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On November 05 2016 02:38 NeverUnlucky wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2016 02:37 Tictock wrote:On November 05 2016 02:35 NeverUnlucky wrote:On November 05 2016 02:34 Tictock wrote:On November 05 2016 02:29 NeverUnlucky wrote:On November 05 2016 02:27 ExO_ wrote:
God I hope I can make it back home before EoD. In short do NOT let the people hard pushing me saying it reveals nothing about alignment if I flip town, get away with it.
They're covering their asses now because they know im about to flip town. I genuinely think this is a very town response... ... which reinforces my Skynx scum-read. CFD Skynx imo. I disagree. Exo is still the best lynch. Every single one of his posts has just been him trying to survive the day, this one included. That's not scum AI. I would not want to be lynched either if I had this many votes. So then it's NAI. Why would you townread him then? His tone feels right.
That's a pretty bad reason when he has done nothing productive all day.
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On November 05 2016 02:42 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2016 02:36 Calix wrote:
TT, your thoughts on Skynx' approach to ExO then...? I want an answer BEFORE the flip, thanks.
I dunno it's weird he's so sure Exo is town.
Could be that he is scum either with Exo or independent of Exo imo.
I'd still preffer to lynch Exo and sort it out later.
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This EoD should give us some nice info.
I'm tempted to compare how I reacted to being mislynched last game to how Exo is going about this EoD. Not sure that's a fair comparison though.
Really I just can't see town modivation in any of his play and that's not changing with all the appeal to emotion he's dropping now.
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On November 05 2016 02:57 ExO_ wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2016 02:56 Rels wrote:On November 05 2016 02:53 ExO_ wrote:On November 05 2016 02:50 Calix wrote:On November 05 2016 02:47 ExO_ wrote:
Calix/Skynx any questions you have please ask me, before I flip as town please ask now. I will try my best to answer quickly. I'm 100% sure you two are town and the people like NU trying to discredit Skynx are almost certainly going to be scum Yeah, can you please summarise/ conclude your reads in one post? I think that would help people see what your reads were. You can even just cobble your previous posts into one since you have 10 minutes left. This is something I'm not very good at. a lot of my reads I base on what I think, and researching specific examples is hard. I think out of TT/Rels/NU there is at least 1 scum. Maybe 2. TT or rels should have known better than to let this lynch go down like it did, and instead both pushed it hard. I would look at them heavily. NU's game has just been really bad all around, hard to say if its because he's bad or because he's scum though. I didn't like the way mahgrell played, and the way he's afk now but I think he's something to look at after the top 3. DF is townier than mahgrell. Foreman is angry town I'm tired of seeing this. I only started pushing you as my main scumread a few hours ago. You even scumread me for not having a strong scumread on you yesterday. That makes another thing that is not consistent with your reads actually. I'm having doubts but I think you'll flip scum. I don't think i'll shennannie. again, distancing himself just like TT. Look very very very closely att TT/rels. they're both experienced and they both should've known this was a bad lynch.
Nah this was a great lynch regardless of your flip at this point.
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Well that's disappointing.
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I am respectfully take off my tinfoil regarding Calix.
So with Exo flipping town, and me being the only other wagon that had much steam I can safely say that mafia was under very little pressure D1.
I'm kinda considering Skynx/Foreman right now, but will come back to this a bit later with fresh eyes.
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On November 05 2016 04:46 Calix wrote:@Tictock He also scum-reads ExO because 'he didn't want to draw attention to himself by only posting gifs' What's the issue here? He somehow thinks that ExO overreacting to my question, being overly defensive and lashing out at me is something that...will NOT get ExO a shit-load of attention...? He has to think that. Why? - He scum-reads ExO. - He claims that scum don't like attention and that ExO didn't post gifs because he didn't want attention. - Therefore he has to think that ExO's reaction was intentionally designed to not get attention onto ExO. Here's what I found: Show nested quote +On November 04 2016 06:09 Tictock wrote:On November 04 2016 06:01 Calix wrote:
But how hard is it to just say something like "oh I was joking" or "I wanted to play the game properly" or something? Maybe I'm just assuming that ExO is as amazingly intelligent as I am, but that doesn't seem like a stretch for scum.
