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ExO_
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States2316 Posts
November 03 2016 20:55 GMT
#621
Just to make sure you don't misunderstand, I'm implying he claims that lynching me is okay because he thinks I'm either scum or if I'm not I'm just VT.

That's scum logic. He's saying that because he believes it, but because he thinks it'll be easy to get town to vote for me.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
November 03 2016 20:56 GMT
#622
On November 04 2016 05:48 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2016 05:42 Tictock wrote:
On November 04 2016 05:30 Calix wrote:
On November 04 2016 05:27 Tictock wrote:
On November 04 2016 05:19 Calix wrote:
On November 04 2016 05:16 Tictock wrote:
On November 04 2016 05:06 Calix wrote:
I don't think ExO being defensive is scummy although yes, his case and tunnel against me was bad. It can also be coming from the POV of an overzealous townie. I believe that he's tunneled before as town, no?

However I'm having a hard time thinking that given that he just popped in to slap the third vote on your train and didn't even explain himself until I asked -_-


I really do think Exo should be the lynch today.

Seems way too likely that he is scum to me, but hey even if he isn't we can see he isn't adding anything to the game and is only VT so not a bad lynch right?

+ Show Spoiler +
Kinda joking there... kinda...


I might even try and write another case about him later if I feel like it.

Also I might cry a little if I get mislynched D1 two games in a row...


I wouldn't say that Rels added anything new to the game either. He hasn't claimed VT but I think your argument is applicable to him as well.

Meanwhile ExO was the reason that the game kicked off the way that it did with how he reacted.

If you're town and you get mislynched on D1 yet again, that would be hilarious.


Nah, I stand by what I said about Rels. His posts seem like he is just adding what thoughts he has to the game, not posting stuff to try and look good.

Why do you seem to want to TR Exo so bad?


Are you implying that ExO/ Calix is a possible scum team? If not, why ask the question?

That's also an ignorant question to ask to begin with. I initially town-read ExO and have recently expressed doubts about that given his sub-par posting...which were in the posts that you responded to.


I know you started to change your mind, and no I don't really think you two are on a team.

Neither of those points matter, I just wanted to know what had you thinking Exo was town before.

I actually do read and usually double check stuff before I ask questions you know.


Because I think his defensiveness/ role claim/ tunneling are anti-town behaviours. I don't see a compelling scum narrative for enacting such behaviours.

The only one which I can see for ExO is: scum!ExO sees Calix's question -> scum!ExO thinks that he can use the question to spin a scum narrative on Calix -> scum!ExO goes hard on Calix in hopes of starting a bandwagon -> scum!ExO goes in too deep and gets a shitload of unwanted attention on him -> scum!ExO retires from the thread until attention goes away before he retracts his Calix scum-read.

I feel like the townie explanation is a bit simpler though.


I'm seeing it more like he rolled scum after just getting out of a game as scum so drops his gif plan and instead claims VT. You start questioning him him about it and he can't think of a good explanation. So instead he fakes some OMGUS and makes up some BS about you trying to get him to post gifs. Later he backs off this push claiming it was for reactions (but never followed through with that) and then decides to sheep skynx's case.

I'm really not seeing the town narrative, hence why I think he is scum.
I can take that responsibility.
ExO_
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States2316 Posts
November 03 2016 20:58 GMT
#623
On November 04 2016 05:55 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2016 05:53 ExO_ wrote:
On November 04 2016 05:49 Calix wrote:
On November 04 2016 05:44 ExO_ wrote:
On November 04 2016 05:41 Calix wrote:
Foreman, can you give your thoughts on Skynx' wall-posts?

As for ExO, I missed #600. I'm not sure I agree. He says "I think ExO is scum but if he isn't then he's only a VT and is useless so he can die"

He thinks you're scum, ergo you're lying about being VT. All he does is rule out the possibility of you being TPR. I don't see inconsistency here.


Or I'm lying about being VT to get scum to not mess with me on day 1. However look at the way he posts. He knows I'm only VT.

