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Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
November 04 2016 17:26 GMT
#921
On November 05 2016 02:23 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2016 01:56 Skynx wrote:
On November 05 2016 01:53 Calix wrote:
On November 05 2016 01:49 Skynx wrote:
On November 05 2016 01:43 Calix wrote:
No. It's not my job to look for cases for you. That's on you. Town should be reaching out to the town, not vice versa.

With your reads, how is 'retaliation' a town tell?

I don't relate to your DF read.

How is an over-aggressive tone scum-indicative? What examples do you have?

ok.

Retaliation is a town tell because he's getting attacked non-stop for bad reasons. Check vivax and me from Dota mafia, which I know you have been following which is completely the opposite.

I dunno who you're accounting to with the over-aggressive tone, Foreman? I'm not scum reading him, I got no material i specified I didn't read him much.



Yes I have been following it. I still don't follow your point though.

If you think ExO is town then what are your thoughts on how the trains have formed?

In terms of your cases, I'm really not convinced by your NU case and I didn't find anything damning when I filtered TT earlier unless I go full tinfoil and I didn't like DF's case.

Yeah, Foreman. If something is 'over-aggressive' then does that not imply that it's scummy?

I'll build up on both TT and NU cases in the night to convince more people i guess. I feel like Exo lynch will only strengthen my point.


Fair warning, I'm prob gunna call TMI on this if Exo ends up flipping town.


While I find Skynx's behaviour around ExO to be strange, I feel like you are going for the obvious options with your reads so far at the expense of other options.

AKA I think I'm making acquaintance with Tunneltock.
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
November 04 2016 17:26 GMT
#922
On November 05 2016 02:24 NeverUnlucky wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote Skynx

This is the 4th blank vote he casted in this thread with absolutely no case behind it.

You are doing nothing but exposing yourself more and more to my arguments.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 04 2016 17:27 GMT
#923
On November 05 2016 02:25 Skynx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2016 02:23 Rels wrote:
Skynx:
On November 05 2016 01:59 Rels wrote:
On November 05 2016 01:35 Skynx wrote:
Exo's retaliation is a towntell from my perspective as he's been sr'd by almost everyone in the game, some of which for very bad reasons or no reasons at all. Its his right to retaliate. However not much arguments otherise, he's just been defending all game, I've been in this situation and can sympathise.

Why is it a towntell ? If you think he would do that as town, what would he do as scum ?


Blatant ridiculing of pushes cuz they are weak as fuck. He cannot instantly push them back as scum cuz he already has the information and he doesn't know yet how those people gona turn out later on so he cannot aford to take heat on himself early on.

That doesn't make sense. How he was extremely defensive for nothing and attacking his pushers instead of their arguments is why he got heat in the first place.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
November 04 2016 17:27 GMT
#924
On November 05 2016 02:05 ExO_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2016 01:49 Rels wrote:
On November 05 2016 01:19 ExO_ wrote:
I just woke up, and I have to run errands. I'll probably be back before EoD but I can't swear to it. What I will say is this:

I came into the thread just saying whatever I felt like. It's how I always play town. I don't try to carefully construct my posts I just say whats on my mind. I did a lot of OMGUS. When I finally sat and calmly looked at the game, I put a little suspicion on DF/Skynx because of short filter, and rels for a similar reason. But I've been attacked for switching views, for not tunneling, for tunneling at the start, and a whole variety of other things.

I don't know exactly how I could defend myself at this point. I've done my best to make you realize that I'm town. But a LOT of people are tunneling on me. I'm not sure what else I'd have to do to prove I'm town.

The idea that I had a scum slip is a complete joke. If I die today:

Lynch TT/Rels. Both are experienced townies yet are moronically pushing this lynch. Especially TT. After that I would look for people who coasted and just hopped on the wagon day 1.

Do not Lynch Calix: Calix is the most most obviously confirmed town here. I want to say NU as well because of filter length, but I'm not sure.


Anywho I'm running some errands now like I said. I should be back before EoD but my motivation to play this game is basically out the window.

This is so bad. This martiring won't get you through this lynch. You're saying you can't defend yourself 'cause you're attacked whatever thing you chose to do; well, you could defend yourself by pointing out WHY other people are scummy.
In this very post you admit that your OMGUS was bad; that after re evaluating you think one of DF / Skynx / Rels are probably scum; THEN you go on "lynch TT and Rels 'cause they should know better than pushing me" which is the FUCKING DEFINITION OF OMGUS.

The last time you've stated reasons for your reads was your NU read yesterday. Since then it has been either OMGUS or filter size.


Perhaps you should consider that it's very difficult to make accurate reads right now when everyone is scum reading me and on my wagon. It's hard for me to not be OMGUS when everyone is voting for me, is it not?

That said, I think both you and TT are pushing me here past what makes sense. Especially the way TT came back into the thread last night and ignored the progression of my posts to make a point. He strung a bunch of posts together that were very far apart to make me look horrible.

either way I think at least one of you two should know better. Which makes me think at least one of you is scum. This isn't OMGUS, this is my honest thoughts.