His later behaviour is more concerning to me. I don't really like it and the point which I found the most interesting from him is something that you claim was a joke. (I think) Thats actually kinda my point, town!Exo could have said the same things, or started posting gifs to joke around. What did we see? Him getting butthurt that you called him out for not posting Gifs and attacking you for it. How does anyone think that attacking me and getting salty are things that won't draw attention to ExO?
My god you are digging so deep into this, and I thought we went over it already.
Exo's scumread on you was pure reaction, even when I thought he was scum I thought that. I never thought it was some grandly designed post, it was basically just like the rest of Exo's reads which were just "Fuck you for scum reading me".
I really don't get why this argument keeps coming up, there was a very clear difference between Exo's early posting and Skynx's early posting. I'm not going to use the same metric/logic/whatever when I feel like there is a clear difference in the posting.
If you are going to keep up this line of thinking you should actually relook at their opening posts and tell me why I should have blindly used the same logic with both of them. Then you should explain why I, as scum, would even bother suggesting skynx might be town for drawing attn to himself rather than just let him draw that attn and push him along with Exo... which I did anyways.
The TLDR of this is Exo's posts looked like he was just reacting and trying to step up to play seriously after you questioned him, Skynx responded to pressure with more bullshitting. Not the same posting, not using the same logic, hence my read was different.
Please scum read me for better reasons, talking about the same point over and over gets old.
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Sorry to disappoint but I'm just reading to keep up atm, wont be rereading till later.
@ NU
Discussing reads at night is fine, though I'll admit sometimes it's tempting to wait for Day phase for the extra flip and thus info.
If you are of the line of thought that Scum are going to choose their NK target based on who is getting too close to the solution at night... Meh. That's actually not usually how scum pick NKs.
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On November 05 2016 20:28 mahrgell wrote:Okay, finished reading up on DF: Going to bed, I was sure this would result in a scumlean for me, but looking at his filter this seems from some kind of defence reflex when accused with weird arguments. Yes, I'm still salty when he made up shit like me "using OMGIS" after I responded to a very clear question.... But overall his filter reads really good and I can follow his line of thought. But in the evening I actually marked myself one post of him, which stuck out. Like probably the main post I got bad vibes from him. It was this one. Reading it from the filter doesn't make it special, but reading it fom thread progression is different. What really annoyed me there was, that at the time the post was made, the convo was basically all on Exo. I felt I had defended all of DF's attacks on me quite well and those issues should be solved. Yet he comes in, during the Exo convo, and feels like throwing in shit at me again and try to distract the exo train. If Exo_ would have flipped red, I think I would have went after DF for this post alone. But Exo_ was green. I simply can't see a mafia doing that post at that time in the thread, when they should be jerking off in mafia QT how great this mislynch is doing. I guess if it spawns a LynchTownExo vs LynchTownMahrgell debate this could be somehow still okay for Mafia, but... why risk votes scattering and who knows what happens next? At this time the EoD was still rather far away. So DF townlean for me now.
This strikes me as incredibly towny. It's a really roundabout way to come up with a townread on Darth and is the type of thinking that is almost exclusive to town.
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Ok at this point I don't think these people can ever be mafia this game:
Calix
NU
Marhgell
Rels + Show Spoiler +Calix's case on him actually isn't terrible, and I should prob reread Rels but I'm unlikely to do it this phase. My gut read on him is pretty strongly town, I followed his read progression pretty well and all his thoughts feel genuine to me.
A little less sure on Darth, but I feel l can follow his reads and thoughts really well.
Scum:
Skynx: What stands out in my mind is how Skynx had such a strong townread on Exo that it was a large part of his case on me. However I don't recall Skynx ever really explaining this read past the fact that he thought Exo's defense was "his right" or w/e. I said it EoD, and it still feels like TMI to me now.