You need to learn to read between the lines. Mafia are never going to come into the thread and announce they are mafia


How would scum!TT know that you, the town!ExO, is telling the truth and that you're not a TPR exactly? I don't follow the "he knows I'm only VT" part.


He wouldn't. However, he would had no problem killing me if he's scum (especially if he's scum and suspect I'm a power role). Does this make sense to you or do I need to break it down entirely?


ELI5

I'm running into a problem that is rare for me - I have way too many town-reads. Needless to say, I'm having a hard time here.



Scum TT knows who his scum buddy is, and who is town.

He sees I claim VT.

He knows that by killing me he'll either kill a VT (in which case he can claim "he was being worthless for town and it was good to get him out now, blah blah blah), or he'll kill a town power role and again blame it on my play.

He claims that I'm either scum or VT. This is a call that nobody who is town will make. Because if a town player believes my VT claim then I cannot be scum. However if a town player doubts my VT claim then I might be power role and they might not wanna lynch me. The only people who would want to lynch me right now for the logic TT is presenting, are scum.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
November 03 2016 21:01 GMT
#624
On November 04 2016 05:55 ExO_ wrote:
Just to make sure you don't misunderstand, I'm implying he claims that lynching me is okay because he thinks I'm either scum or if I'm not I'm just VT.

That's scum logic. He's saying that because he believes it, but because he thinks it'll be easy to get town to vote for me.


I understand now. You think that he thinks you're a good target for a mislynch in this scenario because he thinks that there's no risk of you claiming TPR and thus the lynch won't get diverted.

I can see where you're coming from. What did you make of his response to it?

On November 04 2016 05:56 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2016 05:48 Calix wrote:
On November 04 2016 05:42 Tictock wrote:
On November 04 2016 05:30 Calix wrote:
On November 04 2016 05:27 Tictock wrote:
On November 04 2016 05:19 Calix wrote:
On November 04 2016 05:16 Tictock wrote:
On November 04 2016 05:06 Calix wrote:
I don't think ExO being defensive is scummy although yes, his case and tunnel against me was bad. It can also be coming from the POV of an overzealous townie. I believe that he's tunneled before as town, no?

However I'm having a hard time thinking that given that he just popped in to slap the third vote on your train and didn't even explain himself until I asked -_-


I really do think Exo should be the lynch today.

Seems way too likely that he is scum to me, but hey even if he isn't we can see he isn't adding anything to the game and is only VT so not a bad lynch right?

+ Show Spoiler +
Kinda joking there... kinda...


I might even try and write another case about him later if I feel like it.

Also I might cry a little if I get mislynched D1 two games in a row...


I wouldn't say that Rels added anything new to the game either. He hasn't claimed VT but I think your argument is applicable to him as well.

Meanwhile ExO was the reason that the game kicked off the way that it did with how he reacted.

If you're town and you get mislynched on D1 yet again, that would be hilarious.


Nah, I stand by what I said about Rels. His posts seem like he is just adding what thoughts he has to the game, not posting stuff to try and look good.

Why do you seem to want to TR Exo so bad?


Are you implying that ExO/ Calix is a possible scum team? If not, why ask the question?

That's also an ignorant question to ask to begin with. I initially town-read ExO and have recently expressed doubts about that given his sub-par posting...which were in the posts that you responded to.


I know you started to change your mind, and no I don't really think you two are on a team.

Neither of those points matter, I just wanted to know what had you thinking Exo was town before.

I actually do read and usually double check stuff before I ask questions you know.


Because I think his defensiveness/ role claim/ tunneling are anti-town behaviours. I don't see a compelling scum narrative for enacting such behaviours.

The only one which I can see for ExO is: scum!ExO sees Calix's question -> scum!ExO thinks that he can use the question to spin a scum narrative on Calix -> scum!ExO goes hard on Calix in hopes of starting a bandwagon -> scum!ExO goes in too deep and gets a shitload of unwanted attention on him -> scum!ExO retires from the thread until attention goes away before he retracts his Calix scum-read.

I feel like the townie explanation is a bit simpler though.


