Add something constructive when i find opportunity to do so. Like I'm doing now, stopping you guys go overboard with surjective NAI stuff cuz it really means absolutely nothing what you guys accuse each other for in past few pages Oh wonderful, that means that you can tell us how my case on NU doesn't show scum-indicative behaviour Do you have any reads at all? I'm skeptical that you have no initial impressions at all. Here is what happened; Calix sr Exo (gif stuff) Exo sr Calix (doesn't like his push) Everyone sr Everyone (because all pushes are very surjective and doesn't mean anything and everyone is aware of that so might aswell sr the others) What you are asking right now makes sense in that regard as me suggesting you guys pushing NAI stuff on eachother means I should also sr you guys but its just not right and this is all really nothing productive in the end. Here is what happened: Skynx entered thread Skynx complained about unproductive content Skynx provided unproductive content What you are doing right now is worse than anything you've complained about, because you should be of the mindset that providing even more unproductive content would only make our situation worse, given your remarks. Last paragraph is the first thing that Foreman's posted that I really like.
This begs the question... What do you object to in the preceding paragraph?
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On November 03 2016 05:27 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2016 05:24 Foreman wrote:On November 03 2016 05:14 Calix wrote:On November 03 2016 05:11 Foreman wrote:On November 03 2016 05:05 Skynx wrote:On November 03 2016 05:00 Calix wrote:On November 03 2016 04:58 Skynx wrote:On November 03 2016 04:56 Calix wrote:On November 03 2016 04:54 Skynx wrote:On November 03 2016 04:53 Calix wrote: [quote]
Then do something that will make AI posts happen.
What is the point of sitting around and complaining that people are making early reads exactly? What is the point of spamming bunch of stuff that doesn't have anything to do with anything other than increasing postcount for people that are not here yet? To generate conversation so that the not-yet-here people have something constructive to add, of course. What is your strategy to find scum if we're doing a poor job of it? Add something constructive when i find opportunity to do so. Like I'm doing now, stopping you guys go overboard with surjective NAI stuff cuz it really means absolutely nothing what you guys accuse each other for in past few pages Oh wonderful, that means that you can tell us how my case on NU doesn't show scum-indicative behaviour Do you have any reads at all? I'm skeptical that you have no initial impressions at all. Here is what happened; Calix sr Exo (gif stuff) Exo sr Calix (doesn't like his push) Everyone sr Everyone (because all pushes are very surjective and doesn't mean anything and everyone is aware of that so might aswell sr the others) What you are asking right now makes sense in that regard as me suggesting you guys pushing NAI stuff on eachother means I should also sr you guys but its just not right and this is all really nothing productive in the end. Here is what happened: Skynx entered thread Skynx complained about unproductive content Skynx provided unproductive content What you are doing right now is worse than anything you've complained about, because you should be of the mindset that providing even more unproductive content would only make our situation worse, given your remarks. Last paragraph is the first thing that Foreman's posted that I really like. This begs the question... What do you object to in the preceding paragraph? Nothing. It's a summary of Skynx's behaviour which anyone can do. Nothing to note there. I used the intensifier 'really' to make it clear that I liked the concluding paragraph in particular.
I was just curious because the first set up the second, but your comment looked like you had a completely different take on the first which looked weird to me.
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On November 03 2016 03:29 Foreman wrote: 1) You are going after an easy target for not doing what they said they'd do (after they got some friction about it when they announced it, iirc?)
And since you never really addressed the following:
On November 03 2016 03:30 Foreman wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2016 03:21 Calix wrote: And as a side note, how is being tryhard a scum tell? Because you're looking for an excuse to accuse somebody of being scum where no scum motive is present.
Where is the scum motive in waffling over whether to post gifs or not?
Show me how doing that helps scum or admit your case was ridiculous and maybe can talk.
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On November 03 2016 03:01 NeverUnlucky wrote:
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On November 03 2016 05:44 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2016 05:38 Foreman wrote:On November 03 2016 03:29 Foreman wrote: 1) You are going after an easy target for not doing what they said they'd do (after they got some friction about it when they announced it, iirc?) And since you never really addressed the following: On November 03 2016 03:30 Foreman wrote:On November 03 2016 03:21 Calix wrote: And as a side note, how is being tryhard a scum tell? Because you're looking for an excuse to accuse somebody of being scum where no scum motive is present. Where is the scum motive in waffling over whether to post gifs or not? Show me how doing that helps scum or admit your case was ridiculous and maybe can talk. It wasn't a case though. I never said there was scum motivation. I have stated this on multiple occasions so people need to actually read my posts. I'm not repeating myself again.All I did was ask "yo why did you change your posting style from X pre-game posting style that you said you were doing?". I think this is a perfectly reasonable question since he...changed his posting style AFTER receiving his role so thus it had a chance of yielding AI information. He didn't waffle over it and I didn't say it was scummy. I said it was illogical which isn't the same thing as scum-motivated. It means that I don't get why he did it. (I still don't but the actual reasoning is completely irrelevant so I don't want ExO to answer now) You also have to take into account that I considered his behaviour anti-town. I don't see the problem with questioning a player in that category within the first few posts. It's the best time to clear up such matters, no? I hope that clears up everything.
Well it looked stinted as hell, like you were setting up for an easy target.
Where's this damning evidence against NU?
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On November 03 2016 05:49 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2016 05:48 Foreman wrote:On November 03 2016 05:44 Calix wrote:On November 03 2016 05:38 Foreman wrote:On November 03 2016 03:29 Foreman wrote: 1) You are going after an easy target for not doing what they said they'd do (after they got some friction about it when they announced it, iirc?) And since you never really addressed the following: On November 03 2016 03:30 Foreman wrote:On November 03 2016 03:21 Calix wrote: And as a side note, how is being tryhard a scum tell? Because you're looking for an excuse to accuse somebody of being scum where no scum motive is present. Where is the scum motive in waffling over whether to post gifs or not? Show me how doing that helps scum or admit your case was ridiculous and maybe can talk. It wasn't a case though. I never said there was scum motivation. I have stated this on multiple occasions so people need to actually read my posts. I'm not repeating myself again.All I did was ask "yo why did you change your posting style from X pre-game posting style that you said you were doing?". I think this is a perfectly reasonable question since he...changed his posting style AFTER receiving his role so thus it had a chance of yielding AI information. He didn't waffle over it and I didn't say it was scummy. I said it was illogical which isn't the same thing as scum-motivated. It means that I don't get why he did it. (I still don't but the actual reasoning is completely irrelevant so I don't want ExO to answer now) You also have to take into account that I considered his behaviour anti-town. I don't see the problem with questioning a player in that category within the first few posts. It's the best time to clear up such matters, no? I hope that clears up everything. Well it looked stinted as hell, like you were setting up for an easy target. Where's this damning evidence against NU? In his filter...which you could have looked at irregardless of your read on me. Alternatively, it's in my filter. You can skip over Page 1 of my filter because it's pre-game stuff.
I don't share your interpretation of his post.
"I said that" looks to me as if he's saying "no, I'm saying he's scummy"to what you simply referred to as illogical, as in he seems to equivocate logical fallacy with scumminess.
If I'm wrong, so be it... but I don't think I am.
