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On November 05 2016 03:04 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2016 02:59 Calix wrote:On November 05 2016 02:59 Rels wrote:On November 05 2016 02:57 ExO_ wrote:On November 05 2016 02:56 Rels wrote:On November 05 2016 02:53 ExO_ wrote:On November 05 2016 02:50 Calix wrote:On November 05 2016 02:47 ExO_ wrote:
Calix/Skynx any questions you have please ask me, before I flip as town please ask now. I will try my best to answer quickly. I'm 100% sure you two are town and the people like NU trying to discredit Skynx are almost certainly going to be scum Yeah, can you please summarise/ conclude your reads in one post? I think that would help people see what your reads were. You can even just cobble your previous posts into one since you have 10 minutes left. This is something I'm not very good at. a lot of my reads I base on what I think, and researching specific examples is hard. I think out of TT/Rels/NU there is at least 1 scum. Maybe 2. TT or rels should have known better than to let this lynch go down like it did, and instead both pushed it hard. I would look at them heavily. NU's game has just been really bad all around, hard to say if its because he's bad or because he's scum though. I didn't like the way mahgrell played, and the way he's afk now but I think he's something to look at after the top 3. DF is townier than mahgrell. Foreman is angry town I'm tired of seeing this. I only started pushing you as my main scumread a few hours ago. You even scumread me for not having a strong scumread on you yesterday. That makes another thing that is not consistent with your reads actually. I'm having doubts but I think you'll flip scum. I don't think i'll shennannie. again, distancing himself just like TT. Look very very very closely att TT/rels. they're both experienced and they both should've known this was a bad lynch. If you're town, you can go fuck yourself. I feel like this is unnecessarily aggressive as a response. What about ExO's post was that objectionable? The whole idea that I have 0 reason to push him and that I'm bad and should know better fuck you exo
He wasn't calling you bad. He was saying that one/ both of you/ TT are scum because you thought it was a good lynch and since you two are experienced, that means that one/ both of you are pushing a mislynch on purpose.
From the perspective of a wagoned townie, that makes sense to me and I don't see why you'd take issue with it since he was calling you mafia, not bad.
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nah dude, mahrgell can't be scummy because first time scum can't spam or something like that
LoL
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On November 05 2016 03:07 darthfoley wrote:
nah dude, mahrgell can't be scummy because first time scum can't spam or something like that
LoL
lol
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On November 05 2016 03:04 Calix wrote:
Can't really say that was a surprise after that EOD.
I'm going to go and colour-code that host vote-sheet thing and then I'll be doing some rereading of ExO's posts.
Scratch the first part. Too many links to see what I'm doing.
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Also kind of over Rels taking it personally every time he has a major hand in a mislynch and the mislynched person is mad at him. Unless he's mafia, which wouldn't classify this as a mislynch
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On November 05 2016 03:08 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2016 03:04 Calix wrote:
Can't really say that was a surprise after that EOD.
I'm going to go and colour-code that host vote-sheet thing and then I'll be doing some rereading of ExO's posts. Scratch the first part. Too many links to see what I'm doing.
I'll do it for you. What do you want green and red?
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On November 05 2016 03:08 darthfoley wrote:
Also kind of over Rels taking it personally every time he has a major hand in a mislynch and the mislynched person is mad at him. Unless he's mafia, which wouldn't classify this as a mislynch
Why do you think Rels had a 'major part' in ExO's ML? TT was clearly the one driving that while Rels popped in later after ExO was an established wagon.
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On November 05 2016 03:09 NeverUnlucky wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2016 03:08 Calix wrote:On November 05 2016 03:04 Calix wrote:
Can't really say that was a surprise after that EOD.
I'm going to go and colour-code that host vote-sheet thing and then I'll be doing some rereading of ExO's posts. Scratch the first part. Too many links to see what I'm doing. I'll do it for you. What do you want green and red?
I just wanted ExO/ Calix highlighted green since those are the confirmed alignments to me.
But don't bother. Better to do it after the night kill tbh.
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On November 05 2016 03:06 NeverUnlucky wrote:
I think mahrgell's post at EoD about the lynch being informative was really really scummy.
Yeah, considering that I was probably the main driving force behind the Exo-lynch. Indeed. I have to conclude I'm scum now. Can I vote myself?
On a more serious note: I was mainly going at the fact that with the lynch, which I really wanted to go through, there may more urgent topics or me to look into may pop up. Well... I'm honestly not sure if this mislynch is more informative than a scum lynch.
I admire Exos EoD effort, but I have difficulty making sense of it. Let's add another point to my task list. I'm still in fmily time, but should work down my list from tmrw noon until EoN, just in case.
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On November 05 2016 03:10 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2016 03:09 NeverUnlucky wrote:On November 05 2016 03:08 Calix wrote:On November 05 2016 03:04 Calix wrote:
Can't really say that was a surprise after that EOD.
I'm going to go and colour-code that host vote-sheet thing and then I'll be doing some rereading of ExO's posts. Scratch the first part. Too many links to see what I'm doing. I'll do it for you. What do you want green and red? I just wanted ExO/ Calix highlighted green since those are the confirmed alignments to me. But don't bother. Better to do it after the night kill tbh.
Can you please do it before EoN? Reason should be obvious. Announcing to do analysis after EoN is something I certainly dislike.
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On November 05 2016 03:11 mahrgell wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2016 03:06 NeverUnlucky wrote:
I think mahrgell's post at EoD about the lynch being informative was really really scummy. Yeah, considering that I was probably the main driving force behind the Exo-lynch. Indeed. I have to conclude I'm scum now. Can I vote myself? On a more serious note: I was mainly going at the fact that with the lynch, which I really wanted to go through, there may more urgent topics or me to look into may pop up. Well... I'm honestly not sure if this mislynch is more informative than a scum lynch. I admire Exos EoD effort, but I have difficulty making sense of it. Let's add another point to my task list. I'm still in fmily time, but should work down my list from tmrw noon until EoN, just in case.