Gell's case on Skynx is also really good, and is pretty damn sheepable imo.
Foreman: Overall just unimpressive. Spent a long time attacking Calix for "try-harding" without looking at anyone else, transitioned to townreading Calix and scum reading gell in a really odd way. I liked a couple of posts but he dropped off really hard.
So it's kinda PoE at this point that leads me to think Skynx/Foreman is the scumteam, but there are some good reasons, and a good case, why Skynx should prob be the lynch tomorrow.
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I just started a new job this week so my time to play has been slipping away from me more and more. I'm going to try and read Darth's filter and reread EoD before I have to head in today, but may not finish.
If I get killed tonight that last post is good enough for a last will.
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Humm reading Darth's filter I kinda like him less.
On November 03 2016 05:30 darthfoley wrote:
Foreman completely writing off Calix basically because of one push is helping town at all. Seems like uber tunneling that never actually helps town. Don't see any post so far that screams scum SO hard that I wouldn't entertain the possibility that my read on someone was wrong. Seems a bit scummy to me, especially D1. I agree with Skynx that the votes so far have been really dumb and useless drama
Calix is a slight town read to me currently. I agreed that Skynx's posts were useless until he posted about the votes.
This early read on Foreman is really odd, just kinda rambly and the two bolded lines both contradict each other and add nothing.
I also noticed that Darth made posts all day long about Exo being scum.
On November 03 2016 09:04 darthfoley wrote:
I also find it weird that
1. ExO came in
2. Got scum read and pressured
3. Weak case on Calix
4. Other people came in, namely NU, and changed the conversation
5. ExO peaced out and the current 1v1s are NU vs. Calix, Foreman vs. mahrgell
6. People seemingly forget about ExO
On November 03 2016 12:30 darthfoley wrote:
ExO's filter is also relatively assheeks. I need Rels in the building
On November 04 2016 03:01 darthfoley wrote:
If ExO continues to be this underwhelming and inactivate I think I'd be okay with an exO lynch
But only joins the wagon after making a big post about why he doesn't think I'm scum anymore and that Exo is the better lynch. Kinda feels like he just kept this scumread on Exo in his back pocket, bringing it out when useful but not committing to it till it became clear that Exo was going to be lynched.
Unfortunately I didn't find anything that really makes me think he is either town or scum. Just this stuff that stands out as kinda weird to me.
Moving Darth to a solid null read.
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Humm not the NK I was expecting, probably a medic dodge or summin.
Is it weird that gell's death makes me less sure Skynx is scum?
Like in the case that Skynx is town then mafia killing someone pushing Skynx makes it look like he got killed for being on the right track. I've also been wondering if scum!Skynx would actually stick his neck out so far with the whole TRing Exo thing.
Idk, I'm deep in WIFOM territory on this one. Take it as you will.
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On November 06 2016 03:41 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2016 08:01 Foreman wrote:On November 04 2016 07:45 Calix wrote:On November 04 2016 07:38 Foreman wrote:On November 04 2016 06:31 Calix wrote:On November 04 2016 06:23 Foreman wrote:On November 04 2016 06:12 Calix wrote:On November 04 2016 06:09 Tictock wrote:On November 04 2016 06:01 Calix wrote:
But how hard is it to just say something like "oh I was joking" or "I wanted to play the game properly" or something? Maybe I'm just assuming that ExO is as amazingly intelligent as I am, but that doesn't seem like a stretch for scum.