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On November 03 2016 05:56 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2016 05:54 Foreman wrote:On November 03 2016 05:49 Calix wrote:On November 03 2016 05:48 Foreman wrote:On November 03 2016 05:44 Calix wrote:On November 03 2016 05:38 Foreman wrote:On November 03 2016 03:29 Foreman wrote: 1) You are going after an easy target for not doing what they said they'd do (after they got some friction about it when they announced it, iirc?) And since you never really addressed the following: On November 03 2016 03:30 Foreman wrote:On November 03 2016 03:21 Calix wrote: And as a side note, how is being tryhard a scum tell? Because you're looking for an excuse to accuse somebody of being scum where no scum motive is present. Where is the scum motive in waffling over whether to post gifs or not? Show me how doing that helps scum or admit your case was ridiculous and maybe can talk. It wasn't a case though. I never said there was scum motivation. I have stated this on multiple occasions so people need to actually read my posts. I'm not repeating myself again.All I did was ask "yo why did you change your posting style from X pre-game posting style that you said you were doing?". I think this is a perfectly reasonable question since he...changed his posting style AFTER receiving his role so thus it had a chance of yielding AI information. He didn't waffle over it and I didn't say it was scummy. I said it was illogical which isn't the same thing as scum-motivated. It means that I don't get why he did it. (I still don't but the actual reasoning is completely irrelevant so I don't want ExO to answer now) You also have to take into account that I considered his behaviour anti-town. I don't see the problem with questioning a player in that category within the first few posts. It's the best time to clear up such matters, no? I hope that clears up everything. Well it looked stinted as hell, like you were setting up for an easy target. Where's this damning evidence against NU? In his filter...which you could have looked at irregardless of your read on me. Alternatively, it's in my filter. You can skip over Page 1 of my filter because it's pre-game stuff. I don't share your interpretation of his post. "I said that" looks to me as if he's saying "no, I'm saying he's scummy"to what you simply referred to as illogical, as in he seems to equivocate logical fallacy with scumminess. If I'm wrong, so be it... but I don't think I am. Are you referring to ExO or NU? I am assuming the former here. Your post is confusing and I don't understand how you reached...whatever it is that you concluded.
I'm talking about NU.
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On November 03 2016 05:58 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2016 05:57 Foreman wrote:On November 03 2016 05:56 Calix wrote:On November 03 2016 05:54 Foreman wrote:On November 03 2016 05:49 Calix wrote:On November 03 2016 05:48 Foreman wrote:On November 03 2016 05:44 Calix wrote:On November 03 2016 05:38 Foreman wrote:On November 03 2016 03:29 Foreman wrote: 1) You are going after an easy target for not doing what they said they'd do (after they got some friction about it when they announced it, iirc?) And since you never really addressed the following: On November 03 2016 03:30 Foreman wrote:On November 03 2016 03:21 Calix wrote: And as a side note, how is being tryhard a scum tell? Because you're looking for an excuse to accuse somebody of being scum where no scum motive is present. Where is the scum motive in waffling over whether to post gifs or not? Show me how doing that helps scum or admit your case was ridiculous and maybe can talk. It wasn't a case though. I never said there was scum motivation. I have stated this on multiple occasions so people need to actually read my posts. I'm not repeating myself again.All I did was ask "yo why did you change your posting style from X pre-game posting style that you said you were doing?". I think this is a perfectly reasonable question since he...changed his posting style AFTER receiving his role so thus it had a chance of yielding AI information. He didn't waffle over it and I didn't say it was scummy. I said it was illogical which isn't the same thing as scum-motivated. It means that I don't get why he did it. (I still don't but the actual reasoning is completely irrelevant so I don't want ExO to answer now) You also have to take into account that I considered his behaviour anti-town. I don't see the problem with questioning a player in that category within the first few posts. It's the best time to clear up such matters, no? I hope that clears up everything. Well it looked stinted as hell, like you were setting up for an easy target. Where's this damning evidence against NU? In his filter...which you could have looked at irregardless of your read on me. Alternatively, it's in my filter. You can skip over Page 1 of my filter because it's pre-game stuff. I don't share your interpretation of his post. "I said that" looks to me as if he's saying "no, I'm saying he's scummy"to what you simply referred to as illogical, as in he seems to equivocate logical fallacy with scumminess. If I'm wrong, so be it... but I don't think I am. Are you referring to ExO or NU? I am assuming the former here. Your post is confusing and I don't understand how you reached...whatever it is that you concluded. I'm talking about NU. Then I'm even more confused. Clarification would be welcomed.
You can't remember where NU said "I said that" and you got all twisted?
Oy vey, hold on...
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On November 03 2016 03:25 NeverUnlucky wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2016 03:23 Calix wrote:On November 03 2016 03:21 NeverUnlucky wrote: Haiii guises, let us keep this atmosphere positive!
I agree with Mr. Foreman and Mr. ExO that Calix's push is not her greatest, and I also agree with Calix that ExO's defensive response looks scummy!
Foreman, may I ask you where you are coming from in terms of community? c: I'm not pushing ExO. That's being extremely generous. I never claimed that ExO was scummy, just illogical. I didn't even call him defensive. Where did you get that from? I said that.
There
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On November 03 2016 06:05 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2016 06:01 Foreman wrote:On November 03 2016 03:25 NeverUnlucky wrote:On November 03 2016 03:23 Calix wrote:On November 03 2016 03:21 NeverUnlucky wrote: Haiii guises, let us keep this atmosphere positive!
I agree with Mr. Foreman and Mr. ExO that Calix's push is not her greatest, and I also agree with Calix that ExO's defensive response looks scummy!
Foreman, may I ask you where you are coming from in terms of community? c: I'm not pushing ExO. That's being extremely generous. I never claimed that ExO was scummy, just illogical. I didn't even call him defensive. Where did you get that from? I said that. There My 'illogical' comment was referring to ExO though, not NU. But NU said "I agree with Calix that ExO's defensiveness is scummy" and when I said "I didn't say that, where did you get that idea from?" he then changes and says "well I said that" Which makes no sense. How do you even get that mixed up?
As I already said, NU appears to me to equivocate logical fallacy with scumminess.
Reread his post with the mindset of using one as a synonym for the other and his mindset is more clear, even if I do disagree with the principle.
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I'd like to see some reads with original content from mahrgell.
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On November 03 2016 06:18 NeverUnlucky wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2016 04:17 Foreman wrote:On November 03 2016 04:14 Calix wrote:On November 03 2016 04:10 Foreman wrote:On November 03 2016 04:01 mahrgell wrote: @Foreman Now that you noticed your misread. Are you still going after Calix, or have you shifted your focus on NU? Would the argument you made for Calix also apply to NU? Or where do you see the difference there? The fact he isn't voting ExO does not make his push any less disingenuous. Knock knock, Calix is here, asking you to read my NU case like a good dear. Is my NU case also disingenuous? If so, how? Considering you've yet to acquit yourself for that shady ExO push, I'm not concerned about your NU push when he isn't even here to respond to it. That is anti-town, dude. As bad and as incorrect as her post on me is, you cannot have this attitude towards her, especially 2 hours into the game. I'm reading this as buddying.
That's a terrible example of buddying.
You'll find one much more blatant if you keep reading.
So what?
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As a side note, it's adorable how people call me anti-town like that should somehow effect the way I play.
Anti-town is how I roll. Not by design, just is what it is.
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On November 03 2016 06:29 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2016 06:28 Foreman wrote: As a side note, it's adorable how people call me anti-town like that should somehow effect the way I play.
Anti-town is how I roll. Not by design, just is what it is. How much experience do you have with mafia?
Not overly much, just a few years.
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On November 03 2016 06:30 NeverUnlucky wrote:
I dislike in this order Skynx, ExO, Foreman, Calix, you.
And I appreciated darthfoley's one post.
That's about how my read look like.
How do you dislike mag**** less than Calix when mag**** has been an echo chamber of Calix?