There was no progression to talk about. You just spouted out scumreads.
I can take that responsibility.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
November 04 2016 17:27 GMT
#925
On November 05 2016 02:25 Skynx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2016 02:23 Rels wrote:
Skynx:
On November 05 2016 01:59 Rels wrote:
On November 05 2016 01:35 Skynx wrote:
Exo's retaliation is a towntell from my perspective as he's been sr'd by almost everyone in the game, some of which for very bad reasons or no reasons at all. Its his right to retaliate. However not much arguments otherise, he's just been defending all game, I've been in this situation and can sympathise.

Why is it a towntell ? If you think he would do that as town, what would he do as scum ?


Blatant ridiculing of pushes cuz they are weak as fuck. He cannot instantly push them back as scum cuz he already has the information and he doesn't know yet how those people gona turn out later on so he cannot aford to take heat on himself early on.


But he already had a lot of heat on him early on and his response was to disappear before retracting the read that led to such suspicion in the first place...?
ExO_
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States2316 Posts
November 04 2016 17:27 GMT
#926
God I hope I can make it back home before EoD. In short do NOT let the people hard pushing me saying it reveals nothing about alignment if I flip town, get away with it.

They're covering their asses now because they know im about to flip town.
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
November 04 2016 17:29 GMT
#927
On November 05 2016 02:27 ExO_ wrote:
God I hope I can make it back home before EoD. In short do NOT let the people hard pushing me saying it reveals nothing about alignment if I flip town, get away with it.

They're covering their asses now because they know im about to flip town.

I genuinely think this is a very town response...

... which reinforces my Skynx scum-read.

CFD Skynx imo.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
November 04 2016 17:29 GMT
#928
On November 05 2016 02:27 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2016 02:25 Skynx wrote:
On November 05 2016 02:23 Rels wrote:
Skynx:
On November 05 2016 01:59 Rels wrote:
On November 05 2016 01:35 Skynx wrote:
Exo's retaliation is a towntell from my perspective as he's been sr'd by almost everyone in the game, some of which for very bad reasons or no reasons at all. Its his right to retaliate. However not much arguments otherise, he's just been defending all game, I've been in this situation and can sympathise.

Why is it a towntell ? If you think he would do that as town, what would he do as scum ?


Blatant ridiculing of pushes cuz they are weak as fuck. He cannot instantly push them back as scum cuz he already has the information and he doesn't know yet how those people gona turn out later on so he cannot aford to take heat on himself early on.

That doesn't make sense. How he was extremely defensive for nothing and attacking his pushers instead of their arguments is why he got heat in the first place.

Not for nothing. Pushes were bad so he counter pushed. That makes sense.

He cannot do that as scum less than an hour into the game cuz those ppl can turn out townie and that would look bad on him.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
November 04 2016 17:30 GMT
#929
On November 05 2016 02:29 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2016 02:27 ExO_ wrote:
God I hope I can make it back home before EoD. In short do NOT let the people hard pushing me saying it reveals nothing about alignment if I flip town, get away with it.

They're covering their asses now because they know im about to flip town.

I genuinely think this is a very town response...

... which reinforces my Skynx scum-read.

CFD Skynx imo.


I actually might do this.
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
November 04 2016 17:31 GMT
#930
On November 05 2016 02:30 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2016 02:29 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On November 05 2016 02:27 ExO_ wrote:
God I hope I can make it back home before EoD. In short do NOT let the people hard pushing me saying it reveals nothing about alignment if I flip town, get away with it.

They're covering their asses now because they know im about to flip town.

I genuinely think this is a very town response...

... which reinforces my Skynx scum-read.

CFD Skynx imo.


I actually might do this.

We need to in order to complete the prophecy of the CFD.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
ExO_
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States2316 Posts
November 04 2016 17:31 GMT
#931
dont calix. skynx is town, trust him. you and him are the most town
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 04 2016 17:32 GMT
#932
On November 05 2016 02:29 Skynx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2016 02:27 Rels wrote:
On November 05 2016 02:25 Skynx wrote:
On November 05 2016 02:23 Rels wrote:
Skynx:
On November 05 2016 01:59 Rels wrote:
On November 05 2016 01:35 Skynx wrote:
Exo's retaliation is a towntell from my perspective as he's been sr'd by almost everyone in the game, some of which for very bad reasons or no reasons at all. Its his right to retaliate. However not much arguments otherise, he's just been defending all game, I've been in this situation and can sympathise.

Why is it a towntell ? If you think he would do that as town, what would he do as scum ?


Blatant ridiculing of pushes cuz they are weak as fuck. He cannot instantly push them back as scum cuz he already has the information and he doesn't know yet how those people gona turn out later on so he cannot aford to take heat on himself early on.

That doesn't make sense. How he was extremely defensive for nothing and attacking his pushers instead of their arguments is why he got heat in the first place.

Not for nothing. Pushes were bad so he counter pushed. That makes sense.

He cannot do that as scum less than an hour into the game cuz those ppl can turn out townie and that would look bad on him.

