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Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
November 04 2016 19:44 GMT
#1061
I would just like to say that Skynx's "ExO is town because of how he retaliated against the pushes against him" logic stretches back a long way. I'm in TT's filter and in Skynx's TT case, he criticises TT for scum-reading ExO because "he had right to do that, he got voted by someone else plus the guy making the push didn't vote for him and said he is not even scumreading him. He has to retaliate here otherwise people will accuse him for not going after shitty pushes." This means that Skynx didn't just randomly invent a reason to town-read ExO.

Also TT's point about "scum not wanting to draw attention to themselves" still doesn't make any sense. He town-reads Skynx for it (but retracts it later because 'he's self-aware about it being his town-meta'). This 'logic' leads to this delightful piece of wankery:

On November 04 2016 05:23 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2016 05:09 Calix wrote:
On November 04 2016 05:04 Tictock wrote:
Actually didn't someone mention that Skynx said he tries to open scummy to see who goes after him?

If that's true then I have to throw out my line of thought about his early game. Clearly scum!Skynx would try to replicate that type of play from his towngames.


Eh?

Your first line is correct. Skynx claims that he acts scummy to see who goes for the low-hanging fruit as a town tactic.

Your conclusion is making me scratch my head. I don't see how learning about Skynx' play-style -> thinking he'd replicate it as scum -> entrance posts are null.


Because I was giving his early posts a townlean because he was drawing attn to himself and scum tend to not want to do that.

However if Skynx has an established meta (and more importantly is self aware of it) of playing scummy at the start of the game to draw attention then my initial thinking no longer applies. Scum!skynx would go out of his way to act scummy at the start simply to replicate that aspect of his townplay.

And thinking about it more this was it would make Skynx's early posts make more sense if he is scum trying to replicate his bad start of day play. Stuff like calling the entire early game NAI, and complaining about reading constantly make a bit more sense coming from scum trolling than town trolling. However this is prob a line of thought that only makes sense to me.


The logic is absent. There are only assumptions to be found.

(also the last line hedges on his theory because even he knows how utterly moronic it is. I'm only noting this because he's been doing that hedging thing a lot)
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
November 04 2016 19:46 GMT
#1062
@Tictock


He also scum-reads ExO because 'he didn't want to draw attention to himself by only posting gifs'

What's the issue here? He somehow thinks that ExO overreacting to my question, being overly defensive and lashing out at me is something that...will NOT get ExO a shit-load of attention...?

He has to think that. Why?

- He scum-reads ExO.
- He claims that scum don't like attention and that ExO didn't post gifs because he didn't want attention.
- Therefore he has to think that ExO's reaction was intentionally designed to not get attention onto ExO.

Here's what I found:

On November 04 2016 06:09 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2016 06:01 Calix wrote:
But how hard is it to just say something like "oh I was joking" or "I wanted to play the game properly" or something? Maybe I'm just assuming that ExO is as amazingly intelligent as I am, but that doesn't seem like a stretch for scum.

His later behaviour is more concerning to me. I don't really like it and the point which I found the most interesting from him is something that you claim was a joke. (I think)


Thats actually kinda my point, town!Exo could have said the same things, or started posting gifs to joke around.

What did we see? Him getting butthurt that you called him out for not posting Gifs and attacking you for it.


How does anyone think that attacking me and getting salty are things that won't draw attention to ExO?
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
November 04 2016 19:49 GMT
#1063
To be fair you've ignored Foreman and I before, so you have no right to complain now.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
November 04 2016 19:51 GMT
#1064
On November 05 2016 04:49 NeverUnlucky wrote:
To be fair you've ignored Foreman and I before, so you have no right to complain now.


So instead of posting anything relevant to my case, you make an empty post. Okay.
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
November 04 2016 19:52 GMT
#1065
On November 05 2016 04:51 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2016 04:49 NeverUnlucky wrote:
To be fair you've ignored Foreman and I before, so you have no right to complain now.


So instead of posting anything relevant to my case, you make an empty post. Okay.