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On November 03 2016 06:31 NeverUnlucky wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2016 06:08 Foreman wrote:On November 03 2016 06:05 Calix wrote:On November 03 2016 06:01 Foreman wrote:On November 03 2016 03:25 NeverUnlucky wrote:On November 03 2016 03:23 Calix wrote:On November 03 2016 03:21 NeverUnlucky wrote: Haiii guises, let us keep this atmosphere positive!
I agree with Mr. Foreman and Mr. ExO that Calix's push is not her greatest, and I also agree with Calix that ExO's defensive response looks scummy!
Foreman, may I ask you where you are coming from in terms of community? c: I'm not pushing ExO. That's being extremely generous. I never claimed that ExO was scummy, just illogical. I didn't even call him defensive. Where did you get that from? I said that. There My 'illogical' comment was referring to ExO though, not NU. But NU said "I agree with Calix that ExO's defensiveness is scummy" and when I said "I didn't say that, where did you get that idea from?" he then changes and says "well I said that" Which makes no sense. How do you even get that mixed up? As I already said, NU appears to me to equivocate logical fallacy with scumminess. Reread his post with the mindset of using one as a synonym for the other and his mindset is more clear, even if I do disagree with the principle. Mhh? That's 100% Calix you're describing here. I rarely if ever read people based on logic. What made you think that?
If you're saying you don't equivocate illogical with scummy, them I'm wrong in my interpretation and that actually strengthens Calix's case imho.
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On November 03 2016 06:37 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2016 04:57 Foreman wrote: If Calix is town, there's a fair chance that marghell is scum. What prompted this?
Filter me.
That's why I want reads and original content from them.
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On November 03 2016 06:37 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2016 04:57 Foreman wrote: If Calix is town, there's a fair chance that marghell is scum. What prompted this?
Or read 268.
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On November 03 2016 06:42 NeverUnlucky wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2016 06:33 Foreman wrote:On November 03 2016 06:30 NeverUnlucky wrote:
I dislike in this order Skynx, ExO, Foreman, Calix, you.
And I appreciated darthfoley's one post.
That's about how my read look like. How do you dislike mag**** less than Calix when mag**** has been an echo chamber of Calix? Mahrgell is willing to take step back from his pushes while Calix is seemingly trying to get me stuck in the past and not backing off, instead worsening her already god awful push.
Right... and which one sounds scummier to you?
The one rushing headlong into a 1v1, or the one that supports the 1v1 but lays low to avoid fallout?
##Vote maghrell (or whatever)
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On November 03 2016 06:49 mahrgell wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2016 06:17 Foreman wrote: I'd like to see some reads with original content from mahrgell. How many you need? You obviously ignored all my posts about yourself. But let's summarize and update: Looking at your entire post history, I try to figure out how you managed to come to the conclusion you have. If you have no information about the game, you should have seen the same as me. And yet somehow you managed to take another turn at pretty much every point in the game. So far all your actions have been about the opposite of what I would expect from someone who saw the same as I did, with the same information I have. (none). 1) you see the Calix vs Exo_ interaction and for weird reasons tunnel down on Calix. Was she(it seems like Calix is a she?) pushing Exo? I don't think so. If she was, I agree it was pointless, but well... Day1. You were sure she was pushing Exo. Okay... Happy tunneling. 2) so you chase after people for having the antitown-proscum conversation, just to push that conversation further. If it was in your interest to remove this discussion from the thread to steer the game in a more town friendly direction, you should probably not try to last word in that conversation. 3) Next Calix asks you about NU. Instead of answering, you refuse to answer at all, because you consider Calix scum. I believe enough people pointed out at this point that this is pretty anti-town. Considering you being worried about the town atmosphere before, this is rather ironic. 4) I ask you about NU too. You dismiss it as parroting. Besides the fact that I consider it not parroting, but admit, that my critique on NU was very similar to Calix (earlier, not her latest) posts, let's for a moment assume it was parroting. At this point you claimed to scumlean Calix, but didn't say anything about me. If I were a townie, and see someone else parrot a person I consider scum... I for sure as hell would do my best to get this person to stop sheeping a scummie. Either you turn on me right away, or you try to get me away from her. Instead you just dismissed me. If I was sheeping Calix and you considered her scum, you willingly gave her an additional vote. 5) Your general contribution to this thread has never been in the interest of improving the atmosphere. In none of the mentioned points have you ever tried for a constructive conversation. And your latest responses to NU weren't better either. Not sure if it was in this thread or in the other one, but when you asked about the TL meta someone (NU?) answered: "Be wrong and a dick about it" This is exactly what I see you doing here. I guess you earned it ##Vote Foreman
Nice OMGUS brah.
1) So what? 2) I contributed to the discussion, I did not chase after anyone for participating in it. That's a mighty fine misrep. 3) So? 4) You're assuming I was hard-scumreading Calix. That's foolish. I was ignoring her push because she was ignoring mine. I was ignoring yours because you're an echo chamber. 5) Lol, that's actually reason not to vote me, clown.
Feeling better about my vote.
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On November 03 2016 06:51 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2016 06:38 Foreman wrote:On November 03 2016 06:37 Tictock wrote:On November 03 2016 04:57 Foreman wrote: If Calix is town, there's a fair chance that marghell is scum. What prompted this? Filter me. That's why I want reads and original content from them. Yea I did that before posting, I'm a bit confused why you went from being uber-tunneled on Calix to suddenly considering her as town. I'll be honest, I was thinking you were lock scum up till this post but it gave me pause because I consider thinking about people from both alignments is a good town trait. However your posts seem more like you are just shifting focus away from Calix to another target but your read really hasn't changed. Right now I'd stick with my initial read that you are scum and attribute this shift to being told in your QT that you are tunneling too much.
I started kicking around the idea of Calix town in the post you asked me about, actually. That's why I started talking to her.
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On November 03 2016 06:58 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2016 06:55 Foreman wrote:On November 03 2016 06:49 mahrgell wrote:On November 03 2016 06:17 Foreman wrote: I'd like to see some reads with original content from mahrgell. How many you need? You obviously ignored all my posts about yourself. But let's summarize and update: Looking at your entire post history, I try to figure out how you managed to come to the conclusion you have. If you have no information about the game, you should have seen the same as me. And yet somehow you managed to take another turn at pretty much every point in the game. So far all your actions have been about the opposite of what I would expect from someone who saw the same as I did, with the same information I have. (none). 1) you see the Calix vs Exo_ interaction and for weird reasons tunnel down on Calix. Was she(it seems like Calix is a she?) pushing Exo? I don't think so. If she was, I agree it was pointless, but well... Day1. You were sure she was pushing Exo. Okay... Happy tunneling. 2) so you chase after people for having the antitown-proscum conversation, just to push that conversation further. If it was in your interest to remove this discussion from the thread to steer the game in a more town friendly direction, you should probably not try to last word in that conversation. 3) Next Calix asks you about NU. Instead of answering, you refuse to answer at all, because you consider Calix scum. I believe enough people pointed out at this point that this is pretty anti-town. Considering you being worried about the town atmosphere before, this is rather ironic. 4) I ask you about NU too. You dismiss it as parroting. Besides the fact that I consider it not parroting, but admit, that my critique on NU was very similar to Calix (earlier, not her latest) posts, let's for a moment assume it was parroting. At this point you claimed to scumlean Calix, but didn't say anything about me. If I were a townie, and see someone else parrot a person I consider scum... I for sure as hell would do my best to get this person to stop sheeping a scummie. Either you turn on me right away, or you try to get me away from her. Instead you just dismissed me. If I was sheeping Calix and you considered her scum, you willingly gave her an additional vote. 5) Your general contribution to this thread has never been in the interest of improving the atmosphere. In none of the mentioned points have you ever tried for a constructive conversation. And your latest responses to NU weren't better either. Not sure if it was in this thread or in the other one, but when you asked about the TL meta someone (NU?) answered: "Be wrong and a dick about it" This is exactly what I see you doing here. I guess you earned it ##Vote Foreman Nice OMGUS brah. 1) So what? 2) I contributed to the discussion, I did not chase after anyone for participating in it. That's a mighty fine misrep. 3) So? 4) You're assuming I was hard-scumreading Calix. That's foolish. I was ignoring her push because she was ignoring mine. I was ignoring yours because you're an echo chamber. 5) Lol, that's actually reason not to vote me, clown. Feeling better about my vote. With regards to #3, how do you explain this post? Show nested quote +On November 03 2016 04:23 Foreman wrote:On November 03 2016 04:20 Calix wrote:On November 03 2016 04:17 Foreman wrote:On November 03 2016 04:14 Calix wrote:On November 03 2016 04:10 Foreman wrote:On November 03 2016 04:01 mahrgell wrote: @Foreman Now that you noticed your misread. Are you still going after Calix, or have you shifted your focus on NU? Would the argument you made for Calix also apply to NU? Or where do you see the difference there? The fact he isn't voting ExO does not make his push any less disingenuous. Knock knock, Calix is here, asking you to read my NU case like a good dear. Is my NU case also disingenuous? If so, how? Considering you've yet to acquit yourself for that shady ExO push, I'm not concerned about your NU push when he isn't even here to respond to it. Why do I need to 'acquit myself' for you to take my NU case seriously? You either agree with it or you don't. My 'credibility' has nothing to do with wherever you think I make valid points on NU. Poor reaction from you. Lol whatever dude.