Tictock was the main driving force followed by Rels. As ExO stated, you were the "3rd".
Apathy noted.
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So I think we should take TT into consideration more. I'm wary because he just led a ML and I'm not sure wherever scum!TT would do this. After all, people will naturally focus on the person who had yelled for ExO's head the entire day and only had one scum-read and scum don't want attention.
However I find TT's reluctance to see ExO's actions from a town perspective prior to the lynch to be suspect. He ignored Rels' earlier point about ExO's VT claim and kept making generalisations about ExO's play at EOD.
(also salty/ biased because his tinfoil theory against me was absolute crap)
So I am not a fan right now.
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On November 05 2016 03:13 NeverUnlucky wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2016 03:11 mahrgell wrote:On November 05 2016 03:06 NeverUnlucky wrote:
I think mahrgell's post at EoD about the lynch being informative was really really scummy. Yeah, considering that I was probably the main driving force behind the Exo-lynch. Indeed. I have to conclude I'm scum now. Can I vote myself? On a more serious note: I was mainly going at the fact that with the lynch, which I really wanted to go through, there may more urgent topics or me to look into may pop up. Well... I'm honestly not sure if this mislynch is more informative than a scum lynch. I admire Exos EoD effort, but I have difficulty making sense of it. Let's add another point to my task list. I'm still in fmily time, but should work down my list from tmrw noon until EoN, just in case. Tictock was the main driving force followed by Rels. As ExO stated, you were the "3rd". Apathy noted.
I answered this "you were third" thingie to Exo already. How about reading?
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I am respectfully take off my tinfoil regarding Calix.
So with Exo flipping town, and me being the only other wagon that had much steam I can safely say that mafia was under very little pressure D1.
I'm kinda considering Skynx/Foreman right now, but will come back to this a bit later with fresh eyes.
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On November 05 2016 03:15 mahrgell wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2016 03:13 NeverUnlucky wrote:On November 05 2016 03:11 mahrgell wrote:On November 05 2016 03:06 NeverUnlucky wrote:
I think mahrgell's post at EoD about the lynch being informative was really really scummy. Yeah, considering that I was probably the main driving force behind the Exo-lynch. Indeed. I have to conclude I'm scum now. Can I vote myself? On a more serious note: I was mainly going at the fact that with the lynch, which I really wanted to go through, there may more urgent topics or me to look into may pop up. Well... I'm honestly not sure if this mislynch is more informative than a scum lynch. I admire Exos EoD effort, but I have difficulty making sense of it. Let's add another point to my task list. I'm still in fmily time, but should work down my list from tmrw noon until EoN, just in case. Tictock was the main driving force followed by Rels. As ExO stated, you were the "3rd". Apathy noted. I answered this "you were third" thingie to Exo already. How about reading?
I stand by my statement that you really were not a driving force of the ExO lynch.
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Btw, I'm still finding the relationship progression of players with me very interesting. It seems like I have been read as everything from strongtownlean to certainscum by most players. I feel like I'm always floating between getting buddied and getting shaded. If anyone feels like looking into it...
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I'm really annoyed at myself right now.
I was actually correct with my initial town-read on ExO (even if crappy) and I talked myself out of it. That's so fucking irritating.
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On November 05 2016 03:10 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2016 03:08 darthfoley wrote:
Also kind of over Rels taking it personally every time he has a major hand in a mislynch and the mislynched person is mad at him. Unless he's mafia, which wouldn't classify this as a mislynch Why do you think Rels had a 'major part' in ExO's ML? TT was clearly the one driving that while Rels popped in later after ExO was an established wagon.
Major part doesn't mean person X started the wagon. I felt like Rels, before he voted on me, was pushing the ExO envelope pretty hard, before he cased me, then went back to ExO for the rest of the day and basically shit on him. Like TT, his conclusion was very narrow: you're either scum or fuck you, which doesn't really leave any room for doubt-- which a few of us cited as the EoD concluded.
I started to get cold feet because ExO was spewing at the end, but Rels didn't seem to have those reservations. He's UBER tunneled me in the past as TvT (but it was a 15 man cell mafia game, so the stakes were a lot higher and the circumstances are very different from a 9 man game). Is this reaction usual for his town play? @ anyone who's played with him extensively
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Not sure how I feel about Rels casing me hard, scum leaning me substantially, then up and leaving that vote without much of an explanation for ExO?
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On November 05 2016 02:45 mahrgell wrote:
Okay, I just made it back and finished reading up. I see no reason to change my vote. Exo's posts past my case have ust reinforced my impression further. I guess we see him flip and continue from there. I finally want to dive into Skynx/DF and TT. ^.^ Should be doing that before this nights Habs game if family doesn't keep me busy. Otherwise I for sure will have it done before end of the night.
At this point I'm actually a bit surprised how I'm suddenly everybodys darling. I guess I want to look i this progression too, as I feel kinda buddied here.
Then again... lets flip Exo first... This certainly will provide interesting information.
On November 05 2016 03:18 mahrgell wrote:
Btw, I'm still finding the relationship progression of players with me very interesting. It seems like I have been read as everything from strongtownlean to certainscum by most players. I feel like I'm always floating between getting buddied and getting shaded. If anyone feels like looking into it...
Wtf are these posts man? Can someone explain to me WHY they're reading mahrgell anything more than null?
Omg I feel buddied, i'm everyone's darling!!! so spook!!!! I (mahrgell) will look into it!
I feel like i'm floating between getting buddied and shaded? Anyone (not mahrgell) want to look into it?!
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