His later behaviour is more concerning to me. I don't really like it and the point which I found the most interesting from him is something that you claim was a joke. (I think) Thats actually kinda my point, town!Exo could have said the same things, or started posting gifs to joke around. What did we see? Him getting butthurt that you called him out for not posting Gifs and attacking you for it. I feel like this is going around in circles. It's clear that you think that's a scummy reaction from ExO and I disagree. I think we should move on since this thread is blowing up. Thoughts on Foreman? I'm still thinking this could be TvT and thus I find him sitting in the background to be conspicuous. I go a few hours without posting because I have shit to do and I'm sitting in the background? Lulz. Well in my opinion, you weren't posting a lot. Fine by itself. But you were just talking about stuff which wasn't related to the main discussion at hand until recently. That stood out to me especially because I think it's two townies fighting. Thus someone ignoring it looks weird and like they don't want to take a side in it since either of them being lynched helps scum. So yes, my logic is pretty good, I'd say. I'd say you're logic is pretty trash because there are dynamics between those two that I'm not familiar with so me jumping in the middle would only muddy the waters. "not familiar with" If they were discussing a meta reference then I would believe this. However they weren't. Everything that was discussed with ExO/ TT was sourced from the game thread. Why would the dynamics be unfamiliar to you? Regardless of your response, what DID you make of ExO/ TT? You do realize that meta isn't the only thing that carries over between games, yes? Personality conflicts and how they resolve (or not) can also be alignment indicative if people are familiar with those clashing. If I were to get in the middle of TT/ExO, it could have interfered with the ability to read them. I prefer to wait until things resolve and then chime in to avoid that. That said, I am likiing ExO for town. I don't understand why TT has votes, it's something I'll need to read up on later tonight. 17% battery is telling me nou. So here's the quote chain where I call him out for not getting involved in TT vs ExO (so you can see his reasoning) Here you can see him say "I am liking ExO for town" So he goes on and says "I don't think TT would post " Rels what happened to you? Your play the past few games is like your heart just isn't in it anymore" if he was scum" (I don't understand how this makes TT town tbh lol but whatever) Show nested quote +On November 04 2016 08:48 Foreman wrote:On November 04 2016 08:42 ExO_ wrote:
NU is actively borrowing his reads for rels in an attempt to push me, with Marhgwell being 3rd on a wagon.
Marhgwell is scum, and probably NU I disagree with both of your scumreads. Mahrgell's flip on me looked like an honest reassessment. If he was scum, he could have accused me of AtE and used my reach out as grounds to double down on me. NU... I don't get why you think he's scum. Here's the ONE post he had where he says that he disagrees with ExO. Show nested quote +On November 04 2016 08:53 Foreman wrote:On November 04 2016 08:51 ExO_ wrote:On November 04 2016 08:48 Foreman wrote:On November 04 2016 08:42 ExO_ wrote:
NU is actively borrowing his reads for rels in an attempt to push me, with Marhgwell being 3rd on a wagon.
Marhgwell is scum, and probably NU I disagree with both of your scumreads. Mahrgell's flip on me looked like an honest reassessment. If he was scum, he could have accused me of AtE and used my reach out as grounds to double down on me. NU... I don't get why you think he's scum. What do you think of Mahgrell voting me without giving his reasoning just now? What about NU literally taking the words out of rels mouth as a reason to push me, even though rels didn't see it as a reason to scum read me. foreman read the damn thread. And do something to help town. What did this post accomplish here? What did you disagreeing with me (in a bad way) accomplish? N O T H I N G My bad, let me be more productive, then. ##Vote: ExO_ And then he just leaves this salty-ass vote on ExO??? I will say that I completely missed the rest of the context though. Foreman goes on and says this: Show nested quote +On November 04 2016 08:58 Foreman wrote:On November 04 2016 08:55 ExO_ wrote:On November 04 2016 08:53 Foreman wrote:On November 04 2016 08:51 ExO_ wrote:On November 04 2016 08:48 Foreman wrote:On November 04 2016 08:42 ExO_ wrote:
NU is actively borrowing his reads for rels in an attempt to push me, with Marhgwell being 3rd on a wagon.