I'm not wasting my time humoring scum, and right now that's what you are to me.If you want me to take you seriously, I suggest you take me seriously.
If I'm hard reading you as scum, I won't be reaching out to you to convince me otherwise.
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On November 03 2016 07:05 Tictock wrote: Calix and Marghal (or w/e) are my top town atm. Mostly everything they have done has been to push the game forward and have been looking at multiple people from multiple angles.
Who's your dealer because I want some of what you're smoking.
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Yo Marg, show us some reads on somebody besides the person you're echoing for and the guy that's calling you out please.
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On November 03 2016 07:10 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2016 06:53 Calix wrote:On November 03 2016 06:51 Tictock wrote:On November 03 2016 06:38 Foreman wrote:On November 03 2016 06:37 Tictock wrote:On November 03 2016 04:57 Foreman wrote: If Calix is town, there's a fair chance that marghell is scum. What prompted this? Filter me. That's why I want reads and original content from them. Yea I did that before posting, I'm a bit confused why you went from being uber-tunneled on Calix to suddenly considering her as town. I'll be honest, I was thinking you were lock scum up till this post but it gave me pause because I consider thinking about people from both alignments is a good town trait. However your posts seem more like you are just shifting focus away from Calix to another target but your read really hasn't changed. Right now I'd stick with my initial read that you are scum and attribute this shift to being told in your QT that you are tunneling too much. What made you think Foreman was 'lock scum' in the first place? He jumped on you for being try-hard and didn't have an opinion on anyone else. Took him a full page of filter before he even talked about anyone else, and even then it was only a segway based on his read on you.
Segue.
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On November 03 2016 21:42 mahrgell wrote: . Scum has usually 2 options: a) make up stuff b) reinforce shitty assumptions by townies Meanwhile a townie sees what I see. So if I feel myself completely unable to follow the line of thought of a player, this is a scumlean for me. In the end, I have to judge if the different judgements made by other players are due to different character or due to hidden agenda.
This is terribad. So any townie that you disagree with is scummy to you?
Because like, two town can't see the same thing and have completely different thoughts about the same situation, what with the fact that everybody has identical environmental factors and upbringing, amirite?
Oh wait...
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On November 03 2016 21:43 NeverUnlucky wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote Calix
Town doesn't ignore other members of the town.
That is so false, lol.
Not liking somebody's playstyle doesn't make them scum.
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##Vote: Skynx
I've yet to see one productive post from this guy, and it's hard to remember that he's even in the game.
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On November 04 2016 00:14 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2016 00:04 Foreman wrote: ##Vote: Skynx
I've yet to see one productive post from this guy, and it's hard to remember that he's even in the game. I'm here, still reading all the shitty posts unfortunately and that takes time. Also, congratz for exposing yourself for going after a low-hanging fruit.
Seriously?
Who calls themselves low hanging fruit?
That's such a crap defense.
I'd have expected reasons for his lack of activity and dismissive posts, but he's coming across as "expect this all the time".
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On November 04 2016 02:28 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2016 01:53 NeverUnlucky wrote: Perhaps you have reads you would like to share? c: Sure I think Foreman is most town to me.
Please explain. I'm rarely "most town" on sites I play regularly, so this feels off with no explanation.
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On November 04 2016 02:48 darthfoley wrote: I'd also appreciate Foreman's reads when he gets a chance
Sure, as soon as you explain your read of me, which was given before you know my reads of everyone else.
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On November 04 2016 03:05 darthfoley wrote: Best scum team 2k16 NU Calix
Nah... One perhaps but not both.
I'm leaning TvT, personally. I'd expect scum to be more laid back and just pushing back enough to get out of the public eye.
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On November 04 2016 04:01 darthfoley wrote: Why'd you change your vote off of mahrgell to Skynx?
Mahrgell is still sus, I just realized that Skynx had been posting a bunch of nothingness and wanted him to step up his game.
Then that icky post where he calls himself low hanging fruit made my vote stickier.
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On November 04 2016 04:13 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2016 01:18 Foreman wrote:On November 04 2016 00:14 Skynx wrote:On November 04 2016 00:04 Foreman wrote: ##Vote: Skynx
I've yet to see one productive post from this guy, and it's hard to remember that he's even in the game. I'm here, still reading all the shitty posts unfortunately and that takes time. Also, congratz for exposing yourself for going after a low-hanging fruit. Seriously? Who calls themselves low hanging fruit? That's such a crap defense. I'd have expected reasons for his lack of activity and dismissive posts, but he's coming across as "expect this all the time". Stand by the facts. I was just an emo at this point to most people including you. Just before i posted some actual reads. I was the definition of low hanging fruit. Thats not a defence, thats an accusation for you going for someone whos just raging about the game rather than post your thoughts on actual playing people some of which you were definitely scumreading at this point.
Bullshit.
You were active lurking. You got called out on active lurking. You decided you better do something to avoid scrutiny.
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On November 04 2016 05:41 Calix wrote: Foreman, can you give your thoughts on Skynx' wall-posts?
As for ExO, I missed #600. I'm not sure I agree. He says "I think ExO is scum but if he isn't then he's only a VT and is useless so he can die"
He thinks you're scum, ergo you're lying about being VT. All he does is rule out the possibility of you being TPR. I don't see inconsistency here.
His wall posts don't line up with the mindset of somebody that considers themselves low hanging fruit.
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On November 04 2016 05:44 ExO_ wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2016 05:41 Calix wrote: Foreman, can you give your thoughts on Skynx' wall-posts?
As for ExO, I missed #600. I'm not sure I agree. He says "I think ExO is scum but if he isn't then he's only a VT and is useless so he can die"
He thinks you're scum, ergo you're lying about being VT. All he does is rule out the possibility of you being TPR. I don't see inconsistency here. Or I'm lying about being VT to get scum to not mess with me on day 1. However look at the way he posts. He knows I'm only VT. You need to learn to read between the lines. Mafia are never going to come into the thread and announce they are mafia
How would he, as scum, know you are VT?