I'm seeing it more like he rolled scum after just getting out of a game as scum so drops his gif plan and instead claims VT. You start questioning him him about it and he can't think of a good explanation. So instead he fakes some OMGUS and makes up some BS about you trying to get him to post gifs. Later he backs off this push claiming it was for reactions (but never followed through with that) and then decides to sheep skynx's case.

I'm really not seeing the town narrative, hence why I think he is scum.


But how hard is it to just say something like "oh I was joking" or "I wanted to play the game properly" or something? Maybe I'm just assuming that ExO is as amazingly intelligent as I am, but that doesn't seem like a stretch for scum.

His later behaviour is more concerning to me. I don't really like it and the point which I found the most interesting from him is something that you claim was a joke. (I think)
ExO_
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States2316 Posts
November 03 2016 21:02 GMT
#625
On November 04 2016 05:55 ExO_ wrote:
Just to make sure you don't misunderstand, I'm implying he claims that lynching me is okay because he thinks I'm either scum or if I'm not I'm just VT.

That's scum logic. He's saying that because he believes it, but because he thinks it'll be easy to get town to vote for me.


*ebwop not beacuse he believes it
Foreman
Profile Joined October 2016
United States88 Posts
November 03 2016 21:02 GMT
#626
On November 04 2016 05:41 Calix wrote:
Foreman, can you give your thoughts on Skynx' wall-posts?

As for ExO, I missed #600. I'm not sure I agree. He says "I think ExO is scum but if he isn't then he's only a VT and is useless so he can die"

He thinks you're scum, ergo you're lying about being VT. All he does is rule out the possibility of you being TPR. I don't see inconsistency here.


His wall posts don't line up with the mindset of somebody that considers themselves low hanging fruit.
Lies are the ultimate weapon. They can be used to bludgeon or cut with the precision of a scalpel.
ExO_
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States2316 Posts
November 03 2016 21:02 GMT
#627
On November 04 2016 06:01 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2016 05:55 ExO_ wrote:
Just to make sure you don't misunderstand, I'm implying he claims that lynching me is okay because he thinks I'm either scum or if I'm not I'm just VT.

That's scum logic. He's saying that because he believes it, but because he thinks it'll be easy to get town to vote for me.


I understand now. You think that he thinks you're a good target for a mislynch in this scenario because he thinks that there's no risk of you claiming TPR and thus the lynch won't get diverted.

I can see where you're coming from. What did you make of his response to it?

Show nested quote +
On November 04 2016 05:56 Tictock wrote:
On November 04 2016 05:48 Calix wrote:
On November 04 2016 05:42 Tictock wrote:
On November 04 2016 05:30 Calix wrote:
On November 04 2016 05:27 Tictock wrote:
On November 04 2016 05:19 Calix wrote:
On November 04 2016 05:16 Tictock wrote:
On November 04 2016 05:06 Calix wrote:
I don't think ExO being defensive is scummy although yes, his case and tunnel against me was bad. It can also be coming from the POV of an overzealous townie. I believe that he's tunneled before as town, no?

However I'm having a hard time thinking that given that he just popped in to slap the third vote on your train and didn't even explain himself until I asked -_-


I really do think Exo should be the lynch today.

Seems way too likely that he is scum to me, but hey even if he isn't we can see he isn't adding anything to the game and is only VT so not a bad lynch right?

+ Show Spoiler +
Kinda joking there... kinda...


I might even try and write another case about him later if I feel like it.

Also I might cry a little if I get mislynched D1 two games in a row...


I wouldn't say that Rels added anything new to the game either. He hasn't claimed VT but I think your argument is applicable to him as well.

Meanwhile ExO was the reason that the game kicked off the way that it did with how he reacted.

If you're town and you get mislynched on D1 yet again, that would be hilarious.


Nah, I stand by what I said about Rels. His posts seem like he is just adding what thoughts he has to the game, not posting stuff to try and look good.

Why do you seem to want to TR Exo so bad?


Are you implying that ExO/ Calix is a possible scum team? If not, why ask the question?