Marhgwell is scum, and probably NU I disagree with both of your scumreads. Mahrgell's flip on me looked like an honest reassessment. If he was scum, he could have accused me of AtE and used my reach out as grounds to double down on me. NU... I don't get why you think he's scum. What do you think of Mahgrell voting me without giving his reasoning just now? What about NU literally taking the words out of rels mouth as a reason to push me, even though rels didn't see it as a reason to scum read me. foreman read the damn thread. And do something to help town. What did this post accomplish here? What did you disagreeing with me (in a bad way) accomplish? N O T H I N G My bad, let me be more productive, then. ##Vote: ExO_ for what reason? Why do you think I'm scum? You're flat out lying about me and attempting to intimidate me, for one thing. For another, your scumreads are trash and consist of two people pushing you. Because y'know, the entire scum team is going to throw everything they have into a d1 mislynch. But this is actually even worse because his first comment is total bullshit and he doubles down on this awful reasoning which ExO correctly calls him out for. So make of that what you will.
This is a really good find, I missed him saying he like Exo as town.
His early attack on you also kinda suggested that he TR Exo early on.
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On November 06 2016 04:09 NeverUnlucky wrote:I've re-read EoD, and noticed a few things. While myself, DF, and Calix said that we were thinking/starting to think that ExO was town, only Rels and TT were still confident in ExO flipping scum. Tictock seemed to be tunneled. He did not bring new points to the table, just said that he was confident in the lynch. Rels, however, was bringing new arguments he did not share before EOD. It looked like he was making an impromptu case on ExO and that he was scavenging for reasons to still scum-read him to ignore the town tone ExO conveyed. Here are his posts: Show nested quote +On November 05 2016 01:49 Rels wrote:On November 05 2016 01:19 ExO_ wrote:
I just woke up, and I have to run errands. I'll probably be back before EoD but I can't swear to it. What I will say is this:
I came into the thread just saying whatever I felt like. It's how I always play town. I don't try to carefully construct my posts I just say whats on my mind. I did a lot of OMGUS. When I finally sat and calmly looked at the game, I put a little suspicion on DF/Skynx because of short filter, and rels for a similar reason. But I've been attacked for switching views, for not tunneling, for tunneling at the start, and a whole variety of other things.
I don't know exactly how I could defend myself at this point. I've done my best to make you realize that I'm town. But a LOT of people are tunneling on me. I'm not sure what else I'd have to do to prove I'm town.
The idea that I had a scum slip is a complete joke. If I die today:
Lynch TT/Rels. Both are experienced townies yet are moronically pushing this lynch. Especially TT. After that I would look for people who coasted and just hopped on the wagon day 1.
Do not Lynch Calix: Calix is the most most obviously confirmed town here. I want to say NU as well because of filter length, but I'm not sure.
Anywho I'm running some errands now like I said. I should be back before EoD but my motivation to play this game is basically out the window. This is so bad. This martiring won't get you through this lynch. You're saying you can't defend yourself 'cause you're attacked whatever thing you chose to do; well, you could defend yourself by pointing out WHY other people are scummy. In this very post you admit that your OMGUS was bad; that after re evaluating you think one of DF / Skynx / Rels are probably scum; THEN you go on "lynch TT and Rels 'cause they should know better than pushing me" which is the FUCKING DEFINITION OF OMGUS. The last time you've stated reasons for your reads was your NU read yesterday. Since then it has been either OMGUS or filter size. Show nested quote +On November 05 2016 01:53 Rels wrote:On November 05 2016 01:21 Skynx wrote:
I mean Exo did some bad stuff guys, as i quoted previous page.
However, can someone please give me some solid arguments that makes him objective scum like TT and NU?
Other than him being defensive all the time which is not even a reason anymore and makes sense as everyone is scumreading him. - has claimed that his aggression towards Calix at the beginning of the game was fake and just here to provoke reaction, which is something scum always say to explain themselves out of a bad push - has forgotten that he wanted to attack NU and foreman during his sleep and went to attack TT with no reasonning - has forgotten he liked Skynx and listed him as potential scum - has only posted to defend himself yesterday, when Calix intervened to give him some breathing room, he just disappeared instead of doing stuff - martyring, admitting the OMGUS was bad, then OMGUSING some more in the next paragraph (TT and Rels should know better!) Foreman was conveniently afk.