Will make a proper response later, just to be busy to read your case atm
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
November 04 2016 19:52 GMT
#1066
too busy*
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
November 04 2016 19:53 GMT
#1067
On November 05 2016 04:52 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2016 04:51 Calix wrote:
On November 05 2016 04:49 NeverUnlucky wrote:
To be fair you've ignored Foreman and I before, so you have no right to complain now.


So instead of posting anything relevant to my case, you make an empty post. Okay.

Will make a proper response later, just to be busy to read your case atm


I can see why Skynx wants you dead. You just posted for the sake of posting.

Piss poor play if you're town.
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
November 04 2016 19:57 GMT
#1068
On November 05 2016 04:52 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2016 04:51 Calix wrote:
On November 05 2016 04:49 NeverUnlucky wrote:
To be fair you've ignored Foreman and I before, so you have no right to complain now.


So instead of posting anything relevant to my case, you make an empty post. Okay.

Will make a proper response later, just to be busy to read your case atm

I retract this.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
November 04 2016 19:58 GMT
#1069
On November 05 2016 04:57 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2016 04:52 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On November 05 2016 04:51 Calix wrote:
On November 05 2016 04:49 NeverUnlucky wrote:
To be fair you've ignored Foreman and I before, so you have no right to complain now.


So instead of posting anything relevant to my case, you make an empty post. Okay.

Will make a proper response later, just to be busy to read your case atm

I retract this.


Which part?

Because any response you can give to that makes you look terrible.

You're either saying "I refuse to read your case because you said I'm playing badly if town" or "I'm not actually busy"
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
November 04 2016 19:59 GMT
#1070
And you have enough time to spam, make empty posts and play anti-town but not enough time to read this:

On November 05 2016 04:46 Calix wrote:
@Tictock


He also scum-reads ExO because 'he didn't want to draw attention to himself by only posting gifs'

What's the issue here? He somehow thinks that ExO overreacting to my question, being overly defensive and lashing out at me is something that...will NOT get ExO a shit-load of attention...?

He has to think that. Why?

- He scum-reads ExO.
- He claims that scum don't like attention and that ExO didn't post gifs because he didn't want attention.
- Therefore he has to think that ExO's reaction was intentionally designed to not get attention onto ExO.

Here's what I found:

Show nested quote +
On November 04 2016 06:09 Tictock wrote:
On November 04 2016 06:01 Calix wrote:
But how hard is it to just say something like "oh I was joking" or "I wanted to play the game properly" or something? Maybe I'm just assuming that ExO is as amazingly intelligent as I am, but that doesn't seem like a stretch for scum.

His later behaviour is more concerning to me. I don't really like it and the point which I found the most interesting from him is something that you claim was a joke. (I think)


Thats actually kinda my point, town!Exo could have said the same things, or started posting gifs to joke around.

What did we see? Him getting butthurt that you called him out for not posting Gifs and attacking you for it.


How does anyone think that attacking me and getting salty are things that won't draw attention to ExO?
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
November 04 2016 20:55 GMT
#1071
On November 05 2016 04:59 Calix wrote:
And you have enough time to spam, make empty posts and play anti-town but not enough time to read this:

Show nested quote +
On November 05 2016 04:46 Calix wrote:
@Tictock


He also scum-reads ExO because 'he didn't want to draw attention to himself by only posting gifs'

What's the issue here? He somehow thinks that ExO overreacting to my question, being overly defensive and lashing out at me is something that...will NOT get ExO a shit-load of attention...?

He has to think that. Why?

- He scum-reads ExO.
- He claims that scum don't like attention and that ExO didn't post gifs because he didn't want attention.
- Therefore he has to think that ExO's reaction was intentionally designed to not get attention onto ExO.

Here's what I found:

On November 04 2016 06:09 Tictock wrote:
On November 04 2016 06:01 Calix wrote:
But how hard is it to just say something like "oh I was joking" or "I wanted to play the game properly" or something? Maybe I'm just assuming that ExO is as amazingly intelligent as I am, but that doesn't seem like a stretch for scum.

His later behaviour is more concerning to me. I don't really like it and the point which I found the most interesting from him is something that you claim was a joke. (I think)


Thats actually kinda my point, town!Exo could have said the same things, or started posting gifs to joke around.