That's also an ignorant question to ask to begin with. I initially town-read ExO and have recently expressed doubts about that given his sub-par posting...which were in the posts that you responded to.


I know you started to change your mind, and no I don't really think you two are on a team.

Neither of those points matter, I just wanted to know what had you thinking Exo was town before.

I actually do read and usually double check stuff before I ask questions you know.


Because I think his defensiveness/ role claim/ tunneling are anti-town behaviours. I don't see a compelling scum narrative for enacting such behaviours.

The only one which I can see for ExO is: scum!ExO sees Calix's question -> scum!ExO thinks that he can use the question to spin a scum narrative on Calix -> scum!ExO goes hard on Calix in hopes of starting a bandwagon -> scum!ExO goes in too deep and gets a shitload of unwanted attention on him -> scum!ExO retires from the thread until attention goes away before he retracts his Calix scum-read.

I feel like the townie explanation is a bit simpler though.


I'm seeing it more like he rolled scum after just getting out of a game as scum so drops his gif plan and instead claims VT. You start questioning him him about it and he can't think of a good explanation. So instead he fakes some OMGUS and makes up some BS about you trying to get him to post gifs. Later he backs off this push claiming it was for reactions (but never followed through with that) and then decides to sheep skynx's case.

I'm really not seeing the town narrative, hence why I think he is scum.


But how hard is it to just say something like "oh I was joking" or "I wanted to play the game properly" or something? Maybe I'm just assuming that ExO is as amazingly intelligent as I am, but that doesn't seem like a stretch for scum.

His later behaviour is more concerning to me. I don't really like it and the point which I found the most interesting from him is something that you claim was a joke. (I think)


what am I claiming was a joke?
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
November 03 2016 21:03 GMT
#628
On November 04 2016 05:55 ExO_ wrote:
Just to make sure you don't misunderstand, I'm implying he claims that lynching me is okay because he thinks I'm either scum or if I'm not I'm just VT.

That's scum logic. He's saying that because he believes it, but because he thinks it'll be easy to get town to vote for me.


It's actually surprisingly hard to get people to vote obv scum.

I'm not even just talking about this game either.

Also you can ague this point to death if you want. My read on you is pretty independent of your claim, though at this rate your filter is just gunna be you talking about it.
I can take that responsibility.
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
November 03 2016 21:03 GMT
#629
On November 04 2016 05:04 Tictock wrote:
Actually didn't someone mention that Skynx said he tries to open scummy to see who goes after him?

If that's true then I have to throw out my line of thought about his early game. Clearly scum!Skynx would try to replicate that type of play from his towngames.

I was 100% serious about cutting the spam. Nothing to do with my alignment.

In meantime wht is Foreman scum?
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
ExO_
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States2316 Posts
November 03 2016 21:03 GMT
#630
On November 04 2016 06:02 Foreman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2016 05:41 Calix wrote:
Foreman, can you give your thoughts on Skynx' wall-posts?

As for ExO, I missed #600. I'm not sure I agree. He says "I think ExO is scum but if he isn't then he's only a VT and is useless so he can die"

He thinks you're scum, ergo you're lying about being VT. All he does is rule out the possibility of you being TPR. I don't see inconsistency here.


His wall posts don't line up with the mindset of somebody that considers themselves low hanging fruit.


What is this supposed to accomplish? He's not allowed to start posting things b/c he at one point in the game considered himself low hanging fruit?
Foreman
Profile Joined October 2016
United States88 Posts
November 03 2016 21:05 GMT
#631
On November 04 2016 05:44 ExO_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2016 05:41 Calix wrote:
Foreman, can you give your thoughts on Skynx' wall-posts?

As for ExO, I missed #600. I'm not sure I agree. He says "I think ExO is scum but if he isn't then he's only a VT and is useless so he can die"

He thinks you're scum, ergo you're lying about being VT. All he does is rule out the possibility of you being TPR. I don't see inconsistency here.


Or I'm lying about being VT to get scum to not mess with me on day 1. However look at the way he posts. He knows I'm only VT.