A blue would have a better idea whether you were bullshitting than scum, would they not?
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On November 04 2016 06:03 ExO_ wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2016 06:02 Foreman wrote:On November 04 2016 05:41 Calix wrote: Foreman, can you give your thoughts on Skynx' wall-posts?
As for ExO, I missed #600. I'm not sure I agree. He says "I think ExO is scum but if he isn't then he's only a VT and is useless so he can die"
He thinks you're scum, ergo you're lying about being VT. All he does is rule out the possibility of you being TPR. I don't see inconsistency here. His wall posts don't line up with the mindset of somebody that considers themselves low hanging fruit. What is this supposed to accomplish? He's not allowed to start posting things b/c he at one point in the game considered himself low hanging fruit?
No. I'm saying he was obviously lying when he called himself low-hanging fruit, and that he made that remark instead of simply explaining why he was busy or what have you makes him scum.
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On November 04 2016 06:09 ExO_ wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2016 06:07 Foreman wrote:On November 04 2016 06:03 ExO_ wrote:On November 04 2016 06:02 Foreman wrote:On November 04 2016 05:41 Calix wrote: Foreman, can you give your thoughts on Skynx' wall-posts?
As for ExO, I missed #600. I'm not sure I agree. He says "I think ExO is scum but if he isn't then he's only a VT and is useless so he can die"
He thinks you're scum, ergo you're lying about being VT. All he does is rule out the possibility of you being TPR. I don't see inconsistency here. His wall posts don't line up with the mindset of somebody that considers themselves low hanging fruit. What is this supposed to accomplish? He's not allowed to start posting things b/c he at one point in the game considered himself low hanging fruit? No. I'm saying he was obviously lying when he called himself low-hanging fruit, and that he made that remark instead of simply explaining why he was busy or what have you makes him scum. He cannot be lying about calling himself low-hanging fruit. Thats an opinion thing and not alignment indicative in any way. Getting stuck up on this is dumb as hell. Also read the thread. You're skipping posts like crazy
Yeah, and his opinion is not matching up with his posting so I absolutely will call him a liar.
And no shit I'm skipping posts. I check in when I can on my phone and there are four+ pages of crap to wade through. Deal.
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On November 04 2016 06:12 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2016 06:09 Tictock wrote:On November 04 2016 06:01 Calix wrote: But how hard is it to just say something like "oh I was joking" or "I wanted to play the game properly" or something? Maybe I'm just assuming that ExO is as amazingly intelligent as I am, but that doesn't seem like a stretch for scum.
His later behaviour is more concerning to me. I don't really like it and the point which I found the most interesting from him is something that you claim was a joke. (I think) Thats actually kinda my point, town!Exo could have said the same things, or started posting gifs to joke around. What did we see? Him getting butthurt that you called him out for not posting Gifs and attacking you for it. I feel like this is going around in circles. It's clear that you think that's a scummy reaction from ExO and I disagree. I think we should move on since this thread is blowing up. Thoughts on Foreman? I'm still thinking this could be TvT and thus I find him sitting in the background to be conspicuous.
I go a few hours without posting because I have shit to do and I'm sitting in the background?
Lulz.
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On November 04 2016 06:22 ExO_ wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2016 06:21 Foreman wrote:On November 04 2016 06:09 ExO_ wrote:On November 04 2016 06:07 Foreman wrote:On November 04 2016 06:03 ExO_ wrote:On November 04 2016 06:02 Foreman wrote:On November 04 2016 05:41 Calix wrote: Foreman, can you give your thoughts on Skynx' wall-posts?
As for ExO, I missed #600. I'm not sure I agree. He says "I think ExO is scum but if he isn't then he's only a VT and is useless so he can die"
He thinks you're scum, ergo you're lying about being VT. All he does is rule out the possibility of you being TPR. I don't see inconsistency here. His wall posts don't line up with the mindset of somebody that considers themselves low hanging fruit. What is this supposed to accomplish? He's not allowed to start posting things b/c he at one point in the game considered himself low hanging fruit? No. I'm saying he was obviously lying when he called himself low-hanging fruit, and that he made that remark instead of simply explaining why he was busy or what have you makes him scum. He cannot be lying about calling himself low-hanging fruit. Thats an opinion thing and not alignment indicative in any way. Getting stuck up on this is dumb as hell. Also read the thread. You're skipping posts like crazy Yeah, and his opinion is not matching up with his posting so I absolutely will call him a liar. And no shit I'm skipping posts. I check in when I can on my phone and there are four+ pages of crap to wade through. Deal. because I explained the part you were confused about to calix, and you come in and ask the same fucking question. If you can't be arsed to read my posts how the fuck can you reasonably question them
Where the hell did I do that?
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On November 04 2016 06:29 ExO_ wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2016 06:24 Foreman wrote:On November 04 2016 06:22 ExO_ wrote:On November 04 2016 06:21 Foreman wrote:On November 04 2016 06:09 ExO_ wrote:On November 04 2016 06:07 Foreman wrote:On November 04 2016 06:03 ExO_ wrote:On November 04 2016 06:02 Foreman wrote:On November 04 2016 05:41 Calix wrote: Foreman, can you give your thoughts on Skynx' wall-posts?
As for ExO, I missed #600. I'm not sure I agree. He says "I think ExO is scum but if he isn't then he's only a VT and is useless so he can die"
He thinks you're scum, ergo you're lying about being VT. All he does is rule out the possibility of you being TPR. I don't see inconsistency here. His wall posts don't line up with the mindset of somebody that considers themselves low hanging fruit. What is this supposed to accomplish? He's not allowed to start posting things b/c he at one point in the game considered himself low hanging fruit? No. I'm saying he was obviously lying when he called himself low-hanging fruit, and that he made that remark instead of simply explaining why he was busy or what have you makes him scum. He cannot be lying about calling himself low-hanging fruit. Thats an opinion thing and not alignment indicative in any way. Getting stuck up on this is dumb as hell. Also read the thread. You're skipping posts like crazy Yeah, and his opinion is not matching up with his posting so I absolutely will call him a liar. And no shit I'm skipping posts. I check in when I can on my phone and there are four+ pages of crap to wade through. Deal. because I explained the part you were confused about to calix, and you come in and ask the same fucking question. If you can't be arsed to read my posts how the fuck can you reasonably question them Where the hell did I do that? + Show Spoiler +On November 04 2016 06:05 Foreman wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2016 05:44 ExO_ wrote:On November 04 2016 05:41 Calix wrote: Foreman, can you give your thoughts on Skynx' wall-posts?
As for ExO, I missed #600. I'm not sure I agree. He says "I think ExO is scum but if he isn't then he's only a VT and is useless so he can die"
He thinks you're scum, ergo you're lying about being VT. All he does is rule out the possibility of you being TPR. I don't see inconsistency here. Or I'm lying about being VT to get scum to not mess with me on day 1. However look at the way he posts. He knows I'm only VT. You need to learn to read between the lines. Mafia are never going to come into the thread and announce they are mafia How would he, as scum, know you are VT? A blue would have a better idea whether you were bullshitting than scum, would they not? + Show Spoiler +On November 04 2016 05:49 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2016 05:44 ExO_ wrote:On November 04 2016 05:41 Calix wrote: Foreman, can you give your thoughts on Skynx' wall-posts?