Humm, I kinda disagree. Town is pretty likely to push their thoughts to get the lynch they think is best. Maybe I'm just buddied here kus I agree with the points he was making here (some of them were stuf I pointed out as well).
I felt like Rel's progression on Exo was pretty reasonable, but I should filter him at somepoint to make sure my memory isn't totally off. I recall him having a good reason to TR Exo based on his claim, then later decided that wasn't enough to excuse his play.
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On November 06 2016 08:23 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2016 08:21 Tictock wrote:
Humm not the NK I was expecting, probably a medic dodge or summin.
Is it weird that gell's death makes me less sure Skynx is scum?
Like in the case that Skynx is town then mafia killing someone pushing Skynx makes it look like he got killed for being on the right track. I've also been wondering if scum!Skynx would actually stick his neck out so far with the whole TRing Exo thing.
Idk, I'm deep in WIFOM territory on this one. Take it as you will. I actually feel more convinced that Skynx is scum given the increasing body of evidence against him. It's hard to tell given that the three main suspects have yet to defend themselves. I liked DF's recent posts enough to take him out of my shit-list. While I'm here, can you expand more on your Rels read? If you have other priorities then don't bother but I feel like I am too focused on Rels > Skynx and you said that you town-read him so I'd love to hear what you think.
I actually don't like Darth's posts at all. It falls right in line with how I think scum would play if gell was killed to implicate Skynx.
Idk tbh I'm starting to feel like this game is pretty solved from my POV, I just need to make sure I can backup my TR of Rels a little better, but my PoE is down to Skynx/Darth/Foreman.
If skynx is scum his play has been just shit all game.
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On November 06 2016 08:33 NeverUnlucky wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2016 08:21 Tictock wrote:
Humm not the NK I was expecting, probably a medic dodge or summin.
Is it weird that gell's death makes me less sure Skynx is scum?
Like in the case that Skynx is town then mafia killing someone pushing Skynx makes it look like he got killed for being on the right track. I've also been wondering if scum!Skynx would actually stick his neck out so far with the whole TRing Exo thing.
Idk, I'm deep in WIFOM territory on this one. Take it as you will. Show nested quote +On November 06 2016 06:27 NeverUnlucky wrote:
You make some very good points.
You quoted one of Skynx's posts in which he states that he has mahr as top-town. It was already a very bad read re: mahr's Skynx case point #3, but it points to Skynx being mafia because mafia want to NK the towniest people in the thread.
I'm back to having a very strong feeling that Skynx is mafia.
Well you are on a similar level of tinfoil thinking to me atm.
I see your point, but in my experience mafia don't like to kill off people who are right because it adds to much creedence to their cases. Skynx's position was not great already, I really doubt he'd want to add to that by killing someone who cased him hard at night.
At least thats how my WIFOM thinking about this is going.
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I need to get some dinner, been at this since I got home from work.
I'm gunna make filtering Rels and Foreman my next priorities. Apparently I've lost interest in relooking at EoD, but maybe I'll force myself to do that.
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On November 06 2016 09:10 Calix wrote:Alright, so here's an idea that I just thought of. I was rereading my case on Foreman and noticed my comment about "I think ExO/ TT is TvT and Foreman is just sitting on the sidelines" Well I am back to thinking that it was a TvT, so it looks like I was spot-on with my comment about Foreman ignoring that shit-show. Want to know what he WAS doing? Arguing with Skynx. I don't know if that's relevant or not in terms of either of them being scum or whatever so I decided to quote those Skynx/ Foreman posts for reference. + Show Spoiler +On November 04 2016 00:04 Foreman wrote:
##Vote: Skynx
I've yet to see one productive post from this guy, and it's hard to remember that he's even in the game. On November 04 2016 01:18 Foreman wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2016 00:14 Skynx wrote:On November 04 2016 00:04 Foreman wrote:
##Vote: Skynx
I've yet to see one productive post from this guy, and it's hard to remember that he's even in the game. I'm here, still reading all the shitty posts unfortunately and that takes time. Also, congratz for exposing yourself for going after a low-hanging fruit. Seriously? Who calls themselves low hanging fruit? That's such a crap defense. I'd have expected reasons for his lack of activity and dismissive posts, but he's coming across as "expect this all the time". On November 04 2016 05:34 Foreman wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2016 04:01 darthfoley wrote:
Why'd you change your vote off of mahrgell to Skynx?
