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Tictock
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On November 06 2016 09:29 Calix wrote: If we're all in agreement that Foreman is scum then I'm voting for him. Not going to get fancy here. I just want scum dead. ##vote Foreman Yea I'm For this... ##vote Foreman ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/syYZ65c.gif) | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
On November 06 2016 09:43 darthfoley wrote: I'd like you to expand on what parts of my posts you don't like. My thoughts on the mahrgell kill are that he was spewing town and had been universally townread (his last posts got me off of him). I made the point earlier that I thought mafia would try to buddy the first timer, and I think mahrgell picked up on that. I'm also town because I clicked through your 40 spoilers Lol Ok you prob deserve some cred for that. Actually looking over your posts again you do make pretty decent points. Let me ride this train of thought a bit longer though, I'm having fun with it. ![[image loading]](https://media2.giphy.com/media/PaaauvsPQ10I0/200.gif#20) | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
There are a couple of instances of Rels looking at past games to get some meta reads on people which I suppose scum could do just as easily as town, but I'd put more weight on it being a towny thing to do. On November 03 2016 22:19 Rels wrote: Thanks. So that's the turbo game you and Calix were talking about at the point in the thread I'm at. Doesn't seem super impressive to me, only short posts and not a lot of fighting. Apparently your tone was aggressive and that is off-meta for you ? But you didn't really fight with other people. He also does this with gell and Darth later on. This was the first thing that catches my eye. On November 03 2016 22:51 Rels wrote: K I'm almost caught up but I also have to go for a few hours, afternoon is full of meetings. My reads atm: TOWN Foreman NU ExO Calix TT Skynx mahrgell DF SCUM See you soon! Was no mention of Foreman prior to this, so it's really odd he's Rel's top town here. I like this post, it's not really in scum!Rels' interest to make a post like this because he could pretty easily try to use Calix's strong scum play to keep throwing shade on her. This would be limiting his options if Rels is scum. On November 04 2016 06:23 Rels wrote: This is a townie post. Especially from someone with a strong scumgame who have 0 problem finding lynchbaits to push. He does something similar with marhgell On November 04 2016 07:31 Rels wrote: Wow OK that actually changes my read on you completely. I'm having a very hard time seeing you as scum for your first ever forum game, under some pressure since almost the beginning of the game, and still posting as much and as detailed as you do. I actually remember my first game, I come from RL mafia too and I was like that, super analytic about everything. A pleasure having you on this forum then (= Gonna quote the DF stuff Maybe I'm shit at reading but I think this is the first time Rels talks about his read on Foreman. On November 04 2016 20:54 Rels wrote: Skynx has a real shot at being scum too. A lot of his posts just look like fake to me, faking a "not-caring" tone. To compare with Foreman, it looks like Skynx is trying to appear not caring, while Foreman just doesn't care and wite stuff that he thinks. And I know weaker scums tend to do that after losing scumgames 'cause it's easier to play. And I know Skynx is not a very good scum player. These posts make me think that: + Show Spoiler + On November 03 2016 04:12 Skynx wrote: Man you guys are way too fun to read On November 03 2016 04:50 Skynx wrote: None of what happened so far is AI guys please... On November 03 2016 04:54 Skynx wrote: What is the point of spamming bunch of stuff that doesn't have anything to do with anything other than increasing postcount for people that are not here yet? On November 03 2016 04:58 Skynx wrote: Add something constructive when i find opportunity to do so. Like I'm doing now, stopping you guys go overboard with surjective NAI stuff cuz it really means absolutely nothing what you guys accuse each other for in past few pages  On November 03 2016 05:10 Skynx wrote: I mean I really dunno what to add here, its just NAI guys. Can we talk about like flowers and butterflies? On November 03 2016 05:15 Skynx wrote: Well, Calix is the one to make me explain how NAI stuff is NAI you can blame him for that if you really want to. I'm just here to drink milk and fuck bitches. On November 03 2016 22:17 Skynx wrote: I only like darth so far for making sense with his posts while keeping it short and meaningfull. I hate TT's reads in p15 or something they are literally the worst. He deserves a vote but I'll touch on this a bit later on. Exo's reads are quite bad aswell but less bad than TT. Haven't read Rels yet. Rest is bad and should feel bad for being able to spam this much and actually say nothing of worth. I'm gona vote for a stfu lynch on the biggest filter for now before i actually get a time to read in detail cuz this shit is unacceptable. Actually, his only real content were in his 2 huge wall posts. I disagree with pretty much everything he's said in it. A lot of it is just logical mistakes that are not scum tells. I didn't feel like there was much to note about Rels' progression on Exo, though it still felt kinda natural to me. By and large I still kinda like Rels's posting this game, he has some pretty good townreads and reasoning for them. I kinda like his progression in general, and think he's made a few reads that would limit his options unnecessarily if he is scum. His lack of explanation about his Foreman TR is what worries me, especially since Rels otherwise seems to be being fairly careful with his townreads. | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
On November 06 2016 10:46 Calix wrote: We cannot make proper progress until the three main suspects pop online. I'm getting bored of waiting. This so much. I feel like we have a pretty strong towncircle here with you, NU, and myself. If we can get one more really solid townread on someone then this game should be basically over. | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
On November 03 2016 22:57 Tictock wrote: I'm ignoring exactly 100% of these pushes between you and Calix. Honestly you two seem to get so emotionally worked up over how you read each other I have a hard time taking any of it seriously. ... You guys might actually make an amazing scum team. Someone remind me to tinfoil the shit out of a NU/Calix scumteam if we get much further into this without a mafia lynch. | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