You need to learn to read between the lines. Mafia are never going to come into the thread and announce they are mafia


How would he, as scum, know you are VT?

A blue would have a better idea whether you were bullshitting than scum, would they not?
Lies are the ultimate weapon. They can be used to bludgeon or cut with the precision of a scalpel.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
November 03 2016 21:05 GMT
#632
On November 04 2016 06:02 Foreman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2016 05:41 Calix wrote:
Foreman, can you give your thoughts on Skynx' wall-posts?

As for ExO, I missed #600. I'm not sure I agree. He says "I think ExO is scum but if he isn't then he's only a VT and is useless so he can die"

He thinks you're scum, ergo you're lying about being VT. All he does is rule out the possibility of you being TPR. I don't see inconsistency here.


His wall posts don't line up with the mindset of somebody that considers themselves low hanging fruit.


Huh?

Saying "I'm low-hanging fruit" doesn't exclude someone from making wall-posts later on. Not sure I get you.

On November 04 2016 06:02 ExO_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2016 06:01 Calix wrote:
On November 04 2016 05:55 ExO_ wrote:
Just to make sure you don't misunderstand, I'm implying he claims that lynching me is okay because he thinks I'm either scum or if I'm not I'm just VT.

That's scum logic. He's saying that because he believes it, but because he thinks it'll be easy to get town to vote for me.


I understand now. You think that he thinks you're a good target for a mislynch in this scenario because he thinks that there's no risk of you claiming TPR and thus the lynch won't get diverted.

I can see where you're coming from. What did you make of his response to it?

On November 04 2016 05:56 Tictock wrote:
On November 04 2016 05:48 Calix wrote:
On November 04 2016 05:42 Tictock wrote:
On November 04 2016 05:30 Calix wrote:
On November 04 2016 05:27 Tictock wrote:
On November 04 2016 05:19 Calix wrote:
On November 04 2016 05:16 Tictock wrote:
On November 04 2016 05:06 Calix wrote:
I don't think ExO being defensive is scummy although yes, his case and tunnel against me was bad. It can also be coming from the POV of an overzealous townie. I believe that he's tunneled before as town, no?

However I'm having a hard time thinking that given that he just popped in to slap the third vote on your train and didn't even explain himself until I asked -_-


I really do think Exo should be the lynch today.

Seems way too likely that he is scum to me, but hey even if he isn't we can see he isn't adding anything to the game and is only VT so not a bad lynch right?

+ Show Spoiler +
Kinda joking there... kinda...


I might even try and write another case about him later if I feel like it.

Also I might cry a little if I get mislynched D1 two games in a row...


I wouldn't say that Rels added anything new to the game either. He hasn't claimed VT but I think your argument is applicable to him as well.

Meanwhile ExO was the reason that the game kicked off the way that it did with how he reacted.

If you're town and you get mislynched on D1 yet again, that would be hilarious.


Nah, I stand by what I said about Rels. His posts seem like he is just adding what thoughts he has to the game, not posting stuff to try and look good.

Why do you seem to want to TR Exo so bad?


Are you implying that ExO/ Calix is a possible scum team? If not, why ask the question?

That's also an ignorant question to ask to begin with. I initially town-read ExO and have recently expressed doubts about that given his sub-par posting...which were in the posts that you responded to.


I know you started to change your mind, and no I don't really think you two are on a team.

Neither of those points matter, I just wanted to know what had you thinking Exo was town before.

I actually do read and usually double check stuff before I ask questions you know.


Because I think his defensiveness/ role claim/ tunneling are anti-town behaviours. I don't see a compelling scum narrative for enacting such behaviours.

The only one which I can see for ExO is: scum!ExO sees Calix's question -> scum!ExO thinks that he can use the question to spin a scum narrative on Calix -> scum!ExO goes hard on Calix in hopes of starting a bandwagon -> scum!ExO goes in too deep and gets a shitload of unwanted attention on him -> scum!ExO retires from the thread until attention goes away before he retracts his Calix scum-read.

I feel like the townie explanation is a bit simpler though.