As for ExO, I missed #600. I'm not sure I agree. He says "I think ExO is scum but if he isn't then he's only a VT and is useless so he can die"
He thinks you're scum, ergo you're lying about being VT. All he does is rule out the possibility of you being TPR. I don't see inconsistency here. Or I'm lying about being VT to get scum to not mess with me on day 1. However look at the way he posts. He knows I'm only VT. You need to learn to read between the lines. Mafia are never going to come into the thread and announce they are mafia How would scum!TT know that you, the town!ExO, is telling the truth and that you're not a TPR exactly? I don't follow the "he knows I'm only VT" part. + Show Spoiler +On November 04 2016 05:53 ExO_ wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2016 05:49 Calix wrote:On November 04 2016 05:44 ExO_ wrote:On November 04 2016 05:41 Calix wrote: Foreman, can you give your thoughts on Skynx' wall-posts?
As for ExO, I missed #600. I'm not sure I agree. He says "I think ExO is scum but if he isn't then he's only a VT and is useless so he can die"
He thinks you're scum, ergo you're lying about being VT. All he does is rule out the possibility of you being TPR. I don't see inconsistency here. Or I'm lying about being VT to get scum to not mess with me on day 1. However look at the way he posts. He knows I'm only VT. You need to learn to read between the lines. Mafia are never going to come into the thread and announce they are mafia How would scum!TT know that you, the town!ExO, is telling the truth and that you're not a TPR exactly? I don't follow the "he knows I'm only VT" part. He wouldn't. However, he would had no problem killing me if he's scum (especially if he's scum and suspect I'm a power role). Does this make sense to you or do I need to break it down entirely? On November 04 2016 05:58 ExO_ wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2016 05:55 Calix wrote:On November 04 2016 05:53 ExO_ wrote:On November 04 2016 05:49 Calix wrote:On November 04 2016 05:44 ExO_ wrote:On November 04 2016 05:41 Calix wrote: Foreman, can you give your thoughts on Skynx' wall-posts?
As for ExO, I missed #600. I'm not sure I agree. He says "I think ExO is scum but if he isn't then he's only a VT and is useless so he can die"
He thinks you're scum, ergo you're lying about being VT. All he does is rule out the possibility of you being TPR. I don't see inconsistency here. Or I'm lying about being VT to get scum to not mess with me on day 1. However look at the way he posts. He knows I'm only VT. You need to learn to read between the lines. Mafia are never going to come into the thread and announce they are mafia How would scum!TT know that you, the town!ExO, is telling the truth and that you're not a TPR exactly? I don't follow the "he knows I'm only VT" part. He wouldn't. However, he would had no problem killing me if he's scum (especially if he's scum and suspect I'm a power role). Does this make sense to you or do I need to break it down entirely? ELI5 I'm running into a problem that is rare for me - I have way too many town-reads. Needless to say, I'm having a hard time here. Scum TT knows who his scum buddy is, and who is town. He sees I claim VT. He knows that by killing me he'll either kill a VT (in which case he can claim "he was being worthless for town and it was good to get him out now, blah blah blah), or he'll kill a town power role and again blame it on my play. He claims that I'm either scum or VT. This is a call that nobody who is town will make. Because if a town player believes my VT claim then I cannot be scum. However if a town player doubts my VT claim then I might be power role and they might not wanna lynch me. The only people who would want to lynch me right now for the logic TT is presenting, are scum.
You still haven't explained why that makes him scum.
Just saying.
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On November 04 2016 06:31 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2016 06:23 Foreman wrote:On November 04 2016 06:12 Calix wrote:On November 04 2016 06:09 Tictock wrote:On November 04 2016 06:01 Calix wrote: But how hard is it to just say something like "oh I was joking" or "I wanted to play the game properly" or something? Maybe I'm just assuming that ExO is as amazingly intelligent as I am, but that doesn't seem like a stretch for scum.
His later behaviour is more concerning to me. I don't really like it and the point which I found the most interesting from him is something that you claim was a joke. (I think) Thats actually kinda my point, town!Exo could have said the same things, or started posting gifs to joke around. What did we see? Him getting butthurt that you called him out for not posting Gifs and attacking you for it. I feel like this is going around in circles. It's clear that you think that's a scummy reaction from ExO and I disagree. I think we should move on since this thread is blowing up. Thoughts on Foreman? I'm still thinking this could be TvT and thus I find him sitting in the background to be conspicuous. I go a few hours without posting because I have shit to do and I'm sitting in the background? Lulz. Well in my opinion, you weren't posting a lot. Fine by itself. But you were just talking about stuff which wasn't related to the main discussion at hand until recently. That stood out to me especially because I think it's two townies fighting. Thus someone ignoring it looks weird and like they don't want to take a side in it since either of them being lynched helps scum. So yes, my logic is pretty good, I'd say.
I'd say you're logic is pretty trash because there are dynamics between those two that I'm not familiar with so me jumping in the middle would only muddy the waters.
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On November 04 2016 06:32 NeverUnlucky wrote: v TT (=) / Rels (+) Calix (=) / Skynx (+) DF (-) / Foreman (=) / ExO (-=) mahrgell (=) w
What is that?
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On November 04 2016 06:37 ExO_ wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2016 06:36 NeverUnlucky wrote:On November 04 2016 06:34 ExO_ wrote:On November 04 2016 06:32 NeverUnlucky wrote:On November 04 2016 06:30 ExO_ wrote:On November 04 2016 06:27 NeverUnlucky wrote:On November 04 2016 06:11 ExO_ wrote:On November 04 2016 06:09 Tictock wrote:On November 04 2016 06:01 Calix wrote: But how hard is it to just say something like "oh I was joking" or "I wanted to play the game properly" or something? Maybe I'm just assuming that ExO is as amazingly intelligent as I am, but that doesn't seem like a stretch for scum.
His later behaviour is more concerning to me. I don't really like it and the point which I found the most interesting from him is something that you claim was a joke. (I think) Thats actually kinda my point, town!Exo could have said the same things, or started posting gifs to joke around. What did we see? Him getting butthurt that you called him out for not posting Gifs and attacking you for it. Starting a discussion is EXACTLY what town wants to do. And its exactly what I did. Implying that I wouldn't do that is town is at best misleading. What I did drew a lot of attention to me, you really think thats what I would do as scum? Instead of posting a few gifs and joking around a bit? please. Lynch TT its so obvious at this point On October 31 2016 09:24 NeverUnlucky wrote: Sure. c: One more /in.
This is what is going to happen this game:
1. I will roll town. 2. Game starts; unoriginal players'll say "First confirmed town!" 3. One town will have a weird or even scummy entry. 4. Calix will tunnel said player. NeverUnlucky will have a good read on Calix based on the tunnel. 5. Said town will claim that the intent behind his entry was to stir up conversation. 6. Everyone will mock him and some will town-read him. 7. Active players’ll shitpost, lurkers’ll lurk. 8. One player will case another player who’ll become the main wagon, but the case is weak, thus : 9. People will initiate a CFD at EoD, and a town will die.
1 to 7, check. 8 and 9 to go. Calix hasn't tunneled anyone. You're full of shit Who's not reading the game now? Are you serious? lol. Show me where Calix is tunneling, and not actively considering all reads and possibilities. Give me a break Pointless argument, dismissed. If you're going to acuse Calix of tunneling, you better be able to back it up. Calix you Town reading NU? because if you're scum reading him I think he might be a decent lynch today
This post is hilarious.