You're saying these posts are townie ?
On November 03 2016 03:11 ExO_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2016 03:08 Calix wrote:
On November 03 2016 03:06 ExO_ wrote:
On November 03 2016 03:04 Calix wrote:
NU's boring. Nothing new to see there.

ExO, should I be asking why you're not 'largely communicating in gifs'? Don't get me wrong, I'm glad you're not, but I'm curious as to what made you change your mind.


[image loading]


So if you ARE mainly communicating in gifs then why claim a role first thing before doing that? Seems illogical for town to do.


You think it's illogical for me to immediate claim VT before posting a gif?

Give me a break. If anything your attempt to get me to revert to gif posting only and now trying to throw shade on me is indicative of your scum alignment

On November 03 2016 03:15 ExO_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2016 03:12 Calix wrote:
On November 03 2016 03:11 ExO_ wrote:
On November 03 2016 03:08 Calix wrote:
On November 03 2016 03:06 ExO_ wrote:
On November 03 2016 03:04 Calix wrote:
NU's boring. Nothing new to see there.

ExO, should I be asking why you're not 'largely communicating in gifs'? Don't get me wrong, I'm glad you're not, but I'm curious as to what made you change your mind.


[image loading]


So if you ARE mainly communicating in gifs then why claim a role first thing before doing that? Seems illogical for town to do.


You think it's illogical for me to immediate claim VT before posting a gif?

Give me a break. If anything your attempt to get me to revert to gif posting only and now trying to throw shade on me is indicative of your scum alignment


Please point me to where I 'attempted to get you to revert to gif posting only' if you'd be so kind. You'll note that I specifically said 'I'm glad you are not posting in gifs' (which you then responded to...with a gif...instead of a response)

And yes, it's illogical for town to claim a role and then post a gif in lieu of a coherent response.


If you were actually happy I wasn't posting gifs, why would you bring up the fact that I said I would post primarily gifs? I think any reasonable person realizes that's much more likely to get me to post gifs, than to offer an explanation that will ultimately be irrelevant to the game.

You brought it up in the hopes that I would stick to my word and posts only gifs, instead of helping town. You are scum

##vote Calix

On November 03 2016 03:25 ExO_ wrote:
What about my response is overly defensive? I'm pointing out that essentially reminding me I promised to "post gifs" Isn't going to help town in any way. Furthermore, its not something a reasonable person would think would help town.

Assuming for a second I took the time to answer Calix's question about why I didn't just post gifs: How does that help town? My explanation doesn't help town at all, nor would it be expected to help town. However a reasonably expectable reaction to Calix's question would be for me to start posting gifs again.

So long story short, I think Calix posted that in the hopes I would post gifs more and not help town

Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
November 04 2016 17:32 GMT
#933
I can't actually believe whats going on. Calix you are getting played.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
November 04 2016 17:33 GMT
#934
On November 05 2016 02:31 ExO_ wrote:
dont calix. skynx is town, trust him. you and him are the most town

And why is Skynx town other than him not voting for you?

Why do you accept being lynched over anyone else? You are confirmed town to yourself. Skynx is not confirmed town to you.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
November 04 2016 17:33 GMT
#935
On November 05 2016 02:31 ExO_ wrote:
dont calix. skynx is town, trust him. you and him are the most town


Wait, I thought you said he had to be looked into because of his short filter? What changed?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 04 2016 17:33 GMT
#936
On November 05 2016 02:31 ExO_ wrote:
dont calix. skynx is town, trust him. you and him are the most town

Why ?
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
November 04 2016 17:33 GMT
#937
On November 05 2016 02:32 Skynx wrote:
I can't actually believe whats going on. Calix you are getting played.

ATE.

One of the pillars of your scum play.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
November 04 2016 17:34 GMT
#938
On November 05 2016 02:29 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2016 02:27 ExO_ wrote:
God I hope I can make it back home before EoD. In short do NOT let the people hard pushing me saying it reveals nothing about alignment if I flip town, get away with it.

They're covering their asses now because they know im about to flip town.

I genuinely think this is a very town response...

... which reinforces my Skynx scum-read.

CFD Skynx imo.


I disagree. Exo is still the best lynch.

Every single one of his posts has just been him trying to survive the day, this one included.
I can take that responsibility.
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
November 04 2016 17:35 GMT
#939
On November 05 2016 02:34 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2016 02:29 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On November 05 2016 02:27 ExO_ wrote:
God I hope I can make it back home before EoD. In short do NOT let the people hard pushing me saying it reveals nothing about alignment if I flip town, get away with it.

They're covering their asses now because they know im about to flip town.

I genuinely think this is a very town response...

... which reinforces my Skynx scum-read.

CFD Skynx imo.


I disagree. Exo is still the best lynch.

Every single one of his posts has just been him trying to survive the day, this one included.

That's not scum AI. I would not want to be lynched either if I had this many votes.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
November 04 2016 17:36 GMT
#940
TT, your thoughts on Skynx' approach to ExO then...?
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