I'm seeing it more like he rolled scum after just getting out of a game as scum so drops his gif plan and instead claims VT. You start questioning him him about it and he can't think of a good explanation. So instead he fakes some OMGUS and makes up some BS about you trying to get him to post gifs. Later he backs off this push claiming it was for reactions (but never followed through with that) and then decides to sheep skynx's case.

I'm really not seeing the town narrative, hence why I think he is scum.


But how hard is it to just say something like "oh I was joking" or "I wanted to play the game properly" or something? Maybe I'm just assuming that ExO is as amazingly intelligent as I am, but that doesn't seem like a stretch for scum.

His later behaviour is more concerning to me. I don't really like it and the point which I found the most interesting from him is something that you claim was a joke. (I think)


what am I claiming was a joke?


No, I said that TT claimed that he was messing around, I'm pretty sure. Last page?
ExO_
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States2316 Posts
November 03 2016 21:06 GMT
#633
On November 04 2016 06:03 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2016 05:55 ExO_ wrote:
Just to make sure you don't misunderstand, I'm implying he claims that lynching me is okay because he thinks I'm either scum or if I'm not I'm just VT.

That's scum logic. He's saying that because he believes it, but because he thinks it'll be easy to get town to vote for me.


It's actually surprisingly hard to get people to vote obv scum.

I'm not even just talking about this game either.

Also you can ague this point to death if you want. My read on you is pretty independent of your claim, though at this rate your filter is just gunna be you talking about it.


Yes but I'm clearly not obvious scum here. And nothing you've posted so far implies I'm obvious scum. So are you saying I'm obvious scum? No. You're trying to force an early mislynch onto me, then revert to an excuse afterwards.
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
November 03 2016 21:06 GMT
#634
On November 04 2016 05:09 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2016 05:04 Tictock wrote:
Actually didn't someone mention that Skynx said he tries to open scummy to see who goes after him?

If that's true then I have to throw out my line of thought about his early game. Clearly scum!Skynx would try to replicate that type of play from his towngames.


Eh?

Your first line is correct. Skynx claims that he acts scummy to see who goes for the low-hanging fruit as a town tactic.

Your conclusion is making me scratch my head. I don't see how learning about Skynx' play-style -> thinking he'd replicate it as scum -> entrance posts are null.

Thats not what i meant with that...
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ExO_
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States2316 Posts
November 03 2016 21:06 GMT
#635
On November 04 2016 06:05 Foreman wrote:
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On November 04 2016 05:44 ExO_ wrote:
On November 04 2016 05:41 Calix wrote:
Foreman, can you give your thoughts on Skynx' wall-posts?

As for ExO, I missed #600. I'm not sure I agree. He says "I think ExO is scum but if he isn't then he's only a VT and is useless so he can die"

He thinks you're scum, ergo you're lying about being VT. All he does is rule out the possibility of you being TPR. I don't see inconsistency here.


Or I'm lying about being VT to get scum to not mess with me on day 1. However look at the way he posts. He knows I'm only VT.

You need to learn to read between the lines. Mafia are never going to come into the thread and announce they are mafia


How would he, as scum, know you are VT?

A blue would have a better idea whether you were bullshitting than scum, would they not?


read the thread please
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
November 03 2016 21:07 GMT
#636
On November 04 2016 06:06 Skynx wrote:
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On November 04 2016 05:09 Calix wrote:
On November 04 2016 05:04 Tictock wrote:
Actually didn't someone mention that Skynx said he tries to open scummy to see who goes after him?

If that's true then I have to throw out my line of thought about his early game. Clearly scum!Skynx would try to replicate that type of play from his towngames.


Eh?

Your first line is correct. Skynx claims that he acts scummy to see who goes for the low-hanging fruit as a town tactic.

Your conclusion is making me scratch my head. I don't see how learning about Skynx' play-style -> thinking he'd replicate it as scum -> entrance posts are null.

Thats not what i meant with that...


I'm not referring to your response to Foreman with that post. I'm referring to our TPR chat in HM 3. Just to clarify.