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On November 04 2016 07:12 mahrgell wrote: Foreman: I see where you are coming from, again. Honestly, if you are right, I would consider it rather sad, but I guess the "be a dick" meta is really the current thing. But here I still lack any attempt by Foremen to progress the game. Okay, let him be blunt, let him be the noBS type. But what did he contribute? At this point I actually question myself, as I seem to be the only one not liking Foremen. But I simply can't get it. All reasons for him to be town sound like yours "He doesnt give a fuck about others". Yeah, but maybe it would be a useful trait to actually give a fuck about others.
Hard to give a fuck about people I don't know. It's a personality thing. Even moreso when it comes to online interactions.
Does the fact I'm distant and cold make me scum? If so, prepare to mislynch me consistently for at least a few months.
I could go into detail about why I can come across a bit harsh, but I think that would best be discussed after the game.
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On November 04 2016 07:45 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2016 07:38 Foreman wrote:On November 04 2016 06:31 Calix wrote:On November 04 2016 06:23 Foreman wrote:On November 04 2016 06:12 Calix wrote:On November 04 2016 06:09 Tictock wrote:On November 04 2016 06:01 Calix wrote: But how hard is it to just say something like "oh I was joking" or "I wanted to play the game properly" or something? Maybe I'm just assuming that ExO is as amazingly intelligent as I am, but that doesn't seem like a stretch for scum.
His later behaviour is more concerning to me. I don't really like it and the point which I found the most interesting from him is something that you claim was a joke. (I think) Thats actually kinda my point, town!Exo could have said the same things, or started posting gifs to joke around. What did we see? Him getting butthurt that you called him out for not posting Gifs and attacking you for it. I feel like this is going around in circles. It's clear that you think that's a scummy reaction from ExO and I disagree. I think we should move on since this thread is blowing up. Thoughts on Foreman? I'm still thinking this could be TvT and thus I find him sitting in the background to be conspicuous. I go a few hours without posting because I have shit to do and I'm sitting in the background? Lulz. Well in my opinion, you weren't posting a lot. Fine by itself. But you were just talking about stuff which wasn't related to the main discussion at hand until recently. That stood out to me especially because I think it's two townies fighting. Thus someone ignoring it looks weird and like they don't want to take a side in it since either of them being lynched helps scum. So yes, my logic is pretty good, I'd say. I'd say you're logic is pretty trash because there are dynamics between those two that I'm not familiar with so me jumping in the middle would only muddy the waters. "not familiar with" If they were discussing a meta reference then I would believe this. However they weren't. Everything that was discussed with ExO/ TT was sourced from the game thread. Why would the dynamics be unfamiliar to you? Regardless of your response, what DID you make of ExO/ TT?
You do realize that meta isn't the only thing that carries over between games, yes?
Personality conflicts and how they resolve (or not) can also be alignment indicative if people are familiar with those clashing.
If I were to get in the middle of TT/ExO, it could have interfered with the ability to read them. I prefer to wait until things resolve and then chime in to avoid that.
That said, I am likiing ExO for town. I don't understand why TT has votes, it's something I'll need to read up on later tonight. 17% battery is telling me nou.
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On November 04 2016 07:47 ExO_ wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2016 07:45 Rels wrote:On November 04 2016 07:42 ExO_ wrote:On November 04 2016 07:36 Rels wrote: ExO, the only thing that keeps me from tunneling you into oblivion is your explanation of the VT thing. Please answer me about why your foreman read changed without reason between now and yesterday because if I was scum and foreman, I wouldn't be half-assing it like he is. I check to make sure what I'm posting lines up with everything else posted so far. If he's scum and not reading something he's directly posting about then it's poor scum play imo. The tone of his posts comes across as lazy half-assing towny rather than scummy to me No I mean, why were you considering him so important in that post 16 hours so it made you say "I'll look at it tomorrow, but NeverUnlucky/foreman are both going to be the first people I look at." ? He and NU both jumped on my Calix shit at the start of the game
False, I had my own reason.
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On November 04 2016 08:05 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2016 08:01 Foreman wrote:On November 04 2016 07:45 Calix wrote:On November 04 2016 07:38 Foreman wrote:On November 04 2016 06:31 Calix wrote:On November 04 2016 06:23 Foreman wrote:On November 04 2016 06:12 Calix wrote:On November 04 2016 06:09 Tictock wrote:On November 04 2016 06:01 Calix wrote: But how hard is it to just say something like "oh I was joking" or "I wanted to play the game properly" or something? Maybe I'm just assuming that ExO is as amazingly intelligent as I am, but that doesn't seem like a stretch for scum.
His later behaviour is more concerning to me. I don't really like it and the point which I found the most interesting from him is something that you claim was a joke. (I think) Thats actually kinda my point, town!Exo could have said the same things, or started posting gifs to joke around. What did we see? Him getting butthurt that you called him out for not posting Gifs and attacking you for it. I feel like this is going around in circles. It's clear that you think that's a scummy reaction from ExO and I disagree. I think we should move on since this thread is blowing up. Thoughts on Foreman? I'm still thinking this could be TvT and thus I find him sitting in the background to be conspicuous. I go a few hours without posting because I have shit to do and I'm sitting in the background? Lulz. Well in my opinion, you weren't posting a lot. Fine by itself. But you were just talking about stuff which wasn't related to the main discussion at hand until recently. That stood out to me especially because I think it's two townies fighting. Thus someone ignoring it looks weird and like they don't want to take a side in it since either of them being lynched helps scum. So yes, my logic is pretty good, I'd say. I'd say you're logic is pretty trash because there are dynamics between those two that I'm not familiar with so me jumping in the middle would only muddy the waters. "not familiar with" If they were discussing a meta reference then I would believe this. However they weren't. Everything that was discussed with ExO/ TT was sourced from the game thread. Why would the dynamics be unfamiliar to you? Regardless of your response, what DID you make of ExO/ TT? You do realize that meta isn't the only thing that carries over between games, yes? Personality conflicts and how they resolve (or not) can also be alignment indicative if people are familiar with those clashing. If I were to get in the middle of TT/ExO, it could have interfered with the ability to read them. I prefer to wait until things resolve and then chime in to avoid that. That said, I am likiing ExO for town. I don't understand why TT has votes, it's something I'll need to read up on later tonight. 17% battery is telling me nou. A poor argument. A fresh set of eyes is extremely helpful when it comes to sorting players. You, as a player new to the site, would be ignorant of ExO/ TT's 'meta tells' and thus would pick up on minor details that players more experienced with them would otherwise dismiss as NAI. Perhaps it's just me but sometimes not knowing meta is a good thing because then you can offer a different perspective on a player that isn't tainted by meta. But anyway, I shall let you have fun with your dying phone. I'll await your thoughts on TT later.
You don't have to agree with me.
The fact you don't, however, doesn't change my mind.
OFN.
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Found an outlet.
On November 03 2016 23:21 Tictock wrote: Rels what happened to you? Your play the past few games is like your heart just isn't in it anymore.
I can't see scum posting this. Do I really need to explain why?
@TT: How did you get from:
On November 04 2016 00:56 Tictock wrote: In other news I see Skynx decided to start playing the game and I'm not hating it so far.
to:
On November 04 2016 01:30 Tictock wrote: Exo and Skynx are my top picks for lynch right now.
?
(emphasis mine)
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On November 04 2016 05:04 Tictock wrote: Actually didn't someone mention that Skynx said he tries to open scummy to see who goes after him?
If that's true then I have to throw out my line of thought about his early game. Clearly scum!Skynx would try to replicate that type of play from his towngames.
This sounds like TT is revoking a townlean from Skynx if I'm reading correctly... but he already said Skynx was one of his favored lynches.
I'm not following this. Please explain?