What did we see? Him getting butthurt that you called him out for not posting Gifs and attacking you for it.


How does anyone think that attacking me and getting salty are things that won't draw attention to ExO?

I don't have time to deal with your toxicity. Please stop trying to provoke me, I am trying to have a clean game and improve.

I read your posts. I think your first point is okay, but it would be even better if you highlighted the inconsistency in TT saying that Skynx was a TR before for drawing attention to himself while he did not consider this argument when scum-reading ExO who drew a lot of attention with his claim.

I think you misinterpreted his point about the gifs. From my understanding, he was saying that ExO dropped the idea of posting gifs because he had rolled mafia and did not want to be policy lynched (which I threatened him for).

Also not sure what the bolded has to do there as TT only said that posting gifs was prone to drawing attention. His point never was that ExO would try to keep a low profile by not attacking anyone and whatnot.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
November 04 2016 21:02 GMT
#1072
On November 05 2016 05:55 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2016 04:59 Calix wrote:
And you have enough time to spam, make empty posts and play anti-town but not enough time to read this:

On November 05 2016 04:46 Calix wrote:
@Tictock


He also scum-reads ExO because 'he didn't want to draw attention to himself by only posting gifs'

What's the issue here? He somehow thinks that ExO overreacting to my question, being overly defensive and lashing out at me is something that...will NOT get ExO a shit-load of attention...?

He has to think that. Why?

- He scum-reads ExO.
- He claims that scum don't like attention and that ExO didn't post gifs because he didn't want attention.
- Therefore he has to think that ExO's reaction was intentionally designed to not get attention onto ExO.

Here's what I found:

On November 04 2016 06:09 Tictock wrote:
On November 04 2016 06:01 Calix wrote:
But how hard is it to just say something like "oh I was joking" or "I wanted to play the game properly" or something? Maybe I'm just assuming that ExO is as amazingly intelligent as I am, but that doesn't seem like a stretch for scum.

His later behaviour is more concerning to me. I don't really like it and the point which I found the most interesting from him is something that you claim was a joke. (I think)


Thats actually kinda my point, town!Exo could have said the same things, or started posting gifs to joke around.

What did we see? Him getting butthurt that you called him out for not posting Gifs and attacking you for it.


How does anyone think that attacking me and getting salty are things that won't draw attention to ExO?

I don't have time to deal with your toxicity. Please stop trying to provoke me, I am trying to have a clean game and improve.

I read your posts. I think your first point is okay, but it would be even better if you highlighted the inconsistency in TT saying that Skynx was a TR before for drawing attention to himself while he did not consider this argument when scum-reading ExO who drew a lot of attention with his claim.

I think you misinterpreted his point about the gifs. From my understanding, he was saying that ExO dropped the idea of posting gifs because he had rolled mafia and did not want to be policy lynched (which I threatened him for).

Also not sure what the bolded has to do there as TT only said that posting gifs was prone to drawing attention. His point never was that ExO would try to keep a low profile by not attacking anyone and whatnot.


If you were really trying to improve then you'd just shut up and do the improving instead of trying to twist my words against me. Keep that in mind.

Your second paragraph is weird. Does it matter if my point was mediocre if you agree with it for different reasoning?

TT never said anything about PLs though. He said that ExO was mafia who didn't want the attention that posting gifs and nothing else would give him.

I'm saying that TT's reason for scum-reading ExO doesn't make sense because ExO's play was clearly drawing a lot of attention to him...which TT considers a town trait...but he claims that ExO is mafia because he didn't post purely in gifs because it would draw attention to him. But ExO's 'new play' was drawing attention to him anyway...and he never considered this or think that ExO might be town for that or say "well he is drawing attention to himself but he is still mafia because X" or anything.

I just do not understand his thought process here.
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
November 04 2016 21:16 GMT
#1073
On November 05 2016 06:02 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2016 05:55 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On November 05 2016 04:59 Calix wrote:
And you have enough time to spam, make empty posts and play anti-town but not enough time to read this:

On November 05 2016 04:46 Calix wrote:
@Tictock


He also scum-reads ExO because 'he didn't want to draw attention to himself by only posting gifs'

What's the issue here? He somehow thinks that ExO overreacting to my question, being overly defensive and lashing out at me is something that...will NOT get ExO a shit-load of attention...?