Unless I totally misinterpreted your posting there.
Foreman
Profile Joined October 2016
United States88 Posts
November 03 2016 21:07 GMT
#637
On November 04 2016 06:03 ExO_ wrote:
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On November 04 2016 06:02 Foreman wrote:
On November 04 2016 05:41 Calix wrote:
Foreman, can you give your thoughts on Skynx' wall-posts?

As for ExO, I missed #600. I'm not sure I agree. He says "I think ExO is scum but if he isn't then he's only a VT and is useless so he can die"

He thinks you're scum, ergo you're lying about being VT. All he does is rule out the possibility of you being TPR. I don't see inconsistency here.


His wall posts don't line up with the mindset of somebody that considers themselves low hanging fruit.


What is this supposed to accomplish? He's not allowed to start posting things b/c he at one point in the game considered himself low hanging fruit?


No. I'm saying he was obviously lying when he called himself low-hanging fruit, and that he made that remark instead of simply explaining why he was busy or what have you makes him scum.
Lies are the ultimate weapon. They can be used to bludgeon or cut with the precision of a scalpel.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 03 2016 21:08 GMT
#638
On November 04 2016 01:22 darthfoley wrote:
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On November 03 2016 21:37 Rels wrote:
On November 03 2016 21:30 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On November 03 2016 21:24 Rels wrote:
On November 03 2016 03:29 ExO_ wrote:
Also to clarify why I'm claiming my VT role right now:

I'm getting it out the open right now. I think in a game this size trying to fake claim to get scum to target me would be a waste of time. So I'm letting everyone know now I don't have any abilities I cannot do anything at night and can only vote. You can choose to either believe me or not, but I'm telling the truth

This makes ExO very likely town

Explain.

1. It is obviously anti town to seriously claim VT at the start of the game. Scum usually don't do obvious scummy things, on the contrary they try to be townie. It's WIFOM, but in mafia the simplest explanation is often the right one.
2. It removes ExO's ability to fakeclaim if he's scum, which is a great tool as scum, and even more in semi open setup like the one we're playing.


I hadn't thought of #2; however, couldn't he later claim blue and just say, "of course i'd claim VT early! Who wouldn't?! Didn't want mafia to think I was blue!"


It would be way less believable. And actually it would probably get him lynched over whoever he's fakeclaiming against
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
November 03 2016 21:09 GMT
#639
On November 04 2016 06:01 Calix wrote:
But how hard is it to just say something like "oh I was joking" or "I wanted to play the game properly" or something? Maybe I'm just assuming that ExO is as amazingly intelligent as I am, but that doesn't seem like a stretch for scum.

His later behaviour is more concerning to me. I don't really like it and the point which I found the most interesting from him is something that you claim was a joke. (I think)


Thats actually kinda my point, town!Exo could have said the same things, or started posting gifs to joke around.

What did we see? Him getting butthurt that you called him out for not posting Gifs and attacking you for it.
I can take that responsibility.
ExO_
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States2316 Posts
November 03 2016 21:09 GMT
#640
On November 04 2016 06:07 Foreman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2016 06:03 ExO_ wrote:
On November 04 2016 06:02 Foreman wrote:
On November 04 2016 05:41 Calix wrote:
Foreman, can you give your thoughts on Skynx' wall-posts?

As for ExO, I missed #600. I'm not sure I agree. He says "I think ExO is scum but if he isn't then he's only a VT and is useless so he can die"

He thinks you're scum, ergo you're lying about being VT. All he does is rule out the possibility of you being TPR. I don't see inconsistency here.


His wall posts don't line up with the mindset of somebody that considers themselves low hanging fruit.


What is this supposed to accomplish? He's not allowed to start posting things b/c he at one point in the game considered himself low hanging fruit?


No. I'm saying he was obviously lying when he called himself low-hanging fruit, and that he made that remark instead of simply explaining why he was busy or what have you makes him scum.


He cannot be lying about calling himself low-hanging fruit. Thats an opinion thing and not alignment indicative in any way. Getting stuck up on this is dumb as hell.

Also read the thread. You're skipping posts like crazy
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