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On November 04 2016 05:49 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2016 05:34 ExO_ wrote:On November 04 2016 05:33 darthfoley wrote:On November 04 2016 05:28 ExO_ wrote:On November 04 2016 05:16 Tictock wrote:On November 04 2016 05:06 Calix wrote: I don't think ExO being defensive is scummy although yes, his case and tunnel against me was bad. It can also be coming from the POV of an overzealous townie. I believe that he's tunneled before as town, no?
However I'm having a hard time thinking that given that he just popped in to slap the third vote on your train and didn't even explain himself until I asked -_- I really do think Exo should be the lynch today. Seems way too likely that he is scum to me, but hey even if he isn't we can see he isn't adding anything to the game and is only VT so not a bad lynch right? + Show Spoiler +Kinda joking there... kinda... I might even try and write another case about him later if I feel like it. Also I might cry a little if I get mislynched D1 two games in a row... Either you believe my VT claim, or you don't. It's interesting logic to me that you would be okay with lynching me because "I'm only VT" if you don't believe my VT claim. Is this really all you're gonna contribute? Your filter is so subpar right now and you going back to the VT claim stuff? Are you going to ignore the inconsistency with Ticktock here? HE brought up that I was only VT, not me, and I responded that it makes no sense to kill me because I'm only VT if you don't believe my VT claim. Interesting... I wonder if there was a reason that I included that little spoiler in that post... Nah couldn't be. I don't think about what I post.
Love the snark. You're my kind of people.
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On November 04 2016 08:42 ExO_ wrote: NU is actively borrowing his reads for rels in an attempt to push me, with Marhgwell being 3rd on a wagon.
Marhgwell is scum, and probably NU
I disagree with both of your scumreads.
Mahrgell's flip on me looked like an honest reassessment. If he was scum, he could have accused me of AtE and used my reach out as grounds to double down on me.
NU... I don't get why you think he's scum.
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On November 04 2016 08:51 ExO_ wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2016 08:48 Foreman wrote:On November 04 2016 08:42 ExO_ wrote: NU is actively borrowing his reads for rels in an attempt to push me, with Marhgwell being 3rd on a wagon.
Marhgwell is scum, and probably NU I disagree with both of your scumreads. Mahrgell's flip on me looked like an honest reassessment. If he was scum, he could have accused me of AtE and used my reach out as grounds to double down on me. NU... I don't get why you think he's scum. What do you think of Mahgrell voting me without giving his reasoning just now? What about NU literally taking the words out of rels mouth as a reason to push me, even though rels didn't see it as a reason to scum read me. foreman read the damn thread. And do something to help town. What did this post accomplish here? What did you disagreeing with me (in a bad way) accomplish? N O T H I N G
My bad, let me be more productive, then.
##Vote: ExO_
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On November 04 2016 08:55 ExO_ wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2016 08:53 Foreman wrote:On November 04 2016 08:51 ExO_ wrote:On November 04 2016 08:48 Foreman wrote:On November 04 2016 08:42 ExO_ wrote: NU is actively borrowing his reads for rels in an attempt to push me, with Marhgwell being 3rd on a wagon.
Marhgwell is scum, and probably NU I disagree with both of your scumreads. Mahrgell's flip on me looked like an honest reassessment. If he was scum, he could have accused me of AtE and used my reach out as grounds to double down on me. NU... I don't get why you think he's scum. What do you think of Mahgrell voting me without giving his reasoning just now? What about NU literally taking the words out of rels mouth as a reason to push me, even though rels didn't see it as a reason to scum read me. foreman read the damn thread. And do something to help town. What did this post accomplish here? What did you disagreeing with me (in a bad way) accomplish? N O T H I N G My bad, let me be more productive, then. ##Vote: ExO_ for what reason? Why do you think I'm scum?
You're flat out lying about me and attempting to intimidate me, for one thing.
For another, your scumreads are trash and consist of two people pushing you. Because y'know, the entire scum team is going to throw everything they have into a d1 mislynch.
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On November 04 2016 08:59 ExO_ wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2016 08:58 Foreman wrote:On November 04 2016 08:55 ExO_ wrote:On November 04 2016 08:53 Foreman wrote:On November 04 2016 08:51 ExO_ wrote:On November 04 2016 08:48 Foreman wrote:On November 04 2016 08:42 ExO_ wrote: NU is actively borrowing his reads for rels in an attempt to push me, with Marhgwell being 3rd on a wagon.
Marhgwell is scum, and probably NU I disagree with both of your scumreads. Mahrgell's flip on me looked like an honest reassessment. If he was scum, he could have accused me of AtE and used my reach out as grounds to double down on me. NU... I don't get why you think he's scum. What do you think of Mahgrell voting me without giving his reasoning just now? What about NU literally taking the words out of rels mouth as a reason to push me, even though rels didn't see it as a reason to scum read me. foreman read the damn thread. And do something to help town. What did this post accomplish here? What did you disagreeing with me (in a bad way) accomplish? N O T H I N G My bad, let me be more productive, then. ##Vote: ExO_ for what reason? Why do you think I'm scum? You're flat out lying about me and attempting to intimidate me, for one thing. For another, your scumreads are trash and consist of two people pushing you. Because y'know, the entire scum team is going to throw everything they have into a d1 mislynch. how exactly am I lying about you? or attempting to intimidate you? Aren't you supposed to be mr.coldnotaffectedbyonlinepersonalities guy
No, I'm Mr. Distantandunintentionallytreatpeoplelikepixelsuntiligettoknowthem guy.
You are lying about me doing nothing in my disagreement with you. Before you say you weren't, be a pal and quote where i stated my thoughts on Mahrgell's flip prior to that post.
Otherwise, admit that you were simply trying to intimidate me into thinking I was being worthless.
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Only half the players, NU?
Why so conservative, dawg?
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On November 04 2016 14:28 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2016 08:24 Foreman wrote:@TT: How did you get from: On November 04 2016 00:56 Tictock wrote: In other news I see Skynx decided to start playing the game and I'm not hating it so far. to: On November 04 2016 01:30 Tictock wrote: Exo and Skynx are my top picks for lynch right now. ? (emphasis mine) Mostly the fact that "Not hating it" doesn't translate to "He's town"
Show nested quote +On November 04 2016 08:31 Foreman wrote:On November 04 2016 05:04 Tictock wrote: Actually didn't someone mention that Skynx said he tries to open scummy to see who goes after him?
If that's true then I have to throw out my line of thought about his early game. Clearly scum!Skynx would try to replicate that type of play from his towngames. This sounds like TT is revoking a townlean from Skynx if I'm reading correctly... but he already said Skynx was one of his favored lynches. I'm not following this. Please explain? I was referring to the fact that I had initially townread Skynx due to his early play.
Yeah, but what I'm not following was why you revoked the town lean after you already had him as a favored lynch.
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Also, how does "not hating it" not imply a town lean?
Do you like scum play?
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God, you guys... Talk. A. Lot.
So, Skynx got weird at end of day. NU is looking town as fuck. mahrgell is being mahrgell. TT is apparently looking at the possibility of me being scum (why, exactly?), and the rest of you are giving me a headache.
Carry on.
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On November 05 2016 07:40 NeverUnlucky wrote: They both write "lol" in caps (Oddly I find this scummy).
LOL
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On November 05 2016 11:46 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2016 08:21 Foreman wrote: God, you guys... Talk. A. Lot.
So, Skynx got weird at end of day. NU is looking town as fuck. mahrgell is being mahrgell. TT is apparently looking at the possibility of me being scum (why, exactly?), and the rest of you are giving me a headache.
Carry on. Thanks for your summary. Really in depth
I aim to please.
I live for acceptance.
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