He has to think that. Why?

- He scum-reads ExO.
- He claims that scum don't like attention and that ExO didn't post gifs because he didn't want attention.
- Therefore he has to think that ExO's reaction was intentionally designed to not get attention onto ExO.

Here's what I found:

On November 04 2016 06:09 Tictock wrote:
On November 04 2016 06:01 Calix wrote:
But how hard is it to just say something like "oh I was joking" or "I wanted to play the game properly" or something? Maybe I'm just assuming that ExO is as amazingly intelligent as I am, but that doesn't seem like a stretch for scum.

His later behaviour is more concerning to me. I don't really like it and the point which I found the most interesting from him is something that you claim was a joke. (I think)


Thats actually kinda my point, town!Exo could have said the same things, or started posting gifs to joke around.

What did we see? Him getting butthurt that you called him out for not posting Gifs and attacking you for it.


How does anyone think that attacking me and getting salty are things that won't draw attention to ExO?

I don't have time to deal with your toxicity. Please stop trying to provoke me, I am trying to have a clean game and improve.

I read your posts. I think your first point is okay, but it would be even better if you highlighted the inconsistency in TT saying that Skynx was a TR before for drawing attention to himself while he did not consider this argument when scum-reading ExO who drew a lot of attention with his claim.

I think you misinterpreted his point about the gifs. From my understanding, he was saying that ExO dropped the idea of posting gifs because he had rolled mafia and did not want to be policy lynched (which I threatened him for).

Also not sure what the bolded has to do there as TT only said that posting gifs was prone to drawing attention. His point never was that ExO would try to keep a low profile by not attacking anyone and whatnot.


If you were really trying to improve then you'd just shut up and do the improving instead of trying to twist my words against me. Keep that in mind.

Your second paragraph is weird. Does it matter if my point was mediocre if you agree with it for different reasoning?

TT never said anything about PLs though. He said that ExO was mafia who didn't want the attention that posting gifs and nothing else would give him.

I'm saying that TT's reason for scum-reading ExO doesn't make sense because ExO's play was clearly drawing a lot of attention to him...which TT considers a town trait...but he claims that ExO is mafia because he didn't post purely in gifs because it would draw attention to him. But ExO's 'new play' was drawing attention to him anyway...and he never considered this or think that ExO might be town for that or say "well he is drawing attention to himself but he is still mafia because X" or anything.

I just do not understand his thought process here.


--------------------------------

I did not say that your point was mediocre, miss. c:

I think it is what he implied. If you have a quote of him saying that ExO did not want attention at all, do share it.

That is my point in paragraph 2. c:
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
November 04 2016 21:17 GMT
#1074
On November 05 2016 04:46 Calix wrote:
@Tictock


He also scum-reads ExO because 'he didn't want to draw attention to himself by only posting gifs'

What's the issue here? He somehow thinks that ExO overreacting to my question, being overly defensive and lashing out at me is something that...will NOT get ExO a shit-load of attention...?

He has to think that. Why?

- He scum-reads ExO.
- He claims that scum don't like attention and that ExO didn't post gifs because he didn't want attention.
- Therefore he has to think that ExO's reaction was intentionally designed to not get attention onto ExO.

Here's what I found:

Show nested quote +
On November 04 2016 06:09 Tictock wrote:
On November 04 2016 06:01 Calix wrote:
But how hard is it to just say something like "oh I was joking" or "I wanted to play the game properly" or something? Maybe I'm just assuming that ExO is as amazingly intelligent as I am, but that doesn't seem like a stretch for scum.

His later behaviour is more concerning to me. I don't really like it and the point which I found the most interesting from him is something that you claim was a joke. (I think)


Thats actually kinda my point, town!Exo could have said the same things, or started posting gifs to joke around.

What did we see? Him getting butthurt that you called him out for not posting Gifs and attacking you for it.


How does anyone think that attacking me and getting salty are things that won't draw attention to ExO?


My god you are digging so deep into this, and I thought we went over it already.