Mahrgell is still sus, I just realized that Skynx had been posting a bunch of nothingness and wanted him to step up his game. Then that icky post where he calls himself low hanging fruit made my vote stickier. On November 04 2016 05:36 Foreman wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2016 04:13 Skynx wrote:On November 04 2016 01:18 Foreman wrote:On November 04 2016 00:14 Skynx wrote:On November 04 2016 00:04 Foreman wrote:
##Vote: Skynx
I've yet to see one productive post from this guy, and it's hard to remember that he's even in the game. I'm here, still reading all the shitty posts unfortunately and that takes time. Also, congratz for exposing yourself for going after a low-hanging fruit. Seriously? Who calls themselves low hanging fruit? That's such a crap defense. I'd have expected reasons for his lack of activity and dismissive posts, but he's coming across as "expect this all the time". Stand by the facts. I was just an emo at this point to most people including you. Just before i posted some actual reads. I was the definition of low hanging fruit. Thats not a defence, thats an accusation for you going for someone whos just raging about the game rather than post your thoughts on actual playing people some of which you were definitely scumreading at this point. Bullshit. You were active lurking. You got called out on active lurking. You decided you better do something to avoid scrutiny. On November 04 2016 06:02 Foreman wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2016 05:41 Calix wrote:
Foreman, can you give your thoughts on Skynx' wall-posts?
As for ExO, I missed #600. I'm not sure I agree. He says "I think ExO is scum but if he isn't then he's only a VT and is useless so he can die"
He thinks you're scum, ergo you're lying about being VT. All he does is rule out the possibility of you being TPR. I don't see inconsistency here. His wall posts don't line up with the mindset of somebody that considers themselves low hanging fruit. On November 04 2016 06:07 Foreman wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2016 06:03 ExO_ wrote:On November 04 2016 06:02 Foreman wrote:On November 04 2016 05:41 Calix wrote:
Foreman, can you give your thoughts on Skynx' wall-posts?
As for ExO, I missed #600. I'm not sure I agree. He says "I think ExO is scum but if he isn't then he's only a VT and is useless so he can die"
He thinks you're scum, ergo you're lying about being VT. All he does is rule out the possibility of you being TPR. I don't see inconsistency here. His wall posts don't line up with the mindset of somebody that considers themselves low hanging fruit. What is this supposed to accomplish? He's not allowed to start posting things b/c he at one point in the game considered himself low hanging fruit? No. I'm saying he was obviously lying when he called himself low-hanging fruit, and that he made that remark instead of simply explaining why he was busy or what have you makes him scum.
This makes me think a Foreman/Skynx team is much less likely actually.
I guess there is a bit more motivation for scum to buss and make distancing plays in this setup, but these look too genuine to me to think it's Scum on Scum.
Ok now I'm going to go eat.