It's quite possible my WIFOM about Skynx is just that and this is actually as easy as Foreman/Skynx. It's really tempting to think that because of their lack of, well anything today. Also I'd like to take a second and give some mad props to Cake's hosting. Not only has she been including links to everyone's vote and unvote in each VC but now reminding people about DST changes? ![[image loading]](https://media2.giphy.com/media/3o7TKrugYn6cXQAMTK/200w.gif#11) | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
On November 07 2016 07:43 Skynx wrote: 3) meta cuz I just left a scumgame with exo as partner and it was totally different. Why is this the first time you are mentioning this? I would expect that kind of experience to be really enlightening with your read on Exo, and would mean you actually have some things that stand out to you about his play. When I skim your filter though I can't really find any insight in your mentions of Exo, just that he is somehow clearly town to you. I'm also not terribly impressed with your case on NU. Most of the things you are calling him out for are things that you yourself have done this game, like trolling. Dropping votes with little reason is also not really very AI when you are pulling them out of context like you are doing. Town make weird votes and change them more often than scum tend to. Also, this... Key thing here is reason and logic. I hate hate players who defy all logic (*cough* Moosy *cough*) and love players who take it as a pillar of townplay (aka Koshi). scares the hell out of me. | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
I feel like I could go either way with Skynx's emo posts, but his actual content doesn't inspire much confidence. The case on NU looks more like he just grabbed posts out of NU's filter and threw in comments than a real read. The lack of any other reads is worrysome, no real explanation on why he thinks I'm town now (I think that's the case) or why he doesn't like Darth. There is also irony there since half his case on NU is that NU is dropping reads without giving reasons. The only thing that is giving me pause atm, and it's more WIFOM thinking so take it with some salt, is that if the scumteam is Skynx/Foreman then why the hell is this game still going? | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
On November 05 2016 02:58 Skynx wrote: /unignore Calix has reasons to vote Exo, unlike somebody. /ignore These don't really feel like they come from scum imo, feels more like tunneled town. My dilemma here is that I don't really have good reasons to think Skynx might be town just a few things that make me question if he is actually mafia. I also think a Skynx/Foreman team is pretty possible given their interactions. So, I think I'm just going to leave my vote on Foreman. | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
On November 08 2016 01:47 Calix wrote: Huh? Skynx is still active and none of the mafia have died yet. Why would the game have stopped? Yea I know, but they aren't in a very winnable position given we still have potential blue actions to help. It's also very possible it is them and they are just holding out to see if we get cold feet. So yea, it's WIFOM I maybe shouldn't bring to the table. | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
On November 04 2016 03:26 Foreman wrote: Please explain. I'm rarely "most town" on sites I play regularly, so this feels off with no explanation. Pretty unusual for scum to question people's townreads on them, especially since this would be Foreman's first scum game here. On November 04 2016 06:02 Foreman wrote: His wall posts don't line up with the mindset of somebody that considers themselves low hanging fruit. This is a decent point to make about Skynx. There was a couple other things too, but they are more or less in the same vein. So, ##Unvote ##Vote: Skynx Although now I'm getting a bit paranoid that we are just going after bad townies all game long. | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
On November 08 2016 02:14 NeverUnlucky wrote: Why do you think Foreman is scum? I don't think you've explained it before (if you haz sowwy). Mostly PoE + his absence from the game. | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
On November 08 2016 02:14 Calix wrote: I don't understand how you can possibly have doubts about Skynx after his re-entrance. There is no overarching town motivation behind his posts and his meta doesn't match up to his town meta. Also don't see how being passive-aggressive is a town tell. You literally do not need to see if every single post comes from town/ mafia. You only need one post where someone makes a post that makes no sense for town to make and it's game over. Case closed. Alignment solved. I don't actually give a shit which one dies today. I just can't believe that you think Skynx has a chance at being town. I'm not sure why I'm suddenly getting cold feet, I still feel like I have decent reasons to TR everyone but them so I'm probably just being paranoid. Stampeding through their filters right before lynch is prob not helping me much there either. | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
On November 08 2016 02:33 Calix wrote: lol TT. You are the reason that this game isn't going to end prematurely, let me just say that now  I'm almost hoping that one of these two wankers is town. Then the game will actually become interesting again and there'll be more discussion. If there is a chance than one of them is town in your mind, shouldn't we lynch Foreman since Skynx is at least posting content? albeit not much | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
Plenty of time for paranoia later. | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
On November 08 2016 02:51 NeverUnlucky wrote: The sad part is that Skynx probably asked the hosts to concede but because Foreman is AWOL, the hosts could not end the game. This is pretty possible. I'm also confused why Skynx is throwing away his vote on Darth instead of saving himself by voting Foreman, or following is own reads and voting NU. | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
On November 08 2016 02:56 Skynx wrote: Shennanie on Calix guys? Uhh, no? | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
GG guys, well done town. And once again mad props to Cake's hosting. | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
You should try and work on your OMGUS reactions to people casing you, I feel like all your reads got tainted by that and made it really hard to see any thought going on besides that. I'd also strongly encourage you to take Calix's advice next time. Spend less time defending yourself and more time trying to read people. You did a decent job trying to spew yourself town at EoD but at that point with no content in your filter to back that up it's hard to put stock in your posts besides playing to stay alive. Just my 2 cents, though I have to be honest I think I was pretty tunneled on you at that point and just wanted to see your flip. | ||
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