Exo's scumread on you was pure reaction, even when I thought he was scum I thought that. I never thought it was some grandly designed post, it was basically just like the rest of Exo's reads which were just "Fuck you for scum reading me".

I really don't get why this argument keeps coming up, there was a very clear difference between Exo's early posting and Skynx's early posting. I'm not going to use the same metric/logic/whatever when I feel like there is a clear difference in the posting.

If you are going to keep up this line of thinking you should actually relook at their opening posts and tell me why I should have blindly used the same logic with both of them. Then you should explain why I, as scum, would even bother suggesting skynx might be town for drawing attn to himself rather than just let him draw that attn and push him along with Exo... which I did anyways.

The TLDR of this is Exo's posts looked like he was just reacting and trying to step up to play seriously after you questioned him, Skynx responded to pressure with more bullshitting. Not the same posting, not using the same logic, hence my read was different.

Please scum read me for better reasons, talking about the same point over and over gets old.
I can take that responsibility.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
November 04 2016 21:22 GMT
#1075
On November 05 2016 06:16 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2016 06:02 Calix wrote:
On November 05 2016 05:55 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On November 05 2016 04:59 Calix wrote:
And you have enough time to spam, make empty posts and play anti-town but not enough time to read this:

On November 05 2016 04:46 Calix wrote:
@Tictock


He also scum-reads ExO because 'he didn't want to draw attention to himself by only posting gifs'

What's the issue here? He somehow thinks that ExO overreacting to my question, being overly defensive and lashing out at me is something that...will NOT get ExO a shit-load of attention...?

He has to think that. Why?

- He scum-reads ExO.
- He claims that scum don't like attention and that ExO didn't post gifs because he didn't want attention.
- Therefore he has to think that ExO's reaction was intentionally designed to not get attention onto ExO.

Here's what I found:

On November 04 2016 06:09 Tictock wrote:
On November 04 2016 06:01 Calix wrote:
But how hard is it to just say something like "oh I was joking" or "I wanted to play the game properly" or something? Maybe I'm just assuming that ExO is as amazingly intelligent as I am, but that doesn't seem like a stretch for scum.

His later behaviour is more concerning to me. I don't really like it and the point which I found the most interesting from him is something that you claim was a joke. (I think)


Thats actually kinda my point, town!Exo could have said the same things, or started posting gifs to joke around.

What did we see? Him getting butthurt that you called him out for not posting Gifs and attacking you for it.


How does anyone think that attacking me and getting salty are things that won't draw attention to ExO?

I don't have time to deal with your toxicity. Please stop trying to provoke me, I am trying to have a clean game and improve.

I read your posts. I think your first point is okay, but it would be even better if you highlighted the inconsistency in TT saying that Skynx was a TR before for drawing attention to himself while he did not consider this argument when scum-reading ExO who drew a lot of attention with his claim.

I think you misinterpreted his point about the gifs. From my understanding, he was saying that ExO dropped the idea of posting gifs because he had rolled mafia and did not want to be policy lynched (which I threatened him for).

Also not sure what the bolded has to do there as TT only said that posting gifs was prone to drawing attention. His point never was that ExO would try to keep a low profile by not attacking anyone and whatnot.


If you were really trying to improve then you'd just shut up and do the improving instead of trying to twist my words against me. Keep that in mind.

Your second paragraph is weird. Does it matter if my point was mediocre if you agree with it for different reasoning?

TT never said anything about PLs though. He said that ExO was mafia who didn't want the attention that posting gifs and nothing else would give him.

I'm saying that TT's reason for scum-reading ExO doesn't make sense because ExO's play was clearly drawing a lot of attention to him...which TT considers a town trait...but he claims that ExO is mafia because he didn't post purely in gifs because it would draw attention to him. But ExO's 'new play' was drawing attention to him anyway...and he never considered this or think that ExO might be town for that or say "well he is drawing attention to himself but he is still mafia because X" or anything.

I just do not understand his thought process here.


--------------------------------

I did not say that your point was mediocre, miss. c:

I think it is what he implied. If you have a quote of him saying that ExO did not want attention at all, do share it.