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On November 06 2016 09:19 NeverUnlucky wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2016 09:15 Tictock wrote:On November 06 2016 09:10 Calix wrote:Alright, so here's an idea that I just thought of. I was rereading my case on Foreman and noticed my comment about "I think ExO/ TT is TvT and Foreman is just sitting on the sidelines" Well I am back to thinking that it was a TvT, so it looks like I was spot-on with my comment about Foreman ignoring that shit-show. Want to know what he WAS doing? Arguing with Skynx. I don't know if that's relevant or not in terms of either of them being scum or whatever so I decided to quote those Skynx/ Foreman posts for reference. + Show Spoiler +On November 04 2016 00:04 Foreman wrote:
##Vote: Skynx
I've yet to see one productive post from this guy, and it's hard to remember that he's even in the game. On November 04 2016 01:18 Foreman wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2016 00:14 Skynx wrote:On November 04 2016 00:04 Foreman wrote:
##Vote: Skynx
I've yet to see one productive post from this guy, and it's hard to remember that he's even in the game. I'm here, still reading all the shitty posts unfortunately and that takes time. Also, congratz for exposing yourself for going after a low-hanging fruit. Seriously? Who calls themselves low hanging fruit? That's such a crap defense. I'd have expected reasons for his lack of activity and dismissive posts, but he's coming across as "expect this all the time". On November 04 2016 05:34 Foreman wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2016 04:01 darthfoley wrote:
Why'd you change your vote off of mahrgell to Skynx?
Mahrgell is still sus, I just realized that Skynx had been posting a bunch of nothingness and wanted him to step up his game. Then that icky post where he calls himself low hanging fruit made my vote stickier. On November 04 2016 05:36 Foreman wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2016 04:13 Skynx wrote:On November 04 2016 01:18 Foreman wrote:On November 04 2016 00:14 Skynx wrote:On November 04 2016 00:04 Foreman wrote:
##Vote: Skynx
I've yet to see one productive post from this guy, and it's hard to remember that he's even in the game. I'm here, still reading all the shitty posts unfortunately and that takes time. Also, congratz for exposing yourself for going after a low-hanging fruit. Seriously? Who calls themselves low hanging fruit? That's such a crap defense. I'd have expected reasons for his lack of activity and dismissive posts, but he's coming across as "expect this all the time". Stand by the facts. I was just an emo at this point to most people including you. Just before i posted some actual reads. I was the definition of low hanging fruit. Thats not a defence, thats an accusation for you going for someone whos just raging about the game rather than post your thoughts on actual playing people some of which you were definitely scumreading at this point. Bullshit. You were active lurking. You got called out on active lurking. You decided you better do something to avoid scrutiny. On November 04 2016 06:02 Foreman wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2016 05:41 Calix wrote:
Foreman, can you give your thoughts on Skynx' wall-posts?
As for ExO, I missed #600. I'm not sure I agree. He says "I think ExO is scum but if he isn't then he's only a VT and is useless so he can die"
He thinks you're scum, ergo you're lying about being VT. All he does is rule out the possibility of you being TPR. I don't see inconsistency here. His wall posts don't line up with the mindset of somebody that considers themselves low hanging fruit. On November 04 2016 06:07 Foreman wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2016 06:03 ExO_ wrote:On November 04 2016 06:02 Foreman wrote:On November 04 2016 05:41 Calix wrote:
Foreman, can you give your thoughts on Skynx' wall-posts?
As for ExO, I missed #600. I'm not sure I agree. He says "I think ExO is scum but if he isn't then he's only a VT and is useless so he can die"
He thinks you're scum, ergo you're lying about being VT. All he does is rule out the possibility of you being TPR. I don't see inconsistency here. His wall posts don't line up with the mindset of somebody that considers themselves low hanging fruit. What is this supposed to accomplish? He's not allowed to start posting things b/c he at one point in the game considered himself low hanging fruit? No. I'm saying he was obviously lying when he called himself low-hanging fruit, and that he made that remark instead of simply explaining why he was busy or what have you makes him scum. This makes me think a Foreman/Skynx team is much less likely actually. I guess there is a bit more motivation for scum to buss and make distancing plays in this setup, but these look too genuine to me to think it's Scum on Scum. Ok now I'm going to go eat. So you think the scum team would be Foreman / DF or Skynx / DF from your PoE pool. You think DF is bussing Skynx with his latest posts?If not, either your PoE pool is missing Skynx's partner or Skynx is not mafia (from your POV).
Foreman/Darth is my current thinking yea.
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