That is my point in paragraph 2. c:


Here you go:

Exo is prob scum for his reaction to Calix's questions as well as him dropping the gif stuff. Calix was right to ask him why he dropped his "I'm gunna post in mostly gifs" kus the most likely reason why he would drop that plan is if he rolled scum and decided it would draw too much attn to himself. I think the fact the he only posted the one gif kinda supports that as well.


I stand by my assessment. Him changing his stance from "I'm gunna post gifs and have fun" to "I'm gunna claim VT and get all serious about shit" is far more likely to come from someone who rolled scum and doesn't want to draw attention for posting mostly gifs.


I am going to wait for TT's response before I talk any more about this. In the meantime, how have your reads changed since ExO's lynch?
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
November 04 2016 21:26 GMT
#1076
On November 05 2016 06:17 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2016 04:46 Calix wrote:
@Tictock


He also scum-reads ExO because 'he didn't want to draw attention to himself by only posting gifs'

What's the issue here? He somehow thinks that ExO overreacting to my question, being overly defensive and lashing out at me is something that...will NOT get ExO a shit-load of attention...?

He has to think that. Why?

- He scum-reads ExO.
- He claims that scum don't like attention and that ExO didn't post gifs because he didn't want attention.
- Therefore he has to think that ExO's reaction was intentionally designed to not get attention onto ExO.

Here's what I found:

On November 04 2016 06:09 Tictock wrote:
On November 04 2016 06:01 Calix wrote:
But how hard is it to just say something like "oh I was joking" or "I wanted to play the game properly" or something? Maybe I'm just assuming that ExO is as amazingly intelligent as I am, but that doesn't seem like a stretch for scum.

His later behaviour is more concerning to me. I don't really like it and the point which I found the most interesting from him is something that you claim was a joke. (I think)


Thats actually kinda my point, town!Exo could have said the same things, or started posting gifs to joke around.

What did we see? Him getting butthurt that you called him out for not posting Gifs and attacking you for it.


How does anyone think that attacking me and getting salty are things that won't draw attention to ExO?


My god you are digging so deep into this, and I thought we went over it already.

Exo's scumread on you was pure reaction, even when I thought he was scum I thought that. I never thought it was some grandly designed post, it was basically just like the rest of Exo's reads which were just "Fuck you for scum reading me".

I really don't get why this argument keeps coming up, there was a very clear difference between Exo's early posting and Skynx's early posting. I'm not going to use the same metric/logic/whatever when I feel like there is a clear difference in the posting.

If you are going to keep up this line of thinking you should actually relook at their opening posts and tell me why I should have blindly used the same logic with both of them. Then you should explain why I, as scum, would even bother suggesting skynx might be town for drawing attn to himself rather than just let him draw that attn and push him along with Exo... which I did anyways.

The TLDR of this is Exo's posts looked like he was just reacting and trying to step up to play seriously after you questioned him, Skynx responded to pressure with more bullshitting. Not the same posting, not using the same logic, hence my read was different.

Please scum read me for better reasons, talking about the same point over and over gets old.


Your first point isn't terrible.

However that was kind of what I was going to say in response to your "why would I do X as scum" question so I don't find that part of your argument convincing whatsoever.

I'm being lazy with my response because you promised that you'd be re-evaluating after ExO flipped town and I don't care to detract from that. So please don't let me interfere. I'll figure out what you are sooner or later anyway.
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
November 04 2016 21:29 GMT
#1077
On November 05 2016 06:17 Tictock wrote:
Please scum read me for better reasons, talking about the same point over and over gets old.

The TL;DR of this game c:

On November 05 2016 06:22 Calix wrote:
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On November 05 2016 06:16 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On November 05 2016 06:02 Calix wrote:
On November 05 2016 05:55 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On November 05 2016 04:59 Calix wrote:
And you have enough time to spam, make empty posts and play anti-town but not enough time to read this:

On November 05 2016 04:46 Calix wrote:
@Tictock


He also scum-reads ExO because 'he didn't want to draw attention to himself by only posting gifs'

What's the issue here? He somehow thinks that ExO overreacting to my question, being overly defensive and lashing out at me is something that...will NOT get ExO a shit-load of attention...?

He has to think that. Why?

- He scum-reads ExO.
- He claims that scum don't like attention and that ExO didn't post gifs because he didn't want attention.
- Therefore he has to think that ExO's reaction was intentionally designed to not get attention onto ExO.

Here's what I found:

On November 04 2016 06:09 Tictock wrote:
On November 04 2016 06:01 Calix wrote:
But how hard is it to just say something like "oh I was joking" or "I wanted to play the game properly" or something? Maybe I'm just assuming that ExO is as amazingly intelligent as I am, but that doesn't seem like a stretch for scum.

His later behaviour is more concerning to me. I don't really like it and the point which I found the most interesting from him is something that you claim was a joke. (I think)


Thats actually kinda my point, town!Exo could have said the same things, or started posting gifs to joke around.

What did we see? Him getting butthurt that you called him out for not posting Gifs and attacking you for it.


How does anyone think that attacking me and getting salty are things that won't draw attention to ExO?

I don't have time to deal with your toxicity. Please stop trying to provoke me, I am trying to have a clean game and improve.

I read your posts. I think your first point is okay, but it would be even better if you highlighted the inconsistency in TT saying that Skynx was a TR before for drawing attention to himself while he did not consider this argument when scum-reading ExO who drew a lot of attention with his claim.

I think you misinterpreted his point about the gifs. From my understanding, he was saying that ExO dropped the idea of posting gifs because he had rolled mafia and did not want to be policy lynched (which I threatened him for).

Also not sure what the bolded has to do there as TT only said that posting gifs was prone to drawing attention. His point never was that ExO would try to keep a low profile by not attacking anyone and whatnot.


If you were really trying to improve then you'd just shut up and do the improving instead of trying to twist my words against me. Keep that in mind.

Your second paragraph is weird. Does it matter if my point was mediocre if you agree with it for different reasoning?

TT never said anything about PLs though. He said that ExO was mafia who didn't want the attention that posting gifs and nothing else would give him.

I'm saying that TT's reason for scum-reading ExO doesn't make sense because ExO's play was clearly drawing a lot of attention to him...which TT considers a town trait...but he claims that ExO is mafia because he didn't post purely in gifs because it would draw attention to him. But ExO's 'new play' was drawing attention to him anyway...and he never considered this or think that ExO might be town for that or say "well he is drawing attention to himself but he is still mafia because X" or anything.

I just do not understand his thought process here.


--------------------------------

I did not say that your point was mediocre, miss. c:

I think it is what he implied. If you have a quote of him saying that ExO did not want attention at all, do share it.

That is my point in paragraph 2. c:


Here you go:

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Exo is prob scum for his reaction to Calix's questions as well as him dropping the gif stuff. Calix was right to ask him why he dropped his "I'm gunna post in mostly gifs" kus the most likely reason why he would drop that plan is if he rolled scum and decided it would draw too much attn to himself. I think the fact the he only posted the one gif kinda supports that as well.


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I stand by my assessment. Him changing his stance from "I'm gunna post gifs and have fun" to "I'm gunna claim VT and get all serious about shit" is far more likely to come from someone who rolled scum and doesn't want to draw attention for posting mostly gifs.


I am going to wait for TT's response before I talk any more about this. In the meantime, how have your reads changed since ExO's lynch?

He specifically states that the attention would come from posting gifs though.

I do not think it is the right time to discuss my reads.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
November 04 2016 21:33 GMT
#1078
On November 05 2016 06:29 NeverUnlucky wrote:
I do not think it is the right time to discuss my reads.


What? Why?
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
November 04 2016 21:36 GMT
#1079
On November 05 2016 06:33 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2016 06:29 NeverUnlucky wrote:
I do not think it is the right time to discuss my reads.


What? Why?

Isn't it bad to discuss reads at night?
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
November 04 2016 21:37 GMT
#1080
On November 05 2016 06:36 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2016 06:33 Calix wrote:
On November 05 2016 06:29 NeverUnlucky wrote:
I do not think it is the right time to discuss my reads.


What? Why?

Isn't it bad to discuss reads at night?


Night phase is just another day phase.

But I'm aware of the school of thought that you're using. I just disagree with it.
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